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A Blue-Sky Idea For the USPS — Postal Trucks As Sensors

An anonymous reader writes "The US Postal Service may face insolvency by 2011 (it lost $8.5 billion last year). An op-ed piece in yesterday's New York Times proposes an interesting business idea for the Postal Service: use postal trucks as a giant fleet of mobile sensor platforms. [Registration-required link; this no-reg summary encapsulates the idea, as does this paper by the same author.] (Think Google Streetview on steroids.) The trucks could be outfitted with a variety of sensors (security, environmental, RF ...) and paid for by businesses. The article's author addresses some of the obvious privacy concerns that arise."

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  1. Insilvent? So what? by migla · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What are they gonna do? Dismantle the postal service? Just consider it infrastructure and pay for any loss from taxes. Surely the people of the US don't want to be without a postal service?

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    1. Re:Insilvent? So what? by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 2

      USPS already adopted the "run government like a business" philosophy.

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    2. Re:Insilvent? So what? by clarkkent09 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That doesn't work because it's not their money. People run things far more efficiently when it's their money or their bosses money on the line, rather than "everybody's" (i.e nobody's) money.

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    3. Re:Insilvent? So what? by clarkkent09 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      UPS won't send a postcard from Alaska to Florida for 28 cents, either.
       
      You don't know that because right now they are forbidden by law to do so.

      What is the real cost of sending that postcard? Of course if you carried just that one postcard by a special flight it would be thousands of dollars, but that's not how it works. A better question is what is the cost of delivering all the postcards in the US divided by the number of postcards? In any case, the real cost of something is the real cost, it can't be avoided. If it costs 48c to send that postcard you can't magically make it 28c by regulation. The cost is just shifted somewhere else, it still has to be paid by someone.

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    4. Re:Insilvent? So what? by rolfwind · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Hell no. America has an amazingly secure post system. You rarely have mail stolen (an enforced Federal Crime, USPS have Postal Inspectors that are very good at their job and I say this with personal experience). I know privatized systems in other countries -- THEY SUCK. Stolen packages, no accounting (everyone passes the buck, etc) while Postal workers are people THAT will most likely work there next year, with a good benefits, and do care if they lose their job or pension.

      Cut some service, close down some unnecessary offices (I know a few miles from each other) and do some other tweaks. But the PO is Constitutionally mandated service, and it's ridiculous to get rid of it when all it needs are tweaks.

    5. Re:Insilvent? So what? by Korin43 · · Score: 2

      Surely the people of the US don't want to be without a postal service?

      Is it really that big of a deal?

      • Junk mail - Finally we can get rid of this.
      • Post cards - Sad to lose, but not really the government's problem.
      • Letters - Important letters could still be sent by UPS/Fedex. It would be more expensive, but I suspect without the USPS, they would offer something comparable to normal mail (no doubt it would be more expensive). All of those businesses that send you pointless letters all the time (TV/internet service, banks, etc) would suddenly have a huge incentive to convince people to accept them in email form (less waste).
      • Packages - Fedex and UPS already do this. They're more expensive, but pouring money into the USPS via taxes just hides the real price.

      We wouldn't be without postal service, we'd just be without government postal service.

    6. Re:Insilvent? So what? by tyen · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You rarely have mail stolen...

      This should be emphasized. I visited a gold mine in the US once. Was astounded when they told us they mail their raw ingots (that contain gold, silver and platinum all mixed together) to their refiner by USPS. They matter-of-factly told us that only USPS had the kind of government-force-backed security and guarantees that made transporting around >$100K bars every day feasible.

    7. Re:Insilvent? So what? by clarkkent09 · · Score: 2

      Citation needed. From personal experience just in the last year, I've had my mail stolen once, I received other people's mail several times and I failed to receive some mail that I know was sent - probably delivered wrongly to god knows whom. Meanwhile, going to the post office is one of the most dreaded things for me because it ALWAYS means waiting in line for at least an hour and dealing with employees there who are understaffed, overwhelmed by the number of angry customers, demoralized and rude. I can't think of a private business that has the same problems.

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    8. Re:Insilvent? So what? by demonlapin · · Score: 4, Informative

      The jewelry industry uses registered mail for the same purpose.

