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Dolly the Sheep Alive Again
SpeZek writes "Dolly the sheep has been reborn. Four clones have been made by the scientist behind the original research.
The quads, which have been nicknamed 'the Dollies,' are exact genetic copies of their predecessor, who was put down seven years ago.
The latest experiments were partly carried out to check if improvements to the technique cut the risk of problems in and out of the womb.
Named after country and western singer Dolly Parton, Dolly was created from a cell taken from a mammary gland. The rest of the sample of tissue has lain in a freezer since, until it was defrosted to make the Dollies."
Pass the mint jelly :-)
It's the gift that keeps on giving the whole year.
Okay, is my mind totally in the gutter, or is there a significance to the mammary gland / Dolly Parton link?
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I'm curious to know if Dolly will be the new teacup (used to test rendering algorithms) or Lenna (for image processing).
Will we be cloning the same sheep over and over again as a common reference?
This makes me wonder how many people are cloning their pets and bringing them back.
I'm not sure I could do that myself. I miss some of mine, but would it be appropriate to bring them back, or should I just get another?
Don't know. But I think about it.
Well, it's not as if they created her out of some sort of vacuum. They're just manipulating the machines that nature has already provided.
GOOD NIGHT!
Stupid journalists and movie makers keep thinking cloning something makes a true copy. These are genetic progeny; Dolly's sisters, not Dolly.
Duncan Idaho...
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Now we know the identity of the Lost Cylon.
on the up side , lamp chops will never be in short supply, now we just need to clone some tasty pigs.......think of the bacon
iDolly this will work this time.
They've been doing this for years in Medicine. Just ask Henrietta Lacks.
From the article, the original Dolly was put down after about 6 years due to all kinds of medical conditions (infections, arthritis, etc). However, these four sheep are 3.5 years old, and are apparently in perfect health. A major argument against the use of cloned animals in animal husbandry (either cloning particularly tasty animals or using clones to breed) is that cloned animals end up in constant agony due to their origin.
Since these cloned animals appear just as comfortable and pain free as your "run of the mill" farm animal, it seems as if cloned animals can be just as humane to farm as normal animals. In fact, since the meat yield from each animal is much higher (by definition of selective cloning as the pinnacle of selective breeding), I would argue that using more cloned animals would reduce the ecological impact of the meat industry.
Ye average American Joe might not want to eat cloned meat, but clones are already breeding like mad to produce more productive offspring. Perhaps this new longitudinal study will give more insights on the ethics and health impacts of cloned meat.
Signatures are the new names.
I can't imagine human cloning being that much more difficult biologically speaking than sheep. IANAB, but my guess is that geo-political and fundy-religio restrictions are the only things stopping this sort of activity from greater proliferation. How long until we see countries cloning mass eugenicized armies of the perfect race for warfare, class-control, workforce supply, and nationalistic tendencies? 50 years anybody?
'We are trying to prove ourselves wrong as quickly as possible, because only in that way can we find progress.' RPF
I've heard of reincarnation, but this is ridiculous!
So how long until the first genetic piracy article on Slashdot?
How does it relates to the country songs ? By the amount of clones ?
Dolly Idaho.
Abduhl Al-Hazred, in his Necronomicon wrote:
"That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die."
Haha. I am an athiest, and you are an idiot.
Dolly made headlines around the world when she was born at the Roslin Institute near Edinburgh in 1996.
For some reason I thought these were "The Sheep from Brazil".
Now that is a Texas-size sexual fantasy!
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Did she mention bright lights, an unearthly presence, Or meeting my mom?
These are not Dolly, but other sheep of the same name.
The GOP is hoping to clone Ronald Reagan before the 2012 election, being that they are short real candidates.
Table-ized A.I.
Following your logic, there is a God.
And he's cloning sheep!
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Four virgin sheep asses! That's alot of fucking for your typical Aggie!
Q: How do you know when you're in College Station, TX?
A: When you honk your horn, all of the livestock backs up to the fences.
