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ChromeOS Laptop-Smashing Ad Equation Solved

An anonymous reader writes "Google's latest marketing video for Chrome OS is interesting to watch for the laptop-smashing amateurs or the slow motion fans, but the real fun may be at 2:24 in the video where a X=G/(CHROM-3) equation is displayed on a chalkboard. Only 20 hours later, it has already been cracked by Jamendo founder Sylvain Zimmer and his team. They posted details on how they did it and won a Cr-48 netbook, which may not even be delivered because they are not in the US."

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  1. cracked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think you mean solved... and, well, it's not exactly a challenge to anyone who's had highschool calc, unless I'm missing something.

    1. Re:cracked? by Laxori666 · · Score: 3, Informative

      They had to figure out what the numbers meant.

    2. Re:cracked? by MokuMokuRyoushi · · Score: 2

      You are. And most other people are missing something as well. Their highschool calc. If they're not using it regularly, it tends to leak into oblivion. It's worse than that actually - I work in the tile/flooring industry, and you wouldn't believe the number of people who call in telling me the dimensions of their bathroom floor, and could you please tell me how many square feet that is?
      Actually, that's not entirely accurate, "please" is generally excluded. ...You see my point.

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    3. Re:cracked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And most other people are missing something as well.

      No, apparently something else is missing since the "solution" was to convert the digits to letters and go to the matching goo.gl url.

    4. Re:cracked? by zach_the_lizard · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If I have to guess, what they first did is solve for the various letters; in the video, each letter is given an equation, which resolves down to a number. Then they plug those into the equation at the bottom, resulting in X = 900.91/191605050401140404051920181525. Someone then had a flash of insight, noticed the 900.91 is similar to goo.gl, and thought that it could be a URL. But, just typing that in by itself would yield nothing. They had to get the random string of numbers to mean something. So they split it into 2 digits per character, 19 16 05 05.... and made the realization that those corresponded to a position of a letter in the alphabet. 19 is S, 16 is P, 5 is E, and so on. The final URL becomes: goo.gl/speedanddestroy. It's not impossible, it just takes some careful thought and attention to detail. I would have probably made it to the 900.91/number here stage if I had seen this beforehand, but the 900.91 is goo.gl insight probably would have eluded me, let alone dividing the numbers up like that.

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    5. Re:cracked? by zach_the_lizard · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not all of it is high school calc. IIRC the integral of 4sin(x)/x has to be solved with Taylor series, and I only got those in the second semester of university calculus. One then has to take the limit to infinity of the resulting series, which may or may not be doable for a high school kid (not sure how hard the limit is; I'm too lazy to solve / look up the series)

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    6. Re:cracked? by jmerlin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This has become the de-facto standard for e-puzzles these days. Step 1 - provide puzzle that results in very large number of some kind. Step 2 - have some kind of splitting and/or decoding step that's somewhat obvious that will convert the result to text. Step 3 - set up url, award prize of some kind to first N visitors. It's old and worn down, I would've expected better.

    7. Re:cracked? by JayRott · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't know why exactly but I really really want one myself. I registered for the pilot program, but at this point I think I just need to get in touch with one of the Google people and offer a hand job. I really have hit gadget rock bottom... is there a 12 step program or something?

    8. Re:cracked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why did solving this come with an award?

      Because publicity. There's no point in requiring a significant contributions to the sciences for a giveaway.

      Though I was hoping for something a bit more interesting when I clicked the link, I don't see the point in criticising Google for lack of originality here. It may be a familiar setup by this point, but it's still a cool thing to do. It's just a small bonus, it's not like we're entitled to have everything they do be completely awesome.

    9. Re:cracked? by ronocdh · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's old and worn down, I would've expected better.

      IOW: you didn't win, so you deride the contest rather than congratulate the winner.

    10. Re:cracked? by severoon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually quite basic math there too. Why did solving this come with an award? I can point to several thousand problems in various books on my shelves that are orders of magnitude more difficult than that entire problem, all of which are commonly assigned as nothing more than homework problems. Hell, I just did it in Wolfram Alpha in 5 mins. The only really tricky part was the URL bit but EVERYONE does that these days so it's assumption #1. Old puzzle methodology is old. Come on Google, be original.

