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CA Sues Over DB2 Migration Tool
aesoteric writes "Software giant CA has filed suit against an Australian software developer over a program that allegedly enabled companies to migrate off CA database platforms onto IBM DB2. It claimed the software 'reproduced' portions of confidential source and object codes without permission and deprived CA of license fees. CA also disputed claims that its database platform was 'dying.'"
This reeks of desperation...
...or are they just undead?
There was always an unsavoury whiff from their stuff.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
So the article itself is /.'ed, but using Google, I can't seem to figure out what database CA has that everyone is theoretically migrating off of. I knew CA had a lot of products, mostly related to the mainframe, but an actual honest-to-goodness "select * from table" database? News to me.
So now we have lock-in as a respected business practice? What is next? Making it illegal for your users to even look at products of your competitors?
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
MS files suit to halt distribution of Windows Phone 7 cracking software distrributed by xda-developers.com. Get 'em while you can or, well, okay, who'll notice.
... is that almost all of these big software companies step on each others toes in the pursuit of profits and market share, and probably all infringe on each patents at some level or other.
If the weight of these patents were different (as in, if the patent system wasn't out of touch with modern applications of software and technology), they wouldn't have so much leverage over each other, and maybe we could get back to innovating instead of litigating.
Boo hoo CA, I have no sympathy what so ever. Perhaps develop a modern replacement and stop punishing your customers because your db products are comparable with a 1970s bus.
Those who can, do. Those who cannot, sue.
That CA has a database platform, or that somebody ACTUALLY BOUGHT IT, requiring a tool to migrate their data off.
This has been a cornerstone of CA strategy for decades, nothing new here. Makes for a predictable renewal revenue stream.
I hate being bipolar; it's awesome!
Databases aren't exactly my thing, but if I was looking in to a database solution, I don't think CA is someone who would come to mind.
Yeah, I had a sig once; I got bored of it.
They're still around? The first company I worked for in the 80's was a HUGE Clipper shop. There were C Libraries to read DBase III libraries back then, it was a pretty simple format, really. Not that it was really ever all that difficult to write a DBase III program to dump the entire database comma separated. I often wish Linux and GTK had been about 10 years more advanced back then. I wouldn't have had to get involved with SCO at all, and we could have written some MUCH cooler applications. Not to mention that using a database like MySQL or Postgres would have made our applications far more robust than Clipper ever could have been!
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
"There was always an unsavoury whiff from their stuff." - by AliasMarlowe (1042386) on Friday November 26, @09:47AM (#34349872)
CA's disreputable - See their "ethics" in accounting practices which they got busted for:
PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:
"Customers know Computer Associates - and, these days, for all the wrong reasons. Just as the company was beginning to shed its reputation as a home for legacy software products that carried an inflated price tag, it was rocked by a series of accounting scandals. An on-going FBI fraud inquiry and investigations by the US Department of Justice and the Securities and Exchange Commission have left it reeling, with a power vacuum at the top as over a dozen senior executives have left or been sacked. The allegations centre on internal accounting and sales activities in the years around the turn of the century, and involve the movement of revenues between quarters and product areas, and consequently, the mis-statement of financial results."
FROM -> http://www.information-age.com/articles/290656/the-information-age-interview.thtml
APK
P.S.=> CA also listed a freeware of mine as a "malware" which was written to help out a fellow forums person I knew at NTCompatible years ago, because he had an OLD version of Apache server on Windows which would not run as a tooltray icon while minimized & it was not implemented as a service he told me (that was so it was not visible onscreen and ran "in the background transparently" which most webservers now, do).
So, in good faith/being a "good neighbor", I wrote it up for he (it's NOT commandline argv/argc parameterizeable either, so it's NOT scriptable) in GUI form (only 2-3 lines of code & works via C/C++ type invisible "spawn" type parameterizations).
Next thing I know? It's out online being classed as a "malware" (1 of around 40 freeware apps I've done over time that did VERY well & were featured in respected publications in good reviews in reputable & respected publications like "Windows IT Pro" Magazine (it was Windows NT Mag back then in the 1990's - early 21st century) & others of like ilk).