Did you hear about the Texas A&M Aggie who moved to Oklahoma and improved the collective IQ of both states?
...call them Dolly Sisters.
Chaos maximizes locally around me.
Your spelling and grammar are atrocious, and they further betray your ignorance. Does it hurt to be so stupid? You make one hell of a logical leap to conclude that you possess absolute knowledge of the universe just because we can manipulate cells from a sheep tit.
Which takes a greater leap of faith? To believe in God, or to believe that the entire universe self-created from nothingness?
Well, obviously, it's a greater leap of faith to believe in a god.
After all, it's much more of a leap for your god to self-create from nothingness.
They said only god could create life, well, then Dolly is irrefutable prove that there is no god.
Or that they were wrong about only God being able to create life.
Unless they used eggs from the same host animal as before, they are unlikely to be genetically identical since the mitochondrial DNA will be different.
The mitochondrial DNA problem is one reason why embryonic stem cells produced via cloning are still rejected by the animal in which it is implanted.
They have the same nucleolus DNA but not the same mitochondrion DNA
It's not just a horror/gore movie spoof anymore.
make imaginary.friends COUNT=100 VISIBLE=false
They need to see how far they can push cloning, I propose they keep cloning this sheep and see how far they can take the cloning before they end up with nothing by Eldritch Abominations....
Tsukasa: All I really want, is to be left alone...
Still, she never calls.
What did YOU think, again?
The result was a Dolly Llama
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The question is: who stated that second theory? Not a scientist, I'm pretty sure.
Any reasonable people would believe neither, as none has any evidence to support itself.
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Bit of a war monger that one. Keep it away from Cardassians (especially Damaaaaaaaaaaaar)
Don't see the fuss myself, they all look the same to me.
There were more clones, but the scientist could never finish counting them - they kept falling asleep.
Rather clone asses (not: arses) next time.
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I wonder if they have a hive mind - could this be the first Beowool cluster?
I call them Bitch Dollies..... Wanna meet 'em?
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IIRC the procedure is still far too expensive to be used commercially on ordinary farm animals. Wait until we genetically reprogram the animals so that they can give birth to their own clones without manual intervention.
What I suspect will happen is that we'll find out that all sheep are clones of Dolly that we sent back in time sometime in the future, to the distant past before sheep existed...
I wonder if they have a hive mind - could this be the first Beowool cluster?
If the sheep have a hive mind, wouldn't it be a Bee-O-Wool cluster?
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Yeah - the mammary gland cells weren't produced from scratch - just replicated
antipaucity
The word you were looking for is "off", not "of", moron.
Mary had a little lamb, its fleece was slightly grey,
It didn't have a father, just some borrowed DNA.
It sort of had a mother, though the ovum was on loan,
It was not so much a lambkin, as a little lamby clone.
And soon it had a fellow clone, and soon it had some more,
They followed her to school one day, all cramming through the door.
It made the children laugh and sing, the teachers found it droll,
There were too many lamby clones, for Mary to control.
No other could control the sheep; their programs didn't vary,
So the scientists resolved it all by simply cloning Mary.
But now they feel quite sheepish, those scientists unwary,
One problem solved! But what to do, with Mary, Mary, Mary...
-- by Anonymous (it's not mine; the writer's name is forgotten.)
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The question is: who stated that second theory? Not a scientist, I'm pretty sure.
Science says basically "we not only don't know what happened before the big bang, we can't know what happened before the big bang, and in fact nothing happened before the big bang because there is no such thing as "before the big bang" since time itself didn't exist before the big bang.
However, there's a slashdotter whose sig reads "In the beginning, there was nothing. Then it exploded."
How do you know she's not an astrophysicist?
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Hmm...., let's see. Poof poof, and poof. There, god created the universe.
The "other theories" on the other hand... Big Bang -> elementary particles combine -> create hydrogen -> fusion -> higher elements -> radiation -> complex compounds -> simple life -> evolution (*gasp*) -> life as we know (and don't know) it.
