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Ubuntu Won't Moan To EU About Microsoft

Barence writes "The company behind the Ubuntu Linux distro says it has no plans to follow Opera's lead and file a complaint against Microsoft to the EU. Ubuntu 10.10 is the most 'consumer-friendly' version of the Linux distro to date, but it faces an uphill battle against Microsoft's marketing machine. Even high-profile supporter Dell has dropped Ubuntu machines from its website in recent months, while continuing to remind visitors that 'Dell recommends Windows 7' at the top of every PC page. 'I don't think we've ever considered [an EU complaint],' said Steve George, vice president of business development at Canonical. 'The improvements we're making to Ubunutu ... are a better route for us to reach out to users and get a bigger user base.'"

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  1. If it makes Ubuntu feel any better.... by Jailbrekr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dell may have dropped Ubuntu, but we dropped Dell. Good god are their business offerings ever horrible. We went out of our way to retire any and all Dell hardware with *extreme* prejudice.

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    1. Re:If it makes Ubuntu feel any better.... by MBGMorden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The only Dell hardware I've had that gave me serious trouble was a robotic tape library. Aside from that, it's mostly been ok.

      Still, I don't see this as a huge problem. Even when Ubuntu systems were available from them, you still had to track them down. Anyone who wants it can still install it for free. With Windows it's a great boon to get it installed from the manufacturer because Dell gets Windows for a very small fraction of the cost as an end user (IIRC, it's around $25 per copy for a manufacturer that size). As such, if you want Windows on your new machine, you're saving a ton of money by getting it that way. Ubuntu on the other hand, being free, loses that advantage. I can install it after the fact for the same price.

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    2. Re:If it makes Ubuntu feel any better.... by exomondo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      To be honest, I don't know how it all works at the business level, all I know is that I'm ordering my next laptop without windows and I'm going to spend up to 12 hours on the phone to get the discount for it.

      Wow...your time is really that low value?

  2. Dell should just pack it in... by strangeattraction · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It is time for Dell to admit it can't compete against the Chinese. MS tells them to stop shipping Ubuntu and they do. They have no will of their own.

  3. Kudos by MBGMorden · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think they're probably going about it the right way. It's an uphill battle, and we've still got a ways to go, but Linux in general and Ubuntu specifically has been making great strides here.

    I particularly like Ubuntu's focus on polish. They don't just crank out apps. They work on themes, fonts, artwork, etc. Things that really make the desktop shine to user who's just taking a test drive. There was a time when a Linux desktop without a TON of work poured into it (and sometimes even after it) was just ugly. Sure it didn't crash, and it was secure, but it looked like it was drawn by programmers - because it WAS back then. Getting UI and artwork people on board helps a lot, and Ubuntu is doing the right thing in that regard.

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    1. Re:Kudos by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, I'm sure the reason for lack of blu-ray and Netflix support is too much time toying with The GIMP. There's nothing about either blu-ray or Netflix that's restricted. The only thing stopping Ubuntu from supporting these is all the time spent trying to decide on a brown or blue color pallet for the next release desktop default.

    2. Re:Kudos by h4rr4r · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Netflix is only because the netflix wants it that way.

      Blu-ray is a legal nightmare. Expect proper support when it is totally broken.

  4. Positive Rather than Negative by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 4, Insightful

    'The improvements we're making to Ubunutu ... are a better route for us to reach out to users and get a bigger user base.'

    High five for being one organization in this world that recognizes the benefits of positive advertisement rather than negative attack campaigns. It's always better to stay positive. People will like you more.

    1. Re:Positive Rather than Negative by catbutt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Negative attack campaigns are one thing....but filing an antitrust complaint is another. We need healthy competition, and I don't think we have it. I think Opera did the right thing, and partially as a result of that, we have a lot healthier competition in browsers these days.

  5. Good For Ubuntu and Canonical by TheNinjaroach · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't have much respect for those who unnecessarily bring government and lawyers into every situation.

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  6. Another good point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The amount spent on a single lawyer would probably pay for 2-3 programmers for the same period of time. Assuming you'd have 5 lawyers, 5 paralegals (1-2 programmers each), their support personnel (secretaries, whatever), and their expenses, you could probably hire 15-20 programmers and their support personnel over the same period of time that the lawyers would spend researching the complaint and drafting corrective proposals (probably a few months, maybe a year depending on any followup). The positive effect of 15-20 well paid and supported programmers on Ubuntu would probably have the same effect on adoption rates through word of mouth as bringing the complaint and giving people the option of choosing the Ubuntu that didn't have their improvements.

    Of course, I could be overstating what 15-20 programmers could do. I can promise you, though, I'm not overstating how much attorneys cost...

  7. Re:Word of Mouth by Technician · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Slow like in the original Napster, Bittorrent, Pirate Bay? Unless made illegal, the converts don't go back.

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