Apps that can be used "both ways" get 'victimized' this way (which is like PING via "ping of death", or tools from NIRSOFT (good stuff) &/or SysInternals even (yes, even Dr. Mark Russinovich has had this happen to he (e.g. pstools) as it has myself & Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT) have tools that can be used "for the good" or "the bad", depending on WHO is using them & what they're up to (like a gun, guns don't murder people - other people do).
So, then I took CA's 21 point removal test & passed EVERY SINGLE QUESTION without fail no less, & they would not remove it (but, they had to put it down to "Zero Threat Levels")... I did that on the advice of an attorney (John Lowe of Hiscock & Barclay).
Afterwards when I told the attorney these results, he told me "Yes, you have a WINNING CASE for libel/defamation of character" etc. "and it's worth approx. $150,000 U.S. Dollars", so I said "Well, let's do it then on a 33.3% of the take for you as payment" (keeps attorneys 'motivated' doing it that way, plus, it's no init. money down for retainers etc./et al).
Then, he replied "I can't do this case!" I was like "WHY?!?" & he said "Because larger companies have fleets of attorneys that will 'drag it out' for over a decade and by the time you collect, which you would? The overall COST of doing this would exceed your reward!"...
This is how the REAL world works, if you're not a "Financial Goliath" in other words - there is NO "justice", only money (and if you've got enough to take on the likes of these companies, then, & ONLY THEN, do you get real justice)... makes me ill, because the likes of CA know this, & abuse it! apk
I assume CA's database is some mainframe beast. Since DB2 also runs on the mainframe and is almost certainly a more modern database, I can see why customers would switch - especially given CA's "think of a number, add the salesman's telephone number and double it" approach to license costs.
Mainframe "databases" can be funny beasts. I worked on an app that used one about 15 years ago, and the database was effectively flat files, index files and an engine on top to hang it all together and make it look like a RDBMS - pretty much the MySQL approach when you use ISAM as the storage backend. I can't recall the name but it's probably owned by CA now - they seem to buy up a lot of smaller players in the mainframe world.
Sigs are so 1990s. No way would I be seen dead with one.
Not widely used, but it's been around for a while.
Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is the headlight of an oncoming train.
Quick, somebody get confirmation from Netcraft.
From the ca site (http://www.ca.com/us/products/overview.aspx?id={40FB2A1D-9B09-429E-9D52-123477B87E97}):
It is a high-performance, multi-user relational database management system based on z/OS and VSE host platforms.
Unfortunately, although clients can access it from any platform, it's not available for anything else.
First one on Google is just the name, but 2nd is "computer associates removal tool". Makes you wonder why.....
It's Canada that's suing - you know CA = Canada. Geeze!
Pystar. Nokia. iAnything lawsuits. Lawsuits for Look n feel. Lawsuits to close down unlocking of iPhones or iTunes store.
"Cool story, bro." - by wampus (1932) on Friday November 26, @11:33AM (#34350648)
Thanks for the kind words, & for reading it (it's only what happened & truth)...
In my opinion (but NOT in ALL cases)?
"Big Money" is big money because there are NO "nice businessmen", & they pull a LOT of "dirty tricks" to do so...
CA certainly shows their ethics (bad) in both their accounting scandal I pointed to here -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1884922&cid=34350102 which you read & commented on, as well as how they, & OTHERS LIKE THEY AS WELL mind you, have done myself, & others whom I noted (Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT, and even Dr. Mark Russinovich of MS as well as only 2 examples thereof above & beyond myself).
E.G.-> Nir Sofer's a good software engineer who produces a LOT of really useful smallish "power tools" type apps of very high quality for both 32/64 bit (as does Dr. M. Russinovich of MS also, but he's so well known I really don't have to go into it about he because you probably know who he is - he has had it happen to he as well (psexec & others tools he's done))...
Mr. Sofers' done entire blogs about how the "small software maker gets illegally screwed by the big software publication houses" & he's right - he feels it's done to try to "squash competition" and I tend to agree with he on all accounts. He & I have had HUGE discussions on this via email, & he's even posted in my posts here regarding this (on /. here)... just to "second my motions" & to prove I am legit in what I write which you read.
