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The Significant Decline of Spam
Orome1 writes "In October Commtouch reported an 18% drop in global spam levels (comparing September and October). This was largely attributed to the closure of Spamit around the end of September. Spamit is the organization allegedly behind a fair percentage of the world's pharmacy spam. Analysis of the spam trends to date reveals a further drop in the amounts of spam sent during Q4 2010. December's daily average was around 30% less than September's. The average spam level for the quarter was 83% down from 88% in Q3 2010. The beginning of December saw a low of nearly 74%."
Just set up some email routers to automatically append text that insults Muhammad to all SPAM messages. Pretty soon the spammers will all have their buildings burned down, their families threatened, etc. You just use one set of assholes to attack another set of assholes--the perfect solution.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Like a frozen metal pole, licking spam is only the prelude to a much longer, more terrifying ordeal.
Are we winning the war on spam, or are spammers(and their comparatively low returns) just being priced out of the botnet market by more lucrative cybercriminals, the DDoS extortion set, espionage agents public and private, various ideological axe grinders?
Given the fairly low-effort, fairly low-return nature of spamming, I imagine that it is sort of the botnet equivalent of a "screensaver" mode. More valuable than doing nothing; but priced out of the market once a more serious set of criminals comes along(especially now that there are relatively few fully legal spamming locations. This isn't the old days when the world's spam king was some American prick with multiple T1s running to his house, sending spam quite openly right out of his home jurisdiction...)
Well, I WAS seeing a decline in spam until my email address got released by Gawker (along with my crappy throwaway password). I'm getting several hundred a day again now.
Then someone needs to tell the spammers this because over the past month I've been hit harder on my personal url accounts than ever before. From 2-4 message a night to 25 is a significant jump. Then they keep coming throughout the day. And that is using a black list and spam assassin. I would like to personally offer my current kidney stone as a gift to the spammers...
"This technology stuff is just plum crazy!"
Perhaps the people who once bought v146r@ ch3ep are tired of getting tired of getting billed monthly for one bottle of placebo? No more financial incentive means greatly reduced spam?
This only covers email spam. I'm guessing facebook and twitter users get spammed quite a bit to their profiles, as these are used more and more for daily communication.
When I first got email in the late 1800s there were no junk filters. Today, I specify a single spam mail as junk and I never see that type of spam again unless I want to.
Spam less effective = less of it sent.
I hate being bipolar; it's awesome!
ROTFL.
Quite a few percentages quoted, but no marker to base those percentages against.
When are all these ups and downs being compared to? The article doesn't say. The summary doesn't say.
Statements like "The average spam level for the quarter was 83% down from 88% in Q3 2010." clearly indicates that there is some point being tracked, prior to a half year ago.. but when? If spamit closed in September, why are figures from July-Sept showing a downtrend?
Bah!
I've noticed that spam & dictionary attack are seasonal. Over Christmas I saw less than 20% of the usual attacks on our servers. I'm guessing this is due to peoples bot-ridden machines not being switched on as much.
What really gets me is the amount of of dating spam that gets sent to an account I use for FreeBSD porting & CPAN. One would think spammers would avoid certain domains as they're only used by techies. Then again, maybe we're so desperate we'll jump at any chance of talking to a bird.
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I've been getting significantly MORE spam in the last month. I would assume that they base their metrics on how much spam was caught and identified. Since apparently more is getting through to me now, the article should really be titled "Significant Decline of Spam DETECTION".
`fortune -o`
Spam is declining for a few reasons -- Anti-spam technology is getting better and more widely deployed. sure with massive volumes and good spammer technology plenty is still getting through -- but it's becoming more challenging for spammers to reach the inbox these days. Cybercriminals have switched to focusing on using malware and botnets as these much more profitable over time than the basic spamming. Why would you waste time trying to get someone to buy viagra from an online pharmacy when you could capture their credit card or online banking details instead? Successfully capturing a few dozen credentials like this would likely be more profitable than reaching a million users with a spam message. Massive volumes of spam will still continue but overall the spam industry just ain't what it used to be!
I remember getting the occasional spam, and actually out of curiosity seeing how they would even complete their objective. Their objective? Sell you something that they are advertising. Many moons ago, I got one spam that had an 800 number. I called it and I couldn't even leave a message since the mailbox was full.
Spam = advertising. Advertising leading to the sale of a product or service. I noticed about 99% of the time there was no logical or easy way to make a call/visit a site,etc to present me with a product where I could buy it. You think grandma is going to de-obfuscate a URL(like slashdot's stupid email addy obfuscating filters) , visit the URL & buy your fake Lewis Vitton bags or whatever. Some spammers I swear are just spamming for the sake of spamming. Where's the money in that? There's ways around that like recommending I buy some junk stock that will be worthless in a month.
Then there was some Chinese individual who personally spammed me trying to sell me electronics. I carried on a good convo with him for a week until he told me to go to hell for wasting his time. He refused to tell me how he got my email address. In a funny coincidence, my gmail got hacked, sent spam mail out to everyone in my address book, including the spammer. He replied back saying he wasn't interested. yes, spam emailed spam.
BTW slashdot quit forcing me to preview, wait 2+ minutes to make a damn post on here. Or should I just go to reddit?
What I've never understood is how come the governments haven't ever gone after the companies hiring these spammers to spam their shit all over the Internet? I mean, if we're so gung-ho about stopping spammers, you'd think the obvious place to start would be the companies that are hiring these scummy assholes to do their bidding for them (I'm sure the spammers aren't just advertising other companies' products out of the kindness of their hearts)...\/1@gr4, I'm looking at you.
We get Christmas and New Year off now so of course the spam tails off.
Back soon!
Has anyone looked at the previous statistics? Spam always drops around this time of year (I guess the spammers go on vacation for the holidays). Starting in January it will crank back up. It does this every year.
Taking out a botnet or whatever sometimes produces lulls but they are always temporary.
I was noticing fewer items in my spam filter reports declining indeed in October. Looking at recent week or so, it has jumped to a level that I have never had before. This is based on my business account as well as an old email address that I use. I suspect that they have figure out a new method, or were able to breathe life back into all of the bots that they already control. This will be a continuing effort until there are swift and painful punishment for spammers when caught.
Spam will be stopped in the same way that drug trafficing will be stopped, by education and ability to make it profitable. As long as money is there, people will always step forward to rake it in.
I need to question the methods used to measure Spam, specifically what is being measured - while I can see the volume of spam emails dropping, the number of spam accounts attacking the forums I run is ever-increasing. Despite numerous tools (Blacklisting, CAPTCHAs, etc.), the sophistication and frequency of spam accounts and posts on forums seems to be increasing - to the point of humans joining communities and contributing in semi-relevant ways so that they aren't just auto-banned when they sign up.
I don't think that Spam is declining, I just think it's shifting methods to new ways that aren't being fully measured yet...
So instead of 332 spam messages a day, I'm only seeing 296 messages? Not really groundbreaking for me.
Playing Whack-A-Spammer is a losing proposition. Someone will start up a service at least as big as Spamit, and we're just as buried. I'm not at all hopeful that spam can be contained at all.
The only real solution is to go after the advertisers, the clients. I get occasional spam from what looks like mainstream advertisers, and if they get interested either in avoiding the bad press of spamming people OR they get interested in spammers using their trademarks without permission, maybe then we get some results.
But there's plenty of advertisers that don't care.
The ultimate solution is to make the spammers pay more than their clients will tolerate.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
This article is rediculous:
What about the Christmas outbreak last year? Was it different?
I get the feeling the author is just spinning the numbers. Who knows, there could be no decline at all unless seasonal trends are fully accounted for.
Facebook users get something to click on, we get our peace of mind, everybody's happy. And here was I thinking that walled gardens are useless.
If you're talking about going after all the shady pharmacies that are probably funding the spammers, more power to that.
If you're talking about the drug manufacturers I think you're into conspiracy theory territory there. While drug companies do a lot of crappy things, I doubt they're funding spammers.
Because most of that isn't real Viagra, it's Canadian/Indian knock-off Viagra.
I love the IBM commercial where "10% of the worlds medication is counterfeit" and they go on about tracking and safety. What it is really about is profits. They don't want counterfeit meds hitting the shelves. While this sounds good, the "counterfeit" meds aren't as dangerous as they seem. Some countries are not respecting patents so India and Canada can produce their own. Since it is sold and labeled as "Viagra" but isn't produced by the patent older or license, it is technically counterfeit. But it is just as safe as acetaminophen is to "Tylenol".
*Note: there has been a push for India and other countries to respect patents, I don't know where these efforts currently stand. These countries just don't want to pay the extortion rates from the patent holders.
Slashdot's rate-of-post filter: Preventing you from posting too many great ideas at once.
Simple: Secure yourselves against it, & the single easiest ways are the following:
1.) Limit javascript usage to ONLY sites you trust or, absolutely NEED it running on (this is doable via NoScript in FireFox, or, Opera's "by site preferences", where you can set exceptions to javascript running, but otherwise, leave it OFF for all sites, globally (you can make exceptions as you need to, for say, ecommerce sites doing database access)).
2.) Use a custom HOSTS file, for added "layered security" (and, more speed too: BONUS)!
(This works, as a "blacklist" of KNOWN BAD SITES, because what you can't touch, can't touch YOU, online, this way)...
Hosts files offer a LOT more than say, adblock &/or DNS do (& hosts also overcome & "shore up" both those programs' "short-comings" in security bugs, or lack of abilities in certain cases (see list below in my P.S.)).
