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Valve Announces Dota 2

RulerOf writes "Just over a year after hiring IceFrog, the lead developer of the wildly popular DotA Allstars mod for Warcraft III, and the speculation surrounding Valve's recent trademark filing for the 'DotA' name, Valve has officially announced Dota 2. Gameplay of Dota 2 is being ported 'exactly' from the current DotA Allstars and includes every hero, but vast improvements are being made to the game including VoIP, a coaching system, in-game rewards, and AI that takes over for disconnected players. Lastly, it all runs on top of the Source engine. (GameInformer's website appears to be struggling right now though, as they had an exclusive on this story.)"

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  1. Icefrog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    http://icefrogtruth.blogspot.com/2010/10/truth.html

    Seems valve may have known a little more than they let on when they hired Mr frog.

    1. Re:Icefrog by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 4, Informative

      Valve's official statement on that is that it is fake.

    2. Re:Icefrog by Rysc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      True or not, I don't care. Icefrog could be an asshole for all I care as long as the result is that DoTA 2 copies DoTA and does not try to change things. DoTA works, changing it damages it (see LoL and to a lesser extent HoN). Sometimes we all dislike icefrog but if he's developing and defending DoTA then no other wrongs he does matter, IMO.

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  2. Acronym courtesy missing... by cbope · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What the hell is a DotA?

    Please, if you are going to use an acronym in a news post, especially one that may be a mod many are not familiar with, follow common courtesy and spell it out the first time it is used.

    I had to click on the link and visit a page with information about a mod for a game I haven't played in YEARS.

    1. Re:Acronym courtesy missing... by TyIzaeL · · Score: 4, Informative

      What the hell is a DotA?

      It stands for Defense of the Ancients. Basically the game consists of two teams of player-controlled heroes defending their own team's base while attacking the other's.

    2. Re:Acronym courtesy missing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_the_Ancients [wikipedia.org] is the 1st thing that comes up when you google DotA. See, that's what adults do, when they don't know what something is they look it up, not expect to be spoon fed.

      Right, it has nothing to do with the fact that the "editors" on /. couldn't e bothered with linking or explaining what "DotA" refers too. See, that's what editors (are supposed to) do.

    3. Re:Acronym courtesy missing... by Ailure · · Score: 3, Informative

      As much using acronyms in situations like this annoys me, the acronym is more known than the full name.

      Or you insist calling it "Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation"? ;)

    4. Re:Acronym courtesy missing... by mythandros · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Let's ignore the fact that spelling out acronyms upon first use is one of the most basic elements of good article writing. If I Google for DotA, I don't know that the first hit resolves to the intended acronym unless I already know what DotA stands for in which case I wouldn't have needed to Google it in the first place.

  3. better title by jakobX · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wouldn't a better title be: Valve doesn't announce episode three after years of delays.

    1. Re:better title by Narishma · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How can it be delayed when they've never announced a release date?

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  4. What players want? I think not. by ifrag · · Score: 5, Insightful

    DotA is dying, and it's dying because there are already next generation replacements for it. A few years ago, the entire custom game list on Warcraft III would have been almost full of DotA and maybe a couple other games hosted here and there. These days it can take several minutes just to get a full game setup.

    For those who actually enjoyed the way DotA played and the associated content there is already a complete replacement with Heroes of Newerth. Which pretty much is what Valve is talking about making here. And for those who were actually looking for something different than a straight DotA clone, League of Legends actually makes an effort to change the game up in meaningful ways. Most significantly by throwing out the Warcraft III stat system.

    So despite Valve's track record, I'm not optimistic in their approach on this. I really doubt people want DotA yet again with a few enhancements. I think a 3rd generation sequel would have a lot more chance than a 1st generation remake. Unless they make more than trivial improvements in infrastructure this is not going to draw the players who are already in this market. Maybe they stand a chance for getting some new players, those not already involved in the MOBA (Multiplayer Online Battle Arena) games. It would have been nice to see Valve actually do some research before trying to jump blindly into this.

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  5. I'll tell you what DotA is... by RulerOf · · Score: 4, Informative

    What the hell is a DotA?

    Please, if you are going to use an acronym in a news post, especially one that may be a mod many are not familiar with, follow common courtesy and spell it out the first time it is used.

    While you raise a good question (plenty of people don't know what DotA is, of course!), concerns like this are the reason that I included a link to the Wikipedia article upon the first mention of DotA in the submission, as well as some context around said link for those too lazy to click through.

    DotA Allstars (DotA is short for Defense of the Ancients) is the world's most popular, most well balanced, and most refined incarnation of a very popular genre of RTS custom maps that began with a Starcraft map called Aeon of Strife that can collectively be referred to as the "AoS genre." However, though AoS was quite popular in its day (and I remember seeing the games on Battle.net, but never played them!), it was plagued with balance issues, particularly in the first Warcraft III incarnations by the same name; those maps were basically won by padding your hero's agility stat and adding a lifestealing attack.... they were kinda stupid, but very fun nonetheless.

    Where AoS variants such as DotA differ from traditional RTS games is that instead of building and commanding a base and an army and its leaders (or heroes) and assaulting the opposite team to destroy its base, players instead control only the hero characters and the rest of the army that fights alongside you is completely controlled by the computer. You and your teammates then fight in this battle, killing enemy units and teaming up to gank (i.e. surprise and kill by abusing superior numbers, powerups, skills, whatever) enemy heroes for gold and experience, buying items and equipment to enhance your hero's stats, buff your team, or counter your opponents. The back and forth struggle is extremely teamwork oriented and incredibly fun, and playing the game with people who are all of a high skill level is quite possibly one of the most rewarding experiences I've ever had in gaming, even when I've lost!

    I could go on and on about the awesomeness that the game is, but if you like games that require teamwork and skill (and don't involve any of the pervasive bullshit that has saturated FPS games since Counter-Strike became popular... "You aim at the chest and pull down on the mouse when you start shooting and get a HEADSHOT errrytime! CROUCH, CROUCH!") that are constantly improving, then you ought to give it a try. Bringing true DotA out of the Warcraft III engine and into modern times has been a dream of mine for a very long time, and though a game like Heroes of Newerth is a faithful clone, it's still not perfect from a gameplay perspective. It behaves considerably differently and the action is considerably faster, which I don't consider a good thing, though it is a great game itself.

    If you found any of that interesting, I do recommend giving it a try. You'll get wtfpwned for a while, but once you get your first triple kill, you'll never look back.

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