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Egyptians Find New Ways To Get Online
angry tapir writes "Groups like We Rebuild have scrambled to keep Egypt connected to the outside world, turning to landline telephones, fax machines and even ham radio to keep information flowing in and out of the country. Although one Internet service provider — Noor Group — remains in operation, Egypt's government abruptly ordered the rest of the country's ISPs to shut down their services just after midnight local time Thursday. Mobile networks have also been turned off in some areas."
a first post.....
This is the first post.
Egyptians are in Africa. Does that make them niggers?
By the way, the great civilization of Ancient Egypt was NOT black people. They tell them that shit to make them feel better about themselves. Political correctness bullshit is all about "feeling good" for no reason instead of feeling good about actual achievement. Nope. It was the Aryans who built the great Ancient Egypt. There has never been a truly successful black nation and probably never will be. Just look to Haiti for an example:
"The present condition of Haiti gives the best possible answer to the question, and, considering the experiment has lasted for a century, perhaps also a conclusive one. For a century the answer has been working itself out there in flesh and blood. The Negro has had his chance, a fair field, and no favor. He has had the most beautiful and fertile of the Caribees for his own; he has had the advantage of excellent French laws; he inherited a made country, with Cap Haitien [A once beautiful town on the north coast of Haiti] for its Paris. . . . Here was a wide land sown with prosperity, a land of wood, water, towns and plantations, and in the midst of it the Black man was turned loose to work out his own salvation. What has he made of the chances that were given to him? . . .
At the end of a hundred years of trial how does the Black man govern himself? What progress has he made? Absolutely none."
- Hesketh Prichard
Just make sure they stay clear of areas where "fireworks" are going off.
A regime that tries to shut down all means for its population to communicate is one that does not deserve to continue.
Yeah, I'm as old as my UID would suggest.
The last thing Egyptians and anybody should care about is their Internet access.
This uprising has fuck all to do with social media, the Internet, etc. Most Egyptians live on less than $2 a day and don't have Internet access.
Get some fucking priorities. The West's obsession with the role technology is playing in this situation is completely overstated and overblown.
Be nice if the united states supported the egyptian people.
Seems we're not really all that big on the whole 'freedom' thing after all... We're still hoping our bff stays in charge of egypt.
If egypt does get their freedom... I hope they remember we sold the egyptian goverment the weapons being used on civilians right now.
Sometimes the usa deserves the hate it gets. Ok.. most times... the us goverment anyway.
Please be IPoAC, please...
Do you think people are goin to use the same ISPs that cooperated in abusing them when all is said and done? Any company cowering while others die in the streets deserves to go the same way of that flawed regime.
no matter what country such civil unrest aka revolutions happen they would cut or massively try to control any form of mass communication. the usa may be the exeption to it due to are free speech right but are gov has no issues stepping on it when it pleases them so its a toss up if the usa would attempt such action in a revolt. you defently what low tech solutions like ham and cb communicate with in a revolt being anything corp owned would be useless at best. but really ham isnt low tech it can handel data even full web on d-star models.
Did my own piece on this this morning, got some links of interest in it. http://mobilitydigest.com/preventing-protester-communication-not-so-easy/
Then why does the list of Obama's friends who are exempt from participating grow longer by the day?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jan/28/tawdry-details-of-obamacare-420960137/
That's exactly what I thought too! Good ol' RFC1149.
Weaselmancer
rediculous.
Can we actually see a resurgence in popularity of RFC 2549?
If you wanted to get me out into the streets, cutting off the internet would be the way to do it. Not so much complaining about tyranny, but because I'm no longer wasting the day watching videos of other people's cats.
- RG>
Hey pal, this isn't a pleasantforest, so don't waste my time with pleasantries!
to get online: FidoNet
Wired also has a wiki titled "Communicate if Your Government Shuts Off Your Internet." It has some interesting thoughts on things like ad-hoc networking, satelite, and even packet radio.
This bit I found interesting: "Apple computers tend to have very accessible Ad-Hoc functionality built in, including a pre-installed chat client (iChat) that will automatically set up an Ad-Hoc "Rendezvous" chatroom between anybody on the network, without the need for an external service like AIM or Skype. Ad-hoc network hosting functionality is built in to the Wifi menu." On Windows PCs, it's almost as easy, but it requires software which is not installed by default.
Even oboma told there president he better change his ways or this would happen and well he didn't listion.(sic)
Actually it was Bush who said that :
Oddly enough--- only the last Administration with President Bush and Secretary Condi Rice has ever taken a strong reform position with Mubarak.
