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How To Use a Real Guitar With Rock Band 3

wirelessdreamer writes "Using a real guitar, with a hex-aphonic pickup, and guitar synth rock band 3 pro guitar mode can be played NOW with a real guitar. Thanks to the game2midi project for makeing g2ghpro a multiplatform release. Selfless promotion as the submitter is the game2midi project lead :)"

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  1. Lame by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 4, Funny

    Real guitars are for old people.

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    1. Re:Lame by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Real guitars are for people who don't want to look like fucking retards with a toy that vaguely resembles a guitar.

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    2. Re:Lame by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Real guitars keep you from wasting time with "Rock Band".

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    3. Re:Lame by TheL0ser · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It was a difficult decision posting this xkcd here or on a comment farther down.

    4. Re:Lame by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

      Real guitars are for people who can gain a sense of accomplishment from playing their first barre chord flawlessly.

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    5. Re:Lame by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Kids from my generation dreamed of being rock stars, not of sitting in front of the boob tube playing what amounts to a nursery school game.

      So what you're saying is that Kids in the past sat around day-dreaming while kids today sit around pretending.

      Isn't technology amazing?

    6. Re:Lame by enderjsv · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why all the hate? It's just a game. Do you get so angry at people who play racing games rather than trying to become an actual racer?

      And that "kids from my generation" thing just screams "get off my lawn." Thought you should know that.

    7. Re:Lame by edremy · · Score: 2
      I think I understand some of the hate

      I can be a wizard in a fantasy game and shoot fireballs from my hands. I can't do that in real life

      I can be a badass merc in a shoot-em-up and mow down enemies. I can't do that in real life. (Or rather, I can, but as the results of this past week show, it's not really very much fun)

      I can fly between the stars in a space sim. I can't do that in real life.

      But I *can* play those songs in real life. I can also drive cars and fly planes as well, but the racing/flying games are a lot closer to real racing than guitar hero is to a real instrument. (My brother-in-law does some amateur racing and for a while had a pretty nice sim setup as well.) But learning guitar or any other instrument is a tough slog that takes years- playing a game that lets you pretend to do things that you could actually do but that take a ton of time to master seems a bit silly to those who have put in the time.

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  2. Personally.... by froggymana · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think this is a pretty good idea and would be nice if it could be made more main stream. It gets kinda annoying when you have a bunch of kids bragging about how could they are at guitar hero, even though they can't play a real one at all. It could also help kids learn an instrument that they would otherwise look past since that it would be a video game and therefor automagically cool.

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    1. Re:Personally.... by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 2

      Having fun isn't a problem. It's this idea that there's anything particularly musical about Rock Band.

      Oh come on now. At the VERY LEAST you get a sense for rhythm.

      Plastic Guitar/Bass? Yeah probably the least realistic of the 3/4 piece band they try to imitate, but it does at least open the idea to people that the guitar is more than just knowing your chords, as strumming timing proves to be one of the more difficult parts of expert mode.

      The Vocals? A little glitchy here and there, and no you don't have to even be in the proper key, but thats the same for every Kareoke game out there, I treat Rock Band no differently. In terms of vocals, you have to at least know how to tune your voice to do it on Expert.

      And Drums are probably the best for transferance of skills. If you can drum expert you are well on your way to real drums. The only thing left to learn is how to work that left foot for the high-hat, and you already know how to do a basic beat.

      So yeah, I disagree - there are some music lessons being taught in Rock Band. Not anything super complex but to say there isn't anything particularily musical in Rock Band is like saying there isn't anything particularily entertaining about playing a video game. It's basically what the core of the game is designed around, whether you like it or not.

    2. Re:Personally.... by DanTheStone · · Score: 2

      True, it's not music, it's rhythm. Do you hate the drums and singing and keyboard (which are all somewhat similar to the real thing), or just the guitar peripheral?

    3. Re:Personally.... by migla · · Score: 5, Funny

      I know what you mean. I used to think I was a cool Wizard when I played nethack, but then it dawned on me that I wasn't, because it wasn't real. So, I went to the basement of my grandparents house to walk around instead. That was more like the real thing. That got kinda boring pretty soon as there was only one level and it's the same every time, not randomly generated, like it should be. Of course, I haven't died, so maybe it's saved when I ascend the staircase, I don't know.