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Others here have also, for example, found the same as I have:
"Ever since I've installed a host file (http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm) to redirect advertisers to my loopback, I haven't had any malware, spyware, or adware issues. I first started using the host file 5 years ago." - by TestedDoughnut (1324447) on Monday December 13, @12:18AM (#34532122)
FROM http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1907528&cid=34532122
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So, in combining the usage of HOSTS files & limiting javascript (see SECUNIA.COM, it'll show you that MOST of what infests people is malscripted sites & malscripted adbanners (evidences of that are below, very current too)), & this security guides' points -> http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&form=QBRE
You can dismiss the possibility of botnets OR malware, "getting to you" (along with using GOOD "common-sense" & safety online)!
E.G.-> I haven't had a malware get to my systems in more than 15++ yrs. in fact, because of the above... &, I go MUCH FASTER online too! Plus, as you can see? I am NOT the only person enjoying this... others are also.
APK
P.S.=> 20++ ADVANTAGES OF HOSTS FILES OVER DNS SERVERS &/or ADBLOCK ALONE for added layered security:
1.) Adblock blocks ads in only 1 browser family (Disclaimer: Opera now has an AdBlock addon (now that Opera has addons above widgets), but I am not certain the same people make it as they do for FF or Chrome etc.).
2.) HOSTS files are useable for all these purposes because they are present on all Operating Systems that have a BSD based IP stack (even ANDROID) and do adblocking for ANY webbrowser, email program, etc. (any webbound program).
3.) Adblock doesn't protect email programs external to FF, Hosts files do. THIS IS GOOD VS. SPAM MAIL or MAILS THAT BEAR MALICIOUS SCRIPT, or, THAT POINT TO MALICIOUS SCRIPT VIA URLS etc.
4.) Adblock won't get you to your favorite sites if a DNS server goes down or is DNS-poisoned, hosts will (this leads to points 4-7 next below).
5.) Adblock doesn't allow you to hardcode in your favorite websites into it so you don't make DNS server calls and so you can avoid tracking by DNS request logs, hosts do (DNS servers are also being abused by the Chinese lately and by the Kaminsky flaw -> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/082908-kaminsky-flaw-prompts-dns-server.html for years now). Hosts protect against those problems via hardcodes of your fav sites (you should verify against the TLD that does nothing but cache IPAddress-to-domainname/hostname resolutions via NSLOOKUP, PINGS, &/or WHOIS though, regularly, so you have the correct IP & it's current)).
6.) HOSTS files protect you v
the worst article ive ever read. source is not linked, the axes on the graph arent even fucking labeled, and the method by which the sampling was acquired was not disclosed. furthermore lets take this with a grain of salt; commtouch sells an anti spam product to large isps and service providers that costs upwards of a quarter-million dollars a year to license and run. If the metric is from their honeypots that might be OK, but if its from their appliances then i call foul.
spam isnt just from one source anymore, so you see it coming from dedicated and shared hosting accounts, pools of compromized ips and web based email accounts without decent security controls.
Good people go to bed earlier.
That's not the point; if they actively benefit because of spammers, and their distribution method currently allows it, then they could stop it. This means that economic pressure on manufacturers will stop the spam.
But it's not true, and manufacturers don't like it. Drug producers don't like people buying knockoffs and Canadian drugs at reduced prices.
I'm a concientious
Even better, this university gets a lot more spam than i and check the graphs
http://picpaste.com/mx-fx7b1NOG.png
Higuita
Spam to my mail server has increased quite significantly the last three months. The most recent low was about the middle of this year (when my personal email address was "only" getting 600 spam emails per day on average), currently the average is closer to 1200 spam emails per day (About a year ago, it was around 1000 spam mails per day on average). Fortunately SpamAssassin catches pretty much everything.
Some interesting things I've noted from the count of spam:
* It drops markedly over weekends (sometimes by as much as two thirds). Either spammers take the weekends off, or the machines with the botnets installed are typically in businesses and are switched off over the weekend.
* I noted a big drop in spam when that "false positive" story broke with one of the antivirus vendors (I don't remember which one it was) which rendered a large number of Windows machines unbootable - perhaps these machines were infected after all.
* I see a dent in the spam numbers every time there's an announcement about some botnet being taken down. However, the numbers only drop off for perhaps a week or two, after that the spam is back with a vengeance, usually at an even higher rate than before.
* The highest single day amount of spam to my personal email address this year was over 1900 spam messages.
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Oddly, more spam than usual has been getting past Gmail's filters in the past couple weeks. At least for me. Less spam but smarter I guess.
Too many people have been too affected by TV cop performance. In truth, there aren't any super-detectives that always find the guy, most cops are content to come and clean up after some major crime has happened, and most perps just get away with whatever.
There is no Columbo, no Kojak, no Jack Bauer, no CSI -- that's all fantasy. Maybe that's good, maybe not. Most departments are run by politics, and jurisdiction here is a real hairy issue. Probably the feds ought to take a little time off the "war on this and that" and do some real war on things that actually matter, rather than things that get press -- and in this case they might be surprised how much positive press they'd get were they effective. It probably looks too much like whack-a-mole to them at this point, because even though it costs everyone money, it only costs any one entity "some" but not huge money as a fraction of operating costs. I'd bet a bunch of these companies are actually pretty small outfits that move around a lot. I mean, how much setup does it take to be a pusher of fake sex drugs? One guy with an idea and a box of fake pills in mom's basement? Things like that are hard to catch up with, and seem like too-small busts to make some cop get a promotion, even though setting an example with a few might cool their jets nicely. It's how the IRS works for example -- a few really public busts, a few threats of audits, and everyone lays down and pays taxes out of fear.
Why guess when you can know? Measure!
I've noticed very much the opposite at work.
As you can see, there's been a general trend downwards, in jumps, since July-Sept. 2009.
The filters being used here are (1) IP addresses with valid DNS entries, (2) DNS blacklists, (3) ClamAV (with spam signatures added), followed by (4) SpamAssassin, which has been detuned so that it doesn't produce any false positives. Seeing as only a few spams actually get past ClamAV this is merely to catch those which don't have a signature yet.
P.S.: Off topic: Right on commander! ;-)
Agrajag: "Oh no, not again!"
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1927208&cid=34689212
Hmmmm? Did Your big mouth and skimming get you into a jam again?? Absolutely. You tried taking on your betters, and your skimming and your stupidity did you in, promptly. How embarassing for you clone. It was totally hilarious watching you run away! There will be NO burying this clone, for your trolling others here repeatedly, and under your other registered username here too of clone53421 (1310749) as well.
Even if they could produce the real stuff, that is far more profitable and less cumbersome to sell sugar pills - or nothing at all.
That is a bit like fake rolex. Rolex-quality level fakes exist, stolen rolex exist, but the half homeless vendor with his blanket at the corner of the street is not the guy where you can get those from.
the company I work for was averaging 300k a day, bit down about 66% this week (there was a significant drop in August however). I attribute it to people getting new PCs and taking their old spambots off line...
Thanks to file sharing, I purchase more CDs
Thanks to the RIAA, I buy them used...
I don't know how those ppl manage to get that much Spam? A decent configured MTA (Postfix in my case) with additional tools (stuff like policyd-weight, greylisting (SQLgrey/GROSS), DKIM-milter, SID-milter, etc) and a good Anti-Virus (in my case ClamAV + additional signatures) and a good Anti-Spam filter (I use DSPAM. Don't come me now with SpamAssassin. That filter is a memory and CPU pig!) will reduce your Spam inbound easy to less then 10% and those remaining 10% are with 99.5%+ tagged correctly (thanks DSPAM).
I really, really don't see any Spam issue today. You can easy have good filtering without paying big money for a product. Just take something like DSPAM, CRM114, OSBF-Lua or even that memory pig SpamAssassin.
> What I've never understood is how come the governments haven't ever
> gone after the companies hiring these spammers to spam
Why should governments care? All the spammers are doing is wasting people's time.
The workmen whose van blocks one lane of traffic during rush hour, whilst they pop into the cafe for some tea and sausage rolls, waste more potential man-hours of productivity than any spammer could achieve. Do we launch an international campaign against van drivers?
What really gets me is the amount of of dating spam that gets sent to an account I use for FreeBSD porting & CPAN. One would think spammers would avoid certain domains as they're only used by techies. Then again, maybe we're so desperate we'll jump at any chance of talking to a bird.
That's why I like using the "+" separator whenever I can. It allows easy filtering and I know exactly where it was received from.
Unfortunately a lot of web form validation systems don't accept the format "person+foo@domain.com" as valid, and I have to end up removing the "+foo". When I was more active on Usenet I used a date-based format for my posting ("person+unetYYmmDD@domain.com") that I updated semi-regularly. I then created a ".forward+unetYYmmDD" that put things into /dev/null once the address was harvested after a few months.
I believe Gmail supports the +foo modifier, but my company exchange system sadly does not.
Then why have I been seeing more lately?
mark
The best quote from that cable:
Why can't we just have a rule that any email that has more than 3 spelling errors gets nuked?
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You're only playing whac-a-mole when you go after individual spammers and spam gangs like this. Knock one out, and another will rise to take their place. Even if you disassemble a botnet, that will only be a momentary setback until they build a new one of a different set of compromised PCs.
If you want to really stop spam, you need to deal with the underlying cause of spam. You need to reject the foolish notion that spam is sent to piss you off personally, and acknowledge that spam is sent to make money. You need to go after the people who are funding the spam; if you can cut off the funding to the spammers (from the owners of the spamvertised domains) you will see spam finally whither and die.
Until then, all other changes are temporary and hollow at best.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
Either you only communicate with grammar/spelling nazis, or don't realize how even well educated people suddenly lose about 40 IQ points when they compose an email. For example, this is a legitimate and important email from a business professional to a client (formatting preserved):
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Hi (redacted) I Congratulation's to both of you. still do not have pre approval from them yet. here are list of the inspectors.
Title Co info it is on the offer. please have the verification of your money in bank please just email me a copy of bank statement or get it from your bank. thanks (redacted)
Please see the attachment Inspectors list.
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Some of us have friends that suck at spelling.
