New Cars Vulnerable To Wireless Theft
tkrotchko writes "In a story published by Technology Review, researchers have demonstrated multiple times that they can bypass the security of wireless entry and ignition systems to take a car without the owner's permission. As researchers in the article point out, car security systems will begin have a real impact to every day use if a thief can simply walk up to your car and drive it away. Although this article is light on technical details, a companion article shows how the researchers accomplished the security bypass. An interesting read, and certainly something that will no doubt be the subject of a new movie any day now."
An interesting read, and certainly something that will no doubt be the subject of a new movie any day now.
How about "gone in 60 microseconds"?
I'm sure pretty much anybody who even remotely understands anything about tech saw this one coming.
If my car comes with a wireless key fob to unlock the car, can that function be disabled?
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Apparently my mother in law used to have a civic with keyless entry ... in a small town of <30,000 there was another Civic of the exact same color which used the same code.
They found out one time at the mall that they could each open the other's car.
I bet there's not nearly enough uniqueness and security in these things.
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Ross Anderson's security engineering textbook discusses this problem, as well as how cryptographic systems like Keeloq might be attacked, and some other related topics. I am going to guess, though, that the manufacturer's view is that a thief with the technical skills needed to take advantage of these vulnerabilities is rare (not saying I necessarily agree) and that most thieves will just smash the window and try to steal the radio before the cops arrive (do people still steal car radios?).
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This was how the lead character in Ghost Dog stole his cars. Great movie, BTW.
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That's really weak. That's barely a security hole at all. Someone has to be near me to have a system to talk to my car key?
Also, the explanation article isn't an explanation at all, it talks about tire pressure monitoring systems and how to spoof readings from those to the dash. It also makes the mistake of saying that the TREAD Act requires you have a wireless tire pressure monitoring system. That's not true at all, the requirements for tire pressure monitoring can be done completely passively by monitoring the effective circumference of the tire (rotation speed) and is done so in many makes.
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So I was drinking a wine cooler and watching Knight Rider last night and Some dude totally hacked Kit using a TI computer and an ATARI joystick. This tech has obviously existed since the 80s. Sheesh.
You do realize Nissan is selling keyless ignition systems on their Sentra model line right? a $20,000 car isn't that much but you can get one of these systems.(I know I love the convience of mine, but I do wonder about the risks)
i thought once I was found, but it was only a dream.
I drive a stick. I expect most car jackers today will manage to get maybe three feet away.
More seriously, this really isn't a big deal. Car thieves use much faster and cruder methods, like hammering a screwdriver into the lock, or just break the window. Car alarms are a joke, too. When was the last time you heard somebody's car alarm go off that wasn't due to a big truck running by, or a dog brushing up against it, or kids throwing rocks?
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Why? Mechanical locks are just as vulnerable if not more vulnerable so why put up with the inconvenience? Heck thieves have been known to use flatbed wreckers to haul off cars to take them to a chop shop, disabling your keyless entry certainly isn't going to stop that!
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If only we had a word that meant taking something without the owner's permission...
I'm sure he was commenting on the last sentence of TFS, not the viability of the attack.
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This patent presents a locking system for automotive vehicles that can not be snooped by a nearby wireless hacker. This approach eliminates the need for problem prone wireless receivers and transmitters, whose signal can easily be captured by a third party in the vicinity. This devices presents an opening in the door of about 2mm x 5mm and requires the use of a specifically shaped piece of metal This piece of metal would be unique to each owner. Activation and deactivation is accomplished by a rotational action in either clock-wise or anti-clockwise directions.
This patent is truly ground-breaking since it eliminates the need for an electronic system to function.
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The morning news in SF Bay Area showed home security footage of someone just walking up to a supposedly locked up car (Toyota) and looting it without using a key or smashing windows. Apparently there has been a bunch of car robberies of this nature around the Bay Area.
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Exactly, the people capable of this are able to get jobs that pay much better than stealing cars and there won't be easy to use tools for the idiot thieves to use because simply selling criminal tools is a crime, again keeping the skilled people out of the market.
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If they are going to take your car they are going to take your car. It might be easy, it might be hard but as long as cars can be towed you'd better kiss it goodbye if someone wants it bad enough.
The biggest theft deterrent around is probably title registry and money laundering laws, the locks just protect you from the joyriding kids.
What do you mean you might not use it? Really? I think every geek dreams about being able to simultaneously set off ten thousand car alarms. It was awesome enough just being in a marching band and setting off five or six along the parade routes.
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If this technology became more commonplace, and car theft becomes easy as downloading an ap for your iphone we may have to reverse our slogans. Start an anti car-theft promotion, You wouldn't download a song would you?
That would be "copyright infringement" right?
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The companion article talks about something entirely different, namely security issues with wireless Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems. Neither the main article nor the "companion" article talk about the TPMS hack having anything whatsoever to do with vehicle theft or sabotage at the current time.
Yeah, and I might not post this.
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How will the car know? It's the fact that the key isn't very strong that determines the range. If I get a more powerful antenna, there's no way the car could tell that it was coming from outside the car versus inside.
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Steering column locks are a joke to a serious thief. When I was in college out of high school, my car got broken into, and the steering column smashed open. What kept the vehicle from disappearing is the fact that I put in a kill switch so it would start, but as soon as the ignition returned to "on", it would immediately stall. So, frustrated thieves would just haul ass out of there after a few failed starts.
From what I have personally experienced. What doesn't work:
Normal car alarms.
What does work:
Kill switches. Time is not on the side of thieves, and having to fish through the dash to find the splicing is not in most of their playbooks unless the vehicle is worth it.
Capable thieves use a tow truck or flatbed, as demonstrated here. They'll typically climb under and chop the ground wire to the battery. 15 seconds, tops.
Apoligies for self-replying. This demo is better.