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MicroHP — the New IT Giant?
storagedude writes "Although it may have gone unnoticed by most IT industry watchers, this week's announcement from Microsoft and HP that the two have combined on integrated appliances for corporate business intelligence and email could be the start of a closer relationship between the two IT giants as they seek to counteract the growing hardware and software dominance of IBM and Oracle. From the article: 'Combine Microsoft and HP — call it MicroHP — and what do you have? A full Windows-plus-Linux scale-out hardware and software lineup, with an exceptionally strong position both in SaaS/public cloud and data centers, and a huge presence on the business desktop. This would allow such a combined entity to produce well-tuned appliances for such hot areas as BI/analytics — as Microsoft and HP have just done.'"
I think HPoSoft would be a better name, pronounced "hipposoft".
which is totally what she said
Windows and linux? and MS is involved. In other news Satan has said these last few months have been fucking freezing.
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So Microft and HP joined up to hype some stuff. Big news.
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You know, slashdot isn't much different from gawkers or all the other gossip site, eh.
Fuck systemd. Fuck Redhat. Fuck Soylent, too. Wait, scratch the last one.
HP is already the (somewhat distant) #2 player in high-end UNIX and proprietary systems, after IBM. I don't think they have that much interest in scale-out commodity Lintel/Wintel crap.
a couple years back, to sell an appliance running Oracle's DB and data warehousing software on HP server hardware. That was supposed to be a big deal for both companies, until Oracle acquired HP's archrival Sun a few months later. Then Mark Hurd was kicked out of HP and joined Oracle, with Ellison dissing HP's board for its incompetence in letting Hurd go. It might be possible to still buy this Oracle-HP appliance, but I doubt that either company is pushing it very hard.
In other words, this is the kind of short term marketing alliance that happens all the time in the tech world, usually with lots of hoopla and smiling CEOs making speeches about a new era of this or that. Most of them don't amount to much. In the case of HP and Microsoft, there is perhaps a fit with HP lacking enterprise database software and Microsoft struggling in the business intelligence space. But wait until either one makes an acquisition or another big deal, for example Microsoft with Dell to sell BI appliances, then we'll stop hearing from the two companies about how excellent this one is.
I don't really think HP-UX, HP's proprietary bastard child of System V and Tru64, can be called "Linux"
Plus Microsoft would get a Phone OS.
The main reason I hope this happens is that then maybe a greedy MicroHP would stop making drivers for other Operating systems besides windows. The worst software on my mac for the past decade has always been, bar none, HP scanner software. it's like toenail fungus. it gets into your system and spreads from user to user. Then it curses you for trying to run multiple instances of itself.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
MSHP = Mash Up?
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Hurd got tossed in a Mata-Hari, that has now claimed control of the BOD. Mata-Hari didn't act on her own. What we see here is the hand behind the strings. Hp is hosed.
Help stamp out iliturcy.
If that news is accurate...
seems like kicking out Mark Hurd worked
I'm sure google would love a merger: two top heavy companies doing everything they can to kill R&D
Do you have even the faintest notion of what Microsoft spends on R&D?
Microsoft's $8.7 billion in R&D expenses for the 2010 fiscal year represented 14 percent of the company's $62.5 billion in annual revenue. That was down slightly from the previous year, when the R&D expenses of $9 billion represented about 15 percent of its revenue, roughly in line with its traditional ratio.
Microsoft's annual R&D spending dips for first time in five years
Pharmaceutical giant Roche Holding took the top position for innovation spending, having boosted its R&D spend 11.6% to $9.1 billion, replacing Toyota Motor, which cut spending nearly 20% and fell to fourth place.
In fact, healthcare companies took 5 of the top 10 spots on the list and 7 of the top 20.
Microsoft (#2), Nokia (#3) and Pfizer (#5) rounded out the top five. Corporate R&D spending declined during 2009 downturn, finds Booz & Company global innovation 1000 study
That these appliances will crash often and fall apart after a year of normal use?
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Neither company has done much worth watching recently - so there's no reason to think that their combining forces is likely to produce anything particularly noteworthy.
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I deeply resent the...oh crap, you're right. Thank you very little Hurd for starving R&D to half the industry standard and wastinlg money with 3rd rate acquisitions with disposable IP.
