DailyMotion Now Streaming Live News

An anonymous reader writes "Beet.TV reports that DailyMotion has begun streaming live news from Al Jazeera, BBC, and France 24 among others. They write, 'Paris-based DailyMotion, the world's second biggest online video site, has integrated with London-based live news portal Livestation to provide a number of live streaming television news networks including Al Jezeera, Bloomberg, the BBC, France 24, and sources from other nations as well as from oganizations including the United Nations and NASA.'"

Comments

Link

[tenZygzak]

http://www.dailymotion.pl/livestation

Re:strange story

[cpicon92]

I just tried it. HTML5 doesn't work with the live streaming (at least for the time being).

BBC Licensing

[stepdown]

Does anybody know if streaming BBC news in this manner requires you to have a license fee?

I think the position, at least on the BBC's own site, is that while you can play pre-recorded shows without one, a license is required to stream BBC programs live which was clarified with the release of smartphone apps.

Re:BBC Licensing

[kwark]

Depends, do you live in the UK? Then yes. Any apparatus capable of receiving live TV programmes needs to be licensed, there is not limitation to iplayer.

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/downloads/what-if-tv-licence-is-not-needed/NoLicenceNeeded.pdf
1. Purpose
1.1 To state the BBCs policy with respect to those places, occupied as residential
        accommodation and non-residential premises, whose occupier has declared
        that there is no television receiving equipment being used at the address to
        receive live broadcasts (known as making a No Licence Needed claim).
1.2 Note that ,,television receiving equipment refers to any apparatus used for
        receiving (by any means) any television programme service as defined in the
        Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004.
(http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2004/692/regulation/11/made)
1.3 Note also that "received" means receiving a TV programme as it is being
        broadcast on TV. It does not include receiving programmes by means of a
        DVD or the on-demand elements of services such as i-Player.

Re:BBC Licensing

[Anonymous Coward]

"Without knowing the specifics of how it's being done, I'll point out is possible to receive BBC transmissions outside of the United Kingdom"

It's called Free To Air satellite TV, which includes all BBC channels, Five, most of the ITV and Channel4 channels (not all +1 variants and HDTV channels are FTA) and bunch of other crap on Astra 2 transponders.

Re:BBC Licensing

[Verunks]

this is BBC world not BBC 1/2/3, I can watch it for free via sat or dtv and I'm not in uk, I think it's free all over the world

Re:BBC Licensing

[gilgongo]

"Any apparatus capable of receiving live TV programmes needs to be licensed"

Sigh. No, the policy you quote does not say that. It says no licence is needed if the "occupier has declared that there is no television receiving equipment being used at the address to receive live broadcasts".

Re:BBC Licensing

[camperslo]

The BBC provides service in many different languages and to many regions. Under pressure to cut costs, some cutbacks are planned. They want to hear from those affected to gauge impact.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12283356

Re:BBC Licensing

[kwark]

Is my English really that bad, that I made the wrong conclusion. I'll repeat it:
"Any apparatus capable of receiving live TV programmes needs to be licensed"
Now your statement:
"It says no licence is needed if the "occupier has declared that there is no television receiving equipment being used at the address to receive live broadcasts"
Now remove the double negatives:
"It says a licence is needed if the "occupier has declared that there is a television receiving equipment being used at the address to receive live broadcasts"

Now the only thing to argue about is: what is a television set and what is a live broadcast. Respectively handled by points 1.2 and 1.3 of the NoLicenseNeeded.pdf:
"1.2: any apparatus, receiving by any means"
There is no restriction on technology or carrier nor on device.

"1.3: as it is being broadcast on TV"
Not only at the same moment/timeframe (simulcast). But also just like seen on TV (a continues stream) as opposed to on-demand selecting of a single programme.

Nope it's here.

[Anonymous Coward]

No, it's here. There's no need for signing up for anything.

A little summary of how things are now...

[Nrrqshrr]

Al Jazeera's and Al Arabia's main audiences are Arabic ones. And, only lately, did the average Abd El Mottalib discover that Facebook and Youtube could be used for something else other than shitty oriental\pop culture star stalking.
Only after the Tunisian revolution did Al Arabia (The second largest arabic news channel) start advertising their online live streaming news and Facebook insta-notifications (I don't really know when did Al Jazeera start doing that, never cared about that one).

