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USB Is the Devil's Connection

Jamie handed us Satan's Data Connection. You see, sane and rational human being, the USB logo is actually in the shape of a trident, and the obvious action to Evangelical Christians in Brazil is to ban its use. Hopefully they don't mispronounce SCSI and find themselves lusting after their PCs.

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  1. it always looked to me like... by roc97007 · · Score: 4, Funny

    A guy lying down carrying a briefcase and a pizza and... wait, never mind...

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    1. Re:it always looked to me like... by longtailedhermit · · Score: 2, Insightful

      [i]Hopefully they don't mispronounce SCSI and find themselves lusting after their PCs. [/i]
      I don't get it. In what way would they have to mispronounce SCSI?

    2. Re:it always looked to me like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      secsy

    3. Re:it always looked to me like... by phozz+bare · · Score: 5, Informative

      Why would that be a mispronounciation? That's how it was originally intended to be pronounced. It's everybody else who's got it wrong :)

    4. Re:it always looked to me like... by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 3, Funny

      Kevin Flynn: Come on, you scuzzy data, be in there. Come on.

      What's not arousing about that?

    5. Re:it always looked to me like... by contra_mundi · · Score: 4, Informative

      Probably from Poseidon.

    6. Re:it always looked to me like... by realityimpaired · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes... but it was originally intended to be "sexy", not "scuzzy".

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scsi#History

      So strictly speaking, pronouncing it as "sexy" isn't actually mispronouncing it. :)

    7. Re:it always looked to me like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Is that the original with Gene Hackman or the remake with Kurt Russel ?

    8. Re:it always looked to me like... by sumdumass · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Since W is double-vee in most languages that use the character wouldn't www == 666666?

      Well, actually, the www=666 is more or less a long running joke that has existed in some form or another since the mid 1990's. I probably first ran across it on my windows 3.11 running Netscape 2.something dialing into what became one of the largest local internet services in my area. The Hebrew language is a lot like the roman numeral system in that when you put numbers beside each other, they are added together. 666 would actually be 18, 666666 would be something like 36. There are rules in how it's done but I don't know them well enough to say anything.

      Here is a link explaining it a little more. Note that the copyright at the top of the page lists 1999 where the one on the bottom of the page lists 1995. '95 sounds about the right time frame as I may had just upgraded to windows 95.

      As for the SCSI being SekSI (sexy), your probably right. I don't remember where I heard that from. I just know I can understand why the Scuzzy sounding name stuck (it's a PITA in some situations)

    9. Re:it always looked to me like... by BronsCon · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's actually the proper pronunciation...

      "Larry Boucher intended SCSI to be an acronym all along. Pronounced "sexy." That didn't quite happen."

      See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCSI

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    10. Re:it always looked to me like... by lxs · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "remake with Kurt Russel"

      Is there any way that Satan isn't involved when those words are uttered?

    11. Re:it always looked to me like... by BronsCon · · Score: 2, Funny

      In response to your comment, I've created the Small Electronic Component System Interface, which is 100% compatible with the Small Computer System Interface as it uses the same cables, pinouts, protocols, and voltages.

      Now we can all have our SECSI interfaces. In fact, your SCSI interface is now a SECSI interface and your SCSI cable is not a SECSI cable. And "sexy" is the proper pronunciation.

      That said, choosy moms pronounce GIF as "jif"; they also annoy me.

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    12. Re:it always looked to me like... by Bassman59 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I always get a laugh out of people who pronounce gif as jif - and yes, I know the creators of the format used a soft G, but that is wrong. Acronym letters should take the sound of the letters in the word they replace.

      What about the illiterates who pronounce, "gigabyte" with a hard G?

      It's the same root as the word, "gigantic." Get it right.

  2. USB is the devil by mirix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But not because of any tridents. Because of too many variants of connectors.

    And it can be a pita to implement for some things, teeny embedded ones for example. Not horrible, but just to set up serial port emulation can be fairly non-trivial. Although luckily people have written nice libs for a lot of things by now.

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  3. Only Apple tried to mispronounce SCSI by billstewart · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The rest of us always called it "scuzzy", and thought Apple Marketing's attempt to rebrand it as "sexy" was just lame.

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    1. Re:Only Apple tried to mispronounce SCSI by schmidt349 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wait, they tried to pronounce it "sexy?" Because nothing says "sexy" to me like the sweet, sweet curves of the Mac IIcx.

