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Top Facebook Apps Violate Privacy Terms

cgriffin21 writes "No stranger to privacy concerns, Facebook is once again in the privacy spotlight, following a Wall Street Journal report that some popular Facebook applications leak personal information to advertisers. 'Many of the popular applications, or 'apps,' on the social-networking site Facebook Inc. have been transmitting identifying information — in effect, providing access to people's names and, in some cases, their friends' names — to dozens of advertising and Internet tracking companies,' according to The Wall Street Journal, which wrote about Facebook Sunday in the latest installment of its recent 'What They Know' series about advertising and the Internet."

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  1. facebook is the end of privacy as we know it... by digitaldc · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...and it is the end of privacy as we DON'T know it!
    Mark Zuckerberg sure has a predisposition to violating people's privacy and trust.
    I would quit facebook but then I would risk losing my 300+ distant, casual acquaintances :(

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    1. Re:facebook is the end of privacy as we know it... by Culture20 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It makes me wonder why Facebook had a privacy "policy" for app writers when they could have easily scrubbed data before letting Zinga et al get their grubby mitts on them. A "Do not walk on grass" sign carries less weight than a groundskeeper, security guard, or a fence.

    2. Re:facebook is the end of privacy as we know it... by DJRumpy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ah, my life for a Mod point. The point of security is to enforce the rules, not to ask for them to be enforced. I've been forced to turn off almost everything across the board on facebook. It's become a joke in it's 'safety' features and 'privacy' (or lack thereof).

      How long before we see the release of Diaspora?

    3. Re:facebook is the end of privacy as we know it... by Goffee71 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Facebook isn't in the privacy business, its in the business business and until told to stop it, in court, via a socking great fine, it will carry on regardless.

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    4. Re:facebook is the end of privacy as we know it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It makes me wonder why Facebook had a privacy "policy" for app writers when they could have easily scrubbed data before letting Zinga et al get their grubby mitts on them. A "Do not walk on grass" sign carries less weight than a groundskeeper, security guard, or a fence.

      Because that wouldn't have made Mark Zuckerberg stinking rich.

    5. Re:facebook is the end of privacy as we know it... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes it would. Facebook exists to sell your information to third parties. Restricting the information that third parties can get at without paying Facebook is directly in line with their goals. Of course, it also requires some moderate amount of competence, which is pretty unlikely for Facebook.

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  2. I'm surprised by IBBoard · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yes, I'm surprised. Not at the fact that "private" data (in this case a UID that identifies a user that can be used to get their profile page and anything that they haven't hidden) has been released. No, I'm surprised at the fact that they are reporting it as an "inadvertent" release from the games and that people are shocked.

    If Facebook let data slip to the games when they didn't mean to then that'd be news. The fact that games (which, lets face it, appear to rely on either a) horrible advertising or b) selling your details, because there's no other way they could make it so profitable) give out extra data to advertisers that Facebook policy says that they weren't meant to seems like just another day at the office for many of those time wasting game developers.

  3. Looks just like referrer passing by sinclair44 · · Score: 3, Informative

    From my interpretation of TFA, it just looks like some apps were accidentally passing a referrer containing the user's Facebook ID.

    "Recently, it has come to our attention that several applications built on Facebook Platform were passing the User ID (UID), an identifier that we use within our APIs, in a manner that violated this policy," Vernal wrote. "In most cases, developers did not intend to pass the information, but did so because of the technical details of how the browsers work."

    "Press reports have exaggerated the implication of sharing at UID [user ID]. Knowledge of a UID does not enable anyone to access private user information without explicit user consent. Nevertheless, we are committed to ensuring that even the inadvertent passing of UIDs is prevented and all applications are in compliance with our policy."

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  4. Re:i'm gay for linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not only does "obvious troll is obvious" work here, but you posted in the wrong fucking thread. Linux thread is the next story down you raging idiot. What is the world coming to when people can't even troll properly.

  5. Top Facebook Apps Violate Privacy Terms by obyom · · Score: 5, Funny

    No stranger to privacy concerns, Facebook is one again in in the privacy spotlight...

    Isn't "privacy spotlight" an oxymoron?

    1. Re:Top Facebook Apps Violate Privacy Terms by Yvan256 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Only if you're not using a Mac. I get 2880 results for "privacy".

  6. Re:i'm gay for linux by Yvan256 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Are you suggesting that we need a new "ADD Troll" moderation?

  7. Facebook needs a default block by grub · · Score: 2, Insightful


    One thing that pisses me off are the endless "Joe Blow has scored 100283 points on Fist the Goatse Guy"-type messages. You have to block that type of shit manually. They should have a default deny for that garbage.

    End of Rant.

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    1. Re:Facebook needs a default block by darkstar949 · · Score: 2, Informative

      You need to do this for each app that spams the wall, but when you put your mouse over the message an X will appear. Clicking will give you a couple options like "Hide [User]", "Mark as Spam", and "Hide Messages from [App]." When you hide the messages from the app, you will hide all messages across everyone on your friend list. Given that certain apps tend to be the most popular and played by more than one person, it shouldn't be too hard to hide the majority of the messages.