"We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet"
If you go to amazon, you should be able to get an automatic self winder Invicta with a japanese movement that looks like a Rolex Submariner for about $90. Would that count as a fake rolex?
"We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet"
I'm surprised: since I moved, years ago, to GMail, using publicly accessible email adresses (I'm running a business and I've got both Google-Apps-for-domain and a personal GMail account, with both adresses being publicly accessible) I saw the spam drop to near zero. I get something like 1 spam per day on average...
And sometimes I really wonder if that one spam per day ain't some kind of "check" by Google, where they would on purpose pass a few emails thought to be spam to see how people react to them (that is: so they can decide if they're really spam or not).
Spam? For people using mail servers / spam-filters from the nineties maybe!?
If you're sending fairly legit opt-in, I have no argument against you. I've got plenty of tech sites which I've subscribed to in various ways (often starting with contests etc), but which have legit unsubscribe links etc
As I enjoy reading the product listings, I continue to receive their email.
I have a few ebay sellers that auto-subscribed me to their mailing lists after I bought stuff from their stores, etc. They're a bit less "legit" in terms of the opt-in, but if they ever become truly annoying I'll just unsubscribe.
The worst sites for being unsubscribe'able are generally dating sites and job-hunt sites. I've got sites I haven't used for years, don't remember the passwords for, and continue to get mail from (often without proper unsubscribe links). THOSE piss me off, and start to strain the border of "legit" (I think an unsubscribe link is required for some anti-spam compliance). If I can't find a way to get rid of them, I hit the "mark as spam" button a few times and then filter them off to nowhere.
The rest of the spam, 99% is eaten by gmail's filters, that's the stuff I never asked for in any way.
So depending on where you fall in the pile, I won't immediately say that you're an "evil spammer." Sending mass-mail to those that want it isn't necessarily a bad thing, especially if you allow a legit unsubscribe.
Hell, I've even worked on the email marketing systems, etc, myself. One of the first things I did at my previous employer was explain why having a "subscribe to our newsletter" box our sites that *didn't* validate/confirm the subscriber owned the address was a very bad thing (luckily they let me fix it).
You like to use multiple registered accounts here, and you troll others and support yourself with them both:
clone52431 (1805862)
and
clone53421 (1310749)
Not only that, but from YOUR post history, I now also see that the person you're trying to troll shot you down, badly, here:
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1927208&cid=34689212
Where your skimming did you in, promptly!
This is your idea of revenge, clone? You look even more silly for doing it than you did in that url link above.
(Better luck next time, trolling others, clone - I also read you're called "Clone the CLOWN" here too, I can see why, what with your multiple registered trolling accounts shown above!)
> Would that count as a fake rolex?
How much does it look like a Rolex? Does it infringe their trade dress or trademarks?
Warning: this article may contain humor, sarcasm, parody, and perhaps even irony. Read at your own risk.
"Hey did check some of those host file providers out, but they use 127.0.0.1 why don't they use 0.0.0.0" - by juasko (1720212) on Thursday December 30, @01:43PM (#34713128)
Yes, I have... answer = webservers (& other things "networking" need to have the loopback adapter, present... so, as long as 127.0.0.1 localhost is present in the HOSTS file? You SHOULD be "ok"... even if you have a server or do webdevelopment (or use LanMan/NetBIOS + TCP/IP networking too)).
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"which should result in being even faster, as 0.0.0.0 is invalid to my understanding but 127.0.0.1 is valid and will be tested." - by juasko (1720212) on Thursday December 30, @01:43PM (#34713128)
127.0.0.1 is just the "most compatible"/all-around one to use, but it IS slower...
Even MS' personnel conceded that much to me, here (Foredecker, Senior VP of the "Windows Client Performance Division" @ MS):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1467692&cid=30384918
S0, YES - "SIZE MATTERS"!
(Especially in HOSTS files, for speed/efficiency! There's an even FASTER ONE than 0.0.0.0, & it works in Windows 2000 SP#2 & above, XP, Server 2003 (just not the "latest/greatest" from MS is all, & it's a problem, per that linkage above I noted...)
(E.G. - MS has a problem in theirs, in VISTA/Server2008/Windows7 - only because it USED TO USE 0 even in Windows 2000 SP#2 all the way to VISTA (until 12/09/2008 MS "patch tuesday", when it stopped working on VISTA/Windows Server 2008/Windows7))
0?
Yes - It's MUCH smaller (& thus, faster, line by line for internal parsing AND for size of the file too, dual bonus) than either 127.0.0.1, OR 0.0.0.0 - but this is why I use this last one:
I use Windows 7 64 bit here (whereas I used to use 0 on Windows Server 2003 before 7 here), & 7 no longer allows using 0 anymore... nor does Windows Server 2008, or VISTA anymore (though it did until 12.09/2008 MS patch tuesday).
APK
P.S.=> Too bad, it's FASTER & smaller/more efficient, by far, than the other 2 possible blocking addresses... 0.0.0.0 is your "best overall compatibility + speed gain optimally", bet... also, sorry for the terse reply here: In a BIT of a "hurry" here is all (the woman is coming over, YEA!)... apk
There's a product just out that will make your spam last longer, stop declining and stand proud, and be the envy of every ISP on your block.
And she will thank you for it.
Have gnu, will travel.
what this implies is that the selective targeting and assassination of a dozen or so of the top spammers would significantly reduce spam worldwide.
and a continuing program of taking out the top 10 spammers every few months would keep it down.
...I still think a bounty on spammers is the ONLY solution that has any real chance of working. too bad it's technically illegal as spammers are nominally human.
If you buy Viagra from a spam email, you'll likely get a placebo, or worse, something toxic... So it really isn't the mega companies hiring them, but the knock-off companies and their ilk, and they're operating outside the law as they always have. The internet has just expanded their audience.
Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
Check out the amazon listing. Apparently, they changed some of the look and feel under pressure from rolex.
"We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet"
Sure, nothing's ever perfect, and that's a pretty good example. It would take some whitelisting if someone typically writes like that. However, one day out of frustration with Yahoo's filters I made a couple of my own filters on the words "urgent" and "dearest", and that nuked 30% of my spam straight to trash instead of my inbox.
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You're caught doing what I think you are doing here now clone. Posting as ac here, instead of your other alternate clone accounts
clone52431 (1805862)
and
clone53421 (1310749)
And, by the very person you mentioned.
I read it clone, and now, I believe that you post as anonymous coward to support yourself as shown here by your own quoted words
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1927208&cid=34718828
You are busted clone.
"And one more issue, some sites do not use the domain name in their links but rather use a direct ip address in those cases the domain name only wont help but you need also to include the ip address of the host you want to block." - by juasko (1720212) on Thursday December 30, @01:48PM (#34713176)
NOT "100% sure" of what you mean here, exactly... give me an example, thanks!
HOWEVER:
IF You have sites you wish to block, by IP only - since if I understood you correct, ALL YOU HAVE with some sites you wish to block, IS an IP Address, only?
In THAT case, & again, IF I UNDERSTOOD YOUR NEEDS CORRECTLY HERE?
Well - Use either a:
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1.) Router Firewall (even my LinkSys/CISCO older BEFSX41 has rules tables for this - where you can block out domains by IP etc. ONLY!)
or
2.) Use Windows Firewall (or whatever one you use) & create a "blocking rule" to block off whatever IP address it is you wish to block!
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That's ASSUMING on my part, I understood what you meant... thanks!
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"I did this to my host file once made even a perl script if i'm not wrong to get the ip addresses of the hostnames." - by juasko (1720212) on Thursday December 30, @01:48PM (#34713176)
That's creative enough, & good job: Computers are GREAT @ automation! Especially via programming languages, & PERL's a great string processor, & this is largely about string work in HOSTS files! Good choice in PERL then, I say, regex's & all (though I hate them myself).
THIS MIGHT BE REALLY "UP YOUR ALLEY" THEN:
Another guy here wrote up a SHELL SCRIPT that did LARGE PARTS of an app I wrote that does this for me (APK Hosts File Grinder 4.0++ I call it), in the past 3 days now in fact!
His shell scripts code for it (using sed, awk, ping, cat, mv, wget, & sort commands in *NIX), if it helps you any, is here (he put it out for "public consumption" yesterday in fact):
http://pastebin.com/Vq5eUnig
NOW - IF you can't get to it, used a cached copy... it's still there as of today 12/31/2010 (happy new year too man).
I don't THINK it's totally complete yet, but it's close (he only doesn't filter via sed for trailing # symbols, & trailing blanks @ the ends of lines really... not much more)
APK
P.S.=> My apologies also for the VERY late reply... apk
nice, you have time for women... !?
You'll have to use either the:
router firewall IP rules for blocking (very easy to do, & even most modern HOME grade routers/firewalls have this)
or
your software firewall (create a rule to blockout that IP address there, very easy to do also)
HOSTS files do NOT block by IP address is why... only by domain/host names.
APK
For a script... enjoy (I didn't do that work, but you might as well get the usage of it, & modify it to your heart's content if need be).
Imo, it's MOSTLY there, except that:
1.) It doesn't check for IP's that use capital letters in them (some HOSTS files sources do that):
e.g.-> MySite.com
vs.
mysite.com
(That will produce a DUPLICATED ENTRY in a hosts file in his program still)
It also doesn't check for "trailing comments" after host/domain names either, such as:
e.g.- mysite.com #hijack
The problem here, is that many hosts files makers "pad" the blank area between the end of the host/domain name w/ different amounts of "whitespace" until the # symbol is hit!
(I.E.-> This too, will produce duplicate entries)
I also believe the script doesn't knock off "trailing blanks" that some tools (like Access, since it can do a SELECT * DISTINCT (fieldname) FROM (tablename) ORDER BY (asc/desc), to also remove duplicated hosts files entries) leave behind, because in Access? You have NO "varchar", only fixed size text fields (& it always defaults to the LONGEST entry, padding the rest to equal length to said longest entry, making the HOSTS file "bloated").