    9. Re:Insilvent? So what? by transami · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The only reason they are loosing money is b/c Congress won't let them raise prices to what they need to be. Look at the USPS 2009 annual report, the first page brags about being the cheapest postal service in the world. So is it any wonder they are loosing money? If they raised the price of a stamp just 5 cents they'd be in the black again.

      No doubt, lobbyists from Fedex and UPS are paying off our politicians to sabotage the USPS. First they will get rid of Saturday delivery, which, contrary to the stated reasons for it, will actually further erode their bottom line. That will ultimately lead to full privatization. Shortly after that happens expect the cost of mailing a letter to quickly approach 10 times of what it costs today in order to pay massive executive bonuses and shareholder dividends.

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    10. Re:Insilvent? So what? by zach_the_lizard · · Score: 2

      You screw up the company, it dies, and you no longer get paid. You do poorly, you get fires, you don't get paid. There's all the motivation there.

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    11. Re:Insilvent? So what? by segedunum · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I see a lot of people roll out the usual Milton Friedman 'Privatise it!' option to everything, but I'm afraid that a lot of private delivery firms just do not see it as cost effective to deliver to a lot of, mainly rural, areas. It's the same thing here in the UK with the Royal Mail. No matter how much anyone talks about privatisation you can always bet that there will be government subsidies needed to fill the gap needed, because you can't have a functioning economy and communities without some kind of postal service unless you tell everyone to move to areas that delivery firms find cost effective. I can't see that being an option.

      When you subsidise private firms to provide a service they don't really want to provide then you get something far worse than anything the government could run itself. It simply doesn't work.

    12. Re:Insilvent? So what? by MokuMokuRyoushi · · Score: 2

      I've had the opposite experience. The local USPS workers are pretty friendly, prompt on the job, and the only time they've misplaced my mail was a special scenario(to my business address; the new postal guy didn't know that my mailbox was no longer in use, long story). That said, I work from a small town where they wouldn't be overwhelmed easily. I'm guessing you're in a more metro area, and so I think it's understandable(though still a problem) that the workers would be demoralized or quicker to anger if they themselves were surrounded by angry people.

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    13. Re:Insilvent? So what? by clarkkent09 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Psychologists should be writing books about this kind of thinking, it really is something and it is so common as well. Let me rephrase what you just said so it's more clear: Government causes trouble, in this case by not allowing USPS to raise rates to a realistic level. Why is that so? Presumably out of some misguided altruistic motives, so that poor people can afford to send mail etc or at least because that way it appears that they care more about the poor and all that crap, but lets assume for a moment that you are correct and it is because they are bribed by the businesses. Where is the real problem? With the fact that the government officials accept bribes or with the businessmen who bribe them? Lets say the government has the power to affect business in a dramatic way through regulation (as it does), it is corrupt (it is) and it is willing to accept bribes to help one company or another. If you are an honest businessman who refuses to pay bribes (like Rearden in Atlas Shrugged) you will pretty soon be buried by your competitors who reap all the advantages of having powerful politicians on their side. Pretty soon there will be no more businessmen who are honest because the environment created by the government power makes that impossible.

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    14. Re:Insilvent? So what? by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2

      Never worked for the government, eh? Getting fired from a civil service job is almost impossible. You pretty much have to do something like set the place on fire or shoot up your co-workers before they'll fire you.

    15. Re:Insilvent? So what? by crunchygranola · · Score: 5, Informative

      You rarely have mail stolen...

      This should be emphasized....

      And the government sends secret documents by the U.S. Postal Service.

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    16. Re:Insilvent? So what? by zellfaze · · Score: 2

      The courts also use the postal service. It is indeed the best way to move things. You can get in a lot of trouble for trying to screw with other people's mail.

    17. Re:Insilvent? So what? by tibit · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Perhaps that's part of the problem with USPS: a vastly over-the-top type of service -- it can hardly be cheap. I do understand that such service is good to have, but it should come at a hefty price. I presume that plenty of private companies would be glad to ship $100K bars around for 1% of their value. USPS can't profitably offer that service for anything less, yet they do precisely that. All that government-backed-security costs lots of money. It's not free just because it's law, enforcement costs real dollars.

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    18. Re:Insilvent? So what? by jrumney · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Where's my interest in saving you some money?

      Food prices.

    19. Re:Insilvent? So what? by edumacator · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Right. And then they would say, I'm not going to spend my money delivering to those people out in the country. The postal service has the responsibility to deliver to every region of the country. A private company doesn't have the same responsibility. We could make it a prerequisite for whoever wins the contract, but then they would raise the prices significantly.

