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Indian Launch Vehicle Explodes After Lift-Off
Indian communications satellite GSAT-5P was destroyed by the explosion of its launch vehicle, the Geostationary Satellite Launch Vehicle. The GSLV malfunctioned while still in its first phase of its Christmas launch, after less than a minute of flight. YouTube has a video of the explosion, taken from TV9 Kannada.
A much better video in English here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH-0OH0MI2Y
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Pretty!!! That's one expensive fireworks display that they put on for Christmas!
Seriously though, the GSLV seems to have a pretty poor success rate; this is the third of five operational launches to fail.
If intelligent life is too complex to evolve on its own, who designed God?
And completely misses the fact that several seconds before the first stage goes up in a fireball, the top of the rocket falls off and collides with the first stage.
Someone forgot to apply the indian version of lok-tite to some mating ring bolts. :)
Of course we can, it's our biggest state.
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You do realize that there's a pretty significant difference between the rockets used to put artificial satellites in orbit and the Space Shuttle, right?
We've been putting artificial satellites into orbit for over 50 years now. While it's complex, it isn't particularly difficult to do. There's a large base of accumulated knowledge on the subject, and these days it can generally be done flawlessly by many different nations and space programs.
The Space Shuttle, on the other hand, is so much more complex. America is the only nation that has been able to pull it off so far. Not only that, but it's not just sending some circuitry and solar panels into orbit. The Space Shuttle was dealing with real people who were to be returned safely. It's quite remarkable that in over 30 years and well over 100 launches there have only been two disasters.
To make a programming analogy that you can understand, this is basically the equivalent of India fucking up a simple "Hello World!" app. It's a fuck up that just shouldn't happen these days.
Just sayin'
My experience with teaching students from India is that they do great on the theory, but in the lab not watch out.
To be fair, Canadians have it easier, just put eh after every letter.
Other than those two, and a few other mishaps, the US has been putting people in space and bringing them back safely for over 40 years.
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Other than those two, and a few other mishaps,
So what you're saying is that if we exclude every event where things went wrong, the US has a perfect record?
Tell me something, do you work for the Federal Reserve?
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Then, you'll probably explain how India managed to launch 30+ rockets successfully in the past, and launched one rocket successfully to the moon as well?
See, this is what I detest about Americans. The sheer smugness, ignorance, arrogance and incredible lack of knowledge is mind boggling. We have all this careful "analysis" and "observation" in the parent's post, and I'll bet my ass that this chap didn't know anything about the past record of the Indian space program and simply jumped in to post an inane comment, assuming that "hey, it's Eeeendiaaa, them tech support guys, laaats of them can't speak proper English, so how can they launch rockets?" Disgusting.
Certainly not. A few components, early on in ISROs history - sure. But not "most of it".
According to this article, the earlier versions of this rocket used Russian engines, and they lost another one in April due to replacing Russian engines with Indian engines:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Indigenous-engines-bring-down-GSLV/articleshow/5814028.cms
Then, you'll probably explain how India managed to launch 30+ rockets successfully in the past, and launched one rocket successfully to the moon as well?
See, this is what I detest about Americans. The sheer smugness, ignorance, arrogance and incredible lack of knowledge is mind boggling. We have all this careful "analysis" and "observation" in the parent's post, and I'll bet my ass that this chap didn't know anything about the past record of the Indian space program and simply jumped in to post an inane comment, assuming that "hey, it's Eeeendiaaa, them tech support guys, laaats of them can't speak proper English, so how can they launch rockets?" Disgusting.
Either you are that stupid to not realize not all Americans are like, or you have been waiting for a "good" opportunity to level a disgusting generalization of us. Either way, you are not that much better from those you seek to criticize. I've meet quite a few tards from your own country (and from Pakistan) that claim as scientific stupid shit like the Romans couldn't do arithmetic while the Indians of the time could or some other inane shit to prop themselves above every other single race in the world.
