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Construction On Spaceship Factory Set To Begin In the Mojave

angry tapir writes "A production facility that would build the world's first fleet of commercial spaceships is set to begin construction on Tuesday at the Mojave Air and Space Port. The facility will be home to The Spaceship Co, or TSC — a joint venture owned by Mojave-based Scaled Composites and British billionaire Richard Branson's space tourism company, Virgin Galactic."

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  1. New Vegas... What about mutants? by Tei · · Score: 3, Funny

    My suggestion is to have tiny crates all around with scraps metal and drugs.

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  2. I must be dreaming by Sockatume · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Headlines like that give me goosebumps.

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    1. Re:I must be dreaming by Taxman415a · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah, I think a spaceship factory is kind of cool too, but with a name like Mojave Air and Space Port, I'm really disappointed there's been 30 some comments and no one has made a reference to the "wretched hive of scum and villainy", Mos Eisley. It's even out in the desert southwest where at least one of the far off shots from the film were done.

  3. I'm waiting for an unearthly voice... by Dexter+Herbivore · · Score: 3, Funny

    saying "We require more Vespene gas"

    1. Re:I'm waiting for an unearthly voice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      They're clearly doing it all wrong. Factory is for ground units; build a spaceport ffs!

  4. long term plans? by Vectormatic · · Score: 3, Informative

    TFA mentions the factory will produce:
    - three white-knight IIs
    - five SpaceshipTwos

    so, what will happen after these 8 builds? Any plans for spaceshipThree?

    Cool stuff though, if branson can build some type of spaceshipthree which does orbital flight en masse, this might be the beginning of true private spaceflight

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    1. Re:long term plans? by Seth+Kriticos · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Orbital flight is still future talk for them. The WhiteKnight/SpaceShipTwo combos can only do sub-orbital flights (around 100 km, half of orbital flight). But they are also quite cheep at $200k. Maybe in a few years they'll offer leo/geo flights too, or maybe even further.

    2. Re:long term plans? by kingturkey · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Wikipedia says the plan for SpaceShipThree will be point-to-point sub-orbital flights rather than orbital as previously planned. But obviously that's contingent on their continuing success.

      I'm truly amazed that they're this far along, I've previously written this stuff off as fantasy but it really is happening. There aren't hovercars but we're almost living in the future.

    3. Re:long term plans? by damburger · · Score: 2, Informative

      100km suborbital is "half" of orbital flight? and this gets modded 'Informative'?

      Presumably 'half' is a purely qualitative guess by someone who doesn't understand newtonian mechanics?

      Hybrid rocket engines cannot give you the mass fraction to get into orbit. Those lightweight hulls cannot withstand the temperatures associated with re-entry from orbit. TSC isn't going to build an orbital spacecraft any time soon, sorry to burst your bubble.

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    4. Re:long term plans? by Lillebo · · Score: 2, Informative

      There aren't hovercars but we're almost living in the future.

      We're actually not that far away when it comes to hovercars either: DARPA's flying Humvee

    5. Re:long term plans? by jollyreaper · · Score: 2, Insightful

      [quote]Wikipedia says the plan for SpaceShipThree will be point-to-point sub-orbital flights rather than orbital as previously planned. But obviously that's contingent on their continuing success.

      I'm truly amazed that they're this far along, I've previously written this stuff off as fantasy but it really is happening. There aren't hovercars but we're almost living in the future.[/quote]

      What's also nice is this approach seems more realistic, each stage of the process intended to generate a positive cashflow, the profits being rolled into the next stage. Too many of these projects try to do everything at once and never even get off the ground. So to the naysayers who go waa waa, this thing's only sub-orbital, just wait another generation or three.

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    6. Re:long term plans? by delinear · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I never really thought about it before, but surely the war on terror has killed the hover car as anything but a plaything for the super rich. Can you honestly imagine our twitch-reaction governments allowing people to fly around in cars? I can't even board a plane that someone else is flying without letting them pat-down search me and look in my shoes.

    7. Re:long term plans? by drcheap · · Score: 2, Funny

      There aren't hovercars but we're almost living in the future.

      I want to live in the future. Every night I go to sleep thinking, "tomorrow is the future, and so when I wake up I'll be living there!" But then I wake up and damned if it isn't just "today" again, and the future is yet again 1 day away :(

  5. Fallout New Vegas?? by Dudibob · · Score: 3, Funny

    They should call this facility REPCONN Aerospace

  6. I'm almost done with the Nights Dawn trilogy... by VMaN · · Score: 2, Interesting

    .. and P.F. Hamilton likes to include timelines, e.g.

