Do you know the definition of book value? RIM is trading below the value of their real estate, cash assets. You could parcel the company up and sell the real estate to Google and make a profit.
I have played with many flavours of Unix, Linux since '92 -- but the GUI is conflicted and never amounted to anything I will likely program. OS X is the best Unix that this old timer has used in my 23 years with the OS.
The problem with open source -- the competition has imitated your product before you've recouped your R&D $. When you have a solution to that one, let me know.
Information technology as I was using it deals with the broader topic -- I have never considered this expression to mean just corporate server technology. Consumer electronics is what the PC was before it was adopted as a corporate solution. And, rather likely, this will be the fate of many of the items currently becoming popular as consumer devices -- iPhones, iPads, even Macs, as they increasingly show up at work, thumbing noses at antiquated corporate IT standards.
You can already get most of that information online. Last time I used 411.com they gave me phone number, complete postal address and even a handy map. Google the person's name and you get everything else they've done on the 'net in the past couple decades. So curse facebook if you must, then back into the sand with that head...
I thought I had 3mbps DSL but it was losing sync three times per day. I opened a support call and they derated my line to 1.5mpbs so that now it only goes down three times in a week!!!
Now in canada they get to charge me extra for heavy down loading -- if only the piece of crap line works long enough for that.
3 mbps DSL? What planet?
I set up a Mac Mini in my van this past summer. Not too hard to do. It is reasonably energy efficient and I readily found a DC-DC converter for it. I have a 7" touch screen on the dash, and have a BT keyboard in the glove box. I have MacGPS Pro and continent wide topomaps for my road trips. Connecting my laptop is just a matter of screen sharing via wifi. Whole setup with maps, software & hardware, cost about $1500. Rumour has it that this setup would play movies too, if Hollywood would only release anything worthwhile.
Ham to ham... hack it and produce an open source version. By definition, patents are only valuable to others who use the idea to make money. Case law is required for a patent to be worth anything.
This has got to be the height of irony. Lamenting, a commercial entity is dropping a project that doesn't make money... But, isn't the beauty of open source related to the fact that those who care, can pick up the source and make it work? So, prove it.
Anyone on this forum heard of TCP/IP? Maybe I am getting old, but I remember the internet as a DARPA project. Source got distributed and ported to whatever you OS you happened to be using. Sounds like open source to me.
The litres of fuel consumed per hundred kilometers are similar between say, the Camry and the Jetta TDI (2009) -- and this is partly due to the fact that diesel has more energy per litre than gasoline. (See wikipedia for a good explanation, if this isn't obvious.) However, the clean diesel has far lower emissions that gasoline hybrid engines in nearly every category, except CO2 -- CO2 tonnes over the life cycle of the vehicle is still expected to be somewhat higher than the hybrid gas. However, in my mind the effects of high amounts of CO are often much more directly felt than CO2.
I recently built emissions models for both those vehicles, the results unfortunately on my hard drive at work, not here at my finger tips.
Given the low emissions of a modern clean diesel engine, the motivation to go with a hybrid isn't at all clear.
I first started using Linux in about '93. It was great and I used it for many great things since. Around '98 I trashed my Windoze partition as nearly everything I wanted to do I could do using Linux... some things with a fair bit of pain, like WordPerfect pulling the plug on the Linux version. The first few compiles of Star Office/Open Office were brutal (it has been much better recently). OK, so I resigned myself to a laptop with Windows as a second machine. Windows was a piece of crap, but it had a working word processor and spreadsheet.
I suppose if I summarize what I find annoying about Linux, is that I was finding a lot of churn -- apps that came with a distro ended up changing as one on project got ahead of another. The main Linux distro only supporting their releases for 12 months, forcing you onto the upgrade treadmill if you wanted that bug fix. One of the reasons I loved Linux is that I was able to get ten years out of my hardware investment. But, I am finding more recently that much of the stuff I want to do with Linux requires fairly new hardware.