    20. Re:Insilvent? So what? by zach_the_lizard · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Except in government, your revenue stream does not depend on pleasing the customer, so you can fail as long as you like, and still maintain the same level of income (or greater).

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    21. Re:Insilvent? So what? by rtb61 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Wake up. Do you want you post delivered as cheaply as possible or do you want you postal service to be a profitable as possible, you can not have both, profit you fool comes from gouging the consumers pocket.

      Government services attempt to provide as much service as possible whilst charging as little as possible, sometimes resulting losses. Corporations attempt to provide as little service as possible whilst charging as much as possible for it, often resulting in multimillion dollar bonuses for corporate executives. Competition is what corporation strive to cripple by forming cartel, buy buying out the opposition and then ramping up prices to pay for it, by lying to consumers, by lobbying for reduced worker rights, by not paying tax, by seeking corporate welfare from the local, state and federal government.

      So more efficient letter carriage, drop Saturday deliveries, drop pick up of mail from letter box have localised post boxes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_box, just those simply changes will substantively reduce cost. Of course it you really want to do what a for profit corporation would do, simply drop all postal services to rural areas unless they are willing to pay substantially more for the service.

      As for corporations as far as they are concerned your money is their money and they will and do lie, cheat and steal to 'er' recover it.

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    22. Re:Insilvent? So what? by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah, why should they have running water and electricity, those filthy hillbillies! Let them shit in buckets and use candles! Oh wait a tick, could it be that increasingly the US government, as well as the states, are moving everything online because it is cheaper than printing and mailing crap, not to mention dealing with the sorting and filing of said crap?

      If you wanted to cut a day or two out of mailing letters fine, but I just had to help a nephew fill out all the paperwork for him to start college. We are talking tons of electronic forms and PDF and tons of other eCrap that with dialup would have been frankly impossible to accomplish. That of course doesn't count the fact that having an infrastructure that isn't from the fricking stone age opens up all kinds of new opportunities, like using Netflix instead of blowing through gas going to the nearest Redbox, eLearning and other ways to better yourself like virtual classrooms, and the ability top start new businesses and save on greenhouse gases by the way of eCommerce and Telecommuting.

      So lets please step off the "corporation yay!" bandwagon for a minute, shall we? We have been kissing the telecoms booties here in the USA for damned near 30 years now, and even our largest cities have broadband speeds that are honestly shameful compared to the rest of the planet, and much of our rural areas have land lines laid down when fricking Ike was president. If we wait for the "free market" in the case of nationwide broadband we will ALL end up on the short bus to crappytown, left behind while the world advances, while all we will have to show for it is some crappy quality Youtube videos of Telecom CEOs snorting coke off of $1000 hooker asses while having their balls tickled with $100 bills. It is time we treat broadband no different that electricity or water, take the last mile AWAY from the telecoms by laying OUR OWN LINES, and then if they want to compete they can get off their asses and offer better service for less money. That is what the free market is supposed to be about, competition, right?

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    23. Re:Insilvent? So what? by sjames · · Score: 4, Informative

      I have never had USPS gore my package with a forklift and then try to tell me it was "inadequately packed" so they won't be paying the insurance claim. I can't say the same for other carriers.

    24. Re:Insilvent? So what? by Kjella · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Right. And then they would say, I'm not going to spend my money delivering to those people out in the country. The postal service has the responsibility to deliver to every region of the country. A private company doesn't have the same responsibility. We could make it a prerequisite for whoever wins the contract, but then they would raise the prices significantly.

      Which would then prove that the USPS is an effective organization, that has just been given an expensive mission then? Sure you can get a system that costs half what the USPS does but only does half too, seriously if private companies can't compete in an apples-to-apples bid to take over what's the point? What is wrong with the government negotiating a SLA on behalf of the people of what is to be delivered? These are our requirements. These are our penalties for failing to meet those requirements. Seriously, I've never understood the US on this, giving it all to one company then letting them have free reign is just to ask people to lube up and bend over. Most every such regulated industry here in Norway has strings attached, which is considered fair as long as all bidders compete under the same conditions.