CA? Well, what I think (know) of them from what I posted in my init. post you responded to?? You know what I think about them @ this point.
(Heck, they even listed the app of mine under my MIDDLE NAME + LAST NAME, instead of my 1st + last name... so I would not find it only doing google searches & what-not... but I did find it, and now you know the deal on it! So will anyone else reading now... serves CA right!)
APK
P.S.=> Big companies who practice the dirty tricks they do, as CA has been shown to do from reputable sources I posted? They'll do ANYTHING to try to get a "competitive edge", and of course, execs there getting their ill-gotten gains in "bonuses"... it's completely reprehensible behavior, and it comes at the expense of others via less than honorable means (all for "the Holy Dollar") - yes, this IS "the world today" people.... apk
WTF really? I am into Database knitting business for long long time (17 years). Never heard of Computer Associates Database product. Okay, I've not RTFA.
Wow, you finally made a post that didn't look like it came from timecube. Congratulations on figuring out how to use the quotation marks like a regular human being instead of labelling everything in bold all caps.
I didn't mod your post (posting AC removes mods, so that would prove it) but you posted the exact same rant twice. "Redundant" is a perfectly cromulent mod for that.
Whoa! I find out in the same paragraph that not only does CA have a database platform but suddenly it is worthy of intellectual property protection mechanisms. Why have I not heard of this yet? It must be awesome for them to have kept it secret all this time.
I don't care how antiquated CA's DB is, DB2 isn't exactly a rising technology in databases. Seems like CA would have more to scream about if the migration tool were porting customers over to MS SQL or Oracle.
The two products are CA-Datacom/DB from Computer Associates and 2BDB2 from ISI.
CA-Datacom was originally developed ADR (Applied Data Research) in the 1980's. It's an inverted-index style database, a design approach which was popular before the SQL model came to dominate DBMS design. CA may claim that Datacom is not dying, but they will be unable to point to a new customer signed in the last 15 years. Pretty much every site which has Datacom installed also has DB2. Having critical data spread across multiple DBMS's is a significant problem, so they want to consolidate to a single DBMS (and it isn't going to be Datacom). CA has been milking Datacom for it's flow of license fees for years. They provide support and keep Datacom working with new releases of z/OS, but otherwise feature growth has been minimal. For instance, CA has failed to develop similar functionality to 2BDB2.
2BDB2 is a transparency layer which simulates Datacom/DB on top of DB2. This allows applications which have been developed for Datacom/DB to actually access DB2, with 2BDB2 translating program calls to Datacom/DB into SQL requests to DB2 and passing the results back. The Datacom/DB app does not have to changed or recompiled (a major advantage as retesting mainframe code is very expensive). 2BDB2 also provides a similar transparency layer for VSAM files.
The litigation between CA and ISI has be running for some years. It started after ISI sold 2BDB2 to some large sites, in particular US Customs (which was the largest Datacom/DB user, and I presume, paid the largest license fees). This dispute is all about screwing the customer so as to continue to receive the cash flow.
My 1st post has been modded up (only thing is, after you read what I put up below from Bruce Perens no less, for how long though? LMAO I took a screenshot & saved a .mht file also of it just in case for the heck of it so I have a record of it)...
Secondly, as to your "meme" (imo? LOL, what a STUPID word)?
Read this:
Per my subject-line above, let's use the words of a respected other (Mr. Bruce Perens) to show more of how BIG MONEY OPERATES, albeit online:
"I have been offered the online-perception-management services I'm talking about while managing at HP and Sourcelabs. If you are not aware of companys concern for their online perception and what they do about it, and won't take my word for it, there isn't much point in arguing about it with you." - by Bruce Perens (3872)
on Friday July 30, @09:27PM (#33092398) Homepage Journal
FROM -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1738364&cid=33092398 [slashdot.org]
and
"It just takes one Ubuntu sympathizer or PR flack to minus-moderate any comment. Unfortunately, once PR agencies and so on started paying people to moderate online communities, and to have hundreds of accounts each, things changed." - by Bruce Perens (3872) on Friday July 30, @03:55PM (#33089192) Homepage Journal
FROM -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1738364&cid=33089192 [slashdot.org]
Does whoever is downmodding me, or razzing me as YOU have *THINK* they're fooling anyone here?
