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Wireless GeForce Graphics Card Announced

arcticstoat writes "PC gamers who are sick of being constantly distracted by whirring fans could now have a helping hand from a new wireless graphics card. Galaxy sub-brand KFA2 has announced a graphics card with no display outputs. Instead, the KFA2 GTX 460 WHDI uses a wireless link to send the display output from your PC to your screen, whether that's a conventional monitor or the HD TV in your lounge. You just need to attach the bundled receiver to the back of your chosen screen and you're done. With a wireless keyboard and mouse, you could place your PC at the other end of the room, letting you crank up those fans without having to listen to the whirring next to you."

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  1. Encryption? by operagost · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't see anything about encryption. Are you supposed to broadcast your donkey porn to the neighbor in the open?

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    1. Re:Encryption? by olehenning · · Score: 2

      Well, I'm a bit of an exebitionist, so yes!

    2. Re:Encryption? by spec8472 · · Score: 5, Informative

      From TFA, it supports HDCP 2.0 - so it's encrypting that content, at least.

      You'll need to set HDCP policies for your donkey porn from now on. (Please)

    3. Re:Encryption? by couchslug · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Are you supposed to broadcast your donkey porn to the neighbor in the open?"

      Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your video feed.

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    4. Re:Encryption? by Abstrackt · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't see anything about encryption. Are you supposed to broadcast your donkey porn to the neighbor in the open?

      You're not supposed to, but it is appreciated.

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  2. More sensible option by somersault · · Score: 2

    If noise is your only reason for doing this, just get a decent pair of in-ear or fully enclosed headphones.

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    1. Re:More sensible option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or a 15-foot long HDMI cable from Monoprice or a similar discount supplier. Seems much cheaper and not as subject to RF interference.

    2. Re:More sensible option by gman003 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or just buy a good liquid-cooling system. With some of the better ones, the sound of the hard drive spinning makes more noise than the cooling system.

    3. Re:More sensible option by TheCRAIGGERS · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For less money, you can get some sound-dampening parts for your case and have the best of all worlds. Some silicone grommets, a little foam, and some bigger fans can do wonders for noise. I can barely hear the difference between my PC being on or off.

    4. Re:More sensible option by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 2

      I got a case with a mesh top, and a ridiculous zalman heatsink. Installed the heatsink so that the cpu fan pointed up and out of the case (through the open top), and the case fans hardly ever turn on at all.

      My only problem is that the cat likes to sleep on top of the case now, but the case fan kicking in scares him off.

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    5. Re:More sensible option by Rhys · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're doing it wrong: SSDs don't spin.

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    6. Re:More sensible option by SirMasterboy · · Score: 2

      Exactly, I have a 25' HDMI cable running from my PC in my bedroom to my Denon receiver in my living room. Then another 20' HDMI cable running from my receiver to my projector. Also have a 30' USB cable running from my PC to a hub under my couch where I connect various peripherals as well as my wireless mouse/keyboard receiver.

      Even when I don't close the door to my bedroom I can't hear it anymore.

      Cost of High-speed 22GA HDMI cable is only a dollar a foot on Monoprice.

  3. Finally! by eexaa · · Score: 3, Funny

    No more liquid nitrogen i my room!

  4. Why do I need this again? by Shrike82 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So the summary talks about annoying fan noise and how this card is the answer, but with the wireless keyboard and mouse that it suggests I could just put my PC at the other end of the room, wired to my TV or monitor, without an expensive and display-lag-inducing wireless graphics card. Don't get me wrong, the card probably has some benefits, but reducing the annoyance of GPU cooling fans is a bit of a stretch.

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  5. Unlicensed spectrum, eh? by Aphex+Junkie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What happens when EVERYONE gets one of these? A full speed 5ghz 802.11n link is already difficult to achieve in crowded/built up areas.

  6. Compressed Compression by jon42689 · · Score: 5, Informative
    It claims to "intelligently" determine what parts of the frame are important to the eye.... No thanks, I'll prefer the compressed video. I'm not too interested in a compressed compressed video. from the FAQ on WHDI.org

    How does the Video Modem Work? The WHDI video modem takes the uncompressed HD video stream and breaks it into elements of visual importance. The various elements are then mapped onto the wireless channel in a way that gives elements with more visual importance a greater share of the channel resources, i.e. they are transmitted in a more robust manner. Elements that have less visual importance are allocated fewer channel resources. The result of this unique video-modem approach is that any errors in the wireless channel are not noticed as they only affect the less visually important bits. Very high rates of video information can be transmitted because the human eye can tolerate the errors that fall on the less important bits. Traditional wireless technologies (such as WiFi) do not differentiate between the least important and most important information, and thus cannot deliver the bandwidth or robustness of WHDI

    1. Re:Compressed Compression by tepples · · Score: 2

      It sounds to me like it's transmitting parallel lossless and lossy streams, with the lossy stream protected by more robust channel coding and used to reconstruct dropped portions of the lossless signal.

