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A Single Re-Tweet Lands Chinese Woman in Labor Camp

lee1 writes "A woman in China has been sentenced to a year of 're-education' in a labor camp for the crime of 'disrupting social order' after retweeting a joke on Twitter (which is entirely banned in China, but popular nonetheless). Cheng Jianping had repeated a Twitter comment suggesting that nationalist protesters smash Japan's pavilion at the Shanghai Expo, adding the words 'Charge, angry youth.' At the time, China and Japan were feuding over a group of uninhabited islands in the East China Sea, and groups of young Chinese had been demonstrating against Japan, smashing Japanese products; the tweet amounted to gentle chiding of the protesters. Ms. Cheng may also have been targeted because she is a human rights activist: she had signed petitions calling for the release of China's jailed Nobel Peace Prize winner Liu Xiaobo. She has been detained in the past for several other 'crimes,' including criticizing China's Communist Party."

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  1. Should apply to anyone using Twitter by PatPending · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anyone using Twitter should be sentenced to a year of 're-education' in a labour camp.

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    1. Re:Should apply to anyone using Twitter by PatPending · · Score: 3, Funny

      You definitely need re-education, specifically regarding sarcasm.

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    2. Re:Should apply to anyone using Twitter by tehcyder · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just because someone doesn't follow every passing social networking fad doesn't make them a luddite, you appalling little tick.

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  2. Public service annoucement by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you are a political activist in any country (not just China), don't post things publicly that are unrelated to your cause. Don't post things electronically that are or could be considered illegal, or be used as blackmail material. Remember that you are not representing yourself anymore, you are representing your cause. Everything you say and do will be put under a microscope, and the internet never forgets and never forgives mistakes.

    Now that that's out of the way: China, you suck.

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    1. Re:Public service annoucement by girlintraining · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So you feel that political activism and a personal online life are mutually exclusive?

      Yes, actually.

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    2. Re:Public service annoucement by icebraining · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In a dictatorship, anything can be illegal at the whims of those who rule.

  3. Re:hate speech is NOT protected anywhere. by Ossifer · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, she was imprisoned for making fun of the people actually causing racial unrest...

  4. awaiting the equivalency idiots by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Insightful

    you know, the snide comments "well, its almost just as bad/ the same/ worse in the usa/ uk/ western nation"

    no

    it actually isn't

    when you confuse hyperbole and reality, you are no longer commenting intelligently, you are merely broadcasting your ignorance

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    1. Re:awaiting the equivalency idiots by King_TJ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Except, I don't think most of the people making such statements are *really* idiots who don't get the obvious differences. I think (well, hope at least!) it's a matter of trying to caution/wake up people that nations like the United States are headed down a path that leads there, ultimately, if we don't stop and look at where we're going!

      Just this morning, I heard a couple of radio DJs doing their show, and despite their repeated insistence on taking a "libertarian outlook on things" in the past? These guys were obviously defending the full body scanners and pat-down searches at our airports! Their opinion, basically, was one of, "Come on! Someone having a grainy picture of your genitals is no big deal! I'd rather they see that than someone getting a bomb on my airline flight!", coupled with, "Like the TSA says... If you don't like it, just don't fly!"

      That mentality is EXACTLY what gets us ever closer to Chinese style government and censorship, people!

    2. Re:awaiting the equivalency idiots by Anonymusing · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sir (or ma'am), I truly wish I had mod points.

      In America, you can say whatever the hell you want about the government -- even if it is slanderous, false, crazy, whatever -- and unless you are directly threatening to kill somebody, you can get away with it. That is NOTHING like a totalitarian government. If the Obama administration was really like China, Fox News would have been squashed a long time ago, and media types like Beck and Limbaugh would be quickly losing weight in a rock quarry somewhere.

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    3. Re:awaiting the equivalency idiots by tekrat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      EXACTLY!!! How is that American citizens can be treated with less regard than a captured member of the Taliban? How is it that a sexual assault is now necessary and endorsed in order to board a plane? And just try boarding a plane without the sexual assault and you're likely to be shot at, imprisoned, put on a no-fly list, and your life will be essentially ruined by the government, forever, all because you're trying to retain your rights and dignity.