      And there are no monsters. Not any more. I did run across a few, well, I guess they were gridbugs, but I haven't seen any more since.

      I realized there must be some secret passages somewhere, as I've only discovered three rooms so far. I've tried searching and searching and my legs are pretty sore from kicking all the walls at every, well, foot. (btw, ever noticed how the real world is 3d and nethack is 2d?), but I just can't find the secret doors.

      Anyway, I think it's gonna get better, because I've got myself a pick-axe now. I've started chipping away at the walls and the floor too. I'm bound to run into a secret passage or dig through to the next level soon, but man, digging with a pick-axe is way harder and time-consuming in the real world than it is in nethack!

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    4. Re:Personally.... by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 2

      Yet thats part of the music course in elementary school.

      Imagine that.

  3. Other devices and their horrible consequences. by Lord_of_the_nerf · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was the project lead for a similar project for Call of Duty. Didn't go so well for my TV.

  4. Expensive! by Grond · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Axon Ax 100 that he's using lists for ~$650. The pickup he's using (Roland Gk-3a) is another $200. Pretty neat trick if you've already got the equipment, but for the same price you could buy the Rock Band 3 guitar controller and a semi-decent regular guitar.

    1. Re:Expensive! by Lord_of_the_nerf · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'll be a rock star my own way.

      For the same price, you could probably pick up a couple of groupies and an eightball.

    2. Re:Expensive! by TheSpoom · · Score: 2

      I'd wait and get the real Fender Squier Stratocaster for Rock Band 3 when it comes out, as the Fender is a real guitar you can hook up to an amp while the Mustang is just an approximation.

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  5. Doin' it backwards by billcopc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is real cute, but what I really want, and I'm not alone in this, is SOFTWARE that incorporates guitar lessons into a game. Have it process the audio input and evaluate my performance in real-time, like a guitar prof would do. I don't want the instrument to be dumbed down to a 5 input game controller, I want the game to get smarter so I can learn with that abstract carrot dangling on my screen, in the form of a high score.

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    1. Re:Doin' it backwards by yincrash · · Score: 3, Informative

      Have you seen or played pro mode for guitar or keyboard? The instrument is not dumbed down to 5 inputs.

    2. Re:Doin' it backwards by TiggertheMad · · Score: 2

      Have you seen or played pro mode for guitar or keyboard? The instrument is not dumbed down to 5 inputs.

      Have you ever tried to play a metallica solo on a real guitar? It may as well be...

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  6. Re:What's Next? by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's funny. I was able to actually play a guitar when Guitar Hero came out, and I enjoyed Guitar Hero immensely. They are two entirely different experiences, and the itch scratched by one is not necessarily scratched by the other.

    I don't mind that you don't like the games. To each his own. I do think it's ridiculous to claim that it is because you can play the real guitar. Just say you don't like the games, dragging "I play real guitar" into this just makes you sound like a snob.

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  7. To use a real guitar... by Charliemopps · · Score: 4, Funny

    To use a real guitar... Simple have someone else play rockband, plug your guitar into your half stack and shred all over their pathetic video game playing ass.

  8. I kinda understand the hate by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2

    The problem isn't the game. The game is basically a Simon game, just with rock music. Wonderful, that is fine if that sort of memory/reaction game is your thing. The problem is that far too many people think they are badass because they can "play" a song in GH/RB. There are so damn many videos online of people showing off at how good they are at a song. They really seem to have the idea that they are talented by being able to do it and that they are actually "playing" the music.

    It can get annoying, in particular to those that have put in the effort to actually learn an instrument to a high level of proficiency, which takes quite a lot of work.

    1. Re:I kinda understand the hate by enderjsv · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or maybe they're just proud that they're good at the game? Maybe it has nothing to do with playing real music. Maybe you're reading too much into it. I've seen people who are really good at call of duty, and was fairly impressed with it. But I don't immediately disregard it with the claim that "they think they're actually shooting people." I'm pretty sure most of them realize that what they're good at is the GAME ITSELF, and not the subject the game emulates. The same is true with Rockband.

