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Labor Lockout Lingers At Honeywell Nuclear Plant

Hugh Pickens writes "Federal News Radio reports that in Metropolis, Illinois, the nation's only site for refining uranium for eventual use in nuclear power plants, some 230 union workers locked out by the company since last June take turns picketing and warning of possible toxic releases into the community while they're not at their jobs. Even in better times, the plant has been a source of concern. In September 2003, toxic hydrogen fluoride was released in an accident. Three months later, seepage of mildly radioactive gas sent four people to the hospital and prompted the evacuation of nearby residents. Now a recent safety inspection by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission found that temporary workers brought in by Honeywell weren't properly trained and were cheating on tests, and that Honeywell had neglected to report liquids that were released into the air. Metropolis' troubles began last spring when efforts to negotiate a new contract broke down at the Honeywell plant. Honeywell opted not to let the union employees work without a contract, citing the lack of bargaining progress and what it called the union's refusal to agree to provide 24 hours of notice before any strike."

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  1. Coverage? by Trip6 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Locked out since June? This seems newsworthy to me, where is the lame stream media on this story?

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    1. Re:Coverage? by delirium+of+disorder · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you want good reporting on labor from anything but a business perspective (ie how will this effect share value), you have to look at the media of the labor movement itself, not the corporate owned and controlled mainstream media. On the Metropolis Honeywell workers in particular, I suggest these two episodes of Labor Express radio. Another good source for labor news is the Industrial Worker, the paper of the IWW.

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    2. Re:Coverage? by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sounds like a job for... SUPERMAN!

    3. Re:Coverage? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not disregard, just take in multiple sources and evaluate the truth for yourself.

      Sure, unions have issues with corruption (just like every organization of humans ever), but sometimes--perhaps this case is an example--sometimes they actually do fight injustice.

    4. Re:Coverage? by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think he may have suggested that you look at both sides and make up your own mind.

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    5. Re:Coverage? by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Doesn't take a conspiracy to notice that its "only" 200 temporarily locked out, in an era of multi-thousand permanent downsizings everywhere else.

      Except maybe the tiny fact that these 230 workers are being locked out of a nuclear plant with a less than stellar safety record. Who's monitoring the radioactive materials during this lockout?

      Funny the government can prevent a union from striking if the industry is considered too important to our nation's infrastructure (eg. Railroads, Air Traffic Controllers), but this same government won't get involved in a labor dispute that may put a community at risk like at a nuclear plant. Funny how government intervention seems to favor the employer and not the employees.

      Is that contraversial enough for you?

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    6. Re:Coverage? by vlm · · Score: 4, Informative

      Doesn't take a conspiracy to notice that its "only" 200 temporarily locked out, in an era of multi-thousand permanent downsizings everywhere else.

      Except maybe the tiny fact that these 230 workers are being locked out of a nuclear plant with a less than stellar safety record. Who's monitoring the radioactive materials during this lockout?

      You fell for the advertising. Sorry. Don't feel bad, a lot of people are paid a lot of money to trick people like you.

      This plant just converts semi-refined ore into refined fuel. Before its cooked in the reactor, reactor fuel is about as radioactive and harmful as granite. The Co-60 and Sr-90 and other nasties come from fission, not a fuel for fission. There is no serious radioactive danger from the plant, at least compared to other substances in the plant, such as HF.

      The biggest problem they have is containment of hydrofluoric acid. Apparently they have a quite an astounding safety violation history. F-ing bucket chemists. However, that stuff doesn't just leap out of the carboy like a caged animal and burrow into your groundwater, it requires a tech at the lab bench to screw up. Whom by definition is not there during a lockout.

      We're not talking about locking the workers out of three mile island during the meltdown. Some of the (paid) clowns in the media trying to rile things up, they might be talking about that, or as close as they can get without libel / slander suits, but that does not by any means make it true.

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    7. Re:Coverage? by psm321 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How about quoting the whole sentence instead of selectively picking the part that makes your point?