They're not fooling myself, OR, Mr. Bruce Perens... he's a very respected fellow in the *NIX & Open Source world on that same account & he's even showing us all reading here "how things are done" by "BIG MONEY" to try to snow others & cover up their bullshit while they try to mess with others online & otherwise.
(Almost every post I made here today on this, using reputable backing/sources on my part no less, has been downmodded today here in this thread... & all I have to say to debunk that b.s. is "read the above"... simple!)
APK
P.S.=> Mr. Perens is only showing us all how these bought & paid for online cronies & their pricks that pay them to do so operate...
I.E.-> They infest forums like these, make 100's of bogus alternate registered accounts (to get "mod points" for down moderating others who show them for who & what they really are... too bad anyone "in the know" (like Mr. Perens) know their tricks, as do I!)... apk
They have to prove the code was made from their code, how can they do this, unless they have access to this code, most others reverse engineer the stuff, why this case only where they think it impossible to do this???
CA is where terminal software goes to die
The business model is:
1) Buy products that are circling the drain
2) Flog said products to the clueless
3) Promise a big party at CA World
4) PROFIT!!!
We have assloads of CA shiteware, our clueless managers just love going to CA World every year. Last year's keynote was that Avatar guy, w00t!
-- How I want a drink, alcoholic of course, after the heavy lectures involving quantum mechanics.
You've never heard of Ingres? They owned it for a while until selling it on.
You'd be surprised at the software which is acquired by large multi-national corps, Oracle being a prime example of "oh what the fuck, they own that?" syndrome.
"Wow, you finally made a post that didn't look like it came from timecube. Congratulations on figuring out how to use the quotation marks like a regular human being instead of labelling everything in bold all caps." by Anonymous Coward writes: on Friday November 26, @12:14PM (#34350980)
See subject and grow up and while you're attempting to be more mature? Get your PHD you do not have to your name and in english and then we'll consider you some "expert" in the English language in spoken or written form.
"I didn't mod your post" by Anonymous Coward writes: on Friday November 26, @12:14PM (#34350980)
Yes, sure you didn't mod his post down, sure (sarcasm). Talk about giving yourself away you multiple account using troll (the kind the other ac's post speaks of and with the same type of information from Bruce Perens no less).
You're only proving this ac and Mr. Bruce Perens correct that online forums are riddled with "online perception management" firms paid for cronies. CA is shown to be a pack of crooks, and someone gets modded down for showing the truth here (after they were modded up +2 no less which for an ac is difficult to achieve), and the "down modder" thinks he is fooling someone? Please, give us all a break. It's obvious this is CA's staff or paid for stooges online trying to hide valid information and proof that CA is a dirty and disreputable company.
Whoever modded this ac down is now only proving this ac and Mr. Bruce Perens correct that online forums are riddled with "online perception management" firms paid for cronies. I mean, first CA is shown to be a pack of crooks in accounting scandals and other shady practices, and someone shows us that with valid backing proof and then they get modded down for showing the truth here (after they were modded up +2 no less which for an ac is difficult to achieve), and the "down modder" thinks he is fooling someone?
Give us all a break.
It's obvious this is CA's staff or paid for stooges online trying to hide valid information and proof that CA is a dirty and disreputable company by down moderating posts that expose CA for who they really are, which is crooks.
You're right, you were first modded up and now modded down like mad along with the slashdot paid for trolls trying to harass you, with them only looking more stupid than they usually do. The fact they have to use down mods with no real technical justifications shows you this is the only so called weapon those trolling cowards have and that you are correct along with Mr. Bruce Perens. This ac and Mr. Bruce Perens correct that online forums are riddled with "online perception management" firms paid for cronies. CA is shown to be a pack of crooks, and someone gets modded down for showing the truth here (after they were modded up +2 no less which for an ac is difficult to achieve), and the "down modder" thinks he is fooling someone? Please, give us all a break. It's obvious this is CA's staff or paid for stooges online trying to hide valid information and proof that CA is a dirty and disreputable company.
