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WikiLeaks Continues To Fund Itself Via Flattr
novenator writes "Since the corporations MasterCard, PayPal, and Visa have been trying to shut down the cash flow to the Wikileaks project, those who wish to donate have been having trouble finding a way to help out. The social media/micropayment site Flattr (run from Sweden) continues to leave the channels open."
Can we stop posting every bit wikileaks minutiae and get back to real news for nerds?
wikileaks almost has nothing to do with tech anyways, and this tidbit is almost certainly not stuff that matters.
Is this a way of reminding people to donate ?
Go WikiLeaks! The Champion of Democracy and Freedom!!
And don't give me this "Freedom of speech" bull. Mastercard, Visa, PayPal, Amazon and many others who got DDOS'ed have the freedom of speech to shut down their services to anyone they choose to. After all, they are not the government corporation.
OR
Assange's legal fund?
As opposed to posting a link to another board that has am IMAGE of the url; (madness!!)
here ya go:
https://flattr.com/profile/wikileaks
Really editors, was that so hard? My new-years resolution? Find a site that is as good as Slashdot used to be.
"The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." ~Plato (427-347 BC)
It's amusing that some people believe they can get at an organisation like WikiLeaks by going after one man and putting pressure on every company imaginable not to do business with them. WikiLeaks will get donations regardless and if it's not WikiLeaks it will be something else. It's like no one has learned anything from the past ten or fifteen years.
How is it funding itself? Do they have $20 and continually re-donate it to their organization?
Let's deny you all credit cards, bank accounts, airline flights, all major store purchases, all corporate relations, because, well, just because the government said so, no arguments given, and see if you still call that a right any company has, and not a restriction of your freedoms, based on discrimination of some sort. Nobody has yet even accuse wikileaks of breaking any law. The data they publish was not acquired by them, and could have been published anywhere, in zillions of methods, including leaflets on street light poles, involving no computer or network of any kind.
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This is why I come to Slashdot. To stay current. We nerds need to be up-to-date.
... which is why a lot of even supposedly liberal governments are making noises on clamping down on certain parts of the internet. And yes , there are always ways around, but unless you're technical you won't find them or be able to use them so that rules them out for 99% of the population.
So way to go all you wikileaks people, nice own goal with the freedom thing there.
Oh , and ssshhh! We won't mention Assanges mind bogglingly hypocritical whinge about his case details being leaked...
Understand that Wikileaks hasn't leaked anything. They just published what was already leaked and which is what the New York Times and others have published in part so I wonder why MasterCard et al aren't doing the same thing to all the other media outlets that publish leaked info.
Maybe they all got a call from Lieberman's office or something.
Well , ok it uses technology - admittedly from 1991 - but I don't think thats quite what you meant.
And , what exactly is "open source thinking"? Other people get to peer into your mind and amend your thoughts for you if they don't look right? Isn't that what the CIA and KGB/FSB are supposed to do?
I think the more interesting point here, is that governments can strong-arm credit card companies to cut the funding for a Website that they don't like.
What happens if an influential large software company decides that it doesn't like an open source software site?
This is indeed news for nerds, and stuff that matters.
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I wonder why MasterCard et al aren't doing the same thing to all the other media outlets that publish leaked info. by troll -1 (956834)
on Tuesday December 21, @11:52AM (#34629774)
Because they're big enough and well-financed enough to beat the hell out of them is why. Bullies don't hassle entities that can punch their lights out. Hence, why wikileaks is being targetted - not big/powerful enough to fight back.
How about this link? Whats up with Mozambique, Kenya and Ethiopia?
Well , ok it uses technology - admittedly from 1991 - but I don't think thats quite what you meant.
And , what exactly is "open source thinking"?
The posting is not the technology part, it's the social impact part. The technology part is exercised by whoever acquired the documents, and the technical ability to keep the site free of attacks and running.
Open source thinking stands for giving everyone access to all information, for full transparency, whether that's inside the box, under the hood, under the table, behind the curtain, behind the firewall, but most especially, inside the secret dealings of corrupt, powerful, monopolist, abusive and violent entities, such as many sections of goverenments and corporations.
But it appears you stand for their rights to abuse human beings, laws and ethics codes of all lands, in complete secrecy. So I understand why you don't agree.
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It's worth noting though that to top-up your Flattr account you need to use PayPal or Moneybookers (a UK similar service which also bowed to government pressure). So while this does make it possible, the sad fact is that your donation will not go as far. Flattr takes ~10% and I imagine PayPal or Moneybookers do similarly.
:(
If you were hoping to take your custom away from these services and give others your money, this isn't the way to do it
Based on http://wikileaks.nl/support.html it is still possible to transfer money directly to two bank accounts (to fund Wikileaks itself, there is also information there if you want to fund Assange's defense):
Bank Transfer - Option 1: via Sunshine Press Productions ehf:
Skulagötu 19, 101 Reykjavik, Iceland
Landsbanki Islands Account number 0111-26-611010
BANK/SWIFT:NBIIISRE
ACCOUNT/IBAN:IS97 0111 2661 1010 6110 1002 80
Bank Transfer - Option 2: via the not-for-profit Wau Holland Stiftung Foundation:
This support is tax deductible in Germany
Bank Account: 2772812-04
IBAN: DE46 5204 0021 0277 2812 04
BIC Code: COBADEFF520
Bank: Commerzbank Kassel
German BLZ: 52040021
Subject: WIKILEAKS / WHS Projekt 04
The page also states that some European banks can transfer directly to Datacell, the collection agent for Wikileaks:
Using:
See URLs http://www.datacell.com/news.php and https://payments.datacell.com/ for more info about that last option
Wikileaks user profile contains news tidbits that link to wikileaks.org and are redirected to wikileaks.info, a site Spamhaus recently wrote about. I'll wait and see until I have some evidence that the money sent throught this account does really reach Wikileaks and not some clever Russian.