If I believe in the second theory, then the floodgates open for exotic stuff, say like gravity (two rocks attract each other? Bah, it's the love of god binding them).
Whereas the elegant, simple, first item on the menu, leads me to the wonderful world where nothing is impossible, demons possess people and wizards would be zipping around on brooms if it were not for the church to ban them (sorry Harry).
Anyway, I digress. The thing is, nobody possesses the absolute knowledge of the universe. If god created then who created god? If it was the big-bang then what was before it, and what caused it (admittedly though scientists are working on it)? The good thing about the scientific side of the fence is the fact that we admit when we don't know something and somebody somewhere gets a grant to look into the matter, instead of declaring it the handiwork (noodlywork?) of the spaghetti dude.
On the cosmic scale my friend, we are all ignorant, or innocent.
A new revelation every day
Based on everything I've learned from Hollywood, all they'll have to do is splice in some frog DNA, and then: raptor-sheep.
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
"It's so nice to have you back where you belong. You're looking swell, Dolly, We can tell, Dolly, You're still glowin', you're still crowin' You're still goin' strong."
I don't think I've seen so many troll mods in a row before. Obviously some pissed off christians have mod points today.
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Thanks for the social lesson. On a related note, people quote Sarah Palin a lot because she is funnier than, well - almost anyone with a clue. Now, allow me to return the favor: Scientist use the term mammary gland instead of breast, because not all breasts have mammary glands, and the two words, while related, are not synonymous.
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
Drool dribbles down his chin, complete with idiot like grin on The End of Days' part (lol). Picture that.
So first, there was Dolly (clone of Doly) ;-)
Now it's Dollly, DoIVy, DoVy, and DoVIy?
(Won't look quite right if your font distinguishes between l [lower case L] and I [uppercase i]).
--Udo.
- at least for people with nothing stored in their brain...
So what trauma must these golas be subjected to in order to trigger the memories of the original dolly?
--= Isn't it surprising how badly I spell ?
Of course there is prior art on a naming convention for clones. If there are 4 clones of Dolly, they're named 2Dolly, 3Dolly, 4Dolly, and 5Dolly.
Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
Science says basically "we not only don't know what happened before the big bang, we can't know what happened before the big bang, and in fact nothing happened before the big bang because there is no such thing as "before the big bang" since time itself didn't exist before the big bang.
Nobody talked about the big bang or what happened before it, but nice strawman. Even the Big Bang itself is just a theory - there are more.
Parent said that the theory is "that the entire universe self-created from nothingness" which has no evidence to support it, unlike other theories. So while you may conceive it, no respectable scientist would believe it to be true.
However, there's a slashdotter whose sig reads "In the beginning, there was nothing. Then it exploded."
How do you know she's not an astrophysicist?
That depends on your definition of scientist. If you think scientist is someone with a PhD in a science, then I guess she's a scientist.
I prefer Isaac Newton's: "a scientist is an individual who uses the scientific method."
And anyone who believes that did not use the scientific method.
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I consider both definitions of "scientist" to be equally valid, but it's just as likely (or more so) that she's a programmer or an engineer. Her sig is, after all, meant to be humorous.
some theories are untestable (so far). I guess rather than calling these folks scientists, you would call them mathemeticians? If so, that's an entirely valid view in my opinion.
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I don't think I've seen so many troll mods in a row before. Obviously some pissed off christians have mod points today.
I'm a Christian, and just find ignorant people funny.
:D
My favorite, though, is definitely the evangelizing atheist
I do, however, consider it important to respect peoples religious beliefs... to an extent. Keep holy the Sabbath? Sure. Blame the rape victim? Not so much....
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I'd sure like to know!
I'm honest enough to admit I lie to myself.
So Dolly lives again in mammary?
Why is this even on SlashDot?... Why is this even on Slashdot?...Why is this even on Slashdot?
anyone know how many years you can keep embryos in the freezer for??
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So we call them Dolly-lam-a, Dolly-lam-b
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