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Feeling Upset? Look At Some Meat

Meshach writes "A study out of Canada claims that seeing meat actually calms a person down. From the article: 'Contrary to expectations, a McGill University researcher has discovered that seeing meat makes people significantly less aggressive. Frank Kachanoff, who studies evolution at the university’s department of psychology, had initially thought the presence of meat would provoke bloodlust, believing the response would have helped our primate ancestors hunt. But in fact, his research showed the reverse is true.'" I can see all the "Make Steak, Not War!" protest signs already.

155 comments

  1. Go tell that to PETA by digitaldc · · Score: 2, Funny

    They will show you some very calming asparagus shoots.

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    1. Re:Go tell that to PETA by CFBMoo1 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Usually it isn't the asparagus that helps me feel better so much as the lady holding it.

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    2. Re:Go tell that to PETA by BStroms · · Score: 5, Funny

      The article makes sense to me. Nothing like sitting down for a meal and being presented with a plate full of vegetables to send you into a rage. A nice roast turkey or the like, however, will have you thinking of little next to how much you're going to enjoy your meal.

    3. Re:Go tell that to PETA by sznupi · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Yeah, such preference might have made evolutionary sense for most of time our species exists (plus those leading to us...), when meat was much more scarce.

      Now...it seems like a lot of people still fall into that instinct, of course. Daily, many times a day... (similar with alcohol probably; out of three fruits: fresh, fermented and rotten - two are better. Which means beings with some preference towards alcohol might have slight evolutionary advantage, thanks to additional calories now and then. But now effects of distilled alcohol exploit that preference?)

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    4. Re:Go tell that to PETA by lordmetroid · · Score: 1, Informative

      A calorie is only the same as the next calorie if you put it a substance on fire. In the body however, substances are not lit on fire, instead different substances have different metabolic paths. Alcohole is metabolized in the liver and requires you to expand energy in order to dispose of the poison and turn it into the harmless fats that can be stored on the outside of your belly and other fatty tissues.

    5. Re:Go tell that to PETA by sznupi · · Score: 1

      But some random fermented fruit would most likely give more energy than its alcohol content "burns", don't you think?

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    6. Re:Go tell that to PETA by khallow · · Score: 1

      Alcohole is metabolized in the liver and requires you to expand energy in order to dispose of the poison and turn it into the harmless fats

      Not that I'm here to fight, but that still may be a net energy gain.

    7. Re:Go tell that to PETA by somersault · · Score: 1

      Hence why he said it's being stored as fat. I thought he was making a joke.

      Alcohol consumption raises the levels of cortisol in your system - which makes you store more fat around the belly area; it also reduces testosterone levels, making it harder to build muscle. Artificial sweeteners have been linked to cortisol levels too since at least some of them are broken down by the liver.

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    8. Re:Go tell that to PETA by Xtravar · · Score: 1

      Alcohol itself is not stored as fat. Only a small percentage of it would actually directly turn into fat. It's the fact that alcohol energy takes precedence over other sources of energy that causes fat to be stored.

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    9. Re:Go tell that to PETA by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Personally, I prefer the PETA angel ...
      http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/03/peta_angel/

      Or if you the anti-python ad...
      http://www.peta-sucks.com/smf/index.php?topic=34648.0

    10. Re:Go tell that to PETA by daemonenwind · · Score: 3, Funny

      It would explain why those PETA folks are always so pissed off.

    11. Re:Go tell that to PETA by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      Alcohole is [...]

      My mouth you insensitive somethingorother.

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    12. Re:Go tell that to PETA by itsenrique · · Score: 1

      I'm relatively sure it is. Ethanol comes in at 9kcal/gram. They don't call them beer guts for nothing.

    13. Re:Go tell that to PETA by janerules · · Score: 1

      I noticed i can be fairly agressive when im hungry.

  2. I'd rather look at mammaries by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Funny

    (which of course are not meat, but skin-covered fat.) Much more calming.

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    1. Re:I'd rather look at mammaries by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2, Funny

      Strange. I find them exciting.

      I guess we are all different.

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    2. Re:I'd rather look at mammaries by donscarletti · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I find them very calming also. Even though since I was weaned, I have so far only have a chance to interact them during sex, I would still associate them more with nutriment than arousal. The warm feeling of two soft breasts against ones skin during a loving or even a friendly embrace feels as comforting as another pair of arms around one's body. I have heard that the association of breasts with sexuality is strongest in men who were not breastfed, I guess because having something associated with ones mother kind of takes the sexy out of anything.

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    3. Re:I'd rather look at mammaries by domulys · · Score: 1

      If that's the case (and you're a fan of the Onion on Facebook) then you were treated to a pleasant surprise this morning.

    4. Re:I'd rather look at mammaries by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      In other mammals breasts only exist for one purpose: Feeding the baby. Once the baby is grown, they shrivel and all-but-disappear.

      It is only in humans that permanent breasts have developed, as a way to entice men ("Yes dummy I'm a woman - you can tell by my chest.").

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    5. Re:I'd rather look at mammaries by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      Now see, that topless girl just does nothing for me.

      Yes of course I think she's cute and even attractive, but until she starts playing with her vibrator, she's just another naked animal. Not particularly exciting.

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    6. Re:I'd rather look at mammaries by Genda · · Score: 1

      That udderly fascinating...