CA has ruined my workplace, all of the products that we use are being replaced by the inferior CA ones. How? they are taking all of the upper management to football and concerts. It's corporate malfeasance of the worse kind. Their products are the worse garbage, pieced together from parts that don't work, pushed by overagressive sales forces , mismanaged by their pmo's and then their incompetent engineers come up and tell you how you are going to modify your infrastructure to fit their product. they should die
They surely modded down your post and most likely are CA's paid for trolls moderating you down here and in your other posts like this one. How predictable of they, and quite correct of yourself on this note.
I've used their ERWin product which seems pretty good but they have an actual database?!?!?!
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
"You started here with an interesting rant but why do you fuck it up by repeating yourself ad nauseum?" - by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 26, @12:54PM (#34351264)
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1884922&cid=34350102 See that, & it seems that others seem to heavily disagree with your b.s. because my original post here today on this subject has been modded up to +5 interesting "front-page comment material"
So much for YOUR off-topic ranting, eh?
Additionally - Last time I checked? The USA was a country that grants free speech as an "inalienable right" (/. is in the USA, as am I), so, I'll post what I like, where I like, & how much I like...
(... & if you don't LIKE IT? Hey - DON'T READ IT: That's the best I can tell you I suppose "Pretty simple/cut & dried"...)
APK
P.S.=> As to anyone modding down my posts here today on this topic (even though they have reputable sources as my backing)?
Well, I'll let Mr. Bruce Perens of OpenSource fame speak for me on that account, as I have here in quoting him -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1884922&cid=34351334
Which only puts the "paid for online cronies" here, and pretty much on any largely travelled forums nowadays, right in their places, & simply by exposing the fact that others know about how they operate (unjustified down mods, even hassling others as you have myself with that off topic b.s. comment of yours, & more)... apk
Wampus, I thought you were being cool to me, but it appears you're not being cool (others filled me in on your use of your "meme" (which is some stupid new trendy term, I don't interest myself in those, as I consider them the province of noobs or juveniles in any arena)).
"Meme" is even listed as "slang" in dictionaries of repute such as it is noted here by the Merriam Webster dictionary -> New Words & Slang http://nws.merriam-webster.com/opendictionary/newword_search.php ...
So, I look @ the 'bright side' here, and I learned a new "meme" today, even though it's juvenile b.s. and the province of trolls... and I watched you get modded down for your efforts.
APK
P.S.=> Nicest part is, in the end ? The /. community here took care of you for me (thanks /.'ers who modded me up here, & for all accounts like "taking out the trash" like wampus who likes trolling others apparently.)... apk
I like how I can tell when APK is writing even when he doesn't initial his posts. Poor form, APK, responding to your own posts, as well as copy-pasting the same post multiple times in the same discussion.
I bet he responds to this post, too (probably without initials), since I've never known him to be able to prevent himself from responding on any forum.
"I hope CA continues raping your corpse." - by wampus (1932) on Saturday November 27, @09:22AM (#34357612)
You're only raping yourself... getting yourself modded down as flamebait as you have (lmao) by everyone here for your 'wannabe clever' use of "memes" trying to hassle me here - too bad others blew you away for it, eh? Not.
(There's a "meme" in & of itself in there, maybe? Perhaps something along the lines of "do unto others, and slashdot will do unto you"?? In any event??? You sure found out firsthand... LOL!)
APK
P.S.=> Once more, so you can "drink it in, & digest it": CA's only raping themselves, & everyone knows it, or didn't you read this? Here it is again, for your reference ->
PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:
"Customers know Computer Associates - and, these days, for all the wrong reasons. Just as the company was beginning to shed its reputation as a home for legacy software products that carried an inflated price tag, it was rocked by a series of accounting scandals. An on-going FBI fraud inquiry and investigations by the US Department of Justice and the Securities and Exchange Commission have left it reeling, with a power vacuum at the top as over a dozen senior executives have left or been sacked. The allegations centre on internal accounting and sales activities in the years around the turn of the century, and involve the movement of revenues between quarters and product areas, and consequently, the mis-statement of financial results."