My brand new IBM ThinkPad with NT in 2000 had been only getting an hour on a battery -- the used iBook I picked up that year got six hours! I actually found a solution that didn't get in the way of getting my work done. And later with WiFi installed, I was still doing better than five hours. A couple of years later ThinkPad came out with a new version that was supposed to have WiFi built in. It never did work properly, and the user interface seemed sooo bad after having used the Mac. I only had that TP for about six weeks and I turned it back in -- my next lap top was a PowerBook.
With OS X, bash, and the X server, I could do many of the things that I had done on Linux... in fact I had it set up so that I used the PB as an X workstation initially. Then came the crack down on security where the next release of Linux disabled that feature by default. I dug out vi and changed the configuration so that that the PB was still my X workstation for while. But, by the time the upgrade over-wrote the config file on Linux and disabled the feature on me again, I'd decided to change the way I do things. I was getting accustomed to the OS X UI and it was slowly eroding my interest in jumping through hoops to get an inferior UI.
I kept hearing how this release is going to be it, the one where Linux is going become big on the desktop. Ok, I thought as little as a year ago, I will configure IPtables firewall on Linux using the new GUI. Splat... as I hit wall after wall. In the end I dove into vi to set the configuration I needed. And it worked great, until a few weeks later I ended up using the firewall UI to tweak a minor parameter unrelated to what I had used vi to add, but the UI chose to delete my vi added parameter presumably because it couldn't understand it. This isn't the only experience that sucked... I could go on. Over the years I'd gotten a number of people to switch away from Windows onto Linux. But invariably, these people switched to a Mac within a couple of years. The getting of a GUI for Linux has been over a decade now, and we still haven't arrived there folks. Even as Linux coders poke fun at the expression paradigm shift, it is exactly what is happening.
Why is Mac OS X gaining a lot of mindshare these days?
1, the user interface is designed around how people think (moreso than Windows or Linux). 2, the tools are generally provided for advanced users to get what they need, and the UI responds gracefully and doesn't usually break in such a circumstance. 3, the whole hardware and software integration, plus the reasonably intuitive UI, results in a predictable environment conducive to getting work done. 4, there are a fair number of really good, really powerful, really easy to use apps for OS X. 5, OS X is "UNIX", and that is what some of us really liked about Linux.
The guys working on Linux are doing a great job. Some of it is trying to make Linux more like Windows -- that
My second machine is an AMD K6-2 which shows up on boot as a 586 -- Fedora liveCDs refuse to boot for some strange reason.
Same problem with Fedora 7. Yet, I installed it from the installation repository and it runs fine to this day.
One of the reasons I run Linux is because I am fed up with the new computer every three years nonsense requisite in the windoze arena. One of the strengths of Linux is that it runs on older stock. I hope we don't shed that valuable asset as Linux becomes increasingly mainstream.
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Sorry, slashdot has the unchallenged monopoly for "knee jerk reactionary idiots." I spent my undergrad studying evolutionary theory, and it has been disproven and changed several times since Darwin originated it. Even in its current form, paleontologists are at odds with the biologists, and It is still a theory though interesting, and still far from proven. In Galileo's time, the powers that be may have carried the name Catholic, but unfortunately they gave contrarians as much consideration as slashdotters give alternative hypotheses today. People who don't learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.
Exactly right, it seems the penny dropped at slashdot.
Speaking as a canadian, let me assure you that Canada is one of the world's most overtaxed nations. Is that possibly one of the big reasons that they are not keeping people who earn higher than average salaries? The high taxes go to fund programs costing 700 million, said to help stop people from leaving the country?! Talk about a circular argument.
Contrary to popular opinion, socialism didn't die with the Soviet Union, it's kicking in the throes of yet another dieing nation.
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Do you know the definition of book value? RIM is trading below the value of their real estate, cash assets. You could parcel the company up and sell the real estate to Google and make a profit.
I have played with many flavours of Unix, Linux since '92 -- but the GUI is conflicted and never amounted to anything I will likely program. OS X is the best Unix that this old timer has used in my 23 years with the OS.