    7. Re:I'd rather look at mammaries by Paracelcus · · Score: 1

      I'm more of a leg/rump man, big hooters were never that big a deal for me, when I was young they were usually bound up in armor plated bras, so that they even looked pointy! A sleek, fit, athletic young woman is what I would consider the (ideal).

      As to looking at meat being calming, a dry-aged steak, on a plate with a potato and a bottle of 57 sauce will calm me down right away!

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    8. Re:I'd rather look at mammaries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi Mr Uninformed, please meet the bonobo:

      "Females have slightly more prominent breasts, in contrast to the flat breasts of other female apes, although not so prominent as those of humans." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo#Physical_characteristics

    9. Re:I'd rather look at mammaries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've heard it's a throwback to when we used to reproduce doggy style. When it changed to missionary the breasts started getting a bit bigger to look like an ass.
      [citation needed]

  3. Hmmm by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if it matters if you're vegetarian or not?

    1. Re:Hmmm by cmdr_tofu · · Score: 1

      It does. I am never pleased to find a piece of meat in my broccoli with tofu. It has happened, and I usually don't get calmed down until they refund my money, take the food back, and provide a new meal.

    2. Re:Hmmm by Rogerborg · · Score: 4, Funny

      Secretly, you eat half of it, and that gives you the strength to feign indignation. It's OK, we're all friends here - you can be honest.

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    3. Re:Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Strange, I once found a piece of broccoli and tofu in my meat, and had the same reaction.

    4. Re:Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really. A vegetarian loses the ability to digest meat. Eating half of that would probably give him diarrhea (from the meat juice on the veggies).

    5. Re:Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see this quoted all the time, but there is ZERO science to back it up. How could you lose the ability to digest meat?

      I've heard people try to say that you lose the ability to process glycogen, but you can not "lose" the ability to process something so fundamental, that's like saying you lost the ability to process starch. Furthermore, if you were born without that ability, it causes serious, crippling metabolic diseases, even for vegans, because your own muscles rely on glycogen. When that goes wrong, muscles stop working properly.

      If you had been eating an extremely low-fat veggie diet, then ate a KFC Double Down, sure, you might get the runs. But it would be from the sudden increase in fat, not the meat. Eating a bunch of greasy french fries would do the same thing. More than likely, you would get a bit constipated from a sudden drop in fiber, but that's still not a function of the meal being meat/not meat.

      If anything, it is a psychosomatic response.

  4. beef curtains by inode_buddha · · Score: 1

    beef curtains always makes me feel better

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    1. Re:beef curtains by Yewbert · · Score: 1

      Came for the inevitable pr0n/"I'm thinking Arby's!" post, leaving somewhat satisfied and somewhat,... distracted.

  5. This isn't a dirty thing. by QuantumBeep · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm sure there won't be any dirty jokes made about this at all.

    1. Re:This isn't a dirty thing. by NtwoO · · Score: 1

      Only heterosexual women and homosexual men are appeased by looking at meat. (and not being denied their wishes)

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    2. Re:This isn't a dirty thing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a heterosexual woman, I'd like to point out that "meat" is one of the least visually appealing body parts a person can look at. Sure it has it's uses, but there's nothing more horrifying than watching a naked man pick up a towel.

    3. Re:This isn't a dirty thing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Feeling Upset? Look At Some Meat."

      -Brett Favre

    4. Re:This isn't a dirty thing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Contrary to expectations, a McGill University researcher has discovered that seeing meat makes people significantly less aggressive."

      Dunno about that...last time I showed people my meat to stop a road rage incident they were quite aggressive. The police officer wasn't too happy either...something about "keeping my pants on in a public place" and "Think of the Children!!" Said something about "indecent exposure" too IIRC....

    5. Re:This isn't a dirty thing. by arkane1234 · · Score: 1

      My advice: find men who aren't abese.

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    6. Re:This isn't a dirty thing. by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Straight women find naked men picking up towels "horrifying"...that doesn't make one bit of sense to me but I'll try to remember it. I mean, I could watch naked women pick up towels aaaalll daaay loooong :D

      But right, don't pick up a towel when naked around women, got it.

      (insert Wayne's World time warp effect here)

      (~10 years later, married)

      *stepping out of shower while wife brushes teeth*

      "Honey I need you to get out of the bathroom for a second so I can...do something. You don't want to see me do this, trust me. Come on it will just take a second...Okay fine, but don't say I didn't warn you..." *braces for scream and reaches for towel*

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  6. What about vegetables? by chemicaldave · · Score: 4, Funny

    Will looking at some spinach put you into a rage then? It certainly seemed that way for Popeye.

    1. Re:What about vegetables? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Will looking at some spinach put you into a rage then? It certainly seemed that way for Popeye.

      Or maybe because Olive had no meat on her bones.
         

    2. Re:What about vegetables? by Machtyn · · Score: 1

      Did Popeye go into a rage at seeing the spinach or was he already enraged and then went for the spinach. Personally, I like fresh spinach. The canned stuff is just blech!

  7. damn by aquabat · · Score: 2, Funny

    missed first roast!

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    1. Re:damn by yanyan · · Score: 1

      Relax. Here, to help you calm down take a look at my meat.

  8. Does that lady on the street seem upset? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2, Funny

    Show her your meat!

    Keep a copy of TFA for when the cops show up.

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  9. Chill dude. It's Thanksgiving. by jedidiah · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Of course. Why do you need to be "aggressive" when it's Thanksgiving? You've already got your kill and you are about to chow down. You and the rest of your extended family doesn't have to worry about starving for awhile. You can relax a little. This is about "being fat and happy" rather than "fight or flight". Of course "plenty" is going to be relaxing.