It would never cross my mind to think about generalizing that stupidity over all people of your country. Guess why? It's called brains. You (and I mean you Bangalorean), you might be educated, but intelligent and decent, you are not. Until you realize how stupid it is to generalize, you will never be.
Calm down, he's just frustrated that we don't like Cricket.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
To be fair, three out of seven GSLV launches have failed. No US space program has that failure rate, even if you don't exclude the mishaps.
"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies."
American children have a saying...
'When you point a finger at me, three point back at you."
Re-read your rant and think about it.
I was going to say "Blame Kannada!"
Have gnu, will travel.
See, this is what I detest about Americans. The sheer smugness, ignorance, arrogance and incredible lack of knowledge is mind boggling.
So, we're both ignorant and suffering from an incredible lack of knowledge? Wow, we must all be pretty stupid then, low-IQ sub-humans who can, at best, feed ourselves and perhaps learn to tie our own shoes. I guess all the scientific, technological and military progress we've made in the past century is just a figment of your fevered imagination.
... but in none of those cases do I assume that I can extend my knowledge of them to make any judgment whatsoever about their fellow citizens. To do so is bigotry, and the picture you just painted of yourself is one of a bigot.
... well my friend, in this thread you're it.
See, this is what I detest about bigoted non-Americans. Matter of fact, I detest it in anyone, from any society. This bland assumption that one can extrapolate from obviously limited experience with another people (in this case, to a nation of some THREE HUNDRED MILLION) goes beyond merely mind-boggling to being truly Biblical in nature. For myself, I know people from a variety of different cultures: some are remarkable individuals, some are truly ignorant, and some are just assholes
I wish you would just read back your own message, and ask yourself, "How would I feel if someone made such an uninformed, demeaning remark about my country, my people? Would I like it?"
I rather suspect you're not capable of such intellectual honesty, but that's not my problem, fortunately.
I recommend that you just grow up. It's hard, but once you do you start to see a lot of good in people of other countries. It's a big world out there, and not everyone is as they seem, not everyone can be placed into neat little pigeonholes in order to satisfy your ego, your need for some feeling of superiority. If anyone is being smug, arrogant, and expressing ignorance
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
I am sorry sir, but it is YOUR ignorance that is showing here. A launch vehicle capable of getting a lot of mass as far as geostationary orbit is not simple either.
Or on the other hand perhaps he is not generalising to the entire population of two continents and you have failed to comprehend what it written. I take it as generalising to the poorly educated, ignorant, jingoistic portion of the population that would write an ignorant pile of steaming manure such as the post he replied to. Instead it appears you see the word "American", ignore the context, then think it is aimed at yourself, George Washington and apple pie.
He's not yelling at you, simply at the smug "USA is greatest and the rest are all monkeys yawl" in the post prior to it.
You're a doubly-confirmed fucking moron.
Any attempts at explanations in the heat of the moment make no sense, because you'd be pretty much making shit up. No one explained anything right after Challenger's blow-up, and you'll hardly find anyone anywhere explaining anything before the formal investigation gets going and they have an inkling as to what happened. If you want to listen to some hilarity, find Challenger broadcasts on youtube, right after the explosion.
As for the "launch going South" and the "monkeys" at the consoles: the launch is controlled by on-board systems as soon as the umbilicals retract. You could, pretty much, shut everything down in the command center and go home just then, as far as the launch vehicle is concerned. Payload is another matter, but then it's often controlled from a different control center. The people at the consoles -- after the liftoff -- are there pretty much only to make sure they get all the telemetry -- that's one of the real assets from every launch, and worth millions of dollars easy.
So, once again: past-liftoff, the only souls on the ground you care about in an unmanned mission are the payload controllers and range safety.
As for riding on trains like monkeys: I'd take that any day over the sue-happy, mind-the-hot-beverage and don't-let-toddlers-play-with-plastic-baggies warn-people-or-else mentality, thankyouverymuch.
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