      ...says the one who didn't win...

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    11. Re:cracked? by smash · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Did you think to go do the effort to solve the problem before realising what the consequences of doing so may be? The fact that someone bothered to go to the effort when seeing it on the ad is "worth" just as much, if not more than the actual ability to solve it.

      It shows that they're a person who is willing/eager to work on problems "just because" (they have an active mind) rather than being forced to by an employer or similar.

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    12. Re:cracked? by Patch86 · · Score: 2

      Why did solving this come with an award?

      To generate PR, obviously. Why else do you think we're even talking about it? It probably amounts to some pretty dirt-cheap advertising.

    13. Re:cracked? by julesh · · Score: 2

      Not all of it is high school calc. IIRC the integral of 4sin(x)/x has to be solved with Taylor series, and I only got those in the second semester of university calculus

      My integration is a bit rusty, but I suspect it can be integrated by an appropriate substitution chosen to allow simplification using standard trig identities. OTOH, the Taylor series approach is probably easier.

      At least here in the UK, BTW, Taylor series are part of the "further maths A level" syllabus, which is essentially equivalent to the last year of high school for students taking the most advanced maths courses possible.

    14. Re:cracked? by johanatan · · Score: 2

      Social engineers need not apply.

    15. Re:cracked? by smash · · Score: 3, Insightful

      OK let me spell it out for you. The guy watched the ad and paid attention. Enough to actually go through and work out the easter egg. Google wants to encourage people to watch, and pay attention to their ads.

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    16. Re:cracked? by MMC+Monster · · Score: 2

      err... Or you can just google for the answer...

      The first result is Wolfram alpha.

      Where, if you put in the integral, you can pick out the answer: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integral+of+(4+sin+x)%2Fx

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    17. Re:cracked? by owlstead · · Score: 3, Funny

      Could you run that by me again?

    18. Re:cracked? by Skidborg · · Score: 2

      In other words, Google was nerd sniping.

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  2. I solved it too! by jkmartin · · Score: 5, Funny

    To: alicethesurfer@gmail.com
    From: alf@nbc.com

    I found your cat. It was delicious.

  3. Missing Missy by PatPending · · Score: 2, Funny

    Speaking of a lost cat: Missing Missy

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  4. Re:Structual integrity by angloquebecer · · Score: 2

    Considering the Cr-48 is just a device Google is giving out for free to get user feedback, I don't think the structural integrity of the machine matters much. Google may sell them later on as developer machines but I hope nobody buys one to test whether it survives the kitchen sink falling on it.

  5. Re:Structual integrity by kimvette · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First look at the CR-48:

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/213168/google_cr48_first_look_at_the_first_chrome_os_laptop.html?tk=rel_news

    Working on the CR-48 can feel like walking a tightrope without a net (pardon the pun). If you're not connected to the Internet on this laptop, you're dead in the water. I wrote this article in Google Docs on the CR-48 during my commute. I should have been fine, because I had a Verizon Mi-Fi card for connectivity (our CR-48 arrived without a SIM card, so I couldn't test out the built-in 3G connection). But halfway through my commute, Chrome reported that it couldn't reach Google Docs. On any other laptop, this would be no problem. I'd copy my existing text into Word and continue working there. But on the CR-48, my options were severely limited. I pasted my changes into an Evernote note instead and hoped that I wouldn't lose my connection to that service.

    That's the problem with the cloud. Any problems on your end, at google, or anywhere in between, or if you forget to pay your cellular bill, you're not getting that proposal out to clients, you're not getting your tax returns in on time, you're not getting your paper in on time, etc.

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  6. Re:Structual integrity by tpstigers · · Score: 2

    Where's the -1 misinformed rating. People see "cloud" and they think OMG! Internet connection required! When in fact it's more of a background synchronization process.

    So what you're saying is that in this case synchronization can occur without a connection.