This whole Wikileaks thing is a non-story. Really, can any one tell me something new or shocking learned form the leaks? Maybe it was the startling fact that Putin sees himself as a throw back to Russia's Cold War strong man, or the fact that Iran's neighbors are afraid they are being left out of the arms race. No none of those, maybe it was China hacking Google or the fact that civilians dies in a war. Nope it can't be those seeing how we already knew China hacked Google and oh yeah this country drop two atomic bombs on Japan and helped fire bomb a German city about sixty odd years ago. You go out of your way to try and embarrass The Man you have to be ready to face the consequences.
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and I wonder what effect it will have on Flattr brand. Will it be the making of it? Will it bring it to the notice of people who would otherwise never have heard of it?
How does one give money to/through Flattr without Visa, Paypal, Moneybookers or the other evul companies?
This looks pretty good?
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Flattr can be shut down...Bitcoin is the answer, Wikileaks should set that up ASAP.
Just a few more dollars and the Flattr team can afford to buy that ever-desirable Second Vowel!
Don't pass-up the opportunity to help a bunch of great guys escape the Web 2.0 trap.
How do I get money in and out of the Flattr system?
- Currently, Flattr supports most credit cards and direct banking. We're using Moneybookers and PayPal to achieve this. To get money out of the system, we currently support PayPal only.
If everyone who did "like" on facebook Wikileaks, also sent them a dollar..... fold it in a piece of paper, stick it in an envelope, address it to the given address, put a stamp on it and mail it...
I suspect you haven't known too many billionaires? Or directors at the World Bank?
Please allow me to clue you in. They actually hire people to do their thinking for them. And guess what? Frequently, they hire similarly disposed thuggish types who believe, like their bosses, they should be ruling the world and all things.
But the obvious reason they are targeting Assange is to scare others away, and from the typical Ameritards I've spoken to, it is working beautifully here in the Land of the Fee and Home of the Knave!
This is all classic intel op, from the background of that Anna Ardin, to the backgrounds of of those two attorneys involved, Thomas Bodstrom and Claes Borgstrom, to the background of the Bonnier Group.
Classic!
But it appears you stand for their rights to abuse human beings, laws and ethics codes of all lands, in complete secrecy. So I understand why you don't agree.
Really? You drew that conclusion from the fact that he simply questioned whether or not this was a technological big deal and queried the expression "open source thinking"?
I've had this sort of thing happen myself before, and frankly it irritates me more every time I see it. You query one aspect of someone's argument and they feel entitled to assume that you're not only arguing against it (which might or might not be the case), but that you're in favour of everything they're opposed to.
I don't even believe that this is an intentional smear attempt in most cases- I believe it's the blinkered kneejerk reaction of the egotistical self-righteous, unable to accept that the pointing out of flaws in (e.g.) a silly argument, or even one aspect of something does *not* entitle you to assume that your opponent "OMG!!!!!1111111 SUPPORTS THE iNTERNATIONAL dEATH iNDUSTRY AND PUPPY STOMPERS!!!".
And for your benefit.... Disclaimer: The above does not necessarily mean that I agree with what Viol8 said there, let alone that I agree with every view he hold or expresses, nor think that we should do horrible things to small, cute animals.
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The secretive german co-founder of Wikileaks has recently outed and stated why he left the organization:
- Assange is a duo-maniac: he wants fame for himself and only himself, plus he hates "Great Satan America" tremendously and nothing else really matters for him. He tranformed WL into an anti-US PR machinery, rather than the anti-dictatorship device it was intended to be
- Assange met Mossad operatives in springtime 2010 and in exchange for money, personal security and hi-tech help, agreed to purge the US diplomatic cable leaks of any material critical of the zionist entity, while keeping the anti-US edge real sharp
- The Mossad meeting was recorded with a HD camcorder to document the deal and the video stream is allegedly contained in the 1,4GB enciphered file which WL posted as "insurance.aes256"
- Journalists who have seen the 250k item cable dump that was provided to select press entities, say the continous cable flow is mysteriously and totally missing a 33 day period, during which zionists bombarded Gaza strip with burning phosphorus in the 2006 war of genocide (let' hope B. Manning was smart enough to give a copy of the WHOLE dump CD to someone else besides WL and so the missing days will surface anyhow).
- In a summer 2010 press conference Assange praised zionist chief Netanyahu as a herald of transparency and goodwill...
- The co-operation of Assange and Mossad is towards the detriment of USA. The zionist parasite is looking for a new host body, now that USA is drowning in debt and no longer milkable.
(China is the new host body and jews already sold chicom the Lavi fighter plane prototype they build from a mixture of french Mirage wings and american F-16 fuselage. Chicoms are now series producing it with a russian powerplant, as the Shenyang J-10 fighter jet, meant to combat the american made F-16 and F-18 defending Taiwan...)