      If you want good reporting on labor from anything but a business perspective (ie how will this effect share value), you have to look at the media of the labor movement itself, not the corporate owned and controlled mainstream media.

  2. Reminds me something... by Jimpqfly · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Everything is under control, our main Technical Adviser is Homer Simpson."

  3. My Slim Annecdotal Evidence Confirms... by BoRegardless · · Score: 3, Informative

    Honeywell didn't train the guys who came to my business to repair the alarm system (they later sold their alarm business).

    People showed up with no testing equipment to check for open lines, bad connections, etc.

    1. Re:My Slim Annecdotal Evidence Confirms... by azalin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If Honeywell dares to employ untrained/unqualified people in a nuclear power plant they should be prosecuted. And sued. Into oblivion.
      I would suggest that every company running potentially dangerous factories should be forced to place their ceo's offices and shareholder meetings directly downwind from said facility.
      Where is the FBI when you need them?

  4. Metropolis in trouble? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Funny
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  5. Re:Unions in nuclear power industry is a bad combo by tangelogee · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yea, we really need that slavery thing back in order to be able to run things profitably.

    If the unions did what they were intended to do, instead of make the process as expensive and cumbersome as possible, I might agree with you.

  6. Re:Unions in nuclear power industry is a bad combo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's actually the worst of both worlds.

    When (not if) left unchecked, greedy business owners will generally do shit that endangers the people.
    When (not if) left unchecked, lazy unions will lower the drive for greatness while costing a shitload of money.
    When (not if) left unchecked, government will pretty much screw up anything it touches.

    In short, everybody is wrong and there's nothing we can do about it (aside from sitting back, cracking open a cold one, and watching the shit hit the fan). Anyone who tries to convince me different is probably just a shill for the left/right/center/green/pastafarian/anarchist/communist/socialist/libertarian/torry/whig/no-nothing/log-cabin movement(s),

  7. Re:Unions in nuclear power industry is a bad combo by delirium+of+disorder · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Union workplaces are, statistically speaking, much safer than non-union workplaces in the same and related industries. When you have a collective bargaining agreement, job security, and an explicit grievance procedure, you aren't afraid to report and fix safety problems. When you're non-union, you have no representation, are underpaid, and can loose your job at any time, so you won't stick your neck out for safety. I would most certainly prefer that nuclear workers (or any power-plant workers for that matter), be union.

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  8. Re:Have every last one of them declared terrorists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The workers didn't choose to quit.

    The employer unilaterally decided the workers weren't worth their pay, and isn't letting them come back to work until they capitulate and give the employer everything they want. The people in charge are playing hostage games, not the people who were staffing the plant.

  9. Take a guess... by damn_registrars · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Locked out since June? This seems newsworthy to me, where is the lame stream media on this story?

    Hmmm. Union workers are locked out of their jobs by their employer. I wonder why that didn't make the news, when any case of a union considering a vote on talking about thinking about announcing the possibility of maybe polling to take a vote on a half-day strike makes the news immediately?

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    1. Re:Take a guess... by Richard_at_work · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I see benefit in collective bargaining, but I am against unions as they have made themselves today.

      I dislike the fact that in quite a few places if a union gets in at your work place you have to join or quit - you cannot remain outside of the collective agreement and retain your job.

      I dislike the fact that in quite a few places a union can call a unionization vote year after year after year until they get in.

      I dislike the fact that in quite a few places unionization can stagnate a workforce rather than improve it - seniority based on nothing more than time spent in the job, rather than merit based seniority? What rubbish.

      I dislike the fact that the unionized workforce can withdraw their labour at any time, by following certain rules, while the employer has no equal ability - they have to wait until the contract is no longer in force before they have the right to lock out the workforce, while the union can call strike action whenever it likes.

      I have seen far far too many examples of unions being the worst of two choices for all involved, I have seen far far too many examples of unions seeking to simply hurt the employer because the employer wouldn't give in to their demands lock stock and barrel.

      I'm not an employer, I'm a 31 year old software developer. I have no stake in unions other than my opinion, but what I have seen of modern unions I have, largely, disliked to the extreme.