FROM -> http://www.information-age.com/articles/290656/the-information-age-interview.thtml
apk
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1884922&cid=34357774 Now, there you go, once more, for your reference again... take a good read, & "drink it in, & digest it", ok?
(You only did that to yourself, & the /. community here modded you right into the dirt where you belong... LMAO!)
Additionally? Well, judging by your "swift reaction" to what I wrote you in that URL above?? Ah, nothing like striking a nerve in a troll who got himself "modded down" as flamebait as you did for being nothing more than a troll!
Oh, yea, before I forget? You also said this, directed MY way:
"I hope CA continues raping your corpse." - by wampus (1932) on Saturday November 27, @09:22AM (#34357612)
CA's only "raping themselves" -> http://www.information-age.com/articles/290656/the-information-age-interview.thtml and there's the proof (in CA being caught doing accounting scandals and getting busted for it)... what goes around, comes around, eh? LMAO!
However, since you apparently like being modded down (lol) & roasting yourself into charcoal?
Well... how you spend YOUR time is up to you I suppose (lmao), but, I'll continue doing things like this list shows below, instead (try it yourself sometime, unless you like continuing being a troll and being modded down (lol) for it, as well as your evidencing yourself as a "ne'er-do-well"):
"My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."
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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!
Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...
Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3
Lastly, lately (this year)?
It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them how to do Process Priority Control @ the GUI usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 level in their program (good one too), & being credited for it by their lead dev & his team... see here -> http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/handbook/Credits.html
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What do I have to sa
des without permission and deprived CA of license fees. CA also disputed claims that its database platform was 'dying.'"
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Getting desperate, are we? (Score:1) ...or are they just undead?
by furbyhater (969847)
Alter Relationship
on Fri November 26, 8:42 (#34349840)
This reeks of desperation...
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Is CA still alive??? (Score:2)
by AliasMarlowe (1042386)
Alter Relationship
on Fri November 26, 8:47 (#34349872) Journal
There was always an unsavoury whiff from their stuff.
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CA's disreputable (acc'ting scandal) (Score:5, Interesting)
by Anonymous Coward on Fri November 26, 9:13 (#34350102)
"There was always an unsavoury whiff from their stuff." - by AliasMarlowe (1042386) on Friday November 26, @09:47AM (#34349872)
CA's disreputable - See their "ethics" in accounting practices which they got busted for:
PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:
"Customers know Computer Associates - and, these days, for all the wrong reasons. Just as the company was beginning to shed its reputation as a home for legacy software products that carried an inflated price tag, it was rocked by a series of accounting scandals. An on-going FBI fraud inquiry and investigations by the US Department of Justice and the Securities and Exchange Commission have left it reeling, with a power vacuum at the top as over a dozen senior executives have left or been sacked. The allega
"Customers know Computer Associates - and, these days, for all the wrong reasons. Just as the company was beginning to shed its reputation as a home for legacy software products that carried an inflated price tag, it was rocked by a series of accounting scandals. An on-going FBI fraud inquiry and investigations by the US Department of Justice and the Securities and Exchange Commission have left it reeling, with a power vacuum at the top as over a dozen senior executives have left or been sacked. The allegations centre on internal accounting and sales activities in the years around the turn of the century, and involve the movement of revenues between quarters and product areas, and consequently, the mis-statement of financial results."
FROM -> http://www.information-age.com/articles/290656/the-information-age-interview.thtml
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Also, per my subject line above: wampus, what was your attempt at trolling me rated in your first post here? Oh, yes, another "direct quote" below of that data also (lol):
Re: (Score:0, Flamebait) by wampus (1932) from -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1884922&cid=34350648
(LMAO!)
APK
P.S.=> I also see that you've done nothing of good note in the computer sciences either when I asked if you had in our exchange here (whereas by way of comparison, I have a dozen or so in a list, only a PARTIAL LIST of my favs. also mind you, that I started & did well in in the eyes of others, while you were still in diapers I strongly suspect (and I continue to do so currently as well)) -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1884922&cid=34357908
So, I suppose that stands to reason (since you're a troll) & quite obviously, a "ne'er-do-well" also, that you've never done a damned thing with your life worth noting (or that others have noted either apparently on your part)...