      And people want to talk about how bad China is because it makes them feel superior and that they somehow have it better here. Well, in many cases you do not. Elsewhere, you're likely to recieve better healthcare, you're likely to recieve a better education and you're likely to live in country with more equal footing between you and your boss.

      And the country won't be entirely run by corporations focused only on greed. Please, tell me how much better off you are here in the Paranoid USA.

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    4. Re:awaiting the equivalency idiots by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Look at the Wiki:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Prisoner_population_rate_UN_HDR_2007_2008.PNG

      The U.S. just has a different spin on "freedom". Did you catch the video of the TSA assaulting the 3-year-old and the father standing helplessly while it happened for fear of being arrested? Do you suppose in China they watch videos of Americans being waterboarded, or stories about U.K. police gunning innocent people down in the subway?

      There's no shortage of ugly propaganda on both sides. Don't think China is so bad, and don't think the U.S. is so good. It's all somewhere in the middle, on both sides.

    5. Re:awaiting the equivalency idiots by girlintraining · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It is just as bad, it's just not the same kind of bad. China is very public about their activities, whereas western nations prefer smear campaigns, false charges, and complex bureaucratic procedures to blunt the minds of their critics and dampen or perhaps entirely dissipate, protest of its policies. Just because China does in public what other countries do in private does not make the other countries worse.

      The United States has the highest per capita imprisonment rate of any first world country, and a larger execution rate than China despite having a far lower population.

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  5. {Yawn} by Chordonblue · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who cares about the human cost as long as we can continue to get cheap electronics, right?

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  6. Re:hate speech is NOT protected anywhere. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, the KKK were arrested for ACTING upon incitement toward violence.
    The KKK are allowed to march and yell in public, openly, as is any group like that, so long as they obtain
    a parade permit, WHICH THEY CAN, in the US.

    But if you break the law, like, oh, I dunno, KILL PEOPLE, commit arson, violate labor laws, intimidate employers...
    such as what got the Klansmen in question in the parent post put in prison...
    in China, you'd be the government. In the US, you're arrested.

  7. China is the abusive boyfriend of the G8+5. by Aussenseiter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its populace is in a frightening situation, where speaking out against the regime is often a criminal activity. Its economy feeds off itself and other countries, and is reflected strongly to foreign markets, but the smoke-and-mirrors reality draws many comparisons to Cold War Russia, specifically its unsustainable growth and complete disregard for things like environment and human safety. Its foreign policy is bullheaded and unrepentant - and they get away with it, because the rest of the world admonishes it with one hand and spoon-feeds it with the other.

  8. Re:We in the West are so much more... oh wait by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its one thing to post a joke bomb threat and have the cops show up. Possibly give you some misdemeanor.

    Its another thing to post a joke and have the cops pick you up and put you in a labour camp.

  9. Re:hate speech is NOT protected anywhere. by NiteShaed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the KKK were arrested/imprisoned in the US. why didnt anyone whine about that ?

    Possibly because it didn't happen? Klan members were arrested and imprisoned for crimes they commited (murder among them), but they still exist today and hold public rallies and events without being imprisoned for speaking.
    You seem to be confusing hate-speech with hate-crimes. Going up on a stage and saying that "group X is a bunch of subhuman degenerates" is certainly hateful, but you have the right to do it. Going on stage and saying "group X is a bunch of subhuman degenerates" while beating a member of group-X with a club is a hate crime, and will carry different penalties than just beating someone with a club would normally.

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  10. Still better than... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/11/18/pakistan.blasphemy/index.html?hpt=C1

    "This month a Pakistani court sentenced Isham's mother, 45 year old Asia Bibi, to death, not because killed, injured or stole, but simply because she said something."

    "The town cleric, Qari Muhammad Salim, reported the incident to police who arrested Bibi. After nearly 15 months in prison came her conviction and the death sentence."

    USA's best friends, China and Pakistan. Awesome.