      Maybe I've been improperly influenced by my exposure to union actions (largely the aviation industries woes over the past few years, as aviation is a personal interest of mine - British Airways issues with Unite are particularly disgusting imho), but then I see the same issues outside of my particular circle of interest, so I don't think its that.

      And no, I'm not saying its all the workers fault, but their union certainly did fail to come to an agreement, so its not all the employers fault either.

    2. Re:Take a guess... by delirium+of+disorder · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's a bit misleading.

      I see benefit in collective bargaining, but I am against unions as they have made themselves today.
      Why not support unions that are more democratic than the traditional unions? The UE and the IWW are member run and as democratic as possible.

      you cannot remain outside of the collective agreement and retain your job.
      In most of the US you don't have to join a union to work in a union shop. Now, you have to pay the same costs as dues to support the infrastructure (stewards, negotiators, etc) that benefits you, but you don't have to actually join the union.

      I dislike the fact that in quite a few places a union can call a unionization vote year after year after year until they get in.
      Sounds like democracy to me. Hell, why not have automatic elections every year for ALL workplaces where workers can choose which, if any, union they wish to join?

      the union can call strike action whenever it likes.
      Almost every union contract has a no-strike clause. Strikes tend to happen before a contract (strike for recognition), or after a contract expires.

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    3. Re:Take a guess... by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A little free advice for you here - don't feed that troll. The slashdot conservative mantra around here is "unionz iz teh evol!" and is repeated ad nauseum even when it doesn't relate to the situation. You won't get the conservatives to believe otherwise, regardless of the mountains of evidence you put in front of them; their very existence pivots on that assumption and they can't stand to consider it being even the slightest bit wrong.

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    4. Re:Take a guess... by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I see benefit in collective bargaining, but I am against unions as they have made themselves today.

      I dislike the fact that in quite a few places if a union gets in at your work place you have to join or quit - you cannot remain outside of the collective agreement and retain your job.

      A lot of states, including the one I live in, has laws in place that establishes that all shops shall be "open" shops. This means that membership in a union can never be a requirement for a job.

      I dislike the fact that in quite a few places a union can call a unionization vote year after year after year until they get in.

      The workers are allowed to vote no each and every time. Most of these yearly votes are due to a few disgruntled workers trying to "stick it to the man" and inviting union organizers to meet with the rest of the work force. The work force can still vote no.

      I dislike the fact that in quite a few places unionization can stagnate a workforce rather than improve it - seniority based on nothing more than time spent in the job, rather than merit based seniority? What rubbish.

      Like it or not this protects more innocent workers than bad. If the employee was not performing his duties well enough then he should have been fired a long time ago. However, a senior employee is more expensive than a new hire so this rule is to prevent economic incentive from being the sole reason for ending an employee's career at a plant.

      I dislike the fact that the unionized workforce can withdraw their labour at any time, by following certain rules, while the employer has no equal ability - they have to wait until the contract is no longer in force before they have the right to lock out the workforce, while the union can call strike action whenever it likes.

      Not entirely true. Labor has to hold up their end of the collective bargain. An employer can lock out the workforce if there is enough evidence that labor isn't honoring the contract. But you are right, there are a few restrictive contracts that USED to exist that gave workers too much power. Economic realities have forced both sides of the agreement to make compromises. A local union used to have a rule against training for multiple job titles, which meant that if a person didn't show up for work the rest of the manufacturing shift couldn't fill in for the missing worker. That rule hasn't existed in their contract for at least a decade.

      On the other end of the spectrum, we have state laws that are ironically named "Right to Work" laws. These laws give the employer the right to fire any employee for any reason with the exception of reasons that unlawfully discriminate against the worker. To make matters worse, the employers in my state are not required to disclose the reason for the termination. This provides legal cover.

      I have seen far far too many examples of unions being the worst of two choices for all involved, I have seen far far too many examples of unions seeking to simply hurt the employer because the employer wouldn't give in to their demands lock stock and barrel.