    2. Re:Only Apple tried to mispronounce SCSI by pathological+liar · · Score: 4, Informative

      The rest of us? I've always called it SCSI but if you thought "sexy" was a rebranding (or Apple's idea) Larry Boucher would like a word with you...

  4. Now this is... by MrQuacker · · Score: 2, Funny

    A trident tested measure of faith.

  5. I used to hear... by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...that the peace symbol was the Christian cross upside down with the arms broken off! OMG, Satanic message!

    1. Re:I used to hear... by icebraining · · Score: 4, Informative

      [citation needed]

      The creator of symbol says nothing about it representing evil, and the circle representing imprisioning it.

      The symbol is a combination of the semaphore signals for the letters "N" and "D," standing for "nuclear disarmament". In semaphore the letter "N" is formed by a person holding two flags in an upside-down "V," and the letter "D" is formed by holding one flag pointed straight up and the other pointed straight down. Superimposing these two signs forms the shape of the centre of the peace symbol.(...)
      Holtom later wrote to Hugh Brock, editor of Peace News, explaining the genesis of his idea in greater depth: "I was in despair. Deep despair. I drew myself: the representative of an individual in despair, with hands palm outstretched outwards and downwards in the manner of Goya's peasant before the firing squad. I formalized the drawing into a line and put a circle round it."

      Despair, not evil.

  6. Bluetooth... by damn_registrars · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Really? Jesus was born in the middle east and had blue eyes?

    Either way, though, Bluetooth was of course named for a Danish King. While he himself converted to Christianity he certainly ruled over a nontrivial number of non-Christian followers.

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    1. Re:Bluetooth... by PitaBred · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What's even funnier is that most internal Bluetooth cards use... you guessed it. The USB bus. They're still using Satan! Muahahahahahah!

    2. Re:Bluetooth... by demonbug · · Score: 4, Funny

      Really? Jesus was born in the middle east and had blue eyes?

      Duh, that's what the spice does.

    3. Re:Bluetooth... by Surt · · Score: 2, Funny

      To see that it was good?

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  7. Idle Connections are the devil's playthings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Make sure you don't install any SATAn drives either!

  8. Re:Sigh, more Christian bashing. by volkerdi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unfortunately, nowhere in the Bible does Satan ever have a trident. But this is Slashdot... sigh let the Christian bashing begin if it must! :(

    Perhaps you should explain that to the Evangelical Christians in Brazil.

  9. Not a story... by random_ID · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The article even says it is unconfirmed "if this turns up on Snopes don't blame me." Even with my sucky karma I expect better of /.

  10. Religion... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The inhabitants of the earth are of two sorts: Those with brains, but no religion, And those with religion, but no brains.”
      - Abul Ala Al-Maarri

    1. Re:Religion... by forkfail · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, no, no.

      The two groups are those who try to divide everyone into two discrete sets and get it wrong, and those who don't try and get it right.

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    2. Re:Religion... by Creedo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So I assume that you would in the latter group then since you don't understand the difference between faith and religion.

      It depends on how it's used. Faith is just belief which is not based on proof. But a lot of people call their religion "faith." It seems especially popular in Christian circles. In most cases, there is no difference.

      Modern Atheism is a belief system aka. a religion.

      Not even close. Atheism is a lack of theistic beliefs. That's all.

      A personal faith in god is not the same as a belief system/religion/philosophy.

      What a load of bullshit. If your "faith" includes scriptures, commandments and the like, it's a religion, and your naive sounding assertions are crap.

      Religion is a man made system of dogma and rituals.

      Modern Atheism has a set of man made rituals and dogma. Ergo, Atheism == Religion.

      Since you can't define a single piece of ritual or dogma which would include atheists, aside from the obvious "lack of belief in a god" entailed in the definition, you can't even make this specious piece of reasoning work.

      I have a brain and I do not follow a religion. I have a personal faith in god and I share that faith with a community of believers.

      In other words, a fucking church. Geez, are you another liar for Jesus?

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    3. Re:Religion... by Eleanor+235 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would also add that the smart people usually make decisions for themselves about what they believe in, whether that be religion or atheism, whereas the 'dumbasses' tend to follow whoever has the best propaganda. Sometimes that is atheists who like to evangelise, sometimes it's the religion they have been born into that they never think to question, but the common thread is that they all believe whatever is the accepted belief in their environment.