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  2. Simple Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The easiest thing to do would be to greatly increase the rate for "Junk Mail" (4th class mail or whatever they call it). That "bulk rate pre-metered" stuff that costs next to nothing for a business to send, but still must be routed and delivered just like the payments I mail. I just throw it all away, and I imagine most people do the same. If it is really worth it to send, companies can pay closer to what the normal public pays. This would reduce the annoyance for folks at home while lowering the volume of mail (and raising the per item profit).

    1. Re:Simple Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They've got to be very careful; most of their revenue comes from bulk mail right now. If they destroy that market, they'll be insolvent much faster. A small increase in the cost of bulk mail might be survivable; a large increase will make bulk mail unaffordable for the local pizza place, which will quit using it, leaving the postal service much further in the hole. They'd do much better by being in grocery or prescription delivery service in a large way, like cheap next day delivery of refills from your local pharmacies.

    2. Re:Simple Solution by Fluffeh · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That "bulk rate pre-metered" stuff that costs next to nothing for a business to send, but still must be routed and delivered just like the payments I mail.

      That might not actually be the right approach. If the postal service has to make the trip anyway, this bulk stuff can be delivered pretty much when they please. It might actually be making the most profit for them. The standard mail needs to be delivered on time, so the truck is already making the trip around - why not just pump some trash mail into your mailbox at the same time?

      It might not be profitable to do those runs as a trip on its own, but I can't imagine that there is a lot of extra cost when pushing three envelopes into a mailbox rather than just one - meaning that carrying all those extra envelopes is almost pure profit.

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    3. Re:Simple Solution by Korin43 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I was under the impression that junk mail was how the USPS made all of its money already. I suspect they've carefully considered the rates for it.

  3. Letter volume? What letter volume? by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 2

    The postal service is going to be insolvent because the service they provide isn't worth the cost. If it was, people would pay a higher price for it. At the time that the constitution was written, it was pretty much the state of the art communication channel and it made some sense for it to be singled out as necessary along with post roads etc. Today, things are different. Most people don't use snail mail to communicate so it doesn't make sense to keep it the way it is. The modern day equivalent of the postal service's role in the late 1700's is broadband last mile infrastructure.

    A few years back in the employ of one of the big-5 consultancies, I proposed a virtual post office box system for Australia Post. Nice option for the user, a single PO box that just had a permanent re-direct to wherever the person lived at the moment. Proposal got all the way up to the exec.

    "Great idea! But letter volume has gone down the toilet. Thank you for coming."

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  4. Wrong by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ravnitzky suggests a variety of useful data that could be gathered by postal trucks outfitted with sensors:

    detailed weather readings,

    Once a day? Not useful at all. There are already tens of thousands of automated weather stations scattered across the country - I bet the author isn't aware of that.

    road conditions during storms

    I don't see a detailed record of how road conditions are, once a day, on mostly minor roads would help - and the state police already do this for major highways.

    road quality (e.g. pothole)

    This is not particularly transient - just ask the carriers to phone them in.

    gaps in cellular network coverage, sources of radio frequency interference

    Um... I don't see the market case, but maybe this one is at least plausible.

    and in a homeland security context, detection of chemical or radiological agents.

    Again - once a day?

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  5. Homeland security? by Sketchly · · Score: 2

    "detection of chemical or radiological agents"??? like, someone could detonate a nuclear bomb in NYC and no-one would notice except the postman?

  6. Better business plan? by Moof123 · · Score: 2

    -Evening hours to make it easier to ship (i.e. easier to hand them MONEY!)

    -Drop Tuesday/Thursday mail delivery.

    -Switch to Hybrid trucks, as their driving habits are about as ideal as it comes for a hybrid rig (low speed, lots of start/stop driving).

    -Offer a "Spam" blocker service as a subscription to stop junk mail for a fee.

    -Make their package tracking actually track packages, not just magically go from "In Transit" to "Delivered".

    -Contract with Google to put cameras on top for nearly daily updates to Google Maps Streetview.

    More distopian:

    -Use lobbyists to subvert things so that email/online cannot be legally used to conduct business.

    -Figure out how to be another "Too Big To Fail" organization.

  7. NO MORE PAPER CRAP ADS! by techhead79 · · Score: 2

    Why don't they charge 5x more for advertisements? I get these crap coupon wads of paper like three times a week and it all goes right into the trash. Not to mention the dumb ass Charter love letters begging me to come back. I don't want my inbox or mailbox stuffed full of advertisements. We can't stop spam so we should at least be able to stop the snail mail right?