Once more, just think: You're "well on your way" (not) to becoming JUST LIKE YOUR HEROES @ CA (lololol)... apk
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CA's db is dying? (Score:2)
by LaminatorX (410794)
Alter Relationship
on Fri November 26, 9:16 (#34350124) Homepage
Quick, somebody get confirmation from Netcraft.
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"The most merciful quality of the human mind is its inability to correlate its contents" --HPL
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Runs only on big hardware (Score:2, Informative)
by sbates (1832606)
Alter Relationship
on Fri November 26, 9:18 (#34350132)
From the ca site (http://www.ca.com/us/products/overview.aspx?id={40FB2A1D-9B09-429E-9D52-123477B87E97}):
It is a high-performance, multi-user relational database management system based on z/OS and VSE host platforms.
Unfortunately, although clients can access it from any platform, it's not available for anything else.
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Second most popular CA search (Score:3, Insightful)
by echucker (570962)
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on Fri November 26, 9:24 (#34350190) Homepage
First one on Google is just the name, but 2nd is "computer associates removal tool". Makes you wonder why.....
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Don't wonder why (CA=disreputable, see inside) (Score:-1, Redundant)
by Anonymous Coward on Fri November 26, 10:20 (#34350586)
CA's disreputable - See their "ethics" in accounting practices which they got busted for:
PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:
"Customers know Computer Associates - and, these days, for all the wrong reasons. Just as the company was beginning to shed its reputation as a home for legacy software products that carried an inflated price tag, it was rocked by a series of accounting scandals. An on-going FBI fraud inquiry and investigations by the US Department of Justice and the Securities and Exchange Commission have left it reeling, with a power vacuum at the top as over a dozen senior executives have left or been sacked. The allegations centre on internal accounting and sales activities in the years around the turn of the century, and involve the movement of revenues between quarters and product areas, and consequently, the mis-statement of financial results."
FROM -> http://www.information-age.com/articles/290656/the-information-age-interview.thtml [information-age.com]
(Read on below, it only gets better, as to how CA really "operates"...)
APK
P.S.=> CA also listed a freeware of mine as a "malware" which was written to help out a fellow forums person I knew at NTCompatible years ago, because he had an OLD version of Apache server on Windows which would not run as a tooltray icon while minimized & it was not implemented as a service he told me (that was so it was not visible onscreen and ran "in the background transparently" which most webservers now, do).
So, in good faith/being a "good neighbor", I wrote it up for he (it's NOT commandline argv/argc parameterizeable either, so it's NOT scriptable) in GUI form (only 2-3 lines of code & works via C/C++ type invisible "spawn" type parameterizations).
Next thing I know? My app's listed out online being classed as a "malware" @ CA's websites!
It's only 1 of around 40 freeware apps I've done over time that did VERY well & were featured in respected publications in good reviews in reputable & respected publications like "Windows IT Pro" Magazine (it was Windows NT Mag back then in the 1990's - early 21st century) & others of like ilk. It was also listed under my MIDDLE + LAST NAME, rather than my 1st name + last name (etc.), doubtless so I would NEVER find it most likely (but, I did).
A fool named "Thor Schrock" is who did that submittal to they I strongly suspect, because I found posts of his on CA's malware forums, AND, I also wrote he and he kept addressing me by my MIDDLE name + last name, rather than my first name - which IS how CA listed it (this is actually online too, in a blog of his).
I asked Thor SCHMUCK why isn't Spybot "Search & Destroy" also listed? It alters a
wampus, what was your first post here rated, where you attempt trolling me? Oh, yes, another "direct quote" below of that data also (lol):
Re: (Score:0, Flamebait) by wampus (1932) from -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1884922&cid=34350648
(LMAO! Yup... that "4 digit registered user id" is REALLY "helping you" now (not), isn't it? That's what you get for being a troll though... others here modded you into oblivion for trolling, & it serves you right!)