APK
P.S.=> Other than that, afaik? It should be ok... for the MOST part. Trimming off those wouldn't be TOO hard, even manually, so... there you are: Enjoy! apk
setting the ip number in the host file works also, I've done it. But yes this is not to block them from contacting me, but ad serves usually don't unless I've first sent an request.
But then if it does not work for you, could there be different behaivours on different systems. I'm running OSX that should be identical to freeBSD in behaivour.
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1927208&cid=34689212
Hmmmm? Did Your big mouth and skimming get you into a jam again?? Absolutely. You tried taking on your betters, and your skimming and your stupidity did you in, promptly. How embarassing for you clone. We now also know you are a troll that uses multiple registered accounts here, such as your other registered username here too of clone53421 (1310749) too.
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1927208&cid=34689212
Hmmmm? Did Your big mouth and skimming get you into a jam again?? Absolutely. We now also know that you do your trolling of others here repeatedly, and under your other registered username here too of clone53421 (1310749) as well.
"setting the ip number in the host file works also, I've done it." - by juasko (1720212) on Friday December 31, @11:13AM (#34722214
Well, per my subject-line above: Now, you have ME very, VERY interested... as I did NOT think that was possible to do in HOSTS files!
Now, I KNOW you can tell a site to be blocked for access, BY PORT, e.g.:
0.0.0.0 mysite.com:80
For example... but, I don't know of ANY way to do an entry in HOSTS files (that actually works) that looks like say, this:
0.0.0.0 212.22.22.2
(That's what it seems like you're up to & I'd like to know more about it - as I can stand to learn as much as the next guy, & I try to, everyday!)
THANKS!
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Now, conversely, because this is a BIT difficult to understand & "get our message across to one another"?
Do you mean WHITELISTING a site, so you access it faster (avoiding DNS roundtrip resolutions, DNS request logs, downed DNS servers, & even DNSBL)?
E.G.:
216.34.181.45 slashdot.org
?
APK
P.S.=> Thanks for calling me a "well-documented troll" (lol) to clone... As you can obviously see, the "troll" here, stalking my posts and coming in here to try "bother me", first... doesn't matter & don't pay him any mind (he's a known troll that uses multiple registered accounts here) - he's just a fly to be ignored! apk
See subject line...
APK
"Well yeah, but seems to be a very well documented troll. Which is still valuable." - by juasko (1720212) on Friday December 31, @07:54AM (#34720902)
Haha, per my subject-line above? Thanks man... that's literally the FIRST TIME I've been called a "troll" & liked it... but, I am not the "troll" here: clone is.
He came in here, off topic & all, & tried hassling me while you & I were exchanging information, on topic, etc.
He's also known to use multiple registered account here that he trolls others with, and 'supports himself' with or mods himself up with, so, take his b.s. with a grain of salt.
APK
P.S.=> That's all anyone needs to see to make a determination of "what's-what" here, after all... apk
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34720902 and it seems that juasko doesn't want your trolling interference and put you in your place as a troll. Explain to use why you use both clone53421 (1310749) and by clone52431 (1805862)?
Arstechnica? Heh: Ask Jeremy Reimer &/or Jay Little if theirs ISP/BSP's, hosting providers, and yes, the police were summoned when they too were "frustrated" into looking stupid, like yourself here, and they:
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1.) Made threats my life (Jay Little, whom CrystalTech.com removed his website for it)
2.) Impersonated me (Jeremy Reimer on HIS own forums, & also at arstechnica - parts of his website were removed)
3.) Email harassed me (Jeremy Reimer, & his ISP Shaw.ca put him on a tracking ticket & he ceased it)
4.) Stalked me online (Jay Little did this & got himself banned @ NTCompatible.com for it)
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and more? Why?? Because I:
1.) Asked them if ANY of them ever did anything that was well-noted in publications (as I have many times) in the art & science of computing (an ENTIRE FORUMS of them, not a single one had - I thought it was funny, because they like to "play computer expert" like Jeremy Reimer especially, & yet, not a single one of them then even had a CSC degree, or even CIS degree... not even MCSE certs) - that, clearly, got to their "geek angst" & the truth that not a SINGLE ONE OF THEM was really any form of "computer guru", period.
2.) I made them look foolish @ Windows IT Pro, where Jay Little & Jeremy Reimer stalked me to (after I asked via email that Reimer remove a post on his forums that said it was I, when it was not (Reimer later had to PUBLICLY ADMIT it wasn't me, once his ISP got ahold of him alongside his website hosting provider)).
E.G.-> The fat fool, Jay Little, literally said he was, verbatim, an "expert on Exchange (MS)", & when I showed evidence from Microsoft on how memory optimization programs could un-halt stalled Exchange servers? Jay Little ran & started stalking me, site to site & making death threats from his own personal websites that I should be put to death, & more etc.
So, there you are, as to your "arstechnica link"...
Heck - they're bigger dorks than the trolls around here, and everyone knows it - they're often called "the underachievers of the internet" by others... small wonder that as they haven't achieved squat, to this day... For example, Jeremy Reimer is a "self-published" LULU luser, who lives off of his wife the stripper (talk about pitiful)... apk
net neutrality will bring back spam as a protected service
"he registers sock-puppet accounts to bump his threads and write fake "testimonials" about how they used "apk's guide" and haven't had a virus in the past however long" - by clone52431 (1805862) on Friday December 31, @11:12AM (#34722206)
First of all, You are the one who posts as ac and got caught doing it here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1927208&cid=34718828
(You're busted & caught, red-handed clone. Period. Your own words quoted there did you in, as usual!)
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clone also uses 2 registered * clone * accounts here on slashdot as well:
clone53421 (1310749) and clone52431 (1805862)
See how clone used his 53421 clone account to try to 'defend' the 53421 alternate registered one here, below next, and you have some "StRaNgE PhAnTaSiEs" to say the least, from http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1928730&cid=34702996:
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"Mmm, yeah, niggard me harder, you filthy nigger you!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday December 29, @03:40PM (#34702996) Journal
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Your accusations? They only give away your own "modus operandi" on using many accounts to troll and harass others with, and to mod yourself up with on your other accounts.
(Plus, You coming here, off topic and such? You're not fooling anyone and showing your true colors and methods)
APK
P.S.=> Additionally, the REASON clone is trolling me, or trying to at least? I shot him down badly here, where his skimming and stupidity did him in, so badly, he wasn't willing to reply & face up to it:
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1927208&cid=34689212
That's no first either. Via his other clone account (shown above), he tried to give me crap on hosts files (which is the topic here between myself & others), & had to RUN like the troll he is because he is technically incompetent in computing... apk
Go fuck yourself, troll.
No thank you, I am not interested in your homosexual advances.
EPIC FAIL, apk! haha, indeed, HOSTS BLOCKING does not work ... AS YOU YOURSELF admit posting as Anonymous Coward HERE -> HOSTS files do NOT block by IP address is why... only by domain/host names (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34721938) - and yet AGAIN here: (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34722648)
I don't know of ANY way to do an entry in HOSTS files (that actually works) that looks like say, this:
0.0.0.0 212.22.22.2
Anonymous COWARD indeed! boy, juasko really showed you up that time! What an embarrassing slip-up, apk... disproven yet again!
"Your hosts file bullshit is just that: bullshit. Why? Why, because if malware.com decides it wants to circumvent your retarded hosts file blocking, all it has to do is use bad.malware.com instead, or even 216.251.32.98 (which you CANNOT block with your hosts file, AT ALL)." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 31, @06:52PM (#34725722)
See subject-line above, & just update as needed, when needed (I do so daily, 2-3x in fact, because I have automated it into a program).
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"Epic fail, apk." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 31, @06:52PM (#34725722)
Doesn't look that way to me, nor, to others (see this quote):
"Ever since I've installed a host file (http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm) to redirect advertisers to my loopback, I haven't had any malware, spyware, or adware issues. I first started using the host file 5 years ago." - by TestedDoughnut (1324447) on Monday December 13, @12:18AM (#34532122)
FROM http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1907528&cid=34532122
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"Please, feel free to tell me how your hosts file can block http://216.251.32.98/" - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 31, @06:52PM (#34725722)
Afaik, it can't & doesn't - but juasko says he knows a way a hosts file CAN block an IP addressed URL... I don't think it can work, but, one never knows!
I don't use HOSTS files to block IP-based URL's, as again, afaik, you can only block out host/domain names... however: That's when what I told him "kicks in":
You use either a:
1.) router/firewall IP based rules tables (most have this, even home units nowadays)
or
2.) A software firewall based rule
Done!
APK
P.S.=> On the note of "epic fail"? Well, anyone can read this, & make their OWN determinations now, vs. your "informed opinion" (not)... apk
juasko works in PERL, so I figured, odds are, he knows some shell scripting too. Most *NIX people I have met over time in the art & science of computing tended to be able to do, both.
Perhaps HE can finish it properly/completely, because it's NOT processing the data fully to remove duplicates, or, to insure less "bloat" in hosts file, so it's more efficient on loads/reloads/internal parsing by the IP stack!
So, if he likes, he can complete it.
That script WILL/DOES need some work in/on:
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1.) sed filters (for removing trailing # symbols & their padding at the end of lines in a HOSTS file)
This is simply because some hosts file makers like mvps.org &/or someonewhocares for example, whose versions of hosts files are LOADED with those!
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2.) Trailing blanks at the end of lines in a hosts file!
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3.) On capital letter filled host/domain names.
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Each of those "action items" to finish, can & will produce duplicate entries in hosts file line item records.
Thus, bloating the hosts file (taking away the effectiveness of this script's actual intention - to remove duplicates and to update a hosts file).