So where is the confusion? Anyone remember NeXT? I'll stick with OS X, tried and true.
I leave mine set at 20C / 68F. When the girls turn it up, I set it to 19C. Pretty soon it stays at 20 all the time.
The problem with open source -- the competition has imitated your product before you've recouped your R&D $. When you have a solution to that one, let me know.
Information technology as I was using it deals with the broader topic -- I have never considered this expression to mean just corporate server technology. Consumer electronics is what the PC was before it was adopted as a corporate solution. And, rather likely, this will be the fate of many of the items currently becoming popular as consumer devices -- iPhones, iPads, even Macs, as they increasingly show up at work, thumbing noses at antiquated corporate IT standards.
And the most successful, innovative IT company in recent years, where was Apple?
You can already get most of that information online. Last time I used 411.com they gave me phone number, complete postal address and even a handy map. Google the person's name and you get everything else they've done on the 'net in the past couple decades. So curse facebook if you must, then back into the sand with that head...
I thought I had 3mbps DSL but it was losing sync three times per day. I opened a support call and they derated my line to 1.5mpbs so that now it only goes down three times in a week!!! Now in canada they get to charge me extra for heavy down loading -- if only the piece of crap line works long enough for that. 3 mbps DSL? What planet?
'nough said -- this site needs a "like" button.
I set up a Mac Mini in my van this past summer. Not too hard to do. It is reasonably energy efficient and I readily found a DC-DC converter for it. I have a 7" touch screen on the dash, and have a BT keyboard in the glove box. I have MacGPS Pro and continent wide topomaps for my road trips. Connecting my laptop is just a matter of screen sharing via wifi. Whole setup with maps, software & hardware, cost about $1500. Rumour has it that this setup would play movies too, if Hollywood would only release anything worthwhile.
Ham to ham... hack it and produce an open source version. By definition, patents are only valuable to others who use the idea to make money. Case law is required for a patent to be worth anything.
It varies by locale perhaps, but nodedb was one of the early attempts at doing what got google into hot water.
Finally, Google managed what we tried to get going with http://www.nodedb.com/index.php ... ten years later.
This has got to be the height of irony. Lamenting, a commercial entity is dropping a project that doesn't make money... But, isn't the beauty of open source related to the fact that those who care, can pick up the source and make it work? So, prove it.
Anyone on this forum heard of TCP/IP? Maybe I am getting old, but I remember the internet as a DARPA project. Source got distributed and ported to whatever you OS you happened to be using. Sounds like open source to me.
The litres of fuel consumed per hundred kilometers are similar between say, the Camry and the Jetta TDI (2009) -- and this is partly due to the fact that diesel has more energy per litre than gasoline. (See wikipedia for a good explanation, if this isn't obvious.) However, the clean diesel has far lower emissions that gasoline hybrid engines in nearly every category, except CO2 -- CO2 tonnes over the life cycle of the vehicle is still expected to be somewhat higher than the hybrid gas. However, in my mind the effects of high amounts of CO are often much more directly felt than CO2. I recently built emissions models for both those vehicles, the results unfortunately on my hard drive at work, not here at my finger tips. Given the low emissions of a modern clean diesel engine, the motivation to go with a hybrid isn't at all clear.
I first started using Linux in about '93. It was great and I used it for many great things since. Around '98 I trashed my Windoze partition as nearly everything I wanted to do I could do using Linux... some things with a fair bit of pain, like WordPerfect pulling the plug on the Linux version. The first few compiles of Star Office/Open Office were brutal (it has been much better recently). OK, so I resigned myself to a laptop with Windows as a second machine. Windows was a piece of crap, but it had a working word processor and spreadsheet.