  11. Re:Athletes get fined for things like this by Mikkeles · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's a difference in degree, not kind; not a fundamental difference, but surely much less unpleasant to undergo.

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  12. Remember to put "Twitter" in every headline by Minwee · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because "Being an anti-government activist lands Chinese woman in labour camp" isn't nearly exciting enough.

  13. But by Korveck · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If the government don't lock up disruptive individuals who cause public unrest. The harmony in the country will be gone, and the whole economy will tank. Personal freedom is a small price to pay for a thriving economy. Look at the US and Europe now. Their freedom of expression mires them in endless internal silly arguments while not solving any pressing problem.

    This is actually a popular view in China and the party actively promotes it. Our increasingly frustrating politics make it more and more believable.

  14. Re:asdf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Soon America will be like this, if we don't start electing politicians who remove, rather than add laws.

  15. Are you advocating something or just whining? by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I get a little tired of the bitching about China's human rights problems not because they aren't problems, but because people seem to just like to bitch rather than suggest what might be done. See the US can't just make China play nice and respect human rights that movie about Team America: World Police was a comedy/satire, not a documentary, if the puppets didn't give that away. The US can't just police China.

    Now, the US could of course do things like refuse to trade or embargo China. Ok, ignoring any consequences to the US itself, what makes you think that would work? What evidence is there that wold do any good? It has been tried time and time again and never seems to improve conditions in countries, only make them worse. That isn't to say it cannot be a useful tool for security related issues, but it doesn't seem to do anything good human rights related.

    In fact a rather strong argument can be made that the only way China will get better at human rights is if their own citizens demand it. They will have to force the change internally. Like with most things in human nature, people have to want to change before you can help them change. You can then also argue the best thing that the US can do for that is to keep as much free and open trade as possible. With free trade comes free information. though the Central Committee might not like it, they can't just cut off the flow of information, it would hurt business.

    Free trade with China is producing dramatic increases in the standard of living for many people, and has actually improved the human rights situation from what it was. It is far, FAR from good but it is a hell of a lot better than when the great leap "forward" happened.

    There's a strong argument that the best thing we can do is just to trade freely and make all our information and culture available. If you've a different suggestion then let's hear it as well as the defense for it, but please less with the hand-wringing.

  16. Re:hate speech is NOT protected anywhere. by interval1066 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    She was imprisoned because she is a human rights activist, the joke regarding the anti-Japan demonstrators was only a pretense. The PSC (the Politburo; the Standing Committee of the Communist Party) couldn't care less about a joke that makes fun of people they hate anyway.

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  17. Re:Athletes get fined for things like this by Relyx · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...plus a criminal record and a £3000 legal bill when he lost his appeal.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-11736785

  18. Re:asdf by Paracelcus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Every time you elect a lawyer to elective office you are guaranteed that you will get a flood of redundant, contradictory, unenforceable & expensive laws, thereby ensuring the perpetual employment of their colleagues who are paid handsomely to unravel, defend against & prosecute this utterly pointless bullshit!

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  19. Re:asdf by s4ltyd0g · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How is this modified as a troll? This is the writing on the wall and it will be too late to be disappointed once it has come to pass.

  20. Re:Kudos for unbiased reporting by pspahn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm conservative, and I'm not scared of China's threat to our security. I'm also disgusted by their human rights track record. Not everyone falls neatly into one corner of the Nolan Chart.

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  21. Re:Athletes get fined for things like this by pspahn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That has what to do with the U.S. government now?

    It's stupid?

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  22. Re:Kudos for unbiased reporting by Columcille · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Who says this is a left-leaning website?"

    This is a left-leaning website.

    There. I said it.

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  23. Re:hate speech is NOT protected anywhere. by NiteShaed · · Score: 4, Funny

    We probably need a whole new rating system.

    Beating someone while shouting racial slurs at them: +10 years

    Beating someone while staring into the distance trying to remember if you left the oven on: +0 years

    Beating someone while shouting "I love you man!" at them: Actually, that's creepy. +12 years

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  24. Re:Kudos for unbiased reporting by rjstanford · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, that would be \. This is /. - obviously right-leaning.

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