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Once-Secret ACTA Copyright Treaty Approved By EU

itwbennett writes "By a vote of 331 to 294, the EU Parliament has approved the controversial and once-secret Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA). According to an ITworld article, 'the most controversial paragraph in the final text leaves the door open for countries to introduce the so-called three-strikes rule. This would cut Internet users off if they download copyright material as national authorities would be able to order ISPs to disclose personal information about customers.... The proposed agreement would also place sanctions against any device or software that is marketed as a means of circumventing access controls such as encryption or scrambling that are designed to prevent copying. It also requires legal measures against knowingly using such technology.'"

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  1. Cool! by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Awesome! This just means higher adoption of encryption and more bodies on darknets!

    Works for me, and, I suspect, most others here too.

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    1. Re:Cool! by asvravi · · Score: 5, Funny

      Strike one.

    2. Re:Cool! by tenchikaibyaku · · Score: 5, Informative
      Although I hold no real hope that ACTA will be shot down, the summary is - as far as I can see - at best misleading.
      Quoting from Christian Engstroms blog:

      This was a defeat, but it is far from the final word on the issue. The resolution has no formal effect at all, but is merely an expression of how the Parliament feels.

    3. Re:Cool! by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Awesome! This just means higher adoption of encryption and more bodies on darknets!

      The problem is you can't hide the data. The bit is either there, or it isn't. It's on or it's not. All you can do is apply statistical and mathematical formula and methods to the data in an attempt to obscure or distort the information to the point that it is no longer useful to anyone other than the intended recipient(s). And almost every method we have of creating plausible deniability is being hunted down by governments around the world. If they want it to stop, they just pass a law saying "If you can't give us the keys, methods, etc., used to mask, alter, obscure, etc., your data, we can simply throw you in jail."

      In other words, the mere act of creating privacy between two entities will itself become a crime. That is the next step after ACTA. And it's already being planned.

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    4. Re:Cool! by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I wish that it was more like Golf.

      Then if I didn't like that download I could call it a Mulligan, and if the ISP tells me I've got a Bogey all I have to do is get a Birdie next month and I'll make Par.

      Then the Legalese can get extra convoluted.

    5. Re:Cool! by emkyooess · · Score: 4, Informative

      Planned? Hasn't it happened in the UK?

    6. Re:Cool! by Leynos · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Trouble is, that's a lot of pictures you're going to have to send to embed a useful payload. Maybe you could set up something like a 1080p webcam looking out of your window so you have a constant stream of plausible signal in which to hide your "noise."

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    7. Re:Cool! by julioody · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "Gee, this guy is using encryption. We'll have to leave him alone then".

      Or

      "He's using encryption, so he must be a terrorist. Ship him to Gitmo".

      Pick the one you think it's more likely.

    8. Re:Cool! by nurb432 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And if you even do a search for such tools, it will attract the black van since you know only criminals....

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    9. Re:Cool! by Delkster · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sometimes it feels like there are approximately two people in the world who understand the political structure of the EU, so it's not particularly surprising that a random Slashdot staffer isn't one of them.

      Neither am I, really.

  2. It's time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... to go kill some lobbyists.

  3. Re:So when are they coming for us? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They won't. They'll nab you for child pornography that appears on your desk an hour before the dawn raid.

  4. background and swpats by ciaran_o_riordan · · Score: 4, Informative

    Background info:

    http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement_overview

    On the software patent problems (or patents "in the Digital Environment"), it seems most or maybe all have been fixed (provided the the signatory uses the Section II option of excluding patents from that section) but a thorough reading is still needed:

    http://en.swpat.org/wiki/ACTA_and_software_patents

  5. Once again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A government demonstrates that it puts the interests of the rich above the interests of the many, even when the results mean plenty of injustice for the many.

    Humans are not competent to govern themselves on a national level.

    1. Re:Once again by celle · · Score: 3, Funny

      "...injustice for the many."

      The many just have to borrow a couple of guillotines(per country) from France and use them during the half-time of national football games(soccer/american). The rich/manipulative, as the cause of this shit and therefore initially responsible, go first. The politicians who are also responsible for not listening to the many will switch quick once they realize they're next. Ah hell, both at the same time with twice the fun in half the time. Once the body politic is directly held accountable for its behavior this shit goes away. You want to hold the big seat, pay the big price.

      Problem fixed.

      "Humans are not competent to govern themselves on a national level."

      We've done it a hell of a lot longer than you now buzz off skynet!

    2. Re:Once again by hairyfeet · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually I'd say the way us tech nerds can "win" is by using that most glorious and powerful of weapons...propaganda. Just look at how a single attack ad (Willie Horton) could change the way a presidential election was flowing. Now imagine if we geeks here on /. cooked up snarky and funny but biting ads showing how big business is stealing from ALL of us with 150+ year copyrights and ACTA style bullshit, and then plastered them all over Youtube? And if each video had a link to a nicely done website where the populace could let their elected officials know in NO uncertain terms they WILL be voted out if they don't listen?

      The future won't be decided with a gun, but with a videocam. The winning of hearts and minds by using the massive power of propaganda against the very ones that currently wield it against us. THAT is how you can change things now, not writing some OS that 90%+ won't use because it won't play their game o' the week.

