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Google Now Second-Largest ISP
bednarz writes "Google is now the second-largest carrier of Internet traffic, accounting for 6.4% of all web traffic, according to data released this week by Arbor Networks. But should IT execs care? Yes, says Craig Labovitz, Arbor's chief scientist, who argues that IT managers need to understand how macro Internet traffic trends will affect the design and management of their own network backbones. 'This will affect how enterprises plan their services... whether they host their own services or whether they use cloud vendors,' Labovitz says. 'The enterprise needs to shift its thinking in terms of [service level agreements] and the way it measures, monitors and secures its networks. That all used to be focused on connectivity, but now it needs to be focused on content.'"
blah blah blah GOOGLE blah blah blah IT MANAGERS blah blah blah NETWORK BACKBONE blah blah blah THE CLOUD blah blah blah THE ENTERPRISE blah blah blah.
A large proportion of that traffic should be from GoogleBot. And I wouldn't consider Google an ISP, but just a Service(s) Provider.
...for clown vendors.
And yet so many people think that Google *is* the internet these days.
TFA won't say who's ahead of google :(
And I thought Google TiSP was just a joke...
If Google is an Internet Service Provider then where is the access because I would LOVE to drop AT&T DSL and use something that has better pricing with better bandwidth (AT&T DSL is the only fucking option where I live to all you competition is good assholes out there)
Now I would agree with a statement that Google is one of the largest consumers of internet bandwidth, or they are one of the largest content providers on the internet, but ISP...come on. Next thing you know some /.'ers will be harping on how Google should have common carrier status or some other BS.
Full disclosure, I did not read TFA and I am in a pissed off mood, common slashdot conditions.
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Only one tier 1 provider – a wholesaler to other ISPs – carries more Internet traffic on its backbone network than Google does (Arbor declined to identify the provider)
Arbor may decline to identify the largest provider but this is Slashdot, damn it. You know you will find the answer here.
And, the answer is... Level 3 Communications
What happend to Akamari? Don't they serve much more data then google?
And here's why:
Google is already in our internet search lives, our phones, and email. Google is already plotting to get into our living rooms and kitchens. Where will this stop? Guys, I am getting quite concerned about Google. Who wouldn't be?
So when will they be selling access points in my area?
---- Booth was a patriot ----
TFA is a puff piece interview of the guy who put out the press release.
Amazingly shoddy journalism.
Here's what he said in the comments
Comment Post by: Craig Labovitz -- October 26th, 2010 @ 7:47 am EST Reply
Given commercial sensitivities, we are not disclosing any rankings of other providers. Though most backbone engineers would probably have the right guess.
It's not a secret that Level 3 is #1 and will probably stay that way since they can easily increase their bandwidth.
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'This will affect how enterprises plan their services... whether they host their own services or whether they use cloud vendors,' Labovitz says. 'The enterprise needs to shift its thinking in terms of [service level agreements] and the way it measures, monitors and secures its networks. That all used to be focused on connectivity, but now it needs to be focused on content.'"
I read this through 3 times and I'm still pretty sure it doesn't mean anything at all
Really, is it fair to call them the largest ISP? Sure, they may technically be an ISP, and they may have a ton of search traffic, but those two are non-inclusive of each other. They don't actually provide connectivity to millions of customers like Comcast or Verizon do. As for selling wholesale Tier 1 access, I doubt it's more than Global Crossing or AT&T.
My big issue with this article is that it reads like a plug for cloud-based (what's that supposed to mean again?), a.k.a content-based hosting when that's not how most businesses do telecom. Most people are concerned with SLAs and bandwidth because they want to run their own services for privacy and security reasons. Things like Google Apps are great, but rest assured, Google employees are reading your email whether it's condoned or not.
On top of that, this past week Google bid 2 billion to acquire 111 Eighth Ave, New York's ISP hub in Manhattan http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/google-near-purchase-of-nyc-landmark-building-at-111-eighth-ave/19692398/
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Google is not an ISP. They are a content provider with a whole bunch of really good peering contracts and private fiber. They are not (yet) an ISP.
ISPs provide Internet service to end users. I don't even include transport providers (Level3, UUnet, Sprint, GBLX, etc.) as ISPs.
There are not many pure ISPs left. Clearwire is about the only one I can think of on a national scale.
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He's got every book, every fact, every song in the world. If I'm shopping for something, he can show me the prices nearby that it's offered at. He can bring me anything that is sold in all the world. He can tell me how to get to anywhere, and sell me tickets too. He'll even show my my place in the Universe. He knows so much about me that when I ask him the news, he only gives me the news I find interesting - and he found this out because I told him.
It's threatening. Though he's not done anything mean or spiteful yet that much power can't be good. It seems every time I ask him for something he learns even more about what I want, and uses that information to serve me better and even faster. It's creepy. Somebody rescue me please!
I could just leave him home but he's so darned useful. What if I needed to know the emergency treatment for jellyfish sting or something, and he wasn't there?
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You know, this is Slashdot, and I am among those who use AdBlock Pro, NoScript and /etc/hosts autoupdated via cron for a nice, clean surfing experience. So I hear what you're saying concerning Google Analytics going to the loop interface. Not allowing GA via NoScript also works well.
But being a freelance consultant with multiple web sites using GA (and Piwik, mind you), it's not feasible, because if you block GA via *any* method, you can't query your own statistics any more. Allowing and disallowing GA every time isn't very practical, as is using a different browser just for accessing one web site.
If someone has a nice idea concerning this dilemma, I'm open for suggestions. Until then, I'll keep using Safari for my commercial needs, but boy, this is unelegant.
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I haven't heard about it.
Arbor Networks/Tektronix, Craig Labovitz... bwhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ... are they out of business yet? Tens of thousands of dollars for devices that require a sales engineer to accompany them because configuring them is such a cluster... Figuring out the macro trends that affect the design and management of it's own company might be more of a priority for Arbor!
'nuff said
Many sites are reporting this article as "Google now the 2nd largest ISP"--indicating how low the standards of tech journalism are. The original report states that IF Google were an ISP, it would be the world's second largest. And it is not even clear what metric is being used. Petabytes per day? Capacity? clearly nothing with any distance measure attached. I assume petabytes per day is used and the point is simply that Google is the largest content provider in the world.
But the article is misleading because Google does own some of its own fiber--if I looked at just the headline, I would assume that google had actually become the second biggest ISP.
For shame, tech sites!
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