Point is, Arabic news channels only discovered that the internets could be useful in brain washing after the recent events, the same day dictatorships discovered it. The fact that Dailymotion jumps in the bandwagon this late is rather... "Meh".

Re:A little summary of how things are now...

[mr100percent]

Al Jazeera has been broadcasting online for at least 3 years, when I started watching online. They do podcast some of their shows and have some pretty quality international reporters. Livestation.com is where they mainly stream from

Re:strange story

[mspohr]

It's a big deal to have Al Jazeera in the USA. Most cable systems don't carry it out of a kind of xenophobic fear of a "foreign" point of view.

What is new?

[Memroid]

I'm confused. Didn't Livestation already exist? What is DailyMotion bringing to the picture?

This Content is not Available

[iknowcss]

I've been dying to have access to BBC World streaming, but apparently being in the US prevents me from receiving European propaganda. Anyone know how I can watch this without getting the ever infuriating "this content is not available for your country"?

Re:This Content is not Available

[ocdscouter]

From what I can tell, convincing the BBC to renegotiate its North American licensing and distribution arrangements is your best bet. I too find it a bit aggravating.

Re:This Content is not Available

[Thing 1]

Get an AWS account, then set one up in an EU theatre. You'll probably have to double-download (watching from a remote machine might not be pleasant) but at least you'll be able to get the content. By the way, AWS is Amazon Web Services, and you can run a free mini-instance forever.

Re:This Content is not Available

[david.given]

By the way, AWS is Amazon Web Services, and you can run a free mini-instance forever.

Are you sure? According to their Free Usage Tier page, you only get the free 750 hours of micro instance usage per month for the first 12 months --- after which you have to pay. Unless there's information elsewhere I don't know about?

Re:This Content is not Available

[atchijov]

Buy VPN service from one of UK companies like http://www.ukproxyserver.co.uk/info/uk-tv-streaming/ It works nicely.

Re:This Content is not Available

[isorox]

I've been dying to have access to BBC World streaming, but apparently being in the US prevents me from receiving European propaganda.

BBC World is a commercial channel, its funding comes from advertising and distribution contracts in many regions. American cable companies pay the BBC to carry BBC World, streaming it to the public over the internet would hinder future negotiations.

Likewise, streaming the domestic BBC News channel would impact this, however has the additional problem that sometimes the domestic channel broadcasts things from wires that the BBC only has UK rights for.

Re:This Content is not Available

[Thing 1]

Aha! Thanks, figured there was a catch in there somewhere. Still, great price to get started with.

Re:This Content is not Available

[david.given]

Damn!

Oh, well...

Re:strange story

[commodore6502]

I get al-Jazerra from LINK TV and MHZ in Washington and Philadelphia via antenna television (free). Probably other locations as well. And they show Chinese daily news in the original mandarin

http://www.linktv.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MHz_Worldview

Overrated

[omb]

All this watch this crap is just a huge waste of time,

If you can read, and I know that is now rare in the US just do that,

If you have an imagination too the Porn is better.

Re:Overrated

[foobsr]

If you can read, and I know that is now rare in the US just do that.

You did not realize that semi-literacy is compensated by the super-human ability to simultaneously stream input from different sources (aka multitasking) in this digital age, did you? This of course also voids your argument regarding 'waste of time'.

Besides, the phenomenon seems to be global, so the US may not claim to have the lead here.

CC.

Al Jazeera has been available in the US for YEARS

[Bob Cat - NYMPHS]

It's on the Internet, though, and I know most slashdotters don't use that much.

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

Also on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/aljazeeraenglish

The ./ editors must be getting kickbacks from that beat.tv blog and dailymotion to run such a lame story.

I'd be surprised

[stalky14]

...if BBC News is available in the US. Their live streams always seem to be blocked here, despite being freely available (as well as by FTA satellite) in many other countries. Presumably they have a US distributor they want to protect, but AFAIK BBC World is only available on 3 carriers in the US: Verizon Fios, Cox, and Cablevision in NYC. If you are outside their territories you are SOL. They used to offer a poor quality stream on Real Networks' streaming package, but it was overpriced ($20) a month and came with a lot of unwanted crap. It's a shame. I'd happily pay them $5 a month (or pay Dish Network *AHEM* $5 a month) for access. Oh well.

