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MPAA Threatens To Disconnect Google From Internet

An anonymous reader writes "Over the last few months, Google has received more than 100 copyright infringement warnings from MPAA-affiliated movies studios. Most are directed at users of Google's public Wi-Fi service, but others are meant for Google employees. The MPAA is thus warning the search giant that it might get disconnected from the Internet. Although the copyright holders use strong language, these notices are simply warnings, and typically do not lead to legal action."

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  1. I will be very honest by kthreadd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I won't be sad the day the movie industry goes out of business. I've found other ways to find entertainment which does not involve them. Everything does not have to last forever.

    1. Re:I will be very honest by Moryath · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What amazes me is - this is precisely the same crap the Cult of Scientology keeps doing.

      Has anyone ever noticed how many MafiAA bigwigs are also Scientologists? Anyone think there might be a connection?

    2. Re:I will be very honest by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's not illegal to quote PUBLIC GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS - So ruled the Supreme Court of these United States

      US District Court, Central District of California
      Fishman Case # 91-6426 HLH (Tx) Continued
                          Exhibit B
                          Dismas House, Room 324
                          141 N. W. 1st Avenue
                          Dania, Florida 33004
                                  ON CONTROL AND LYING
                                  ____________________

      THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can
      write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you
      can control anybody is to lie to them. When you find an individual
      is lying to you, you know that the individual is trying to control
      you. One way or another this individual is trying to control
      you. That is the mechanism of control. This individual is lying to
      you because he is trying to control you - because if they give you
      enough misinformation they will pull you down the tone scale so that
      they can control you. Conversely, if you see an impulse on the part
      of a human being to control you, you know very well that that human
      being is lying to you. Not "is going to", but "is" lying to you.

      [last sentence is underlined in original]

      Check these facts, you will find they are always true. That person
      who is trying to control you is lying to you. He's got to tell you
      lies in order to continue control, because the second you start
      telling anybody close to the truth, you start releasing him and
      he gets tougher and tougher to control. So, you can't control
      somebody without telling them a bunch of lies. You will find that
      very often Command has this as its greatest weakness. It will try to
      control instead of leading. The next thing you know, it is lying to
      the [illegible]. Lie, lie, lie, and it gets worse and worse, and all
      of a sudden the thing blows up. Well, religion has done this.
      [Following sentence is underlined] Organised religion
      tries to control, so therefore must be lying. [end underline]
      After a while it figures out (even itself) that it is lying, and then
      it starts down tone scale further and further, and all of a sudden
      people get down along this spring-like bottom (heresy) and say,
      "Are we going into apathy and die, or are we going to revolt?"
      and they revolt, because you can only lie to people so long.
      Unfortunately there is always a new cycle of lying.

                                                        L. Ron Hubbard
                                                        Technique 88

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  2. Re:Moving the earth rather than changing themselve by Oxford_Comma_Lover · · Score: 5, Funny

    > No law is adequate, no business is more important, no constitutional right can supersede the wishes of the commercial content industry.

    G'kar, I know your government did some sketchy things to raise money during the Earth-Mimbari war, but speaking for the MPAA? Dude, go back to the arms sales. Much more honorable.

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  3. Re:Illegal Threats? by Locke2005 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think the word you're looking for is "barratry".

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  4. Re:I think it's time by nametaken · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can't happen. Google can't delist swaths of multi-billion dollar entertainment companies responsible for generating the bulk of popular culture. They'd sink their own battleship.

    Google is strong because their search engine is strong. Take that away and they're not the Google we know today.

    That's not to say it wouldn't be awesome to see, though. :)

  5. Re:I think it's time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can see it now:

    "No results found for 'MPAA'. Did you mean 'NAMBLA'?"

  6. Re:I think it's time by blair1q · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was going to make the joke "Who's MPAA? Google search turns up nothing."

    Then I could say "Bing doesn't have anything either. WTF?"

    But it's just too easy.

  7. Re:I think it's time by Chyeld · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually no. It's a mutated urban legend based on the truth that they did refuse to speak to CNET's reporters for a year after CNET published an article containing a number of personal facts about Eric that they 'discovered' using Google.

  8. Re:Next week: DHS siezes Google domain name by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Interesting

    >>>RIAA and MPAA have managed to get a 'man inside' the DoJ and to harness the power of federal government to protect their interests under the guise of movies and songs being a national security issue

    Or as Thom. Jefferson wisely foresaw ~220 years ago:

    "Copyrights of this sort can be justified in very peculiar cases only, if at all; the danger being very great that the good resulting from the operation of the monopoly, will be overbalanced by the evil effect of the precedent. And it being possible that the monopoly itself, in its original operation, may produce more evil than good." - He must have used a crystal ball to see RIAA and MPAA colluding with the government to protect their assopoly,.