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  6. Re:I'm torn on this by alexborges · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Whats "material" cost of music? Most of the cost comes from a distribution method that has been obsoleted in the digital age. This law only tries to impose limitations on a better and less costly way to get digital "wares", to save the ass of a distribution bussiness that is simply not needed anymore: music labels, cable companies, tv channels.

    We should have ONE link, the internet, and content providers, both independent and from label and shit, competing together: THATS HOW CAPITALISM WORKS.

    Protecting unnecesary monopolies with law is both plain stupid and a plain robbery from the people. We are supposed to do "as if", the internet wasnt there with regards to digitalizable content. But it is there. And digital content can travel through the net. That is "bad" for the distribution monopoly and they thus bought politicians to FUCK US ALL IN ALL OF THE WORLD.

    THAT SUCKS.

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  7. Re:Banning FOSS? Can't happen soon enough by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes, yes, I know it was really "linux distros and public domain music/movies" you were torrenting not the latest Hollywood movie and Miley Cyrus CD *wink* *wink*

    I am 105% certain that when I pipe the latest Debian DVD into my sound card, it will sound much better than the latest Miley Cyrus CD.

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  8. Re:A law that has been passed... by Nadaka · · Score: 4, Informative

    They still riot in the streets against perceived injustice in Europe.

  9. Re:I'm torn on this by king+neckbeard · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Those kids could, you know, just not have a copy of the music. I don't know where this divine right to have stuff comes from.

    Stopping someone from doing something that doesn't affect others is generally what needs a justification. The scarcity is what we are creating, so that is what needs something to back it up.

    Because, absent artificial scarcity, how else can an author or programmer make money?

    Several viable methods are available for authors to get money, and many would do things for the love of doing them, for fame, or because it enables other revenue streams. We had books and music before the Statute of Anne, after all.

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  10. Re:Banning FOSS? Can't happen soon enough by king+neckbeard · · Score: 3, Funny

    A fan of datacore, are we?

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  11. Re:Old school? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "I guess the key difference there is that you are going to start buying."

    Good luck with that. Until my country's copyright law will be amended, I am still entitled to make copies of whatever non-DRM'd copyrighted work I want for my sole personal use. Not even ACTA changes anything about that - I would simply face harsher punishments for things I am already *not* allowed to do.

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  12. Re:Was voting anonymous? by king+neckbeard · · Score: 4, Informative
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  13. Re:So when are they coming for us? by Alain+Williams · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They won't. They'll nab you for child pornography that appears on your desk an hour after the dawn raid.

    There: fixed that for you.

  14. Re:Been there already by blair1q · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No it didn't.

    The church built its learning institutions on the model of others, and there were secular learning institutions alongside them.

    The church is in conflict with the forces of reality. It has a long history of oppressing the free spread of knowledge, and of couching its tyrannies in the language of benevolence. And of coopting institutions and traditions and pretending they were the province of their religion all along. It's only typical that they would pretend to have invented higher education, and would call it open and free exchange of ideas.

  15. Re:Was voting anonymous? by Carewolf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is apparently a vote to ask the commission to clarify the consequences of the treaty. This is EU diplomatic talk for a vote to reject it. With this vote rejected, the treaty was not blocked or questioned by the EU parliament. It is the among Nay votes you have to look for your traitors. (this had me confused for some time too)

  16. Make it like a movie preview... by Zancarius · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The future won't be decided with a gun, but with a videocam. The winning of hearts and minds by using the massive power of propaganda against the very ones that currently wield it against us. THAT is how you can change things now, not writing some OS that 90%+ won't use because it won't play their game o' the week.

    That's actually a brilliant idea. It's a shame we couldn't get some independent director and/or studio to shoot a brief commercial and then pool resources together to show it during prime time television (since most of the population isn't aware of anything unless they're fed the information via TV--sadly). Better yet, make it look like a movie preview with a dark overture of sorts, including the same baritone narration style common to previews. I'd imagine it could start off something like this:

    [Camera pans through a dark office complex or government building with people in suits walking passed. Perhaps a gray haired actor playing the part of a high powered government official could be seen shaking hands with a corporate CEO of sorts.]

    Narrator: Drafted in the darkest bowels of the US federal government lurks a treaty...

    [Scene shifts to a young 13-14 year old boy basking in the soft glow of his monitor.]
    Boy [sounding panicked]: Oh... no...
    [The breaking of glass can be heard in the background as his mother screams. Trampling boots thunder through the house before the door to his room is broken down and armed agents grab the child, dragging him away.]

    Narrator: ...that threatens the very essence of our freedoms.

    [Scene shifts to a group of scruffy and clearly homeless individuals gathered around a burning barrel sharing stories.]

    Bearded homeless man 1: I remember back when I used to be able to buy anything I wanted on the Internet.
    Homeless man 2: Yeah, then they took it all away from us for sharing music. Now, we can't even buy groceries. Ol' Jack over here was forced to give up a kidney for sharing a movie, weren't you Jack?
    *laughter*
    Homeless woman 1: Oh yeah? They took everything away from me just for feeling up a TSA agent.
    *more laughter*

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    (Okay, that last part was stretching it a bit.)

    Anyway, you see where this is going--and maybe it's even a little overboard. Regardless, I think your idea is excellent! It needs to be professionally produced, written, and directed in order to capture the attention of the average viewer. Then it needs to be posted to Youtube.

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