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Hehehehe - "How would you like your 'wampus' served, sir?" EXTRA-CRISPY is the answer (just the way wampus likes it himself, TOTALLY "BURNED"/"FLAME BROILED", see above... lmao!).
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Ahhh, thanks for the large laughs @ you here this a.m. while I drink my coffee... you can't PAY for this type of amusement!
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1884922&cid=34358098 I asked the question I referred to in my subject-line above there in the url I just put up from this exchange, and I did so now, again (for your reference)...
(Can't you read, or is it that you are just avoiding answering?)
"Inquiring minds want to know", lol...
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"I bet he responds to this post, too (probably without initials), since I've never known him to be able to prevent himself from responding on any forum." - by wampus (1932) on Saturday November 27, @11:48AM (#34358262)
First of all, regarding that quote? Hey - I always sign my posts as APK (would you like a list of oh, 130 or so, that were "up modded" +1 to +5 here on /. too? I can produce it instantly!), & on all forums I have joined since 1995 online.
Just because others disagree with what was said by trolls like yourself (which they have, see the question I keep asking you where you are downmodded into OBLIVION)? Doesn't mean I posted it. I defend myself quite well, look at your reactions here, and your rating (flamebait, lol!) which others did FOR me no less here, & I thanked them for it.
Secondly, it appears you like to "stalk me" as well, across multiple forums it seems as well/no less based on the quoted statement... yup, no shortage of "internet 'psycho-stalkers'" out there, & success? It breeds enemies!
(Especially "ne'er-do-well trolls" like you... I mean, hey, after all: I asked you if you have done anything of the likes of the PARTIAL list of my fav. accomplishments in the computer sciences here http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1884922&cid=34357908 and you avoid that too, just like you do my questions here now, which I asked you repeatedly as to your init. trolling post directed my way here now and you avoid it also... WHY IS THAT, wampus? (we know, lolololol))
APK
P.S.=> Just think: You're "well-on-your-way" (lol) to becoming JUST LIKE YOUR HEROES @ CA! You only did it to yourself, JUST LIKE CA, lol... See below:
"Customers know Computer Associates - and, these days, for all the wrong reasons. Just as the company was beginning to shed its reputation as a home for legacy software products that carried an inflated price tag, it was rocked by a series of accounting scandals. An on-going FBI fraud inquiry and investigations by the US Department of Justice and the Securities and Exchange Commission have left it reeling, with a power vacuum at the top as over a dozen senior executives have left or been sacked. The allegations centre on internal accounting and sales activities in the years around the turn of the century, and involve the movement of revenues between quarters and product areas, and consequently, the mis-statement of financial results."
FROM ->
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1884922&cid=34350102 and that +5 makes frontpage news here on slashdot where APK was rated as highly as possible. I caught this being referred to here where APK exposed Computer Associates for their accounting scandals and fraud http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1884922&cid=34350102 in this forum thread. You also seem to be stalking him from your statements which in my estimation makes you some sort of deviant online. When you get your doctorate in English or forensics, we'll believe you as to APK posting that. I notice he signs all of his postings as APK though from the thread I came from, so what's your proof? Nothing I can see.
Put up a URL @ least, something I can click on & see if I was even a part of it... whatever the hell it is you're telling me to "Reply to" (which I have NO idea why'd you'd lead me to threads I probably am not even part of, but, show me otherwise, put up a URL!)
APK
P.S.=> You're constantly avoiding answering what you init . post troling me was rated, and you also avoid showing any of us you've done anything noteworthy in computing others rated well in publication etc./et al... but, I seriously do NOT know what the hell you are telling me to reply to either! So, once more - Put up a URL... apk
Friends of mine were working for Ingres when CA bought them in the mid 90s. If you didn't get laid off or quit, you could only keep your job by signing some ridiculously pro-CA hiring agreement. Lots of bitterness and classic software-industry war stories ensued, like the 15 people on the "really try to keep these critical engineers" list all walking in to HR together to quit, and the general opinion was "Friends don't let CA buy their friends."
Bill Stewart
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