It's not as well done as it can be, and it's really just an imitation of my own work in my APK Hosts File Grinder 4.0++. At least, not yet.
APK
P.S.=> They say "IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY", well, not when the imitation isn't working right, OR RATHER, completely... That's all, & I covered it in my conversations w/ juasko here... apk
Most anyone who works with hosts files knows, you can't block IP addressed based URL's with HOSTS files...
However - juasko says he knows a way, but I certainly don't (& to be honest, I do NOT think it can be done).
No big deal though - because all you have to do in that case, is add firewall rules to either your:
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1.) Router Firewall unit (most home units today even have rules tables for that, disallowing access to/from IP addresses you set)
or
2.) Software firewall & their rules tables (same deal on that as #1 above, except not done in a separate "machine unit")
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And, there you are: Problem solved!
APK
P.S.=> You can quit "online stalking" me now already, because for your own sake, it appears that the "stress of it" IS "getting to you"... ap
there is no try
apk = fail (Darwin award, coming up)
"So DNS poisoning attacks of "favourite sites" will also get through to your hosts file entries hourly -- yet again, epic fail." - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01, @11:33AM (#34730470)
On THAT note?
Let's let respected security researcher Mr. Oliver Day "put you away" on THAT VERY NOTE:
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"Shared host files could be beneficial for other groups as well. Human rights groups have sought after block resistant technologies for quite some time. The GoDaddy debacle with NMap creator Fyodor (corrected) showed a particularly vicious blocking mechanism using DNS registrars. Once a registrar pulls a website from its records, the world ceases to have an effective way to find it. Shared host files could provide a DNS-proof method of reaching sites, not to mention removing an additional vector of detection if anyone were trying to monitor the use of subversive sites. One of the known weaknesses of the Tor system, for example, is direct DNS requests by applications not configured to route such requests through Tor's network." - Mr. Oliver Day, SECURITYFOCUS.COM from -> http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/491
HOSTS also works vs.:
1.) The "KAMINSKY DNS FLAW" & DNS poisoning/redirect attacks
2.) For redirectable weaknesses in DNS servers (non DNSSEC type, & set into recursive mode especially)!
3.) Also vs. the TOR system as well (that lends itself to anonymous proxy usage weaknesses I noted above also)
4.) You'll get to sites you want to, even IF a DNS registrar drops said websites from its tables as shown here:
Beating Censorship By Routing Around DNS -> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/12/09/1840246/Beating-Censorship-By-Routing-Around-DNS
5.) vs. DNSBL also (DNS Block Lists) -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNSBL
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Ah, I just GOTTA say it:
"too, Too, TOO EASY... just '2EZ'"
APK
P.S.=> Anything else you want to add to look even stupider here, clone? apk
"Well yeah, but seems to be a very well documented troll." by juasko (1720212) on Friday December 31, @07:54AM (#34720902)-
Right?
Those are, after all, YOUR OWN WORDS & FROM THIS VERY EXCHANGE, SPECIFICALLY, HERE:
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http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34720902
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For which, again, I truly DO THANK YOU!
APK
P.S.=> Still, I'm NOT the one caught posting with multiple accounts
(Llike CLONE here has been with evidences to that effect no less)
OR
Posting as AC when I have multiple registered accounts either...
(Again, as CLONE here has also been caught doing with posted evidences thereof all through this very exchange)... apk
See subject-line above! The woman I "date" here doesn't complain either (she keeps "coming back" 4 "return business" after all... lol!)
APK
P.S.=> You, on the OTHER HAND? See your "fine performance" here, vs. Mr. Oliver Day of SECURITYFOCUS.COM quoted:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34734516
(It was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2EZ'" for me, to BLOW YOU AWAY with... easily!)... apk
"Ok, been testing now and I'm not able to replicate it ); - by juasko (1720212) on Saturday January 01, @08:09AM (#34729570)
Well, like I said earlier here? I was PRETTY SURE you couldn't do that, in blocking IP addresses in HOSTS files, as I said here earlier!
HOWEVER:
There is ALWAYS something everyone doesn't know, so I waited to see IF you could... oh well, no biggie!
Because, as I stated in my subject-line above, & to you before, as well as to clone the troll who's trolling me here, to dispatch him? This works in THAT case(firewall rules vs. IP addresses):
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http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34720026
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(Nuff said - because THAT? That WILL WORK, vs. IP Addresses used in malwares etc.)
APK
P.S.=> Nice speaking to you though - & at least YOU'RE not a "troll" like clone here is, posting ac & all now that he's been "BUSTED" using multiple accounts here and what-not... & you're on the RIGHT TRACT for more & better "layered security" too, via HOSTS files usage!
So, kudos on that note/account to you in your favor... apk
"If this wouldn't have been informative I'd hostfiled that message id." - by juasko (1720212) on Thursday December 30, @12:40PM (#34712478)
Thanks. Tell that to the fool that down moderated my post!
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"Well nice work even if you over did it." - by juasko (1720212) on Thursday December 30, @12:40PM (#34712478)
Thank you, again: I'm just a BIG "fan" of detail here is all. It matters in technical discussions.
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"Copy paste spamming forum threads?" - by juasko (1720212) on Thursday December 30, @12:40PM (#34712478)
Yes. My own I've done here before... lol!
APK
Thanks. Tell that to the fool that down moderated my post!
LOL, did you miss the part where he joked about "hosts file"-blocking your faggy saggy drivel? (as if - it's only too bad, hosts file blocking is UTTERLY WORTHLESS - wouldn't it be nice if "host file"-blocking could block all of APK's garbage!)
The woman I "date" here doesn't complain either
LOL - you dating a woman? Unless she used to have a cock (more likely she STILL HAS ONE), I SERIOUSLY doubt that!! Keep dreaming apk (nice fantasy world you live in, at least)!
it's far from worthless it's very efficient, but it's not fool prof.
"it's far from worthless it's very efficient, but it's not fool prof." - by juasko (1720212) on Monday January 03, @08:29AM (#34742894)
Thank you juasko.
APK
P.S.=> Additionally, for "posterities' sake": I never, EVER, said custom HOSTS files are the "end all/be all" of security... only that they make an EXCELLENT "layered security" supplement to that concept (that actually, works) - that is all... apk
See subject-line above, and the rest of the posts here as evidence to that much, as well as the troll I am responding to's failures on technical issues here. Thank you.
There's nothing wrong with a few duplicate entries in your hosts file. The performance hit would be completely insignificant unless you're a complete moron whose hosts file is already 14 megs (apk I'm looking at you).
his work wasn't 1/2 bad...For a script...
Imo, it's MOSTLY there
LOL, as much as I’d love to take credit for the script, I really didn’t write it.
in Access? You have NO "varchar", only fixed size text fields
False. Access calls it a memo field type instead of a varchar field type. It holds up to 63,999 characters.
(& it always defaults to the LONGEST entry, padding the rest to equal length to said longest entry, making the HOSTS file "bloated")
Also false. Fixed-length text fields are not padded with spaces in Access:
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
The pigs will be pleased. :-)
Dipshit, that's NOT A VARCHAR field!
"False. Access calls it a memo field type instead of a varchar field type. It holds up to 63,999 characters." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday January 04, @04:42PM (#34758570)
A "VARCHAR" field allows different lengths of text to be in each row, in a particular column, and to NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE COLUMN BE THE SAME LENGTH!
E.G.=> Text1 vs. TextText1
Both are text fields, but the 2nd one is longer than the first. The VARCHAR field will make 5 spaces for "text1" & 9 spaces for "texttext1", but NOT FORCE THE "text1" entry to be the SAME 9 DIGIT LENGTH, via padding, that "texttext1" is.
(Get it now? If not, see here -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varchar )
Afaik, & I've been using ACCESS professionally since version 2.0 in the 16-bit days, coding applications with it (circa 1995-1999 16/32-bit Access, & I did a lot of this for reporting apps & db work, not so much anymore because of VB6/Delphi/.NET work I've done since, so newer versions of Access? MAY have that VARCHAR field, but again as I said before? I do not think so!)
IN FACT, WHEN & WHERE THIS SHOWS ITSELF? HERE BELOW NEXT ON EXPORTS OF DATA! I FOUND OUT WHEN I RAN A "SELECT * DISTINCT FROM tablename WHERE field NOT NULL ORDER BY DESC" type queries
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"Also false. Fixed-length text fields are not padded with spaces in Access:" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday January 04, @04:42PM (#34758570)
Ok, I'll tell you what: Try this!
FIRST - Import a HOSTS file into an Access database (since we're on the topic of HOSTS, this fits & will show you what I mean), first.
SECOND - Since the line item entries will be diff. lengths (hosts files entries are usually diff. lengths all thru their content)?
Try an export... see what happens!
(I.E.-> You'll end up with a file with TONS of "trailing blanks" as padding, for the shorter fields up to the length of the LONGEST field... guaranteed! Without a VBA Macro using the TRIM command prior to export? You'll end up with the blanks in the export file I spoke of on export!...)
You spoke TOO SOON, as per usual, & got yourself SHOT DOWN IN FLAMES, clone...
P.S.=> Not posting with your alternate registered account here of clone52431 (1805862)? Why is that?? LMAO... apk
"Go in to the settings and change it from "fixed width" to "delimited"." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday January 05, @11:56AM (#34766250)
No, because HOSTS FILES ARE NOT COMMA (or otherwise) DELIMITED FOOL!
Your "HOSTS FILES" you'd create, THAT WAY? LMAO - They wouldn't WORK!
(Just like your "script kiddie script" I had to correct for you... & you did EXACTLY what I told you to do, & still don't have it working right!)
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"Your failure at exporting data from Access does not me wrong make" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday January 05, @11:56AM (#34766250)
Ahem (see above first): Your failure to make a correctly working HOSTS file on export is YOUR HUGE FAILURE here, lol... too easy!