    2020 — Cavius base established. Mining of lunar subcrustal resources starts.
    2037 — Beginning of large-scale geneering on humans; improvement to immunology system, eradication of appendix, organ efficiency increased.
    2041 — First deuterium-fuelled fusion stations built; inefficient and expensive.
    2044 — Christian reunification.
    2047 — First asteroid capture mission. beginning of Earth’s O’Neill halo.

    I'd love to see this story as one of those timeline points...

    1. Re:I'm almost done with the Nights Dawn trilogy... by kevinNCSU · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not Catholic but why would the Vatican need to revise positions based upon the discovery of other earth-like planets? Haven't they been saying for a awhile now that it's entirely possible other intelligent life could exist? One would assume intelligent life would likely come from some sort of habitable planet right? Or is there some fine grained difference between allowing for the the possibility of intelligent life and allowing for the possibility of earth-like planets that I'm missing?

  7. Your doing it wrong by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yawn. Wake me when they start building an orbiting spaceship factory.

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  8. The Mojave Spaceport.... by benwiggy · · Score: 5, Funny

    You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.

  9. Altitude is irrelevant. We need velocity! by captainpanic · · Score: 3, Informative

    Altitude is quite irrelevant. It's velocity we need!

    The potential energy of 1 kg at 250 km is 2.5 MJ/kg.
    The kinetic energy of 1 kg at 7000 m/s is 25 MJ (10x as much!).
    The atmosperic drag adds less than 20% to the energy requirements.

    The point I try to make? We need velocity! How fast does that Space Ship go? (No, I didn't RTFA - it may be in there...)

    p.s. 100 km is half orbital only because low earth orbit is at about 200 km.

  10. Wretched hive of scum and villany by Gothmolly · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why not call it Mos Eisley?

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    1. Re:Wretched hive of scum and villany by geekoid · · Score: 2, Funny

      Because Lucas is a big cry baby and whiner.

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  11. Re:Private Sector efficiency! by alen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    the government did this first in the days when supercomputers were less powerful than iphones and droids. back then the engineers had to actually do the math by hand and test everything via trial and error

  12. Stop complaining by yodleboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hey, can we stop complaining already? NASA and the rest of the space "industry" has had 50 years to make the geek dream of going into space possible for the (more or less) common man. Sub-orbital still counts as space, although it would seem it's not "enough" space for some.

    NASA's manned program hasn't done much more than allow a select few to pedal circles around the planet since the end of Apollo. Sure, there were some amazing developments and innovations from that, but the act of getting to orbit? Who cares? You did that 50-ish years ago as well. The shuttle should never have gotten off the ground, and certainly should have been mothballed after Challenger. It was obvious by then that the program was vastly more expensive than expected anyway. All those satellites would have still gone up on conventional rockets, and much of the science could have been sent up in automated labs.

    Imagine what 10 or 15 years of the manned spaceflight budget going into finding some other way into orbit might have produced. There have been proposals and ideas for decades, but with the shuttle eating up most of the budget, there was never the funding to really TRY. Sure it may have produced nothing at all (unlikely i think), but we'll never know.

    Not trying to sound like a NASA hater, I love space and spaceflight. What I don't love is trillions of dollars spent to go in circles and make work for the astronaut corps.

  13. Northrop by Cobalt+Jacket · · Score: 2, Informative

    It should be noted that Scaled Composites has been a unit of Northrop Grumman for a couple of years now. With Burt Rutan retiring, it will become more under NGC control. However, NGC does not have a regular rocket launch unit as Boeing and Lockheed does, so there's no reason that NGC will not continue allowing Scaled Composites to prosper.

  14. Shouldn't it be called 'shipyard' ? by macson_g · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Shouldn't it be called 'shipyard' instead of 'factory'?

  15. Re:Economic Stimulus by geekoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    we could also spend 50 billion fixing the Katrina disaster, which would create 10's of thousands of jobs. It would have the side benefit of having that area look like cit's in a civilized country.

    Of course, in a country where that part of the country complains the feds aren't helping, and ALSO complains the government is 'too big'* so they vote republican**. Maybe they deserve to live in squalor.

    *what the hell does that even mean?

    **which makes no sense because for 50 years spending has alway gone up signifigantly during pub control. Look it up.

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