      I have met Atheists who have valid arguments for the non-existence of a god, Atheists who decided to drop any previous theism once they started university (college in the US, I think) because it was 'cool', and Atheists who keep it to themselves.

      I have also met Theists who truly believe in God, follow their organised religion and have well thought out, internally consistent arguments for it; Theists who blindly follow their religion without deciding for themselves if it is true or not and try to convert all non-believers with flawed, hypocritical arguments; and Theists who simply follow their beliefs quietly.

      The same goes for Agnostics, Polytheists and Pantheists

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  11. Re:How many members in this cult? by jd · · Score: 4, Funny

    The entire membership of the Firewire committee.

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  12. Whew thank God... by masterwit · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is good news!

    Just think, if scientology somehow found the keyboard to be a derivative of the devil / whatever-their-evil-avatar-is, the internet would be a much more comforting place also...

    But on another note, do these people know that most computers come with the USB symbol next to the port intended for their devil-plugs? I guess there is nothing preventing them from banning most computers!

    ...

    Users over there really shouldn't despair, there are usb-to-firewire adapters out there...that way they can send the devilish signal back into the fire-filled hell where it belongs!

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  13. translation of original article according to goog by Surt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The evangelical cult "Peace Beloved of the Lord" in the interior of Brazil forbids its followers to use any USB technology by contending that it uses a symbol that makes apology to the devil.

    According to its founder, the Apostle "Welder Saldanha says that this is just a symbol of Satan, is always present in all Christian homes.

    "The symbol of that name (he even likes to pronounce) is a trident, which is used to torture souls go to hell. Use only a symbol of those shows that all users of this technology pífia are actually worshipers of Satan "- explains the " Apostle. "

    Measures were taken so that all the USB connections of his followers were exchanged for common connections and even the Bluetooth (sic), which according to Saldanha Welder is permitted, for "Blue was the color of the eyes of our savior Jesus Christ" .

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  14. USB is pure evil for different reason. by w0mprat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because it's symmetrical. Who but the most evil cabal of engineers on earth would design such a connector to be a perfect rectangle? Without looking closely you have a 50/50 chance of getting the correct orientation.

    Everything in computing from an RJ45 to IEEE 1397 have a obvious shape you can identify the correct orientation from.

    Yes, yes. I know the trident is supposed to go "up" in relation to the trident logo by port on the port. But this varies randomly from one manurfacturer to another, from device to device, and thats those that have the trident logo next to the port at all.

    Mini-B USB, popular for small gadgets, thank god, has an identfiable orientation.

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    1. Re:USB is pure evil for different reason. by MachDelta · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, I thought this was common knowledge. I mean, who HASN'T experienced a severe homicidal urge while trying to plug a USB connection into the backside of some device?

      "Does it go... this way? Nope, lets try the other... no that's not it, maybe the first time was right... well.. no, no I think it IS upside down, hang on... oh fuck, I dropped it! I swear to god if I meet the motherfucker who designed this piece of shit i'm gonna rip his fucking... wait, I GOT IT! Oh thank god! Now, no one touch it, or I will strangle you with the cord and then use it to hang your corpse from a tree. Seriously."

      Well, maybe it's just me.

    2. Re:USB is pure evil for different reason. by ZX-3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > Without looking closely you have a 50/50 chance of getting the correct orientation.

      And yet it typically takes three tries to get it turned the right way...

  15. Obligatory Ron Burgundy Reference by HangingChad · · Score: 2, Funny

    I stabbed a guy in the heart...with a (USB) trident!

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  16. Except that by geekoid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    the number of the beast is 616. The next(or may the recent one?) printing of KJB will have the correct translation.

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  17. Re:who is the devil? by somersault · · Score: 2, Funny

    who hasn't gotten really drunk and tried to have sex with their computer?

    *raises hand*

    I'd raise two, but my other is busy.

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  18. Re:Sigh, more Christian bashing. by Creedo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's no question in my mind that the point is just to poke more fun at religion, in this case, for no good reason at all.

    Poking fun at religion is a good reason in its own right. Mockery is the best response to silliness.