I suppose if I summarize what I find annoying about Linux, is that I was finding a lot of churn -- apps that came with a distro ended up changing as one on project got ahead of another. The main Linux distro only supporting their releases for 12 months, forcing you onto the upgrade treadmill if you wanted that bug fix. One of the reasons I loved Linux is that I was able to get ten years out of my hardware investment. But, I am finding more recently that much of the stuff I want to do with Linux requires fairly new hardware.
My brand new IBM ThinkPad with NT in 2000 had been only getting an hour on a battery -- the used iBook I picked up that year got six hours! I actually found a solution that didn't get in the way of getting my work done. And later with WiFi installed, I was still doing better than five hours. A couple of years later ThinkPad came out with a new version that was supposed to have WiFi built in. It never did work properly, and the user interface seemed sooo bad after having used the Mac. I only had that TP for about six weeks and I turned it back in -- my next lap top was a PowerBook.
With OS X, bash, and the X server, I could do many of the things that I had done on Linux... in fact I had it set up so that I used the PB as an X workstation initially. Then came the crack down on security where the next release of Linux disabled that feature by default. I dug out vi and changed the configuration so that that the PB was still my X workstation for while. But, by the time the upgrade over-wrote the config file on Linux and disabled the feature on me again, I'd decided to change the way I do things. I was getting accustomed to the OS X UI and it was slowly eroding my interest in jumping through hoops to get an inferior UI.
I kept hearing how this release is going to be it, the one where Linux is going become big on the desktop. Ok, I thought as little as a year ago, I will configure IPtables firewall on Linux using the new GUI. Splat... as I hit wall after wall. In the end I dove into vi to set the configuration I needed. And it worked great, until a few weeks later I ended up using the firewall UI to tweak a minor parameter unrelated to what I had used vi to add, but the UI chose to delete my vi added parameter presumably because it couldn't understand it. This isn't the only experience that sucked... I could go on. Over the years I'd gotten a number of people to switch away from Windows onto Linux. But invariably, these people switched to a Mac within a couple of years. The getting of a GUI for Linux has been over a decade now, and we still haven't arrived there folks. Even as Linux coders poke fun at the expression paradigm shift, it is exactly what is happening.
Why is Mac OS X gaining a lot of mindshare these days?
1, the user interface is designed around how people think (moreso than Windows or Linux).
2, the tools are generally provided for advanced users to get what they need, and the UI responds gracefully and doesn't usually break in such a circumstance.
3, the whole hardware and software integration, plus the reasonably intuitive UI, results in a predictable environment conducive to getting work done.
4, there are a fair number of really good, really powerful, really easy to use apps for OS X.
5, OS X is "UNIX", and that is what some of us really liked about Linux.
The guys working on Linux are doing a great job. Some of it is trying to make Linux more like Windows -- that
My second machine is an AMD K6-2 which shows up on boot as a 586 -- Fedora liveCDs refuse to boot for some strange reason. Same problem with Fedora 7. Yet, I installed it from the installation repository and it runs fine to this day. One of the reasons I run Linux is because I am fed up with the new computer every three years nonsense requisite in the windoze arena. One of the strengths of Linux is that it runs on older stock. I hope we don't shed that valuable asset as Linux becomes increasingly mainstream. -- ER
Sorry, slashdot has the unchallenged monopoly for "knee jerk reactionary idiots." I spent my undergrad studying evolutionary theory, and it has been disproven and changed several times since Darwin originated it. Even in its current form, paleontologists are at odds with the biologists, and It is still a theory though interesting, and still far from proven. In Galileo's time, the powers that be may have carried the name Catholic, but unfortunately they gave contrarians as much consideration as slashdotters give alternative hypotheses today. People who don't learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.
Exactly right, it seems the penny dropped at slashdot. Speaking as a canadian, let me assure you that Canada is one of the world's most overtaxed nations. Is that possibly one of the big reasons that they are not keeping people who earn higher than average salaries? The high taxes go to fund programs costing 700 million, said to help stop people from leaving the country?! Talk about a circular argument. Contrary to popular opinion, socialism didn't die with the Soviet Union, it's kicking in the throes of yet another dieing nation.