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  10. Hitler was a vegetarian by plopez · · Score: 5, Funny

    and a teetotaler. Do you need more proof? :)

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    1. Re:Hitler was a vegetarian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      +1 For skifull use of Godwin!

    2. Re:Hitler was a vegetarian by sznupi · · Score: 1

      He also loved dogs and hated cats. Just sayin'...

      (otoh - Jesus died a virgin (or so the popular mythology often goes) ... hm, w8, that argument breaks down on /. )

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    3. Re:Hitler was a vegetarian by geekprime · · Score: 1

      But it never works, the argument never ends with it.

    4. Re:Hitler was a vegetarian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His comment was truly made of God and Win

    5. Re:Hitler was a vegetarian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just to clear it up for you, Godwin's Law says nothing about ending an argument.

      In a nutshell, it says "as an argument goes on longer and longer, the probability of someone being compared to Hitler approaches 1"

    6. Re:Hitler was a vegetarian by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      +1 For skifull use of Godwin!

      Yep, it's downhill all the way.

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    7. Re:Hitler was a vegetarian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (otoh - Jesus died a virgin (or so the popular mythology often goes) ... hm, w8, that argument breaks down on /. )

      I bet Maria Magdalena took his V-card after washing his feet with her hair.

    8. Re:Hitler was a vegetarian by sznupi · · Score: 1

      PS. And how could I forget - he also hated smoking (in fact, it made Nazi Germany the first place with strong anti-tobacco movement)

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  11. So Lady Gaga... by VoiceInTheDesert · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...was just trying to make us all feel better? That was nice of her.

  12. makes sense by ico2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It makes perfect sense. If you can see meat then the hunt is over.

    1. Re:makes sense by confused+one · · Score: 1

      and it's time to relax and eat.

    2. Re:makes sense by sznupi · · Score: 1

      Or a fight. Also if it's your meat - you might as well relax ;p (though I'm not sure how that trait would be passed on - unless relaxing helps in survival of serious wounds, somehow...)

      Might be not such a useful thing with shelfs in shopped overfilling with the stuff...

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    3. Re:makes sense by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "It makes perfect sense. If you can see meat then the hunt is over."

      So THAT is what the hole in the partition is for!

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  13. Sounds like a job for... by gearsmithy · · Score: 2, Funny

    anger managemeat

  14. In the immortal words of Bruce Willis... by uzd4ce · · Score: 1

    "I am a meat popsicle."

  15. This is clearly a mis-steak! by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've got a bone to pick with that pork-barrel study, but after we chew the fat together, I won't have a beef with them anymore - unless they're too chicken, in which case something fishy may be going on.

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  16. The peasants have no bread, so... by jayme0227 · · Score: 1

    Let them eat steak.

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  17. I knew meat was a freemason conspiracy by scourfish · · Score: 1

    Meat is a conspiracy by the Freemasons and the Illuminati to calm down the sheeple population so that they don't protest against our reptillian overlords. See www.flouridewater911vaccinemoonlandingtruth.com to be enlightened; free your mind, bro.

  18. WHAT THE HELL?! by balaband · · Score: 4, Funny

    WTF IS THIS SHI.....oh look at the pretty picture.....mmmm.......BBQ......what was I on about.....ah yes......why do I have to hate M$ so much? And apple closed source is actually good for the users....

    I'm gonna go and open Facebook account now.

    1. Re:WHAT THE HELL?! by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      You mean Apple sauce is good with the bacon, surely

  19. Yet Another Meaningless Research by nomad-9 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    What possibly could be remotely important about this study?

    Basically, the researcher made a completely arbitrary "evolutionary" assumption that the view of meat provoked "blood lust", despite any evidence to that. And then he stood corrected after wasting funds on that largely irrelevant issue. Blood lust didn't help our ancestors hunt, hunger did. It would seem way more logical to most people - except to that researcher, obviously - that the view of meat would calm them, since it meant "dinner's (almost?) ready".

    The view of meat could provoke anger with some people like veggie activists, but this has nothing to do with our ancestors hunting for food, IMO.

    1. Re:Yet Another Meaningless Research by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What possibly could be remotely important about this study?

      It's research. Who says what is important? It's interesting to the researcher and that's what matters. If something good comes out of it, all the better. Just because you're disinterested in it doesn't make it worthless.

      Basically, the researcher made a completely arbitrary "evolutionary" assumption that the view of meat provoked "blood lust", despite any evidence to that. And then he stood corrected after wasting funds on that largely irrelevant issue. Blood lust didn't help our ancestors hunt, hunger did. It would seem way more logical to most people - except to that researcher, obviously - that the view of meat would calm them, since it meant "dinner's (almost?) ready".

      Research works by postulating a hypothesis, and carrying out an experiment to see if it holds true or not. He made an 'arbitrary' assumption based on his logic, followed it through and found it didn't work. The resulting evidence will make cause him rebase his initial assumptions. Science at work.

      Why would a grant allowing research on the human psyche be wasted? These things are vetted by boards before being granted, so someone out there wiser and smarter than you thinks there may be merit.

    2. Re:Yet Another Meaningless Research by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Evolutionary psychology often wanders into rather iffy regions, and I agree that the study's base assumption seems without merit. However, it did result in an article that pissed off our office vegan, so that was a definite benefit.