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  19. Re:Jehova witnesses by sumdumass · · Score: 3, Funny

    IT doesn't work that way in real life. I told a bunch of Jehova's witnesses that I was a Devil worshiper in order to get them to leave me along. This didn't work, they came back in larger numbers and prayed for my. they followed me to work and other stupid shit praying for me. My boss asked me what the hell was going on (as he was completely anoyed by this as was about to fire me), so I told them that after they knocked on my door about twenty times asking me if I head the good news, I told them I was a devil worshiper and told them to get off my property. We had to explain to their pastor that it was only a ploy to get them to leave me the fuck alone in order to get them to leave me the fuck alone.

    The cops wouldn't even stop them as they stayed mostly on the sidewalk and public right of way.

    I later found out that the easiest way to get rid of them is to simply say "I'm catholic" and then listen to a bunch of crap about Marry being a whore for a few minutes. But if you pretend to be a devil worshiper to get rid of them, it's likely to backfire on you.

  20. ...I see by Konster · · Score: 2, Funny

    I see the connection here!

  21. Re:Sigh, more Christian bashing. by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    explain that to the Evangelical Christians

    In Evangelical Russia, Christians explain to YOU!

    Actually, I have met a few (a handful) of real Christians in my life. They stood out because of their deeds, not their words, and never tried force their religion on me. One was an ear, nose and throat doctor, who closed his private practice for two weeks every year. Instead of spending the time on the golf course, he went to god-awful places on the planet, and did volunteer work for the World Health Organization.

    The Mormons who proselytize where I live tend to be very polite, well. They introduce themselves, tell you what they are doing, and when you say that you are not interested, they answer: "OK, thank you, and have a nice day."

    Now a question for our Brazilian folks: If I am approached by a Brazilian Evangelical Christian, can I hold up a USB stick with a trident to scare them away. Like a cross scares away vampires?

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  22. Re:Sad news for believers by couchslug · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "It is news like this that gives evangelical Christians a bad rep."

    Well that, and direct experience with them also helps. The US Rovian Religious Right are a MASSIVE collection of Evangelical Dominionists bent on turning the US into a theocracy.

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  23. Re:Sigh, more Christian bashing. by interval1066 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, symbols are powerful. I once bought a t-shirt with a sort logo-like cartoon of a baker man with the logo "Freshly Baked" underneath. The VERY NEXT DAY I was shooting heroin and selling my underage sister for drug money. The shirt was obviously the work of Satan and the reason I'm now posting on /. from underneath an overpass bridge in my underwear.

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  24. Re:who is the devil? by SETIGuy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Most of the Pantheon shows up in the devil. Don't forget Prometheus, the light bringer (aka Lucifer).

  25. Bluetooth is Pagan not USB by medv4380 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Measures were taken so that all the USB connections of his followers were exchanged for common connections and even the Bluetooth (sic), which according to Saldanha Welder is permitted, for "Blue was the color of the eyes of our savior Jesus Christ"

    Bluetooth is the one using a pagan blind rune as its symbol and they are all excited about using it. Come on, next thing you know you'll see christens celebrating pagan holidays.

  26. Re:who is the devil? by Obfuscant · · Score: 4, Funny
    And let's face it, who hasn't gotten really drunk and tried to have sex with their computer?

    Are YOU the reason they had to come up with the micro-USB connector, just so it would fit?

  27. More of [citation needed] on peace sign by billstewart · · Score: 2, Informative

    A few years ago was the 50th anniversary of the symbol, and the guy who designed it was being interviewed on BBC radio. He said that the John Birch Society tried to portray it as an anti-Christian symbol, but that was nonsense.

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  28. so what's the Christian cross? by t2t10 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Let's see: the symbol of Christianity is an ancient device of execution and torture.

    Seems to me it's pretty clear who is using "the devil's" symbology.

  29. Re:I thought that was firewire by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 2, Insightful

    /sarcasm Mod ignorance up. Only the non-religious are the true paragons of morality. /snicker
    (Stalin is quoted as saying "You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" in E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin, Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940)

    The atheists are just as ignorant of reality as the theists. At least the agnostic have the honesty to admit they DON'T KNOW, which is the first sign of TRUE knowledge. (Of course only the mystic sees the incompleteness in the other three, and laughs inwardly at the atheist blind man telling the other religious blind man that he can't see.)

    > really are just practicing magical thinking.
    Do Scientists have an answer for the "magical thinking" of the placebo effect yet?? I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss that thinking has no effect on changing reality when you don't a) understand what is thinking, thought or consciousness, and b) don't understand the true nature of reality.