  8. Get Congress Out of The Mix by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 2

    The problem with the USPS is that it while it is not funded by the Federal Government, it is controlled by it. This quasi-enterprise status is completely impractical.

    To illustrate the issue the USPS has massive overcapacity for the service level it provides. Any business faced with this would consolidate or downsize in order to save money. Unfortunately Congress won't let them do it. Any time the USPS wants to close a branch, the people living in the immediate area protest to their Congresscritter who then blocks it. The result is gross inefficiency.

    If it were possible to slap the Congress upside the head on this issue the USPS would have a chance. Right now it doesn't.

  9. That's Already How It Works! by waldoj · · Score: 4, Informative

    Congratulations, you've just described exactly how the USPS works.

    Bajillions of people who live in rural areas (like me) pick up their mail at the post office, because the cost of delivery to their homes is prohibitive. Universal service is not, in fact, universal, and never has been. Even UPS won't deliver to my house—I've got to pick up their packages at the post office (!), too.

    Also, your example is ludicrous. Have you ever heard of a house so isolated that it's in a "neighborhood" (?) five miles away and yet, mysteriously, this five-mile-long stretch of road, devoid of any homes or businesses, has a 20 MPH speed limit on its road? Because I can't summon any scenario in which that would be the case.

  10. Re:sigh slashdot by crunchygranola · · Score: 2

    The post office is going to lose money because unlike UPS, they can't raise rates. They have to visit everyone's house 6 days a week.

    It's actually a very very efficient organization. It's the constraints put upon it that make it so that it loses money. Congress won't allow this cost saving, Congress won't allow to cut service. Congress won't allow it to raise rates.

    ...

    Actually it has made profits fairly consistently in the past, it posted a profit of $910 million in 2006. Since then it has taken it on the chin with the economy, and - as you note - the refusal of Congress to allow cost reductions or raising rates to allow it to adapt.

    Any number of service cut backs that a private company would make in a heartbeat can restore it to profitability, as can appropriate rate increases.

    It is a highly efficient operation - you cannot find another postal system in the world that does better.

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  11. They're not losing money by perpetual+pessimist · · Score: 4, Interesting
    From the postal service's own Inspector General report:

    The following paper demonstrates that the current system of funding the Postal Service’s Civil Service Retirement System pension responsibility is inequitable and has resulted in the Postal Service overpaying $75 billion to the pension fund.

    The postal service is having money extracted from it each year, channeled to other parts of the federal government pension systems (mostly military). This is to help disguise how bad the federal budget is overdrawn. If the post office were allowed to fund their peoples' pensions the way every other government agency is, they'd be showing a profit.

  12. Re:Uhm... by Genda · · Score: 2

    Don't you think this point of view is just a wee bit convoluted... I mean its all your tax dollars, whether or not its the USPS or some other government agency choosing to foot the bill.

    Determine if this is indeed a viable side business (and I assert it is). The fleet of USPS vehicles is potentially a superb resource because they travel to virtually all roads and to every person who receives mail at a mailbox once a day. Collecting sensor and (broad spectrum) photographic information, could prove useful for anything from locating "Gang Bangers" to analyzing the effects of climate change on native vegetation. Such a bank of environmental information would certainly become an invaluable resource. Since the information is collected on the "People's Dime", the information should belong to the people and be made available to government agencies, businesses, schools, and private citizens. As well the privacy and security of "The People" must be secured whenever possible, so as to limit access to people, or their residences to extraordinary circumstances with extensive legal checks and balances. Having this much information collected about John Q. Public's day to day existence would necessitate some kind of extensive policy on the collection and utilization of third party public information (i.e. business video, phone and Wifi interception, urban microphones, aerial and satellite surveillance of public spaces, etc.) To date this collection has been heavily weighted to the benefit of business and government, and against common privacy. The nation needs to address this now before things spiral completely out of control (and the wholesale convincing of the American people to abdicate their civil rights by shaking the terrorist boogie-man at them "booga-booga" needs to come to a crashing halt!!!)

    The goal should be to obtain the value and power of an accurate, timely, and comprehensive national data-set, without giving Big Brother the keys to the kingdom. In the end, the only issue is what value does this information provide, what with it cost us in time, money and most of all personal privacy. As a distant incentive, it might make the USPS a viable business venture, but it hardly seems significant considering the titanic social issues concerned.