  20. Huh. by AndrewNeo · · Score: 1

    Is this why I don't get frustrated playing Super Meat Boy?

  21. This actually makes a lot of sense by Nadaka · · Score: 1

    By the time you turn an animal into meat, you don't need to fight or run any more as long as there isn't to much competition within your group.

  22. We're supposed to talk to meat? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Omigod. You're serious then. They're made out of meat.

  23. I'm sure... by pahles · · Score: 2, Funny

    if I show people my meat, they will get upset. Well, some of them...

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  24. We're a cooperative species by The+Raven · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Once you can see MEAT, the hunt is over. Time to calm down and eat. Makes sense to me. We're not jackals, who fight for carrion; or lions who compete for who gets to eat the kill. We're a cooperative species, so once the hunt is done and the meat is out, time to stop producing adrenaline from the hunt and get to the business of sharing the meat out to the group.

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    1. Re:We're a cooperative species by khr · · Score: 1

      Well that, and that the unsuspecting cooperative parts of the group are a lot easier to kill for their share of the meat than the live animals that supplied it...

    2. Re:We're a cooperative species by rtbyte · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Well that, and that the unsuspecting cooperative parts of the group are a lot easier to kill for their share of the meat than the live animals that supplied it...

      That's the true American way !!! Humans that act this way will soon or later be killed by the others if they are not clever enough to do it without everybody seeing it as the lions do. There always be people that do it and there always be killed for that if caught that's the way the humans work. And I'm guessing if by some reason those that kill humans for their share increase over some critical mass that society will just die in hunger. Not a bright forecast for the US future ;)

    3. Re:We're a cooperative species by cvnautilus · · Score: 1

      Yea, I think this might actually be a pretty important adaptation for the formation of social groups. If, after a hunt, everyone aggressively fought over the kill, there would never be any cooperation. Without cooperation, it's doubtful our species would have lasted long.

    4. Re:We're a cooperative species by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "We're not jackals, who fight for carrion; or lions who compete for who gets to eat the kill."

      Well, we don't compete with each other for food in the modern world. Were that situation to change I'd have no problem killing other human competitors to survive, or to eat them if that's the only option.

      The taboos against that are for tribal convenience (well, most tribes!) and may be disregarded in extremis.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custom_of_the_Sea

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    5. Re:We're a cooperative species by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're wrong, as usual. Even apes compete for who gets the largest share of the kill, and who gets nothing. So no, once the meat is out, there's still competition based on rank, alpha males get more than your kind, delta males, in apes especially. And speaking of cooperation, Hyenas are just as, or even more so, cooperative than apes, and they too fight for who gets the larger share. So you are wrong about both, cooperative nature of non apes, and apes.

    6. Re:We're a cooperative species by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

      I am not sure about lions, I know they have some order (for example the male(s) go first).
      and I believed they are similar to a wolf pack with a strict pecking order, as any pack of animal is likely to form.
      SO I am not certain, but I do not think they fight over it. The important ones might push the less important away, but it is not a fight because both of them know who is the boss.

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  25. Calming? by hellfire · · Score: 1

    "If a woman shares with me her breasts, I tend to leap at them. RAWR! Because they might go away..."

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    1. Re:Calming? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "He who receives a breast, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me."

      Thomas Jefferson

      TJ was a freaky dude

    2. Re:Calming? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another, lesser known quote which followed later that evening (after half a bottle of whiskey), was : "Women with big boobs really do it for me. I dunno what it is, but man oh man..." after which he fell asleep in an upright position, staring at his wife's bosom. There was even talk of trying to work that phrase into the American constitution, at one point.

  26. Godwin! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hitler was a vegetarian.

    If the French had gone to the Rhineland with slabs of meat, WW2 could have been averted.

  27. Wrong images. by John+Hasler · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You don't see the raw meat until after you've caught and killed the animal and are ready to eat. Bloodlust is not appropriate at that point. He needs to redo the experiment with images of prey animals running away.

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    1. Re:Wrong images. by L3370 · · Score: 1

      Well many humans no longer have to look for the prey, so watching a gazelle hopping around probably wouldn't spark aggression in us.

      But hey, maybe this is why silly things like cow tipping and cock fighting are still around. Since our food source is domesticated, this may serve as release for our natural tendencies.

    2. Re:Wrong images. by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Well many humans no longer have to look for the prey, so watching a gazelle hopping around probably wouldn't spark aggression in us.

      You're right, we need to modernize this experiment to allow for any potential environmental influences on instinctive human behaviors.

      Have test subjects sit in a waiting room for a few hours so they'll be hungry. Then they're given a coupon for a McDonald's burger, and told not to open it until they get outside.

      As soon as they leave the McDonalds the subject is distracted by a text message while a hexacopter with a cargo hook picks up the burger and flies away. The subject is then observed for any aggressive behavior.

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    3. Re:Wrong images. by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      I've seen the reaction a big Yellow M has on child passengers in a car. Clearly images of pray, possibly escaping, can trigger in them a bloodlust.

  28. pleez? by alphatel · · Score: 1

    can i haz cheezburger pic?

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  29. Hmmm, political implications? by Gizzmonic · · Score: 1

    The Obama Administration announced today that the next Palestine-Israel peace talks will be held in Cobber's Butcher Shop, Dayton, Ohio! "We welcome the opportunity of the Israelis and Palestianians to gaze on calming meat and embrace a new era of cooperation," the President said Wednesday.