    > religious leaders steal their money and abuse their children.
    Right! Let's toss the baby out with the bathwater! Simply because we have a few religious nuts who are too spiritually stupid to even understand what their religion is about. Every religion teaches the "Golden Rule." The fact that you have some stupid Catholic priests to stupid to even understand why Marriage is the foundation of the original Trinity relationship - father, mother, child - is completely irrelevent to your rant.

    How about we simply hold up common sense values regardless of what beliefs a person choses to practise??

    The bottom line, there are lot of good people, and lot of ignorant people, religious or not, theist or atheist.

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  30. Re:I thought that was firewire by shadowofwind · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Where did I suggest we shun anyone?

    Actually you suggested not letting religious leaders steal their money. The stealing that they're doing is pretty much just a matter of asking for offerings based on false doctrines. Stopping that implies a level of coercive control quite a bit beyond "shunning".

    Also, it may be reasonable for you to conjecture that other people's gods are unreal. However, since the idea of 'God' is largely an interpretation of internal experiences, and you don't have access to anyone's internal experience except your own, you're only guessing that other people's interpretations are delusional. That may be a reasonable guess, given the evidence you have. But its a guess, and there is a huge variety to human experience. Yours is actually a religious attitude, just an atheistic one, which is why ex-atheists like C. S. Lewis often make such marvelous religious crusaders.

  31. Re:Sigh, more Christian bashing. by CannonballHead · · Score: 3, Informative

    Even the original article refers to it as an "evangelical cult."

    Hey, I heard about this scientist who proves things using a "scientific method" but his method is logically faulty. But since he claims to be a scientist, and claims his method is the "scientific method," I guess it's true; therefore, I guess other scientists are the same way. After all, one scientist can't use the "not a true Scotsman" argument. If I claim to be a scientist, I am one!

    The funny thing is, I don't see who is claiming to be an "evangelical Christian." I see "evangelical cult" and "Christian homes," but "evangelical Christian" is NOT used in the original; that was apparently interpreted by the Guardian.

  32. Re:How many members in this cult? by iris-n · · Score: 5, Informative

    None. The cult does not exist. The entire story is a hoax; their only source is the brasilian blog "bobolhando" (rough translation: stupid staring), which is a literary blog who posts only fictional stories.

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  33. how about sata? by abednegoyulo · · Score: 2, Funny

    its only one letter away...

  34. Re:I thought that was firewire by walshy007 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The atheists are just as ignorant of reality as the theists. At least the agnostic have the honesty to admit they DON'T KNOW

    In practice the difference between atheists and agnostics are none, both conclude there is and can never be no credible evidence (how can you provide evidence of something you cannot define in clear non-supernatural terms, same reason you cannot provide proof that there is none) and so the assertion that there is a god is deemed false.

    Your mistake is that you think atheists declare there is proof there is no god, they never will, in essence agnostics are just 'politically correct' atheists.

    The rules of science and logic indicate that there must be some kind of basis (either in substance or in thought) for an assertion or else it must be denied. An assertion without evidence is not accepted as true, this is the default position. The position that defines what critical thought is. Critical thought is not believing things you are told unless there is evidence to back it up.

    Without critical thought logic and science are abandoned, and this is the only kind of productive thought humanity has ever come up with.

    Dealing with illogical people can be a serious pain at times, thusly why we try put some kind of reason into them.

    The only kind of theists I have respect for are the ones who recognize there can never be proof of their 'god' and that it is entirely based upon their own faith (faith being the belief in something without logic or evidence). People are entitled to believe whatever they want, but they should not make false claims.

  35. Re:How many members in this cult? by iris-n · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, no... Only the foreign media would make this misunderstanding. The blog is quite obviously humoristic, no one here in Brasil would believe them.

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  36. hoax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm brazillian. For those who did not read TFA - well... The original site linked by TFA only publish made up funny news.
    From the site:
    Um site chamado "Bobolhando", não deve ser levado à sério!

    Se copiar, credite, ok?
    subjective translation:
    A site named "Idiotting" should not be taken seriously!

  37. Re:Jehova witnesses by Techman83 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Answer the door naked, that usually works.