      So have I, and this isn't necessarily a bad thing. This hurts the union workers more than the company. The company will simply move its plant somewhere else. The union's freedom to determine their working conditions isn't guaranteed to be risk free. This in theory should keep them honest. If the employer can't pull up stakes and take their business elsewhere what incentive is there that keeps the unions "honest"?

      Companies risk paying too much for labor and Labor risk asking too much from companies. The point of collective bargaining is to establish a balance between the two. There needs to be a risk associated with giving too much to one side in order to incentivize the negotiations. Otherwise why bother?

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  10. What they do there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    They convert uranium ore -- usually in the form of uranium oxides ("yellow cake") -- into uranium hexafluoride by eventually dissolving it in hydrofluoric acid. That gas is then what gets run through centrifuges or gas diffusion plants to isotopically enrich the U-235. So, it's a lot of messy chemistry (see links) with mildly radioactive materials (uranium isn't strongly radioactive). HF is particularly nasty because although it is a weak acid it reacts with almost anything and it is quite toxic.

  11. Re:Have every last one of them declared terrorists by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wrong. The employer is playing hardball and chose to lockout the employees. They could have agreed to continue working without a contract but still under the old contract terms until an agreement is reached for a new contract.

    Someone needs to look up what "locked out" means.

    I'm not assuming that the union workers are being reasonable. I just think that placing blame solely on the unions and make an argument against their existence is just as much bullshit as to blindly accept everything a union says as gospel. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

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  12. Re:Unions in nuclear power industry is a bad combo by delirium+of+disorder · · Score: 5, Informative

    [Citation Needed]
    OK Here's some data:
    Herbert Abrams’ Short history of occupational health, published in the Journal
    of Public Health Policy, says: “It is important to recognize that throughout the often
    tragic history of worker health and disease, the worker played a primary role as the basis
    of every significant improvement in legislation, factory inspection, compensation,
    correction, and prevention.”

    Abrams concludes: “Labour unrest, protests, strikes, lawsuits, and catastrophes were vital
    catalysts in obtaining action. Organized labour has been the essential factor central to
    most workplace health and safety improvements, from the industrial revolution to the
    present.”

    The Canadian Labour Congress cites a 1993 study done for the Canadian Ministries of
    Labour which concludes that union-supported health and safety committees have a
    significant "impact in reducing injury rates".

    Later studies for the Ontario Workplace Health and Safety Agency “found that 78-79 per
    cent of unionized workplaces reported high compliance with health and safety legislation
    while only 54-61 per cent of non-unionized workplaces reported such compliance.”

    But this isn’t a Canadian phenomenon. US academic Adam Seth Litwin, then with the London School of Economics,
    concluded in a review last year of health and safety in UK workplaces that unions
    dramatically improve safety in even the most hazardous workplaces.
    A non-union office worker was, by Litwin’s calculations, 13 times more likely to suffer
    an injury than was a closed-shop union worker on an industrial assembly line.

    Even in the US, with a relatively low unionization level of 13 per cent, the effect can be
    seen. A 1991 study, using US data, concluded that unions dramatically increased
    enforcement of the Occupational Safety and Health Act in the manufacturing sector.
    Unionized firms had a higher probability of having a health and safety inspection, and
    their inspections tended to be more probing, as employees exercised their “walkaround
    rights” — the right to accompany a government inspector during a workplace tour.

    A 1998 paper provides more evidence of the union safety effect. Researchers who
    surveyed over 400 industrial hygienists and safety engineers in New Jersey concluded
    “effective strategies for involving workers appear to be conditional on a number of
    variables, most importantly on worker activism and the effective use of formal
    negotiations.”
    The researchers, writing in the Journal of Public Health Policy, add: “Findings are
    consistent with studies from both the US and abroad which emphasize the role of unions
    in shaping opportunities for effective worker participation."

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  13. Re:Here's a video from the workers talking about i by royallthefourth · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm so angry for at the corporate world that pays me all year long

    You should be! The only way the shareholders make any money is by paying you less than the full value of your work and keeping the rest for themselves.