Obama has either been silent, or supportive of Egypt as it is - don't forget he went to Cairo to speak not that long ago.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
This is actually something we need to think about at work a "Internet kill switch." What I mean by that is let's say there is a massive amount of attacks coming from all over the net, that we cannot mitigate or shut out. We need to cut our losses until it is over or something can be done, we need to shut down the Internet. Well, just pulling the connection physically would work to some extent, since it is a single building, but actually would result in loss to some pretty critical stuff. We really need to set up an emergency procedure so that we can cut off the net at large, but maintain connections to our critical servers if we need it.
...shuts down the internet, shut down your government":
http://i.imgur.com/YU3Ww.jpg
(sorry in case this has already been posted).
So why aren't we all phoning a random number in Egypt once a day and asking if there's anything they want us to put on the interwebs for them?
Please consider this account deleted, I just can't be bothered with the spam anymore.
In that case, our government seems to be sending a mixed message by adding the internet kill-switch back into proposed legislation...
Sensationalist headlines aside, care to point out where the aforementioned bill says anything about shutting down communications? From my reading its about isolating the networks on which high value infrastructure is located, not shutting down anyone's communication. More reading, less rhetoric please.
What you don't seem to get that is that "isolating the networks" is exactly how you shut down communications. How else would you do it, besides pulling the plug entirely?
Also, the other important piece here is that according to the blll, Judicial Review is explicitly denied
A company that objects to being subject to the emergency regulations is permitted to appeal to DHS secretary Janet Napolitano. But her decision is final and courts are explicitly prohibited from reviewing it.
So if anything can be declared "critical infrastructure" and isolated without benefit of the courts, any communication can be shut down. The attempt to avoid judicial review is on page 403 of the bill, if you care to read it yourself.
My understanding is that if you use a ham radio to vew the internet you can't go to any web page with an add on it.
Finally, fully Muslim Egypt! That's what all egyptians want, except from zionist traitor Mubrak, and we will prevail! Death to all zionist americans! Mulsim Egypt only! Allahu Akbar!
A communications disruption could mean only one thing: invasion.
I am armed because I am free. I am free because I am armed.
the US government has been consistent for decades that they do not deserve to continue.
All governments, as macro pseudo-organisms, sufficiently mimic life that they have their own survival instinct. Any government - every government - when faced with its own imminent mortality, WILL do anything necessary to prolong its survival.
This is precisely why revolutions are cyclically necessary in human civilization: the Beast has to be killed off every so often because it will never simply retire.
SLASHDOT & CIA
My concern is that while the world is focused on communications, government-subsidized foods like bread and other essentials, are being withheld. Food distribution and delivery is disrupted and stores spike the price of food products, thus people can not afford to feed their families. Is anyone aware of people and organizations which can and have overcome this challenge like farm-to-city transport or outside assistance from a bordering or neighboring country. Timing is everything and people starving quickly outstrips communication unless the two can flow together. This is my hope and the reason I am writing...just in time..I hope. Thank you and I appreciate your suggestions.
Surf like an Egyptian. Really makes me wonder what would happen here in the US if the government though they could get away with it during an "emergency."
The distance record for directional wifi is over 300km. So the answer is to have Isp's fund a mobile relay station (land or sea) that sets up when the network goes down, outside the affected country/area, and then people can tune up their pringle's can antenna skills, or whatever to link up. This would be helpful with unintentional outages, like earthquakes or hurricanes, too. The mobile relay stations could be on call to get set up wherever they are needed rather than each Isp having to buy them.
Why should i care about the Egyptians? They celebrated in the streets for the attack on 911? And there president denounced the attacks. Sorry not feeling there problems here.
Jack of all trades,master of none
If / when Mubarak is taken down, The Muslim Brotherhood will slowly take over, not a pro-Western, pro-freedom movement of the people. We in the West (especially in the US) have this pollyannaish belief that once a tin-pot dictator is overthrown, said country will instantly and permanently become Switzerland or California. This 'Cairo Spring' may well turn out to be a long, cold winter for all the Mid-East and Israel specifically (re-encirclement).
A good thing the french have set up a line for the egyptians to use, to offer free dial up...
Quick, we need to send them 1.5 million free-trial AOL CDs!
French Data Network (FDN), the oldest French isp, fighting for an open Internet, Net neutrality, against HADOPI etc., also did it's share.
FDN opened an account dedicated. See : Internet Censorship in Egypt: a humble action from FDN
Even Google is getting in on the act http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/110201-022612
guess when one of their own go missing they start being interested