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Making Airport Scanners Less Objectionable

Hugh Pickens writes "The Washington Post reports that one of the researchers who helped develop the software for the scanners says there is a simple fix that would make scanning less objectionable. The fix would distort the images captured on full-body scanners so they look like reflections in a fun-house mirror, but any potentially dangerous objects would be clearly revealed, says Willard 'Bill' Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at the Livermore lab. 'Why not just distort the image into something grotesque so that there isn't anything titillating or exciting about it?' asks Wattenburg, adding that the modification is so simple that 'a 6-year-old could do the same thing with Photoshop... It's probably a few weeks' modification of the program.' Wattenburg said he was rebuffed when he offered the concept to Department of Homeland Security officials four years ago. A TSA official said the agency is working on development of scanner technology that would reduce the image to a 'generic icon, a generic stick figure' that would still reveal potentially dangerous items." Reader FleaPlus points out an unintended consequence: some transportation economists believe that the TSA's new invasive techniques may lead to more deaths as more people use road transportation to avoid flying — much more dangerous by the mile than air travel.

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  1. TSA won't use it. by AnonymousClown · · Score: 4, Informative

    As we can see here, the TSA doesn't like even blurry crotches. All that stuff we heard about "blurring the private areas" was a lie by the TSA and John Pistole because here we have someone who had to get patted down anyway because of a blurred crotch.

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  2. Doesn't fix the Radiation problem by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Informative

    "A group of scientists at the University of California, San Francisco (UCSF) raised concerns about the 'potential serious health risks' from the scanners in a letter sent to the White House Office of Science and Technology in April... 'While the dose would be safe if it were distributed throughout the volume of the entire body, the dose to the skin may be dangerously high,' they wrote."

    Continued - http://www.prisonplanet.com/naked-body-scanners-may-be-dangerous-scientists.html

    Updated - http://www.physorg.com/news/2010-11-naked-scanners-airports-dangerous-scientists.html

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  3. America is suppose to be a free country by Dan667 · · Score: 4, Informative

    there is absolutely no need for prison security in the airport for regular people just trying to travel. It is a just a big scam by Michael Chertoff and Rapiscan Systems to sell naked scanners to the tsa for billions in profits. I bet if they were not allowed to make any money they would no longer be pushing their use.

  4. Stick Figures? by digitaldc · · Score: 3, Informative

    First of all, the presentation of that article on WashingtonPost.com was 4 pages of absolute horror.
    Second, I heard this stick figure display was already being done in Europe, but it still doesn't make me feel safer or less worried about anything.

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  5. Re:Deadlier than the terrorists by jestill · · Score: 3, Informative

    I would think that the cosmic radiation dose you get on the airplane is much more deadly than even that.

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  6. Re:Rule 34? by nloop · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sorry, but there is an xkcd about rule 34. He is officially legit on this one.

    http://xkcd.com/305/

  7. Re:Rule 34? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Informative

    But if they don't inconvenience people enough, they won't feel properly protected. An airline suicide hijacking is something that gets on TV, so people will be far more afraid of that than they would be of a more realistic danger.

  8. Re:Israel by Sowelu · · Score: 4, Informative

    The reason the US doesn't have a system like Israel's is that most flights in the US are domestic.

  9. Re:Great...now just one more issue.... by commodore64_love · · Score: 3, Informative

    I used to think the same, until I found-out that scientists are warning these machines can cause skin cancer. See my message further below.

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  10. Re:Deadlier than the terrorists by robot256 · · Score: 3, Informative
    According to the EPA:

    For a typical cross-country flight in a commercial airplane, you are likely to receive 2 to 5 millirem (mrem) of radiation, less than half the radiation dose you receive from a chest x-ray.

    So you may be right about that. However, the observation posted by commodore64_love above about the concentration of the scanner dose in the skin does alter the picture a little.

  11. Re:This misses the point by blueg3 · · Score: 3, Informative

    First (and least important), if you can distort the images, you can undistort them.

    That's only true if the distortion is reversible and doesn't result in the loss of information. Distortions that result in information loss can't be un-distorted.

  12. Re:Great...now just one more issue.... by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Informative

    I mentioned this on the last TSA thread, but it bears repeating: In fact, campaign contributions were unnecessary for this, because the DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff who started this move had significant investments manufacturer of the naked-scan machines.

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  13. Re:Great...now just one more issue.... by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yep profiling seems to work for the Israelis.

    Profiling, how the Israelis do it, isn't what Americans consider profiling. Americans consider it "oh, he's Middle-Eastern looking, search him." What I've read is that Israeli profiling is "talk for a few minutes with a highly trained expert, who uses your reactions to profile you." I would probably work, but would also involve replacing a lot of $8/hr TSA grunts with $?/hr TSA interviewers.

    Or eliminate the search completely (other than the standard Xraying of suitcases)

    And the standard magnetic scan. That can catch a lot and isn't invasive.

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  14. Re:Great...now just one more issue.... by protektor · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually your odds are a bit high. The Wall Street Journal says:

    The odds of dying in a terrorist attack on a plane in a given year are 1 in 25,000,000.
    The odds of a Westerner being killed by a terrorist in a given year are 1 in 3,000,000.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703481004574646963713065116.html

    The NTSB says the odd for car accidents are:
    The odds of dying in a car accident in a given year are 1 in 18,585.
    The odds of simply being in a car accident in a given year are 1 in 5,889.
    http://www.ntsb.gov/

  15. Re:Great...now just one more issue.... by wvmarle · · Score: 4, Informative

    In Schiphol, Amsterdam airport, the final screening (metal detector etc) was done at the gate. That airport has a shared area for both incoming and outgoing passengers. So also transit passengers.

    Having airliners themselves do the screening becomes fairly easy to organise with such a layout.

  16. Re:Great...now just one more issue.... by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Informative

    The radiation produced by the scanners is non-ionizing. RF is non-ionizing. It's not an X-ray, or an MRI, or a CT, all of which use ionizing radiation. So you lose points for that one.

    Wrong on multiple counts:

    1. The Rapiscan machines are backscatter X-ray machines, which by definition produce ionizing radiation. The millimeter wave machines do not. So when you go into these things, you have about a 50/50 chance of getting a dose of ionizing radiation, depending on which of the two manufacturers built the box.
    2. MRI machines do not use ionizing radiation.

    Please take the time to learn about the technology before attempting to lecture people about how it works.

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  17. Re:Deadlier than the terrorists by dgatwood · · Score: 3, Informative

    Okay, here's a relatively recent citation to get you started:

    [Cumulative Radiation Exposure Shows Increased Cancer Risk For Emergency Department Patients]

    That said, it has been common knowledge in medical and scientific circles for decades, so it really doesn't need a citation.

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  18. Re:Oh sure.... by Dan667 · · Score: 3, Informative

    the police have to have probable cause to do a pat down. That is the difference. Innocent before guilty remember?

  19. Re:Great...now just one more issue.... by Wonko+the+Sane · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm actually somewhat surprised that no terrorists have tried this.

    The reason you are surprised is that terrorists are far more rare than you've been lead to believe.

    Of course the government is doing its very best to manufacture domestic terrorists so at some point you must assume that they will be successful.

  20. Re:Great...now just one more issue.... by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 4, Informative

    The only possible reason you've heard

    absolutely no science to back that statement up.

    is either because you are deaf, dumb, or lazy. The research is pretty clear. Flying causes skin cancer, but has little to no effect on the incidence of other kinds of cancer. Thirty seconds of google-fu brings up:

    http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/about-cancer/cancer-questions/airline-staff-and-cancer

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC124549/

    http://oem.bmj.com/content/57/3/175.abstract