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  9. Re:I think it's time by blair1q · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google is several times larger than Hollywood.

    Remember, Hollywood is the land of hype. It makes itself look more profitable and important than it is, because that helps it sell itself and its products.

    The entire annual gross revenue of movies from the MPAA member studios (about $10 billion) is only a little bigger than Google's annual profit (about $7 billion).

    I'll say that again: Google's PROFIT is almost as big as Hollywood's REVENUE.

    Now, that doesn't include TV, home-video, and merchandising. But it should indicate that Google has a lot more say in how a head-to-head fight would go.

    Think of it this way. If Hollywood decided to start a software company and search engine and ad reseller and hire away Google's talent to do it, how would it do? And if Google decided to start a movie studio and hire away Hollywood's talent to do it, how would it do? Google's people are all salaried and sinecured. Hollywood's are a ravenous band of nomadic, mercenary contractors who go to the highest bidder without any concern for loyalty or decorum. And, once you've got the talent in place, good movies make themselves better without corporate involvement, since they make money by pulling in small but distinct segments of the overall market. But a Google-alike has to be able to please the entire planet all at once, something no Hollywood suit has ever accomplished and never will.

    Google would win, and end up owning both industries.

  10. Replace the MPAA by Enderandrew · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Instead of fighting the MPAA, Google could replace the MPAA.

    Google could approach each major studio and make a very clear case.

    We control the disemination of information in a major way. We control the distribution of content in a major way. You haven't figured out the online model yet. And while the RIAA was busy chasing Napster, Apple came along with iTunes and took over the music industry. What if we decided to start purchasing the rights to distribute films, and completely eliminated your current distribution system?

    We have the backbone to distribute them to theaters and invidual consumers just the same. And the people who would jump onboard first are the guys like James Cameron, Steve Speilberg, George Lucas, Chris Nolan, etc. that love to push innovation and new technology. The big blockbuster films that provide the bulk of your profit would disappear overnight.

    Or you can beg right now to be kept in the loop and cut a similar deal with us now, where we allow you to continue to distribute to theaters and just use Google to help distribute to video on demand, Google TV, etc. in the future.

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  11. Re:Next week: DHS siezes Google domain name by oracleguy01 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If, all of the sudden, Americans woke up one day and found Google (mind you, Amazon, Facebook, and a few other web presences would have a similar effect) gone, they would go into a frothing mad rage. As soon as one person pointed a finger at Hollywood or the DHS, you'd have a God damned holy war on your hands. We Americans are certainly passive little government lap dogs as long as we have a steady soma dose of useless crap pumped into our veins via T.V. and the internet. But if you cut off that IV, you will learn really quick like just how much rage a bunch of pissed off house wives that can no longer access their lolcats pictures can generate.

    "Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people – as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts... deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers... put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time... and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people will become as nasty and violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don't believe me? Look at those faces, look at their eyes..." - Quark

  12. Re:By what authority? by Bratmon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bribe money, the highest authority in the land.

  13. Re:Don't make me laugh! by ivoras · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unfortunately... probably not. As much as I'd like to see Google launch an "the end justifies the means" campaign and crush MPAA, after some thought I got pessimistic about the prospect. Though theoretically Google could maybe buy all MPAA members one by one, Google is "new money" compared to it and the battle would be far, far from easy and predictable. After some amount of $$ it matters who you know, not how much you have.

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  14. Re:I think it's time by brunes69 · · Score: 5, Informative

    All of the members of the MPAA combined have a market cap barely more than Google itself

    Disney - 82 billion
    Viacom - 26 billion
    News corp. - 44 billion
    Time Warner - 40 billion
    NBC Universal - 35 billion estimated
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    Total = 227 billion

    Google - 196 billion

  15. Re:More evidence of MPAA thuggery by RedACE7500 · · Score: 5, Informative

    at least not without the help of a Republican president.

    Who is it that's sitting in the White House, pushing for an internet kill switch and is already taking control of domains suspected of activities related to possible copyright infringement?

  16. Re:I think it's time by kthejoker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I love how you blithely limit the MPAA-members' financial clout to just their movie revnenue.

    We're talking about Sony, Disney, GE, NBC Universal, Viacom, NewsCorp, and Time Warner here. They've got a lot more money than just the movie business, if they are so inclined to throw it around.