APK
P.S.=> ALL YOU ARE DOING IS MAKING MORE WORK FOR YOURSELF! My way, using a custom program I wrote, that works, does it for me... unlike your "script kiddie script" that doesn't work right fully still, and for which you took my ideas to correct it, and it's STILL busted? Please... I don't waste time on making MORE WORK for myself, like you obviously, do... apk
"P.S. There's a reason the hosts file is plain text. Anyone who needs a database to manage their hosts file is a fucking moron. It was never meant to be that large." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday January 05, @12:09PM (#34766408)
"Bit quiet there suddenly" now on coding, are we, dumbo?
LMAO! Yea, you "shot yourself down in flames" as per usual, dumbo... you don't HAVE WHAT IT TAKES to "get the better of me" in computing, & this showed that much, easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34766524
LMAO - you made my bookmarks, again, albeit this time under your 2nd registered account by clone53421 (1310749) vs. your other one I busted you posting here with -> clone52431 (1805862) & titled "clone screws up on Access export of HOSTS files"... hilarious!
You can BET I'll put that up, next time you troll me, just as I can this one where you ran away on HOSTS files before -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1755714&cid=33353946 for "ammunition" to show everyone reading here, just how INCOMPETENT you are, in computing!
(This one's CLASSIC though! Shut you RIGHT up... easily! "too, Too, TOO EASILY" in fact....)
APK
P.S.=> This is how I know I am getting the better of you, in addition to computer sciences related DB work which you have FAILED MISERABLY ON DOUCHEBAG (see the url above, lmao).
A "vintage quote" of your frustration & stupidity, directly from you, where you attempted to "defend" your other registered account here of clone52431 (1805862):
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"Mmm, yeah, niggard me harder, you filthy nigger you!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday December 29, @03:40PM (#34702996) Journal
FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1928730&cid=34702996
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Utterly hilarious - & quite rude too.
Learn to keep your cool, moron & don't try to 'take on your betters' which I have CLEARLY PROVEN, I am, in computing by far - between this debacle on your part, & your failed "script kiddie script" I had to correct you on -> & you used my ideas in it, and you STILL CAN'T GET IT WORKING FULLY OR RIGHT?
LMAO... Ah, I just GOTTA say it, as-per-my-usual: "too, Too, TOO EASY", just '2EZ'... as usual vs. trolls & underskilled NOOBZ like clone here... apk
Fuck off, troll.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
"Fuck off, troll." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday January 05, @12:40PM (#34766802)
LMAO - says it all for me, perfectly... & YOU came in HERE, trolling ME chump - only to get your wannabe programmer self SHOT DOWN IN FLAMES here:
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CLONE FAILS ON A ROOKIE STUPID MISTAKE ON HOSTS FILES EXPORTATIONS:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34766524
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Easily by myself, "too, Too, TOO EASILY" in fact!
APK
P.S.=> Yes, we have another "foaming at the mouth reply" from clone here, albeit this time, under his 1st registered account on /. clone53421 (1310749) vs. his other registered account he uses for trolling of clone52431 (1805862).
DOES HE USE BOTH? ABSOLUTELY, & here's the PROOF OF IT:
A "vintage quote" of your frustration & stupidity, directly from you, where you attempted to "defend" your other registered account here of clone52431 (1805862):
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"Mmm, yeah, niggard me harder, you filthy nigger you!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday December 29, @03:40PM (#34702996) Journal
FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1928730&cid=34702996
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On your BEST DAY? You do NOT possess the intellect, or the skills in computing (see the 1st URL above) clearly, to "best" the likes of myself!
All you do, is manage to "arm me" vs. your next trolling, as can be seen above in your FAILURE in Comp. Sci. related tasks in DB work, OR, in your "foaming @ the mouth raging replies", which you BRING ON YOURSELF, stooge, by attemping to troll your betters (me)... apk
"YOU FUCKING IDIOT, read the next part where I said to change the delimiter to a space / tab! Who's skimming now, hmm?" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday January 05, @12:38PM (#34766768)
No no senor, it doesn't work: You end up with a file that is NOT "line-by-line", but instead a file that has entries like so, on export:
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0.0.0.0 example.com[space or tab]0.0.0.0 example2.com[space or tab]example3.com
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& THAT IS NOT HOW HOSTS FILES ARE STRUCTURED, & thus? IT WON'T WORK AFTER YOUR EXPORT!
(Hosts are LINE BY LINE, in their format, not a straight single line of exported data like you get in delimited file exports)... e.g.:
0.0.0.0 example1.com
0.0.0.0 example2.com
0.0.0.0 example3.com
LOL, this reply of yours though below, quoted next? Make up your mind already (LOL):
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""P.S. There's a reason the hosts file is plain text. Anyone who needs a database to manage their hosts file is a fucking moron. It was never meant to be that large." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday January 05, @12:09PM (#34766408)" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday January 05, @12:38PM (#34766768)
FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34766408
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Clue: I don't use a DB to do this, I only show that you can, FOR ONLY PART OF WHAT MY PROGRAM DOES!
There's still a LOT MORE it does that Access doesn't... period!
Your script failed at it too, & I pointed out how/where/when/why etc. & you still don't have it working right!
IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY: Albeit, ONLY IF THE IMITATION/KNOCK OFF DOES WHAT THE ORIGINAL PRODUCT DOES... your script, even with my help to you, God knows WHY I helped you? Does not!
(However, you can use mySQL for free with a SELECT DISTINCT query (for only PART of what my APK HOSTS FILE GRINDER 4.0++ actually does (duplicates removal)).
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"Tested and works." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday January 05, @12:38PM (#34766768)
AHEM: "Bullshit", see above - & face it:
You're shot down again troll... too easily!
Also - It's NOT like "you're above LIES & DECEITS either clone, because anyone can see that much, below (in your "foaming @ the mouth" replies quoted)... lol!
APK
P.S.=> Yes - We have another "foaming at the mouth reply" from clone here, due to his HUGE HILARIOUS FAILS IN CODING!
Albeit this time, under his 1st registered account on /. clone53421 (1310749) vs. his other registered account he uses for trolling of clone52431 (1805862).
DOES HE USE BOTH? ABSOLUTELY, & here's the PROOF OF IT:
A "vintage quote" of your frustration & stupidity, directly from you, where you attempted to "defend" your other registered account here of clone52431 (1805862):
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"Mmm, yeah, niggard me harder, you filthy nigger you!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday December 29, @03:40PM (#34702996) Journal
FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1928730&cid=34702996
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& this one here now too:
"Fuck off, troll." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday January 05, @12:40PM (#34766802)
FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34766802
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On your BEST DAY?
You CLEARLY do NOT possess the intellect, or the skills in computing (see the 1st URL above) clearly, to "best" the likes of myself!
That last one above, on how you F'd up on a DB export? Sure makes you "go silent" on co
"P.S. There's a reason the hosts file is plain text. Anyone who needs a database to manage their hosts file is a fucking moron. It was never meant to be that large." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday January 05, @12:09PM (#34766408)" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday January 05, @12:38PM (#34766768)
(I guess that makes you a MORON then, by your OWN STATEMENTS, lol... too easy!)
FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34766408
Explain that clone... lol! No, let ME explain it to you, & WHY that's only a "partial solution" & WHY I DON'T USE IT, vs. my own custom program "APK Hosts File Grinder 4.0++":
Clue: I don't use a DB to do this, I only show that you can, FOR ONLY PART OF WHAT MY PROGRAM DOES!
There's still a LOT MORE it does that Access doesn't... period! Pings of hardcoded sites, proper deduplications, & more! So, you're right about the above, but the FUNNY PART IS YOU'RE USING AN IDEA OF MINE TO DO IT (Select Distinct in DB engines, which I did note first!) AND BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION IT TAKES AN IDIOT TO DO IT THAT WAY... & it does!
It doesn't DO everything needed for hosts file processing, period... far from it! Pings of hardcoded favorites in a hosts file?? Access or any DB's not capable of it, by itself!
E.G. - Your script failed at it too, & I pointed out how/where/when/why etc. & you still don't have it working right!
IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY: Albeit, ONLY IF THE IMITATION/KNOCK OFF DOES WHAT THE ORIGINAL PRODUCT DOES... your script, even with my help to you, God knows WHY I helped you? Does not!
(However, you can use mySQL for free with a SELECT DISTINCT query (for only PART of what my APK HOSTS FILE GRINDER 4.0++ actually does (duplicates removal)).
APK
P.S.=> Thus endeth the lesson, & your partial solution? It's my idea too... As I was the one who pointed out you can use DB's, albeit for ONLY PART of what needs doing for hosts files processing... you can't THINK for yourself, can you? Obviously not... apk
"wrong" - by MichaelKristopeit346 (1968126) on Wednesday January 05, @10:55PM (#34773180)
clone is wrong, and more than you know (see the URL below).
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"nice try stephen alongi cower behind your chosen pseudonym some more, feeb. you're completely pathetic." - by MichaelKristopeit346 (1968126) on Wednesday January 05, @10:55PM (#34773180)
clone is a TOTAL feeb man, you have it completely right. It was a PLEASURE for me to watch him take a beating on "things hosts file" here. Especially this -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34767568 where his own words did him in easily.
APK
P.S.=> Clone also likes to post under different registered account names here:
A "vintage quote" of your frustration & stupidity, directly from you, where you attempted to "defend" your other registered account here of clone52431 (1805862):
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"Mmm, yeah, niggard me harder, you filthy nigger you!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday December 29, @03:40PM (#34702996) Journal
FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1928730&cid=34702996
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& this one here now too:
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"Fuck off, troll." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday January 05, @12:40PM (#34766802)
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FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34766802
(Where he started realizing that using MY ideas, which I told he would only do PART OF THE JOB, would fail in the entire task set around processing HOSTS files!)