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  38. Re:I thought that was firewire by wall0159 · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's not an original argument, and it's common for believers to trot out the "atheists believe in no god, hence atheism is a religion" meme. It doesn't hold water because there are a plethora of gods that most people don't believe in (eg Thor, Neptune, etc) for the good reason that there's no evidence of their existence. Does that make them subscribers to the church of anti-Thor, or anti-Neptune, etc? Atheists believe that the lack of evidence for gods makes it reasonable to disbelieve, in the same way as most people would disbelieve in Burtrand Russel's teapot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot). If atheists are religious in their atheism, then all people are religious in their disbelief of the teapot, the FSM, Thor, .... Now, you may argue that one can have 'faith' in the absence of evidence. That's fine. But please don't argue that disbelieving in something because there is no evidence of its existence is an unreasonable position.

  39. Re:Sigh, more Christian bashing. by LordLimecat · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well, the issue is that noone aside from actual evangelical christians even seem to know what the word "evangelical" means anymore. Any time you see it in the media, it generally indicates something that is to be ridiculed.

    Nevermind that it IS a strictly christian word, and refers to the focus on the "evangel", that is the gospel of Jesus, and has absolutely nothing to do with any of the crazy stuff its been penned as as of late. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelicalism.

  40. Re:Sigh, more Christian bashing. by Creedo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sigh. The wrong one is marked as troll, and the wrong one as insightful. And your insightful comment stays at zero.

    I'm getting tired of slashdot - any good substitutes?

    Maybe it's because the rest of the world is getting increasingly tired of the rampant irrational stupidity that religion brings to the table, and we are more and more willing to mock those who keep pushing it. Religion in general is a childish and immature response to life, and I for one believe that it should be treated as such.

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  41. Re:Jehova witnesses by quacking+duck · · Score: 2, Funny

    A friend related an even better and faster way to get rid of them: next time they come a-knockin' be sure to greet them straight out of the shower, "accidentally" drop your towel when they start sermonizing you (bonus if they have one of their teen sons along, which they almost always do), then after quickly picking it up and covering yourself again, feign a sudden change of heart and earnestly ask when their next meeting is and you'd very much like to join them to talk more.

    The two JWs practically ran over each other to leave his property, and haven't been back since.

  42. Re: more Christian/Muslim/Judaism/etc bashing by ukemike · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Poking fun at religion is a good reason in its own right. Mockery is the best response to silliness.

    I would agree if religion were just silliness. It isn't. It is horribly damaging. The key teaching of religions is that believing in things that are provably false is a virtue. They call it faith. What's worse is that the more absurd a thing that you can believe in the more virtuous you are. A person who believes that the earth is literally about 7,000 years old has much stronger faith than a person who equivocates and says that Genesis is metaphorical. Faith is the one basic teaching that is at the root of so much suffering. It leads directly to fundamentalism. Fundamentalist Islam is the Taliban, and the intensely repressive regimes in Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc. Fundamentalist Judaism believes that despite being largely absent for a thousand or so years they have a right given them by some sky guy to possess to the exclusion of all others a bit of real estate at the East end of the Mediterranean Sea. Christian fundamentalists lead America into unwinnable wars that sap our spirits and drain our treasury. Fundamentalist personality cult is the twisted crap that has lead to decades of starvation and tyranny in North Korea.

    Please teach your children this: if you have seen it proven then believe it until you see it dis-proven. Be skeptical about everything else.

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  43. Re:Jehova witnesses by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, last time, they came to me on a Saturday morning, at about 9 am. I had been out drinking hard until something like 6 am. So, when they rang, I opened the door in my underpants, wild hair, red eyes, reeking of booze and ranted at them for 5 minutes for waking me up at such an UNHOLY hour. Haven't seen em since.

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  44. Re:Jehova witnesses by sa1lnr · · Score: 2, Funny

    IT doesn't work that way in real life. I told a bunch of Jehova's witnesses that I was a Devil worshiper in order to get them to leave me along. This didn't work,

    Blood and organ donor stickers on the front/street door work wonders here in the UK. ;)

  45. Re:Jehova witnesses by Abstrackt · · Score: 2, Funny

    My solution was to try selling them porn. It works for pretty much any unsolicited visitors but if you have a roommate who's capable of trying to sell gay porn with a straight face it works even better. As a bonus, it provides an excuse to keep a couple of dirty magazines laying around.

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  46. Re:Jehova witnesses by Mal-2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I got a visit from them at a similar time (~9 am on a Saturday) but it was a family of four -- father in the lead, wife, son, and daughter standing behind. I answered the door and he asked if they could come in and speak to me. I said "No... but the girl can stay." That got rid of them pretty quickly.

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