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  30. Makes sense... by telekon · · Score: 1

    If our primitive ancestors were seeing meat, it meant hunting was done, and they didn't have to worry about getting trampled by a wooly mammoth for a few days. Talk about your stress relief...

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  31. Was Slashdot paid to run nonsense? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fraud? That is a nonsense article that seems to me to be a public relations commercial for the meat industry.

    1. Re:Was Slashdot paid to run nonsense? by arkane1234 · · Score: 1

      Yep, sure, why not. If you don't believe it, it must be false.

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    2. Re:Was Slashdot paid to run nonsense? by cthubik · · Score: 1

      It makes sense. At first I thought it was a typical nonsense newspaper "scientific study" article ("can bees think? a new study shows that no, they cannot"). But it does make sense, it's a primitive response probably; you have the meat, now you can relax.

  32. New Fad by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Finally, all those stale motivational posters will be replaced by deli shots.

  33. then there's some truth in the sig line I saw... by ChristTrekker · · Score: 1

    "Bacon is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

  34. HA! by eegad · · Score: 1

    I knew those whirled peas advocates had it all wrong.

    Seriously, though, even just visualizing a good steak a minute ago calmed me down. I'm thinking this might actually be a tactic known as "distraction through hunger". It works for angry dogs too. Maybe the brain can only handle one primal urge at once.

  35. Bloodlust is before by holophrastic · · Score: 1

    Certainly, seeing meat "could have" caused bloodlust, and certainly that's the easier hypothesis with which to start testing, so I'd have done the same thing. But it certainly makes more sense that it'd be calming.

    When seeing a wild turkey, bloodlust would help the hunter. After killing it, and stripping it, now staring at the meat, the hunting is done, the bloodlust isn't required. What's more, we need to turn into digestive mode -- which in humans is a very energy-intensive task.

    Not to mention, there are only 3.5 requirements for human nourishment. Meat covers one of them. That's quite satisfying.

  36. Oh, spiffing... by TDyl · · Score: 1

    I'm a vegetarian, you insensitive clods.

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      You can still LOOK at meat, you know.

  37. It makes you feel relevant ... by dbIII · · Score: 2, Funny

    It makes you feel relevant because you have a steak in your future.

  38. ironically by unity100 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    vegetables are what is used to actually give taste to REAL dishes, even for dishes made with meat. because, meat, always tastes like, well, meat. you have to have vegetables to make something different out of it.

    think : its no different than eating potatoes all the time. same and same. but, we are conditioned by the society to think that we are actually eating well, because, well, we are eating meat. this is reminiscent of the earlier centuries in which meat was hard to find, and therefore considered a richness in the table. its not like that anymore.

    1. Re:ironically by cawpin · · Score: 1

      The only way that can be considered true is if you're counting spices as vegetables. If you aren't, then you need to get some good meat.

    2. Re:ironically by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 0

      Amen. If you ever eat just the meat off of a burger, you'll get what the unity is saying. It's bland, has a horrible texture and is overall unappetizing. Add some lettuce, tomato, pickles, and onions, and you've got a delicious meal.

    3. Re:ironically by geekprime · · Score: 4, Informative

      You cannot taste the difference between different kinds of meat? beef pork lamb etc...!?

      Let alone the difference between a flank steak and a porterhouse?

      Really? Wow!

      I can tell you that there is an obvious difference in the flavor of the meat on the two sides of a porterhouse steak.
      Is there a test for tastebuds? I think you may be missing something.

    4. Re:ironically by unity100 · · Score: 0

      wow yeah !! they are different. pork, lamb, cow. they are so different that, the dishes made by each of them are .... wait, THEY ALL TASTE THE SAME WHATEVER YOU PUT THEM IN, and there are only 4-5 categories.

      moreover, meat always has the protein taste undertone, and dominates any food it is put into.

    5. Re:ironically by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously? All taste the same?

      That's just you. The rest of us can tell chicken from streak.

    6. Re:ironically by geekprime · · Score: 1

      Yup, sorry, that proves it unity100.
      There is definitely something wrong with you if all of that tastes the same to you.

      Really, I'm not trying to be an ass here, I would ask a doctor if there is something that can be done.

      I don't care if you ever like meat or not but think about all the rest of the flavors you are missing if you cannot distinguish such huge differences in flavors.

    7. Re:ironically by malakai · · Score: 3, Informative

      WTF, have you HAD lamb? Lamb taste nothing like beef ( I won't even argue on grain vs grass fed, but blind fold me and I'll tell you the difference ).

      If your saying you can grind up lamb, pork, beef and hide them inside stews with enormous amounts of spices, after perhaps you boiled the crap out of it, then yeah.. you win.. you can't tell the difference. But guess what, I can do the same thing with vegetables, fish, chicken, old leather shoes.... I can over cook and improperly pair bell peppers in a dish and you won't be able to tell what's a piece of pepper and what's a chunk of celery. All that'll remain is some sort of celouse like material.

      moreover, meat always has the protein taste undertone, and dominates any food it is put into

      Let's talk about what doesn't dominate a food it's put into. Fish? Dominate. Root vegetables? Dominate. Gourds? My god, try and sneak a little pumpkin into something.

      Moot point really being taste are such an individual trait. Also I think environment plays a huge role in this. What you were fed as a child, what you choose to eat later in life, what meal your mom made you after your dad left home. My only suggestion to this whole argument is don't take such polarizing stand on something so non-determinable...