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clone - On your BEST DAY? You CLEARLY do NOT possess the intellect, or the skills in computing (see the 1st URL above) clearly, to "best" the likes of myself... apk
"Do you think I'm going to shit my pants because you found my facebook? You're wrong." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday January 06, @12:29AM (#34773602)
LMAO - So, "stephen alongi", NOW I KNOW WHO YOU ARE it seems... lol!
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"I have a pseudonym because I CAN have a pseudonym." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday January 06, @12:29AM (#34773602)
A couple "pseudonyms", in both THIS registered account you use here of clone53421 (1310749) and your other one of clone52431 (1805862)
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"And you are a cyber-stalker and you're harassing me. Quit." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday January 06, @12:29AM (#34773602)
AHEM: You came in here, stalking myself, and into many other posts this week as well (where you showed up with your b.s. and got "shot down in flames" as you did here -> ) and this is ALL recorded in bookmarks as proof thereof and you're expecting us to "quake in fear" vs. your little "threat"? No, no senor! You've been exposed as a trolling scumbag, and that's that!
(I also see you're "making friends & influencing people" the "right way" (not), like you had myself, & now you're paying for it)
APK
P.S.=> Don't EVER troll me again, clone53421 (1310749) (not under THIS alternate registered account of yours, OR your other one you use to "support yourself" clone52431 (1805862) & troll others with (proof below)):
SO - DOES HE USE BOTH REGISTERED ACCOUNTS HERE TO TROLL OTHERS & "DEFEND HIMSELF" (his other clone account)?
ABSOLUTELY, & here's the PROOF OF IT:
A "vintage quote" of your frustration & stupidity, directly from you, where you attempted to "defend" your other registered account here of clone52431 (1805862):
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"Mmm, yeah, niggard me harder, you filthy nigger you!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday December 29, @03:40PM (#34702996) Journal
FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1928730&cid=34702996
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& this one here now too:
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"Fuck off, troll." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday January 05, @12:40PM (#34766802)
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FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34766802
(Where he started realizing that using MY ideas, which I told he would only do PART OF THE JOB, would fail in the entire task set around processing HOSTS files!)
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clone - On your BEST DAY? You CLEARLY do NOT possess the intellect, or the skills in computing (see the 1st URL above) clearly, to "best" the likes of myself... apk
"clone53421 is Stephen Alongi." - by MichaelKristopeit339 (1967532) on Thursday January 06, @02:45PM (#34781360)
Fry him man - clone's been stalking & trolling me here, for weeks, and I have the evidences bookmarked of all of it where he would "lurk" in my replies for 50-70 posts deep and then "suddenly show up" long after a discussion or article has been around to do so... clone/stephen alongi is a trolling stalker of the HIGHEST ORDER and I'll witness to it!
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"a pathetic, cowering criminal who has stolen photographs of myself and my family and redistributed them with a call for our murderous execution." - by MichaelKristopeit339 (1967532) on Thursday January 06, @02:45PM (#34781360)
WoW... I knew clone was a WEASEL, but I had NO IDEA how much of one! Thanks for the information, and if you need a character witness of ANY kind? Let me know - because I would GLADLY see that little shit clone behind bars... that would be AMUSING, lol, once a large black man gets ahold of him for a "teddy bear to go 'nighty-night'" with... no one deserves it more than clone!
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"he claims he is cowering behind his front door with his ".40"." - by MichaelKristopeit339 (1967532) on Thursday January 06, @02:45PM (#34781360)
LMAO - clone's a punk, and a stalker that uses multiple registered accounts here is what he is. See my p.s. below... I think you might find it helpful in your case.
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"JUSTICE IS COMING" - by MichaelKristopeit339 (1967532) on Thursday January 06, @02:45PM (#34781360)
Good! Thank goodness there are people like you online, who don't just "sit there" while these anonymous stalkers like clone lurk around trying to harass them as he has myself repeatedly for weeks here, under this account of his, & others... because I have dealt with clone's trolling me (unsuccessfully as you can see here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34767568 ) for weeks here.
APK
P.S.=> Don't EVER troll me again, clone53421 (1310749) (not under THIS alternate registered account of yours, OR your other one you use to "support yourself" clone52431 (1805862) & troll others with (proof below)):
SO - DOES HE USE BOTH REGISTERED ACCOUNTS HERE TO TROLL OTHERS & "DEFEND HIMSELF" (his other clone account)?
ABSOLUTELY, & here's the PROOF OF IT:
A "vintage quote" of your frustration & stupidity, directly from you, where you attempted to "defend" your other registered account here of clone52431 (1805862):
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"Mmm, yeah, niggard me harder, you filthy nigger you!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday December 29, @03:40PM (#34702996) Journal
FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1928730&cid=34702996
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& this one here now too:
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"Fuck off, troll." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday January 05, @12:40PM (#34766802)
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FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34766802
(Where he started realizing that using MY ideas, which I told he would only do PART OF THE JOB, would fail in the entire task set around processing HOSTS files!)
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clone - On your BEST DAY? You CLEARLY do NOT possess the intellect, or the skills in computing (see the 1st URL above) clearly, to "best" the likes of myself... apk
"you committed numerous felonies making false claims against me." - by MichaelKristopeit339 (1967532) on Thursday January 06, @02:45PM (#34781360)
He's tried the same with me, & if you need a witness? Just ask - clone/stephen alongi is a SICKO, clearly! I knew he was 'unhinged' but, I figured it was just restricted to slashdot posts... apparently not! Man... you meet some "freaks" when you go online, but I had NO IDEA that clone was this bad... none.
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"do you think i might think you're going to shit your pants? that's very telling." - by MichaelKristopeit339 (1967532) on Thursday January 06, @02:45PM (#34781360)
It is, and like I said? You can use my evidences of clone "stalking & trolling" myself here, for weeks... let me know if/when you need them to help put this little menace wannabe away. It would serve him right!
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"cower behind your pseudonym some more, feeb. you're completely pathetic." - by MichaelKristopeit339 (1967532) on Thursday January 06, @02:45PM (#34781360)
He is, undoubtedly at this point! Yes, clone's a punk, and a stalker that uses multiple registered accounts here is what he is.
See my p.s. below... I think you might find it helpful in your case.
APK
P.S.=> Don't EVER troll me again, clone53421 (1310749) (not under THIS alternate registered account of yours, OR your other one you use to "support yourself" clone52431 (1805862) & troll others with (proof below)):
SO - DOES HE USE BOTH REGISTERED ACCOUNTS HERE TO TROLL OTHERS & "DEFEND HIMSELF" (his other clone account)?
ABSOLUTELY, & here's the PROOF OF IT:
A "vintage quote" of your frustration & stupidity, directly from you, where you attempted to "defend" your other registered account here of clone52431 (1805862):
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"Mmm, yeah, niggard me harder, you filthy nigger you!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday December 29, @03:40PM (#34702996) Journal
FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1928730&cid=34702996
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& this one here now too:
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"Fuck off, troll." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday January 05, @12:40PM (#34766802)
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FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34766802
(Where he started realizing that using MY ideas, which I told he would only do PART OF THE JOB, would fail in the entire task set around processing HOSTS files!)
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clone - On your BEST DAY? You CLEARLY do NOT possess the intellect, or the skills in computing (see the 1st URL above) clearly, to "best" the likes of myself... apk
"i have on multiple occasions formally accused you of federal felony copyright violations and conspiracy to commit murder." - by MichaelKristopeit347 (1968128) on Thursday January 06, @01:16AM (#34773824)
Put him away man, and again, IF you need a character witness? Let me know, & see my ps below... tells you a LOT about clone here, but I am sure you know how it is...
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"you're an ignorant hypocrite. you stole my photographs and redistributed them unaltered with a call for my murder attached." - by MichaelKristopeit347 (1968128) on Thursday January 06, @01:16AM (#34773824)
clone/stephen alongi, is indeed that and more. He's clearly a SICKO. Like I said above? If you need help in a character witness in a court of law? Let me know - I'd gladly help. Once more, see my "ps" below for more of clone's stupid trolling & harassing others as he has myself here, for WEEKS.
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"you are most certainly a felon." - by MichaelKristopeit339 (1967532) on Thursday January 06, @02:45PM (#34781360)
Sounds it. Again, IF/WHEN you need help, as to the character of this little scumbag clone/stephen alongi? LET ME KNOW!
Also - Do, again, refer to my "p.s." below though - it seems to "2nd your motions" as to how this little troll clone/stephen alongi operates online!
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"JUSTICE IS COMING. your ".40" that you claim you'll be waiting with will not be as effective as it is in your psychotic dreams." - by MichaelKristopeit347 (1968128) on Thursday January 06, @01:16AM (#34773824)
Good job man, good job... & once more: if you need some help to show how this little scumbag clone/stephen alongi operates? See below...
APK
P.S.=> Don't EVER troll me again, clone53421 (1310749) (not under THIS alternate registered account of yours, OR your other one you use to "support yourself" clone52431 (1805862) & troll others with (proof below)):
SO - DOES HE USE BOTH REGISTERED ACCOUNTS HERE TO TROLL OTHERS & "DEFEND HIMSELF" (his other clone account)?
ABSOLUTELY, & here's the PROOF OF IT:
A "vintage quote" of your frustration & stupidity, directly from you, where you attempted to "defend" your other registered account here of clone52431 (1805862):
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"Mmm, yeah, niggard me harder, you filthy nigger you!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday December 29, @03:40PM (#34702996) Journal
FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1928730&cid=34702996
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& this one here now too:
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"Fuck off, troll." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday January 05, @12:40PM (#34766802)
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FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34766802
(Where he started realizing that using MY ideas, which I told he would only do PART OF THE JOB, would fail in the entire task set around processing HOSTS files!)