Dailymotion also good for soccer highlights

[ub3r n3u7r4l1st]

They are not subject to the DMCA. You can find large number of highlights from matches happened just a few hours ago, and a lot more if you been given the "hidden" link to the video.

Re:strange story

[martin-boundary]

Does Google know something we don't??

"en esta capital" in Spanish translates to "in Beijing" in English!

Google uses machine translation, which is typically probability based. The translations for word phrases of various lengths are learned automatically from collections of primary documents. Then, when a phrase like "en esta capital" is seen, there are several subphrases like "en esta" and "esta capital" which can give different translations. The highest probability match over all the recognized phrases in the sentence (more or less, without getting technical) is what gives the translation. That's why translations often look weird, there's no underlying semantic modelling.

Re:Orange's gonna take over the internet!

[martin-boundary]

Don't be silly. In France, people from the French government are working with all the major French corporations. It's a revolving door going both ways at that level.

somewhat useless in America

[atarione]

meh...

sooo... I can't watch the god damn bbc news channel in English *not available for your country**

but i can watch France24 (English) or bbc Persia or of course bbc world service radio....

quite useful indeed.... once I learn Persian that is... i did learn that i'm not that interested in France 24 (English) or in French however so that is something.

i realize it is more of a dream now than ever, but it would be nice if stuff was either 'on the internet" for everyone or just not on the internet at all fucking sick of content you can or can't view depending on what country you are in... WORLD WIDE WEB motherfuckers =p

Re:somewhat useless in America

[Compaqt]

Download the Livestation desktop app. There are more channels than just the ones shown on the website. Some NY/LA local channels, too.

Livestation's not at critical mass yet, but it's nice for some uses.

Re:Al Jazeera has been available in the US for YEA

[Anonymous Coward]

English.aljazeera.net's streaming video stutters and has low resolution. Livestation and the bunch have HD streaming for paid customers.
However, Youtube has 720p HD streaming for free! Just select 720p for the resolution and display it fullscreen

LinkTV carrying Al-Jazeera is recent

[rsborg]

... probably due to AJE's spectacular, consistent coverage of the Egyptian revolution.

Re:LinkTV carrying Al-Jazeera is recent

[commodore6502]

Is it? I've been watching al-Jazeera for two years now. Maybe I was watching it on the MHz network then? I honestly didn't pay much attention - I just know it's channel WYBE 35-2 or 35-3

Recording Livestation streams

[Compaqt]

Anybody have an easy solution for this?

Or even a hacky Linuxy solution?

I know that VLC can record mms streams, but Livestation doesn't seem to expose the mms address.

Re:Al Jazeera has been available in the US for YEA

[textstring]

Or the one-liner to watch AJE from the command-line:
rtmpdump -v -r rtmp://livestfslivefs.fplive.net/livestfslive-live/ -y "aljazeera_en_veryhigh?videoId=747084146001&lineUpId=&pubId=665003303001&playerId=751182905001&affiliateId=" -W "http://admin.brightcove.com/viewer/us1.24.04.08.2011-01-14072625/federatedVideoUI/BrightcovePlayer.swf -p "http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ -a "aljazeeraflashlive-live?videoId=747084146001&lineUpId=&pubId=665003303001&playerId=751182905001&affiliateId=" | mplayer -
Other 24/7 live RTMP streams here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/564760/

Re:strange story

[Jasonjk74]

Here's another location where you can find it, in addition to news from numerous other countries. http://wwitv.com/portal.htm

Using the desktop client in Debian/Ubuntu 64-bit

[moonbender]

They've got Linux downloads, including a .deb, even. However, the current version is "[n]ot currently compatible with x64-based Linux due to incompatibilities with the libraries." I could still install it using sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture /tmp/Livestation-3.2.0-i386.deb, and it seems to work fine (on Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit). It makes you register an account on first startup (or use your existing one, obviously), but it's quick and using completely bogus info works fine.