      Besides, if you really look at all the posts in this thread, you won't see anyone making the claim that playing Rockband is equivalent to playing a real instrument. The only people who bring up real instruments when discussing rockband are people like you, who are for some reason are incredibly defensive of the game. Relax. Someone being good at a game isn't going to distract from you impressing people with a real guitar. There's no threat.

    2. Re:I kinda understand the hate by RobDude · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Ummm, I think you are a bit behind the times.

      RB3 will teach you to play a real guitar. And if you can 'play' a song in pro-mode with the Fender RB3 controller; you'll be able to play that song on any guitar you want. Because it's a real guitar.

      Yes, it will still take time and effort to learn guitar - but RB3 is going to make it significantly more welcoming to new comers. It will be a game, with easy to visualize progress, rewards, and immediate feedback on how well you are playing. And if you play enough, you'll learn real songs and be able to play them on any guitar you want.

  9. Re:Playing Rock Band is not similar to Playing Mad by True+Vox · · Score: 4, Informative

    Have you actually played Rockband 3 in pro mode? Rockband singlehandedly coached me into learning the Keyboard. Like, an actual one. That is, I can now play music on my grandmothers reed organ. My buddy is now a heck of a drummer thanks to Rockband 2 & 3 (again, he now owns a real (albeit electric) drum set & plays in a real band). And if they ever put out a bass version of their new Mustang, I'll pick that up too! Just because there's an "Easy Mode" doesn't mean there isn't more. Heck, even Madden has that new Rookie mode doesn't it?

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  10. Re:What's Next? by ari_j · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Mod parent up +5 understands-orthogonality. I am a lifelong guitarist and play several other instruments and sing. I scoffed at Guitar Hero a bit as being silly, and eventually played it and got hooked for several months. It is indeed silly but it has way better music than any other video game, involves the same types of eye-hand coordination as most good games even if it lacks the strategic thinking that I normally enjoy in a game, and is in no way an affront to real guitarists anywhere.

    Guitar Hero actually made me a better guitarist, too, since playing on Expert mode forces you to use your pinky, something that you can cheat around when playing most styles of lead guitar. That was me, but Guitar Hero actually forced me to develop more dexterity, strength, and speed in my pinky, which led me to use it much more in my melodic lines on the real instrument.

  11. HAHAHAHA by Weaselmancer · · Score: 3, Funny

    From the project page:

    g2ghpro (guitar synth to guitar hero pro) - has full multiplatform support (windows,linux,osx) so Guitar Synthesizers can be used for pro guitar mode in rock band 3. I think some bugs still need to be worked out, so feedback is welcome.

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  12. Re:Playing Rock Band is not similar to Playing Mad by Pence128 · · Score: 2

    Madden doesn't have anything to do with running while holding a ball and getting your face smashed into the ground.

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  13. Re:Playing Rock Band is not similar to Playing Mad by m0dul4r · · Score: 2

    This. The criticism that Rock Band doesn't improve musical ability or chops is simply not true anymore. I have my friend's Casio keybaord hooked up to the game (albeit right hand only charts). I have my Alesis edrums working with the game and even mapped over the MIDI notes for the hi-hat to work. There is a Squier coming out for the game in March. Aside from this, what's with the prevalent condescension towards music games? I personally don't like most FPS games, but I don't consider everyone who plays them a numbskull.

  14. More Lies by BumbaCLot · · Score: 2

    Why do you keep lying? THERE IS NO REAL PLAYING OF A GUITAR in Power Gig! I bought the game at Best Buy accidentally the day after Christmas. Unlocked all of the songs so my fiancee could play Dave Matthews. Bought a guitar amp and patch cord so I could actually play it. Again, do not listen to this guy.

    I do disagree that PowerGig is as bad as the reviews it received. I have played Rock Band and Guitar Hero and using the controller will knock you down a level, but that should be expected. It does motivate me at least to try harder. My fiancee is scared to move to a level she will fail at more times than not and enjoys getting 100% on easier levels.

    What 'does it do that it claims' that you believe? Dismissing a review when you have no freaking clue what the gameplay is like makes me dismiss anything you ever say as total bullshit.