    8. Re:ironically by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you only get your burgers from fast food joints, then you may have a point.

    9. Re:ironically by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously, you really are missing something if you don't think different meats and cuts have different flavors.

      Do you really think bacon, pork chops, and ham all taste the same? And I mean unflavored -- no honey baked or maple. Just straight bacon, ham, and chops. They are very different, and if you don't think so, then I'm not exaggerating when I say there's a serious disconnect between your tongue and sinuses and your brain.

      I'll grant that meat flavor is mild compared to fruits and vegetables. But to suggest all meat tastes the same is simply incorrect.

    10. Re:ironically by orlanz · · Score: 1

      I disagree. Unless you consider vegetables as equal to non-meat and state that there is more variety of taste in the former.

      Various meats taste quite differently. And I am not even talking about the cooked kind. Various sushi taste quite differently. Heck the same fish has a different taste based upon where it grew up and how old it is. Same applies for oysters. Even going into boiled, fired, fried, baked, salted, and smoked changes based upon age, feed, location, cooking medium, and type of prepwork (cuts). And this is in the same meat. Lets drop medium and prepwork cause that doesn't directly tie to the taste of "meat". But age, feed, and location do.

      I would say there is a distinct flavor of meat, but there is no "protein" undertone. What about chickpeas, beans, pulses, and nuts? There is no protein undertone to them.

      Fruits & Herbs/Spices, have a massive variety of tastes. But what is actually considered a vegetable doesn't have any more or less of a variety than meat. Remember, vegetables, herbs/spices, & nuts weren't naturally designed to be killed and consumed anymore than meat.

    11. Re:ironically by ComputerGeek01 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I know plenty of people who claim this and it's for the same two or three reasons every time.

      1: They smoke, and have done so for so long that they cannot taste much of anything.

      2: They are the people who drown everything in salt, pepper or some other spice so that the natural flavor or the dish gets overwhelmed no matter what they are eating

      3: Bad cooking, they grew up with a bad cook and never learned how to do it on their own so now they just ignore the flavor of what they eat without thinking about it.

    12. Re:ironically by Gulthek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I was raised a vegetarian and I was the last holdout when we all decided to actually start eating meat. I see where you are coming from.

      But you are absolutely, completely wrong. Meat is an expansive world full of an incredible range of complex flavors.

    13. Re:ironically by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 1

      Interesting. I feel the same about seafood. It all has the same underlying "came from the sea" flavor, and dominates any food it is put into.

      But I can tell the difference between a ribeye and a strip. I can tell the difference between different strips.

      Yes geekprime, some people have difficulty distinguishing flavors. If no one ever made me learn the difference between purple and blue, I might just think they were different shades of the same thing.

    14. Re:ironically by White+Flame · · Score: 1

      No. Spices and sauces are the primary "give taste" factor (except for the connoisseur differences in quality behind grades of the base food), regardless if it's a meat dish or vegetable.

    15. Re:ironically by jesset77 · · Score: 1

      Yup, sorry, that proves it unity100. There is definitely something wrong with you if all of that tastes the same to you.

      Really, I'm not trying to be an ass here, I would ask a doctor if there is something that can be done.

      I don't care if you ever like meat or not but think about all the rest of the flavors you are missing if you cannot distinguish such huge differences in flavors.

      Seeing a doctor is probably a bit extreme unless you are wealthy. I probably can't discriminate a whole lot better than Unity can. I can differentiate between well prepared (steak vs pork vs chicken vs fish), but not (chicken vs turkey) or (ham vs bacon) or (salmon vs cod), let alone different sides of the same porterhouse.

      Also, those distinctions are minuscule compared to (steak vs ground beef), (chicken vs scrambled eggs), or (tuna vs bubble gum). Just to provide some perspective, meat differentiation isn't like telling blue from purple it's like telling prussian from navy.

      Didn't we have a slashdot article recently about coffee taste being impossible to synthesize, but if you label hot brown liquid "coffee" and make the room smell like coffee, people will generally think it is coffee?

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    16. Re:ironically by jesset77 · · Score: 1

      WTF, have you HAD lamb?

      No. In America, we've got Cow + Pig + chicken + fish. We've also got Turkey and Corn. Sheep get raised a lot more for wool than for eating, here, I guess *shrugs*

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    17. Re:ironically by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      geekprime is right. There is something physically wrong with you if you can't taste the differences in meat. Not only should you be able to tell the difference in taste between the different cuts of meet, you should be able to taste the categories of foods that your meat ate.

    18. Re:ironically by box4831 · · Score: 2, Funny

      but if you label hot brown liquid "coffee" and make the room smell like coffee, people will generally think it is coffee?

      Works in our office. They also have carpet cleaner powder in canisters and label it 'creamer'. Only the best for our employees!

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    19. Re:ironically by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's like colors. Can I tell the difference between chartreuse and harlequin? If you put them right next to each other, I could tell that they are different. On their own, I couldn't tell you for sure what I'm looking at.

      Or maybe it's just because I don't care at all.

    20. Re:ironically by geekprime · · Score: 1

      The difference between a drawing and art
      The difference between a great meal and mcdonalds.

      Both may be lost on YOU but that does not mean that no one else can tell and appreciate that difference.

      How sad for you that you can't.
      Have a nice life anyway!

