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Major Sites To Join ‘World IPv6 Day’

netbuzz writes "Facebook, Google, and Yahoo are among the major sites on board with what the Internet Society is dubbing 'World IPv6 Day,' a collective trial scheduled for June 8. 'It's an exciting opportunity to take IPv6 for a test flight and try it on for a full 24 hours,' says Leslie Daigle, the Internet Society's Chief Internet Technology Officer. 'Hopefully, we will see positive results from this trial so we will see more IPv6 sooner rather than later.'"

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  1. A site seems to be missing from the participants by wowbagger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A site seems to be missing from the participants, but I just can't put my finger on it /.

  2. Re:Retarded by Pojut · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's precisely BECAUSE something could go wrong. A full day on a site like Facebook is more than enough time to see any major issues crop up, yet isn't long enough to deeply impact their service*.

    *I know, I know..."Facebook" and "service" in the same sentence. Hurpadurp.

  3. Only one day? by slaxative · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I dont understand why they wouldnt just make this change permanent. If this is the protocol we're going to, make it stick. One day is just toying with us.

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  4. Re:A site seems to be missing from the participant by mcneely.mike · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's because the average slashdot user isn't savvy enough for this, whereas your average facebook user is... i mean, these people run their own FARMS, for chrissakes!

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  5. So how about it, Slashdot? by Epsillon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Isn't it about time News for Nerds got a 128bit address? You know it makes sense!

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  6. Heise.de did it first... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The operator of one of the biggest German web sites, the Heise publishing house, held its own IPv6 day on the 16th of September 2010. Their domains got AAAA records in addition to the IPv4 A records and the web servers responded to IPv4 and IPv6. Long story short: The test produced much fewer problems than expected and two weeks after the test, Heise.de enabled IPv6 permanently. The story is here (in German).

  7. Re:A site seems to be missing from the participant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... it's because IPv6 uses UTF-8 encoded addresses.

  8. Re:A site seems to be missing from the participant by SlothDead · · Score: 5, Informative

    You mean the one that has no Unicode support?

  9. Re:How do I get to their sites using IPv6? by Bob_Sheep · · Score: 5, Informative

    Use a tunnel broker service. There are at least 2 free tunnel brokers, SixXs and Hurricane Electric

  10. Re:Yay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    While you're locking down your home network with the rock solid security system that is NAT, I'd like to offer you a chance to put the same level of security on your home. For a limited time only, I'm offering, direct to the consumer, the latest and greatest in home security, a little invention I like to call "curtains". Yes, now people won't be able to see into your home anymore, which obviously makes it impossible for them to rob you. Act fast though, these babies will sell out quickly.

  11. Re:How do I get to their sites using IPv6? by icebraining · · Score: 4, Informative

    They won't turn IPv4 off for probably many years. But if you actually want to try IPv6 without ISP support, you can try a free tunnel broker.

  12. Re:Yay by xaxa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And I'll STILL NAT everything in my house. I dont need NX10^23 script kiddies attacking every one of my appliances.

    I won't, since I don't think anyone is going to port scan me.

    Here's an IPv6 address: 2001:0db8:85a3:0000:0000:8a2e:0370:7334, the bold bit is the local part. How much bandwidth is your script kiddie going to have to have to find 0000:8a2e:0370:7334 in the range 0-ffffffffffffffff?

    Also, a firewall is simpler than a NAT, and doesn't have the disadvantages of NAT, so you can just do that instead.

  13. Re:Dual-stack mode by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes, they will continue to run it in dual-stack. But instead of current practice where you need to enter ipv6.google.com you will just simply type www.google.com and will reach them via IPv6. It is similar for other sites. You, who are like me stuck in IPv4 space mark June 8 in your calendars. As it might be day when you might not reach some resources on internet. It is due to fact how DNS will be resolved. Your computer will ask for IP addres and will get AAAA record but you don't have IPv6 connectivity so you will not connect. In better case it will fall back to IPv4.

    Actually, you will still be able to reach those resources just fine, with patience. What happens is (and always has when OSes started blindly enabling IPv6) the connection waits for the IPv6 connection first. If that doesn't get established, it falls back to IPv4 and you get your content. What everyone found is well, pages took forever to load as you had to wait for the IPv6 TCP session to return an error first before the IPv4 fallback.

    Frankly, the problem with IPv6 is the lack of a simple drop-in router replacement that works as well as current NAT routers. I don't care to have 3 IPv6 IPs on every IPv6 capable device on my network (nevermind all the IPv4-only gear I have). Yes, 3 IPv6 addresses, because you'll have a link-local (always present), your internet IPv6 address (you get a prefix that's usually /64, so all the PCs will use that prefix and add a suffix, and that will get you to the router), and since entering random numbers and letters is annoying, and a private set of IPv6 addresses (FC00:: prefix (/64) is for private networks, akin to 10/8 and other IPv4 private space). Why can't I have a NATv6 box that can have 192.168.0.1 and FC00::1, and keep everything going the way it is? Bonus to handle IPv4-to-IPv6 translation as well (there are tricks that you can do to have IPv4-only devices support IPv6 addresses, like ipv6-literal.net virtual domain Windows has to support IPv6 CIFS and IPv6 address entry).

    That's what people want - a simple box they can drop into their network without having to reconfigure their intranet immediately that works just like their existing NAT router.

  14. Re:Yay by cduffy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here's a hint: "No NAT" doesn't mean "no firewall".

  15. Better Day by buckhead_buddy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Two days earlier and it would have been June 6, or 6/6. Rolling out IPv6 on 6/6 would have been biblically ordained to take over the heavens and the earth. Now it's just... another day, another test.

  16. Re:Yay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why not?? In the *real world* everything has a public address. I know people don't "get it" when it comes to networking, but this is just FUD and is getting ridiculous.

    NAT is like having a chaperone, where all communication happens through a 3rd party. It increases network traffic, it makes peer-to-peer internet impossible. And it is not security. You only need to trick inside device to connect to outside device, and there goes NAT as security! And that is quite easy.

    Firewall is like having a security guard monitoring traffic. A firewall is actually designed to handle security, not illusion of security. This can actually catch and prevent unsanctioned communication. And if you want to use Skype, you can actually allow inbound connections.

    Skype went down because of NAT. If the internet was IPv6, there would be no need for "supernodes". People could actually communicate, peer-to-peer instead of through their chaperones.

    Finally, when I was young and stupid, I believed that NAT was a cool thing. When I asked a network admin at local university why they don't do more NAT and all departments gets /24 or larger, the answer was quite simple. Security. I didn't understand that answer for a few years, but now years later, it is as plain as night and day. NAT creates more problems than it's worth. And if someone brought some shitty SPAM relay (virus), it becomes a challenge just trying to identify where the rogue program is communication from.

    Traceability and accountability and transparency and security is what public internet brings. NAT gives you an illusion of anonymity and security.