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Golden Gate Bridge To Eliminate Tollbooths
Hugh Pickens writes writes "The San Francisco Chronicle reports that tollbooths and toll collectors, a fixture at the Golden Gate Bridge since it opened in 1937, will be eliminated starting in 2012 as the bridge moves to an all-electronic system, cutting 34 jobs and saving $19.2 million over the first eight years. The bridge will move to a toll collection strategy that combines the existing FasTrak system with one that photographs the license plates of cars going through the toll plaza and mails a bill to the registered owners. Other structures and bridges have successfully gone to all-electronic tolls, including the Sydney Harbor Bridge in Australia and the Leeville Bridge in Louisiana, but not everyone is happy with the change. 'This is a world-famous bridge, and you need a human face,' says Philip Hynes. 'You need people in those toll booths to greet people.'"
I'd much rather cruise through tolls without having to stop, and I really have no desire to see these human toll booth operators.
No you don't.
You need to eliminate the 5-minute backup at the toll booth, and thereby save yourself ~2000 hours over a lifetime. You don't need the human face, just as you don't need an operator asking, "Number please?" on the telephone.
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When will they and all the other us systems link up with ez-pass?
Further, what these idiots fail to realize is that all those cars idling at and then accelerating away from the tollbooths add up to a huge emissions source - something which California says they're always concerned about.
In the last decade they added "Open-road tolling" on the tollways around Chicago - the air quality was measurably improved in the areas near the toll-collection sites.
The bridges in the bay area are also major commuter routes - eliminating the requirement for every car to stop at a toll booth can only improve traffic flow.
For everyone who loves the toll collectors, I bet there are hundreds who hate them. I remember a story in one of the Chicago papers about all the bad things people would do to the toll collectors - like heating up coins using the car's cigarette lighter before giving them to the collector. The exhaust gasses those folks have to breathe all day can't be good for them either.
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So, $19.2 million, divided by 8 years, divided by 34 people equals...
The toll-collectors get paid $70K per year?
That cost probably includes their medical insurance, the employer's portion of SS and other taxes, vacation time, etc.
Tolls waste a lot of time and money in an attempt to spread the cost of the road to the people that 'use' it, but this doesn't work. Everyone benefits from the road system. Even if you don't own a car, the goods and services you use rely on them. Adding tolls just increases the cost of those goods and services, so the entire toll industry is a waste of time. Just tax people evenly for the roads we all rely on and skip the wasteful toll booths and electronics.
Oh, it's tremendous fun to go through an automated toll with a rental car. First the toll authority sends a bill for $1 to the rental company. Then the rental company charges your card (that's still in their system) for $15 based on the fine print in the rental agreement. A run through a lengthy toll road with five or six toll monitors results in individual bills for each one and can get you a bill from the rental company for a hundred or more.
Salaries aren't the only cost. Don't forget health insurance and pension plan. Plus the cost of maintaining the actual booths. Plus the armored trucks that have to carry a few tons of quarters every day.
You buy a sticker to put on the inside of your windshield. It costs ~32€ and is good for a year. With that, you can drive anywhere, without any further tolls. Switzerland has butt-loads of tunnels and bridges that they have to maintain, and their autobahns are some of the best I have ever driven on. They are probably cleaner than most surgical operating room in the world.
In Italy, they have some kind of electronic subscription sticker system that lets you get through the toll booths fast. Or you can just shove in your EC bank card or credit card at unmanned booths. They do have folks at a few toll booths. On my last trip there, I saw that a lot of tourists would hold up maps, and ask the toll collector for advice. So maybe tossing the human element out is not such a great idea.
In Germany there are no tolls, and on a lot of the autobahns, no speed limit. Their autobahn motto is: "Drive fast, die young, leave a beautiful, mangled corpse."
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The cost of an employee is usually around double that employee's salary (benefits, substitute cover when they are off, equipment, and so on). They're also going to be saving a lot if they're not handling cash anymore.
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And how about all the people who don't update their registration when they move? Rental cars?
And what do you do if the bill isn't paid? Suspend the registration? Cali can't do that to out of state plates or plates from Canada/Mexico.
I wonder if the added bureaucracy and paperwork for collections is going to nullify the gains they make by not collecting at the bridge.
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Take a look at Locans and Tourists #3: San Francisco, a map of geotagged photos of San Francisco based on a 'tourist' vs 'resident' heuristic (tourists take photos all at once; residents take them over a period of months). San Francisco is a divided city.
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Why? What have they done. Or is it because they are the minions of the people who put the rules in place? In that case, is it OK to hate the military people for doing the same?
Because then I am confused, because I admire what they do but hat why they do it.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
If you get paid $50k a year your employer is paying close to $70k to keep you as an employee.
or do you think that health insurance, workers comp, 401k, etc are all magically free?
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What's wrong with hatting the military?
Nothing really. A bit redundant in all, they already have hats. But if you insist....
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Not everyone wants to.
There is nothing soul crushing about doing the job to which are best suited.
We are currently overcompensating some segments of our society because the wealthy have (temporarily) built a ring around certain jobs and then are passing them on to their children. It won't hold. There just is no value to paying a CEO 100 million dollars when the similar CEO in china or india is doing just as good a job for 1 million dollars a year.
Overcompensating them makes people envy them even tho they would be unhappy in those jobs.
There are lots of people of low to average IQ who are happy with a relatively mindless job surrounded by pleasant work buddies.
But you are right- those jobs can be automated. (and are being automated). The end result will not be that those people suddenly become smarter, talented, and capable of doing jobs that require high intelligence or talent.
So what happens to them when their jobs are automated away and there are no other jobs to go to?
They can vote or swing a club or shoot a gun perfectly well. They'll get unhappy when they have nothing to do- no money to spend- and folks act like it's their fault.
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