    21. Re:ironically by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know what part of the American continent you live in, but in the section I live in that is commonly referred to as the Pacific Northwest, lamb is quite common. Some people raise goats too, but most people here prefer the taste of lamb over goat.

    22. Re:ironically by malakai · · Score: 1

      I live in N. America as well. While my lamb may not come from America ( I prefer the taste of kiwi lamb ) I still eat it regularly in the US. I almost always have a pack of frozen baby-lamb chops in the freezer waiting for mild summer day to grill them on my rooftop in NYC and serve them with a little dill, garlic, oil and grilled lemons....

      No one ever says to me "Wow, is this beef of some kind?"....

    23. Re:ironically by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What art can you name which relies on the distinction between chartreuse and harlequin?

      There are things I choose to and enjoy noticing distinctions in. Outrageous hues of green and cuts of meat are things which I don't.

      I don't expect you to notice or enjoy all the fine distinctions that I enjoy, either. And I find it bizarre that anyone would find this sad.

      As but one example, understanding any spoken language relies on appreciating *very* subtle differences in sound. There are thousands of spoken languages in the world, and nobody in the world speaks more than a few dozen -- so I can guarantee that both of us, like everyone else, have a different miniscule subset of human language we can appreciate, and you and I almost certainly have (apart from English) a very different set of languages we understand. Is it sad that I can understand Turkish poetry but not Russian? Or Japanese opera but not Mandarin? I don't think so. If I did, I'd spend my time appreciating them instead! As with colors, or meats, or anything else.

      P.S. I wish you a nice life, too!

  39. Might be something to this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My wife & I have often found shopping for meat can be... well... arousing... Maybe we're not just freaks after all!

  40. Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Feeling upset? Look at some meat!"

    I used that exact line on my wife last night.

    *zzzziiippppp*

  41. there by unity100 · · Score: 1

    thats what i was trying to say.

  42. Re: Fleeing meat by Ambivelocity · · Score: 1

    Fleeing meat is much more appropriate

  43. Mod up by Chameleon+Man · · Score: 1

    Surprised this isn't modded higher...but then again you put the word evolutionary in quotes, so the typical slashdot defense mechanism in people prevented any positive modding.

    The article is very short and only gives the sample size, which in my opinion is too small (82). I'm curious to see the raw data and how "persuasive" it was in determining this conclusion. Additionally, other reasonings could be used. I wonder if some of the men used in the study simply enjoy barbequing and they attribute images meat to this.

  44. McGrill University? by iamhassi · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one that saw "McGill University" and thought it said McGrill?

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  45. Meat wallpapers to the rescue by noidentity · · Score: 1

    That's why I always have meat wallpaper on my computer. Unfortunately I tend to eat often.

  46. That'll slow 'em down. by crovira · · Score: 1

    Great! I can just imagine a new PsyOps tactic in Afghanistan.

    Spraying the aroma of slowly simmering meat all over a suspected Al Queda camp. Cover a whole mountainside or carpet (bomb) an entire valley with the sweet smell of roasting meat.

    Instead of “Daisy Cutter” munitions, spread dissension among the opposing side by starving them out (or requiring them to get much better mobile kitchens to run their recruiting.)

    That’ll drive the enemy mad trying to figure out where the ovens are.

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  47. Meet calms you down... by clawhammer · · Score: 1

    ... unless your a militant vegetarian. In which case it's time to call out the riot police.

  48. Why in the hell... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why in the hell would seeing meat prompt bloodlust...as a response to help us hunt? A seriously flawed form logic formed the initial hypothesis. Meat is the result of hunting. First hypothesis should have been that it would have a relaxing effect.

    I'm a cave-man. I've been working my butt off all day to put food on the table while making sure I don't end up as food on the table. At the end of my long, arduous day, I unwind while watching my defeated opponent slowly roast over a hypnotic dance of flames. Finally, the meat is done. I can relax and enjoy a good meal.

  49. Incompatible input format. by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

    Sorry, I must be "evolved". This meat does nothing for me.

    Calming Images:
    A pile of classic arcade game cartridges.
    Earth as seen from the mother ship.
    Our place in the known universe.

  50. Cute, but... by Amorymeltzer · · Score: 1

    This was a study done on 82 Canadian men; apologies if I don't find the findings immediately appropriate. Maybe women are more likely to find meat agitating? Moreover, it's a really weird study. The conclusion that meat is calming comes from not punishing someone for sorting a meat picture - that's just too far removed from reality.

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  51. What's wrong with this picture... by Genda · · Score: 1

    Looking at Lady Gaga at the MTV Awards in her butcher shop couture, made me a lot of things... but calm and sedate weren't among them. She should have made her purse out of a barf bag.

  52. I used to a butcher by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I worked in a slaughter house then as a butcher for many years, and it had effects on me I see live stock and I tell how how delicious they're by just looking at it. My friends often come to me to pick a goat or a calf for their quinceñeras because I can pick right. Sometimes I drool but I don't think is a bad thing. When I see cows grazing is when it happens the most.

  53. Re: Maybe for You by Phrogman · · Score: 1

    If you have no tastebuds. Each type of meat has a distinct taste, definitely different from other types of meat. There is a massive difference between say Lamb and Bison, Moose and Rabbit, Venison and Chicken, Turkey and Beef. If you can't taste any difference between them, then either you are completely without with the required tastebuds to make the distinction, or you are letting a moral stand against being a carnivore cloud your judgment. You may choose to be a vegetarian, but its not natural to our species, who are omnivores by design. Personally, the first solid food I ate was moose meat and I have never looked back.
    I will grant you that spices and sauces and things like that can dramatically alter the base taste of the meat, but claiming that all meat tastes the same is pure speciousness/bullshit.