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clone - On your BEST DAY? You CLEARLY do NOT possess the intellect, or the skills in computing (see the 1st URL above) clearly, to "best" the likes of myself... apk
"I have not been formally accused of any crime. I am not a felon." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday January 06, @12:45AM (#34773698)
Sounds like you were accused of:
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1.) Making threats on others lives
2.) Libelling others
3.) Criminal impersonation
4.) Stalking
5.) Harassment
6.) Theft
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and more, here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34773688 and in other posts Mr. K. put up here ...
I suspected you were a SICKO clone, but not to THAT extent!
APK
P.S.=> Don't EVER troll me again, clone53421 (1310749) (not under THIS alternate registered account of yours, OR your other one you use to "support yourself" clone52431 (1805862) & troll others with (proof below)):
SO - DOES HE USE BOTH REGISTERED ACCOUNTS HERE TO TROLL OTHERS & "DEFEND HIMSELF" (his other clone account)?
ABSOLUTELY, & here's the PROOF OF IT:
A "vintage quote" of your frustration & stupidity, directly from you, where you attempted to "defend" your other registered account here of clone52431 (1805862):
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"Mmm, yeah, niggard me harder, you filthy nigger you!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday December 29, @03:40PM (#34702996) Journal
FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1928730&cid=34702996
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& this one here now too:
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"Fuck off, troll." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday January 05, @12:40PM (#34766802)
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FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34766802
(Where he started realizing that using MY ideas, which I told he would only do PART OF THE JOB, would fail in the entire task set around processing HOSTS files!)
This "sealed the deal" on that much for me though http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34767568
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clone - On your BEST DAY? You CLEARLY do NOT possess the intellect, or the skills in computing (see the 1st URL above) clearly, to "best" the likes of myself... & it does appear that you stalk, harass, & threaten others as well as thieve from them as well, clone! apk
"you're an idiot." - by MichaelKristopeit341 (1967638) on Thursday January 06, @03:07PM (#34781690)
I've also had to deal with clone's stalking me here man, for weeks IF NOT MONTHS now.
No, I am NOT 'clone/stephen alongi', under yet another of his "registered account" guises here (which he does use & have).
I am trying to help you out is all, as I don't really enjoy his stalking of myself here for WEEKS (though I did like "putting him away" on programming easily enough, here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34767568 ), and I'd be willing to help you out in this case.
However, if you don't want or need my help on it? Fair enough.
APK
P.S.=> It doesn't sound like you would need my help here, though, from what you've stated here already. Man, after reading your posts here in regards to clone/stephen alongi? I had NO IDEA that clone was THAT BAD... none. Now I do, thanks to you... apk
I've also had to deal with clone's stalking me here man, for weeks IF NOT MONTHS now.
No, and I am NOT 'clone/stephen alongi', under yet another of his "registered account" guises here (which he does use & have).
I am trying to help you out is all!
(As I don't really enjoy his stalking of myself here for WEEKS (though I did like "putting him away" on programming easily enough, here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34767568 ), and I'd be willing to help you out in this case).
However, if you don't want or need my help on it? Then, fair enough.
APK
P.S.=> It doesn't sound like you would need my help here, though, from what you've stated here already. Man, after reading your posts here in regards to clone/stephen alongi? I had NO IDEA that clone was THAT BAD... none. Now I do, thanks to you... apk
"I've been using ACCESS professionally since version 2.0 in the 16-bit days, coding applications with it, yeah coding applications in ACCESS that's what i do, i'm a real programmer!
I did a lot of this for reporting apps & db work, not so much anymore because i'm too busy trolling on slashdot
APK
P.S.=> I love you clone, you give my life MEANING" - by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 05, @11:22PM (#34773312)
Clone's just "impersonating me again", for his UTTER SCREWUP over here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34767568 on databases & hosts file processing.
(You can stop now clone (or should I say, "stephen alongi"?))
APK
P.S.=> I read what MichaelKristopeit331 (1966802) wrote about you here, clone -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34773688 and that was enough for me - you are a sick freak clone... WoW! apk
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34767568
APK
P.S.=> As you can see, clone's been hassling me here, for WEEKS man (if not months) & that's just an "example thereof". I have MANY MORE bookmarked.
clone/stephen alongi does so also, under this alternate registered account he uses here clone53421 (1310749), AND this one also (if this helps you any) clone52431 (1805862)...
Yes, in the URL above? Sure, I "put him away" easily enough, using his OWN WORDS, but it's not like I LIKE when he trolls me here either! apk
"There's nothing wrong with a few duplicate entries in your hosts file." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 04, @04:25PM (#34758352)
Oh, really? You tell us WHY it's worse, in your next quote below (contradictin yourself!)
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"The performance hit would be completely insignificant" - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 04, @04:25PM (#34758352)
It's there, nonetheless, and compounds itself the larger the file gets (no questions asked).
Especially in larger hosts files, and your statement concedes it, just as Microsoft's OWN SENIOR MGT. had to with me also (Foredecker, the Senior VP of Microsoft's "Windows Client Performance Division")
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PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:
"Of course, larger files take longer to load." - by Foredecker (161844) * on Wednesday December 09, @10:34PM (#30384666) Homepage
FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1467692&cid=30384918
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Read it, & weep... lol!
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"unless you're a complete moron whose hosts file is already 14 megs (apk I'm looking at you)." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 04, @04:25PM (#34758352)
Ok, a little question for you to answer:
Today, as of 3 minutes ago? I am currently protected vs. 920,734 KNOWN BAD SITES, from reputable/reliable & regularly updated sources for HOSTS files data shown below:
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http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/
http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html
http://hostsfile.mine.nu/downloads/
http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download
https://zeustracker.abuse.ch/monitor.php?filter=online
Spybot "Search & Destroy" IMMUNIZE feature (fortifies HOSTS files with KNOWN bad servers blocked)
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NOW: Can you SAY THE SAME?
(I can, & simply because IF YOU CANNOT GO TO A MALWARE LADEN SITE, it cannot TOUCH/HARM you! This is WHY "blacklists" work... simplest principal in the world!)
So can this fellow (a /.-er also):
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"Ever since I've installed a host file (http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm) to redirect advertisers to my loopback, I haven't had any malware, spyware, or adware issues. I first started using the host file 5 years ago." - by TestedDoughnut (1324447) on Monday December 13, @12:18AM (#34532122)
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FROM http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1907528&cid=34532122
APK
P.S.=> Oh, lastly: You can keep trying to post DAYS later, thinking i won't see your weasel-like LATE replies... but, guess what? Guess again!
LMAO... troll weasels: You're ALL the same, everytime, & easy to "do in", with documented facts... apk
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1940118&cid=34793392
"There's nothing wrong with a few duplicate entries in your hosts file." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 04, @04:25PM (#34758352)
If doing a shit job is "ok by you", then fine. It's NOT with me. Your "script kiddie" *NIX shellscript would leave many, Many, MANY 1,000's by missing the fact it does NOT account for:
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1.) Capital letter occurences (toUpperCase OR toLowerCase functions are what you are missing, my "APK Hosts File Grinder 4.0++" program, does not - this creates duplicates):
e.g.-> MySite.com
vs.
mysite.com
2.) Trailing # symbols added @ the end of HOSTS file line items entries (which mvps.org & someonewhocares.org are FULL of, unfortunately & it's dumb - adds size/bloat to the file AND creates duplicates)
e.g.- mysite.com #hijack
3.) I also believe the script doesn't knock off "trailing blanks" that some tools (like Access, since it can do a SELECT * DISTINCT (fieldname) FROM (tablename) ORDER BY (asc/desc), to also remove duplicated hosts files entries) leave behind, on exports.
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However, IF doing a shitty job (apparently that's "ok by you") is fine with you? Then, so be it...
After all - I can't make anyone do quality work, I can only point the direction you need to take to "perfect" it (perhaps juasko can, which is WHY I pointed him to your shoddily written script in the 1st place (he does PERL work, makes sense he will be able to handle shell scripting, & perfect your poor quality job)).
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"The performance hit would be completely insignificant" - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 04, @04:25PM (#34758352)
Aha - you give yourself away: However, it's there, nonetheless, in ANY size of HOSTS file, & further compounds itself the larger the file gets (no questions asked).
Especially in larger hosts files, and your statement concedes it!
Same as Microsoft's OWN SENIOR MGT. had to with me also (Foredecker, the Senior VP of Microsoft's "Windows Client Performance Division", who posts here on /., on occasion...)
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PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:
"Of course, larger files take longer to load." - by Foredecker (161844) * on Wednesday December 09, @10:34PM (#30384666) Homepage
FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1467692&cid=30384918
(Which was in regards to MS taking away the ability to use 0 as a blocking "IP Address", which is SMALLER/FASTER/MORE EFFICIENT than using either 127.0.0.1 (the "loopback adapter address", which is larger/slower than them all, AND has a "loopback operation" incurred also), or 0.0.0.0, since MS "Patch Tuesday" 12/09/2008 - where the ability to do so was pulled from VISTA, Windows 7, & Windows Server 2008... which is funny, because Windows 2000 SP#2 onwards right up thru XP, into Windows VISTA it worked, for more than a decade!)
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So - Read it, & weep... lol!
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"unless you're a complete moron whose hosts file is already 14 megs (apk I'm looking at you)." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 04, @04:25PM (#34758352)
As of this a.m.? The file is 25mb in size, + 921,028 item line record HOSTS file entries blocked off vs. that many KNOWN bad sites/servers!
QUESTION:
I am currently protected vs. 921,028 KNOWN BAD SITES, from reputable/reliable & regularly updated sources for HOSTS files data shown below:
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http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/
http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html
http://hostsfile.mine.n
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34767568 clone is nothing: See that link and see how handily his own ignorance and statements destroyed him here.