.... as they seek to counteract the growing hardware and software dominance of IBM and Oracle.
Shouldn't that be "... the increasing irrelevance of IBM and Oracle?"
... and then they built the supercollider.
Business majors need to recite this every morning without fail: synergy never happens, synergy never happens, synergy never happens...
A revolutionary new printer that prints only BSODs.
Just a word to those who think cheaper-better-cheaper-cheaper is the end-all: The historic commercial landscape is littered with the corpses of businesses who thought they had "partnered" with Microsoft. If they don't slit your balance sheet outright when they see a chance their demand that you coddle their ancient creaking code base will destroy any hopes of efficiency. It will be like walking in the park while dragging a dog that won't let go of your leg.
If they merge you get a complete company. They could put Windows on top of Unix on top of HP hardware and make something that can compete with the Mac. They could do real mobile versions of Office and have something that can compete with iPad. Put all their phone stuff together, you might get to something that matches the 2007 iPhone.
The kit era is over. The build whatever PC you want as long as it runs Windows era is over. Most users today are not nerds, most buyers are not I-T. You need to make complete, functioning solutions, you need to ship software on silicon, not floppy/optical disks.
For Microsoft to merge with Compaq was always the way it was going. Compaq put Microsoft in the IBM PC driver's seat. Now, they can make honest vendors out of each other, they can ship solutions instead of kits.
Doesnt that sound ominous and concerning ...
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HP shouldn't get their whole identity in it while MS only gets half, so let's just call it MicroP. Of course, what the "P" stands for...
Are you kidding? If you're a CS graduate looking for a corporate R&D job, Microsoft is one of the few places left, and they actually still have some freedom and time to do research.
The company you should be complaining about is Apple: they closed their search lab 15 years ago, don't publish, and don't do research; Apple just puts other people's technologies into shiny boxes and makes a killing with it.
Which goes to show that tons of spending on R&D is neither necessary nor sufficient for making good products.
Another company with shitty products and consumer lock-in?
Hewlett Crapperd would be my guess.
Shitty laptops with shittier software sold by shitty retailers too lazy to have their buyers look for non-crap.
As someone from Microsoft who works closely with a team at HP building the actual appliances mentioned discussed here, I'd love more feedback on the HP Business Decision Appliance (HPBDA) mentioned here. The appliance is designed to support 80-150 concurrent PowerPivot users (doing what we call Self-Service BI) in a 1U server (24 cores/96GB memory) with all the storage required inside the appliance. The appliance is configured to provide backup storage initially. The HPBDA from cardboard box to production takes less than an hour to configure and the only pre-req is existing AD infrastructure.
Here are product details to learn more and an unboxing video which can help understand what we're talking about.
Considering it can take months to design and build one of these yourself starting from scratch (choosing approach/software/hardware/tuning/etc) we're hoping this enables many of you to deliver a very cool capability called PowerPivot to your own organizations with minimal effort because of this.
Look forward to hearing what everyone thinks.
Britt...
Britt Johnston
The reliability of Microsoft and the reputation of HP
A partneship with MS can only lead to one outcome... I won't miss HP a lot, except for not finding ink for my printer anymore.
Rethinking email
Shitty apps. Id much rather deal with HP than IBM.
Intel wants to buy McAfee, HP and Microsoft cooperates. Is this hardware + software cooperation a trend? Is this because growth seems to happen on all other arenas than the traditional PC?
In the mid 90's Microsoft and Intel relied on each other to drive one another's sales, a symbiosis they formalized for a while, but "parted as friends" in the late 90's if I recall correctly.
You mean, MicroPackard?
lol...micro...pecker...
Business majors need to recite this every morning without fail: synergy never happens, synergy never happens, synergy never happens...
I dunno, it seems to have happened a lot with Google's acquisitions. OTOH, rather than just mouth some platitudes about synergy and expecting it to magically happen as they downsize, when Google buys someone with a product service where they expect to acheive some kind of synergies, they seem to throw a bunch of technical resources into integrating the product or service with Google's existing offerings to acheive synergies.
Synergies happen only if you take the step beyond recognizing the potential for synergy and actually put some resources into making the synergies happen.