    2. Re:Facebook needs a default block by grub · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's what I do but I need to be on a computer to do it. The Facebook app doesn't seem to have that feature. It's a royal PITA.

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  8. Re:Also in the news by acedotcom · · Score: 2, Funny

    but i want people to call me for a good time...but i dont want them to know who i am....i'll just write that my name is Jenny....

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  9. Really? (sarcasm) by smbarbour · · Score: 3, Informative

    You mean Zynga actually is the money hungry whore everyone thought it was?

  10. FBPurity by scrib · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Firefox, greasemonkey add-on, and FBPurity. The "FB" stands for "Fluff Busting" not "facebook" for legal reasons...

    It blocks app messages, groups joined, events attended, everything. You can whitelist some things that you might want to see and create your own list of blocked words if you want. It's the only thing that makes facebook vaguely usable in my book...

    http://www.fbpurity.com/

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    1. Re:FBPurity by grub · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They don't work on the mobile app as they just hide, not block, the crap. As far as Facebook is concerned you're still a member of the group/whatever.

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  11. Re:Also in the news by The+Clockwork+Troll · · Score: 5, Funny

    I recently purchased an ad on facebook for my company's product.

    I should have known something was awry when the following were offered as substitution variables in the ad copy:

    $FIRST_NAME
    $LAST_NAME
    $WHAT_MOMMY_CALLS_THEM
    $GENDER
    $AGE_RANGE
    $INCOME_LEVEL
    $INCOME_LEVEL_REPORTED_ON_EHARMONY
    $SEX_PARTNERS_IN_PAST_6_MONTHS
    $SEX_PARTNERS_IN_PAST_6_MONTHS_REALLY
    $POLITICAL_PARTY
    $POLITICAL_PARTY_THEY_ACTUALLY_VOTE_FOR
    $SPOUSE_BIRTHDAY
    $MISTRESS_BIRTHDAY
    $FACEBOOK_USER_THEY_STALK_MOST
    $CREDIT_CARD_LAST_4_DIGITS
    $CREDIT_CARD_FIRST_12_DIGITS ...

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  12. For the nth time already by TheABomb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not a "privacy leak" if you type the $#!% in yourself!

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    1. Re:For the nth time already by decipher_saint · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What about when acquaintances release personal information about you on Facebook?

      That's the real problem with these apps that violate privacy, if it violates an individuals privacy it violates everyones (to some degree).

      Like it or not there is shared information that defines you, with our without your input.

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    2. Re:For the nth time already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're wrong.

      I type my credit card in when I buy stuff online. I expect that only the appropriate employees at the cc processor have access to that information.

      I type my telephone number in on facebook. I expect that only people on my friends' list can see my phone number, but sure enough, it's accessible by Zynga et. al. because one (or several) of my friends played farmville or whatever during the day or so after facebook auto-reset everyone's privacy settings.

      You may be right that the term 'privacy leak' is a bit of a misnomer, as it generally refers to a large-scale breach of records, but the idea that 'if you type it in yourself' you deserve to have your information spread to any number of obnoxious companies is completely preposterous.

  13. Overhyped BS by Is0m0rph · · Score: 2, Informative

    This a passing of a user ID only. If that user has setup their profile correctly nothing can be gained from that user ID. It's no different than typing a random name in the search and going to the returned user's pages.

    1. Re:Overhyped BS by mysidia · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It has privacy issues similar to tracking cookies. It is like a tracking cookie you cannot delete.

      It's not necessarily that it contains private information in itself, but it can be used to uniquely identify you.

      If someone records what information goes with that UID once, then it's possible to match your UID to that information in the future, either by a past or future gathering from that party, or by purchasing the information to match against the UID from an information broker

  14. Re:FB Privacy...FWIW by siriuskase · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't post anything you wouldn't want all your friends to know. Remember that you have friends you don't know about, the one's who pay FB to be your "secret friends". Isn't it nice to have so many friends?

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  15. I don't think it's a coincidence by mysidia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That the apps with problems are the top ones.

    How do they become top apps?

    They work, are designed well, and are appealing to their audience both graphically and functionally.

    How do apps that best meet these criteria get built? By hiring top-notch programmers, web designers, and marketers.

    What do you need to hire top-notch programmers, designers, and marketers? Lots of financial backing?

    How do you get lots of financial backing and excellent investors? By selling a very good business plan.

    How do you get lots of money to fund development? Advertising and information brokering.

    What do advertisers pay a lot for? Extremely well-targetted ads that take into account specific characteristics of the audience.

    What do information brokers pay a lot for? Private information about your users.

  16. Farmville Stats for Advertisers by geoffrobinson · · Score: 2, Funny

    Imagine going through this crap.

    Chuck in Fargo needs help building his barn.

    Mary in New York needs to borrow some fertilizer.

    Some data miner for Farmville hates his life.

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  17. Re:Facebook's policy writers can go fuck themselve by paeanblack · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Deselecting any of the items on the list blocks access to the application. An application, which, I might add, doesn't need any of that info to operate correctly.

    Given that the sole purpose of those apps is to collect such information, they actually do need that info to operate correctly.

    You didn't think they exist to entertain you, did you? Really?