  7. Yay, more Input Lag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Input lags of over 50ms, here we go!

    1. Re:Yay, more Input Lag by SirMasterboy · · Score: 2

      50ms? When I ping my desktop from my laptop over WiFi the results says 1ms.

      If you use a regular USB mouse, then the polling rate is 125hz or 8ms of input lag. The fastest 1000hz mice are 1ms then. Your video card is also set to render 3 frames ahead by default which can be between 0-50ms there (this can be set to 0 though). And finally, unless you are using a CRT, your LCD probably adds somewhere between 5-50ms of framebuffer input lag.

      I really don't see how 1ms of wireless lag will be noticeable.

  8. Last piece by gmuslera · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If display can be detached from computers, then forget about tablets, notebooks, or even smartphones. You have "the box" somewhere in your house and from any place you can have alternate input and output devices to work with it, you want a tablet? something to work in a desk? Using your tv set? All can have the same computer behind, and you could use the best interface for what you need to do.

    If that becomes portable or wearable, same could go for mobile computing, and you could interact with the IO device you have with you, be smartglasses, something of the size of a phone or a tablet, or even some kind of sixth sense technology

  9. Wrong market - Wrong target audience by Gorkamecha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This baby is not for gamers or engineers. It's for marketing and sales. Remote screens at trade shows and in a show rooms pumping out messages while all the ugly boxes are tucked away in a room elsewhere. No un-slightly wires to trip over or to run. Funky little kiosks that float in the open air. That kind of thing.

    1. Re:Wrong market - Wrong target audience by robot256 · · Score: 2

      Then the question becomes how many can operate in the same vicinity without interfering with one another. Seems like that would be a somewhat bigger problem, though if all you're showing is slideshows then a few dropped frames won't matter.

    2. Re:Wrong market - Wrong target audience by afidel · · Score: 2

      One or two, they basically use the entire 5Ghz USM band to achieve 1080p. Now with whitespace radios now legal in the US the next generation standard might get more interesting since in theory all they have to do is find enough slices of unused bandwidth for their throughput requirements.

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    3. Re:Wrong market - Wrong target audience by badran · · Score: 2

      The kiosk segment is covered by low cost ultra-portables. All you need is a power cord and you can load the videos via USB or Wifi. And they would not be using your whole available spectrum for video.

  10. usb turret + kinect = autoturret!!! by alta · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you were a REAL hacker type you'd get one of those USB nerf turret thingies, and a Kinect, and write a program to scan for your cat's heat signature and blast it every time it comes nearby. (or maybe a $10 spygear motion alarm would be cheaper, but nearly as cool)

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  11. Maybe things have changed... by Endophage · · Score: 2

    ...but I don't know any real gamers (at least on PC) that use wireless keyboards or mice. They're all good and well for playing facebook games but I wouldn't want to be using wireless peripherals in an online game of Call of Duty or anything that requires split second reactions.

  12. Perfect Solution for a Gaming Laptop by Plekto · · Score: 2

    The first thing that came to mind was potential use with a laptop. You could switch from built-in video to this for 3D gaming and use your HDTV for the picture (being that 1080p is as large as almost all laptops ever get anyways).

    Done correctly, you could manage to have a $400 budget laptop for normal use and when you want to play games, sit it on your coffee table, sync it up, and presto. No need to spend $1300 on an Alienware or similar rig.

  13. Wrong Solution? Yes, but here's a better reason by ratboy666 · · Score: 2

    This solution bundles the graphics adaptor with the sending of screens.

    Yes, that's wrong. But its wrong because it sends too much data. The WORST amount of data is the screen itself. However, the graphics card itself takes information and generates that screen. For example, texture mapping. Why send all that texture data? Instead, send it once!

    The idea would be to send higher level graphics commands via wireless, and then generate the actual screens at the device. An external, wireless graphics card. Now, this model fits the older "obsolete" OpenGL better than the newer OpenGL, which may be its downside.

    But, the model should be similar to the "X" protocol (on which OpenGL rides). Commands at this (transport) level to be sent to the device. The software vendor optimizes to this level, and the card vendor implements, either using local transport, network transport or wireless transport.

    This fits well into the Unix GUI approach -- maybe someone wants to carry this further into a Windows(tm) DX10/11 analysis?
     

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  14. I'll believe it when... by MoldySpore · · Score: 2

    ...I see it not sucking.

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