  13. Re:Privacy concerns by DavidTC · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually, no.

    The post office can deliver onto private property.

    In fact, believe it or not, it can't be kept out by property owners if a resident wants their mail delivered somewhere. If someone wants their mail delivered inside of a locked apartment building, or even a college dorm that doesn't allow non-residents, and the post office wants to deliver there, the owner of the building cannot keep them out.

    In short, if they have a letter for you, and you want them to deliver it to you at a location, and they want to deliver it at that location, they technically can demand to be let through whatever locked doors they want to deliver it to that location, regardless of whose property that is.

    This is all mostly moot because the post office doesn't want to deliver mail in such a manner, though, that would be insane. It will often demand that people put up mailboxes on the public right away if they want delivery, and would certainly look long and hard before deciding to deliver mail on private property against someone's wishes.

    But it raises an interesting legal point if postal employees are used for anything else while delivering mail.

    But we're talking about putting them on postal vehicles, which operate 99.99999% on public roads, and it would be a simple matter to leave them off any vehicles that leave them.

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  14. Re:Uhm... by Grishnakh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A couple of things: First, it's not your tax dollars, the USPS is not a full government agency, it's quasi-government. It's basically a private company that's wholly owned by the government, but receives no funding whatsoever and has to be self-sustaining.

    Second, the USPS is already a viable business venture, except that stupid Congress keeps getting in the way. For instance, one of the reasons they're having problems now is because they need to adjust to the new market realities: the internet is taking over, and people aren't sending letters any more, so with less mail going around, it's not economical to send drivers around to every single address every day without a large enough volume of mail to deliver. This problem could be easily solved: simply cut out one or two days of deliveries (except for Express mail). However, they're not allowed to do that, because stupid Congress has mandated that they deliver mail 6 days out of the week.

    The USPS needs to concentrate on the things it does well: it's a reliable way of getting things around for low cost, as long as you're not in too big a hurry. No one's going to miss receiving junk mail on Saturdays or Wednesdays (two days that could be cut). It's good for bulk mail, and also for small packages, now that people are ordering more and more stuff online. You're also more likely to receive your goods intact, as a recent Popular Mechanics article found that, in an experiment, the USPS treated packages far better than Fedex or UPS, who both subjected packages to much larger shocks, and also intentionally beat up packages marked "Fragile". The USPS just needs to concentrate on providing good, cheap, but not necessarily fast service, which is what most people want these days, and they'll be fine.

  15. Let me pay to NOT have my mail delivered by joeaguy · · Score: 2

    I have had this idea for a long time for the postal service to both make and save money. I would pay a small monthly fee for the post office to NOT deliver my mail.

    Specifically, I want a virtual PO Box. All my mail would go to a processing center where the front and back of each item is scanned, OCRed, and placed on a web site where I can look at it all. I can then direct them to send or shred any individual item. Because the return address, etc, is OCRed, I can also set up filters for mail I want automatically delivered, like bills.

    I don't have the deal with the hassle of sorting through and recycling junk mail, the post office makes some extra money, and they save money by having to deliver less mail. Direct marketers might not like it, but maybe they could be notified of send or shred decisions and can use it to help cull their mailing lists.

  16. USPS is a jewel by bayankaran · · Score: 2

    USPS is a world class organization. Nonsensical privatization or selling off, or unnecessary opening up will kill one of the best institutions of USA. I have used Postal Services in USA, Japan, Canada, India, UK and many other countries. The level of service and professionalism of USPS is world class.

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  17. Re:Uhm... by DavidTC · · Score: 2

    Serious question: What's this? [usps.com] A lot of people say the USPS is totally self-funded but then why do they request funding from Congress every year? Is that considered a separate organization within the USPS or something?

    The blind and oversea voting and Revenue Forgone Reform Act (Which is lower postal rates for charities) are stuff that, for whatever reason, Congress has decided the post office should do for free or cheap, and Congress pays them each year for that. The Post Office is only self-supporting for normal stuff, Congress had it do charity work that Congress pays for.

    The 'reconciliation' stuff is them getting their money back from money they had left over at the end of previous years and 'loaned' to the government. Presumably because there's a recession and it needs the money because profits are down. And, as the article points out, it doesn't have a lot money left 'in the bank'.

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