    Now, as to veggies, I recognize that eating them is part of a balanced diet, but I can't think of a single one that I would prefer to eat over meat, they are always secondary aspects of any meal to me. Not that I eat a lot of meat, its just that for me a meal generally consists of "Meat, plus some other stuff" in the back of my mind.

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  54. Makes no sence by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

    "had initially thought the presence of meat would provoke bloodlust, believing the response would have helped our primate ancestors hunt."
    That makes no sense.
    Why would it be a good thing for are primitive ancestors to want to hunt when they already have caught and butchered meat lying around?
    So it is just the opposite, because it would help out ancestors out to get agitated and go hunt when the food runs out.

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  55. Spinach is an Herb, not Vegetable. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Retards are vegetables: they don't work or move.

    Plant leaves are herbs.
    Plant flesh are meat.
    Plant roots are that actual vegetable matter.
    Plant seeds covered by sugar is the fruit to entice animals to disperse the plant with a reward.
    Stems that dip into the soil, or roots that grow further than fat-storage, is propogation by Layering.

    Even the Holy Bible says this to some degree.

    Just because it's immobile doesn't mean it's a vegetable; it migrates too.

    PS: Marijuana is not a drug as FDA defines "drug" as a synthesized derivated of "any substanced advertised to cure a disease." Jurisprudence! Jurisprudence! Jurisprudence! Jurisprudence!

  56. Hey, makes sense to me... by John+Pfeiffer · · Score: 1

    I can't speak for anyone else, but I know if -I'm- looking at a nice juicy steak, I'm pretty calm and content. :3

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  57. It is simple by HotGarbage · · Score: 1

    Frank Kachanoff, who studies evolution at the university’s department of psychology, had initially thought the presence of meat would provoke bloodlust, believing the response would have helped our primate ancestors hunt.

    The way I see it, it seems simple. The hunt is over, the meat is gathered and prepared. Now it the time for calm. No need for bloodlust.

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  58. Actually - mostly "lamb" is actually "goat" by tanveer1979 · · Score: 1

    Sheep are valuable for wool, and are rarely killed for meat(lamb) when goats are available.

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    1. Re:Actually - mostly "lamb" is actually "goat" by jesset77 · · Score: 1

      Then the question is .. can you tell Lamb from Kid? I guess it proves our point that the meat is interchangeable if you can change the species and they keep calling it lamb. 8I

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    2. Re:Actually - mostly "lamb" is actually "goat" by geekprime · · Score: 1

      I can tell the difference between kid and goat as well as between lamb and mutton(sheep).

      The difference between goat and sheep of any age is so huge I can't imagine that anyone couldn't tell the difference.
      The butcher shops around Chicago that sell goat usually also sell lamb, and even just to look at them they are obviously different, let alone the smell or flavor.

      You veggies seem to need be so sure that everyone else is wrong and you present your "common knowledge" as firsthand knowledge.
      Those of us that eat meat know you are incorrect.

      How about you just stop pretending you know anything about meat and we'll go on not caring what you do or don't eat?

  59. Re: Maybe for You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The first solid you ever ate was Moose? Are you... are you Chuck Norris?

  60. Who is this researcher?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why did he think that hunters need their blood-lust boost AFTER the prey is killed? You dont see the meat BEFORE the hunt mister "scientist"! You see animal before the hunt. The meat becomes visibla AFTER the hunt. Should we laugh or cry?

  61. ehhhhh by unity100 · · Score: 1

    its not about 'differentiating'. i can differentiate in between them. the thing is THERE IS NOT MUCH TO DIFFERENTIATE. only 4 types of taste. compared to the taste difference in between countless vegetables and fruit ingredients, meat comes up pathetic in variety array.

    1. Re:ehhhhh by geekprime · · Score: 1

      You just cant accept that you are wrong on this one can you.

      Whatever, I have better things to do than argue colors with a blind man.

    2. Re:ehhhhh by unity100 · · Score: 1

      yeah. 4 types to differentiate, and there are, what, FOUR of them to be differentiate.

      i cant start even telling that, that limits the things that can be differentiated, TO FOUR.

      and if this is what you are advertising meat to me over, really, dont bother.

  62. Vegans suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Vegetarians are lame anyhow, Eat meat or it will eat you. Vegan = wuss...

  63. "lamb" is actually not commonly consumed here by jesset77 · · Score: 1

    How about you just stop pretending you know anything about meat and we'll go on not caring what you do or don't eat?

    Well, we could start by admitting you know nothing about me. I'm not a vegetarian, and I don't see anyone else this far down the thread who says that they are either. Why don't you look at some meat and calm down. :P

    I eat meat in some form in pretty much every meal, and have my whole life, though the meat selection is largely beef, some chicken and a little pork from time to time. However I live in a small town, on the West Coast, and I'm not certain what a butcher's shop even looks like. I eat fast food, take-away, frozen food, and I have yet to even see "lamb" on a menu anywhere. I imagine it's a fairly unusual thing to eat in my region. Might just be more popular in the mid-west.

    By "our point", I also don't mean "vegetarians", I mean people who don't feel we need to see a doctor just for panning the differences of timbre and undertone between farm animals. If you enjoy the tableau, more power to you, just lose the snobbery.

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