  7. Re:Structual integrity by angloquebecer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're describing how the "cloud" should work. Unfortunately for Google, a lot of the core apps for cOS don't have an offline mode. Until web apps get to the level of only using your connection to sync with local storage, we're still in the "cloud == internet connection" stages.

  8. Re:Structual integrity by kevinmenzel · · Score: 2

    Though on any other OS, you would have an offline word processor available.

  9. Let's have more of this in ads by PatPending · · Score: 2

    Surely other "high-tech" companies shouLd hide puzzles in their AdS--let us Have some Daily fun Out There--it's a clever and inexpensive way tO get tech-savvy people to pay Really close attention to ads, and Garner free publicity.

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  10. Contest Incentives by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    They posted details on how they did it and won a Cr-48 netbook, which may not even be delivered because they are not in the US"

    This reminds me how free-trade lobbyists claim that the US is losing jobs because we are "not educated enough" as allegedly demonstrated by our programmers not winning international contests.

    However, they fail to mention that the prizes are worth far more under third-world salaries. Thus, a third-world programmer has a much bigger incentive. A laptop may be equivalent to 2-days' wages in the US, but a month's-worth overseas. Thus, contest rankings are a poor metric of national skill.

    1. Re:Contest Incentives by Osgeld · · Score: 2

      I tend to think we are undereducated, why else would they be selling 300$ netbooks with dinky storage, laughable ram and a gimped keyboard to us?

      cause were stupid, that's why

  11. Stunned... No, I'm not. I lied. by bitbucketeer · · Score: 2

    How long, exactly, did it take Google to re-invent the X-terminal? Good thing they aren't hiring old-farts like me, or they'd fire me for laughing at their history-repeating ignorance.

  12. Re:Stunned... No, I'm not. I lied. by jkmartin · · Score: 4, Funny

    No no no, it's the X-terminal with WIRELESS!

  13. Wolfram|Alpha by pgn674 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here's what the whole thing looks like in Wolfram Alpha all at once: (9*10^4+3^4+10)/100/((2^8-10+4*6!+17^4+11!/5+integ(3x^5,x,1,9))(2*23^6-((2^28+4)/10-(22^4+3*70-sqrt(81))))(3*17^4-(sqrt(256)+31*30^2))(17*8!+93^2-10)(12*(11^2-6)/(5*pi)integ(4sin(x)/x,x,0,inf))-3) - Wolfram|Alpha

    The 200 character limit in the input box is annoying, and it seems that you can't get around it by creating a URL manually. Managed to get it from 220 characters to under 200 by using valid shortened stuff like "integ" instead of "integral", and removing * and () where possible.

  14. Re:Structual integrity by julesh · · Score: 2

    You're describing how the "cloud" should work. Unfortunately for Google, a lot of the core apps for cOS don't have an offline mode.

    It's been a while since I worked with Google Apps (because I think the file management UI is shit), but when I tried it all the apps I tried were perfectly able to work offline once I had downloaded Google Gears. I assume Chrome OS comes with Gears preinstalled...

  15. Re:Stunned... No, I'm not. I lied. by julesh · · Score: 2

    How long, exactly, did it take Google to re-invent the X-terminal?

    An X terminal requires a central X server to run your apps on. AIUI, on a chrome OS device, the apps are downloaded and run locally (as they are essentially javascript on web pages). It's a pretty fundamental difference.

  16. Re:Structual integrity by Pieroxy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is no google gears anymore. It's all in HTML5 now.

  17. Another ad begging to be made fun of by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

    Like the ancestry.com ads that beg for a joke version where a person finds that their ancestor was not the town doctor, but perhaps a war criminal or slave trader, this Chrome ad is begging for a version where Google's offices are burned down or raided by the authorities.

    "Unfortunately this Chrome laptop stores everything on the web, so you're absolutely fucked and there is nothing you can do."

    Also it's chilling how they consider eveything between the computer's OS and Google to be "extra baggage."

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  18. Re:...and for those of us not living in the US? by Skidborg · · Score: 2

    Go for the win and be satisfied with the fact that you're denying a netbook to an American somewhere?

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