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Nvidia Demos 'Kal-El' Quad-Core Tegra Mobile CPU
MojoKid writes "Nvidia just took the wraps off their first quad-core Tegra mobile processor design at the Mobile World Conference today and it's a sight to behold. Dubbed Kal-El, the new chip will be capable of outputting 1440P video content and offer 300 DPI on devices with a 10.1" display. Nvidia is claiming that Kal-El will deliver 5x the performance of Tegra 2 and ship with a 12-core GeForce GPU as well. The company has also posted two different videos of Kal-El in action."
Slated for the next four years are "Wayne", "Logan", "Powdered Toast Man", and "The Tick".
finally, we get our high-resolution screens?
Too bad it'll probably be at the cost of having to upgrade everything to blu-ray 2.0 or something...
People, what a bunch of bastards
You'll be just as disappointed as I was. It doesn't fly at all.
So performance similar to a Core 2 Duo (T72000) in a phone? Sa-weet! Gimme a dock so I can plug my 'phone' into and use my monitor/mouse/keyboard/internet connection, and that's all the computer I'll need for most purposes. I'll figure up the big boy when I need to use Photoshop or other intensive things.
Geez, I'm made of kryptonite. This is unfair!
They write nothing about power consumption... I am disappointed. The most important benchmark of a mobile CPU is power consumption, I can stick a atom in a cellphone to get a lot of cpu power, but the batteries will be toast in no time.
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They essentially have doubled the core count 2 cores, to 4 cores. They are essentially they same cores.
Are they running at 2.5X the clock speeds as well?? I seriously doubt it.
Really this goes beyond exaggeration, it is more like pure false advertising.
According to Nvidia's press release, the chip is more powerful than a locomotive and able to leap buildings in a single bound. Powered by Earth's yellow sun, its only weakness is kryptonite.
The math IS screwy - 2 times better CPU performance (the benchmarks THEY show even show this - it's the same clock speed, same CPU cores), 3 times better GPU performance.
You don't get to add those numbers.
Still, being able to dance with a Core 2 Duo is pretty damn good.
...named of course after terrorist mastermind Kalel Sheikh Mohammed.
What is this bullshit? Can you just give us the maximum framebuffer dimension and refresh rate? Why do people STILL think you need more "graphics power" and more video memory to display 1024*768 on a 27" screen than 1024*768 on a 21" screen? What the hell...
Why'd they codename the chipset after Nicholas Cages kid? ...
I can't wait for AMD/ATI to come out with their new GPU code named Kryptonite!
the real question is can it decode 1080P high profile h264, or did they shit the bed again.
Their demonstration showed 2560x1440 content.
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The size of the screen is used in conjunction with the DPI, not the raw resolution.
double cpus, double gpus and double memory bandwidth. Yea, it really is about twice as fast.
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If you use 300DPI in conjunction with a 10.1" display (assuming 16:9 ratio), you get ~2560x1440 resolution. The math isn't hard.
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Mentioning DPI is a useless measurement. This is how we can tell nVidia is clawing desperately at nothing trying to market something that isn't worth half a shit anyways.
When companies start going by absolutely useless metrics (DPI is PURELY dependent upon the screen maker,) you know they've hit a hard spot and are doing ANYTHING to make money - INCLUDING LYING.
And nVidia is definitely lying/intentionally misleading customers by trying to claim there's enough power to push a certain resolution @ 300DPI.
Looks like my next card purchase will be Matrox. I'm done gaming anyways, nothing has been innovative since Portal.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
I wonder when the requirements of a solar array on the roof comes out. Also make sure you don't have any green glowing rocks around you might end up with a BSoD or a segmentation fault somewhere.
Mentioning DPI is a useless measurement. This is how we can tell nVidia is clawing desperately at nothing trying to market something that isn't worth half a shit anyways.
Uh-huh.
As I understand it this chip is aimed at netbooks, which typically have 10" displays with too few pixels to display much (e.g. mine is 1024x600, which is too small to be really usable for many GUI apps). So DPI on a 10" display is a useful number in determining the screen resolution those computers would be able to support.
Though, of course, saying 1440P is more useful.
Well, saying 1440p doesn't say much, as you're missing aspect ratio.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
No, they're saying 300 DPI on a 10.1" display, not 300DPI @ 1440p. It's literally the title of every post in this thread, and you failed to see it.
It's also not a useless metric since Apple decided to advertise their brand new 300DPI screen for the iPhone 4. They're making the comparison that's been out there as a benchmark for clarity as set by another company. They're just saying their chip can do it on a 10.1" screen.
Now THAT would be the screen for the e-book reader that I want to buy - finally they are catching up with laser printers from 1985! No longer would you need to do awkward zooming to make out subscripts, superscripts, other small print, or diagrams... all of which are a necessity for reading scientific articles.
And nVidia is definitely lying/intentionally misleading customers by trying to claim there's enough power to push a certain resolution @ 300DPI.
lolwut? The quoted section says:
and offer 300 DPI on devices with a 10.1" display.
Where did they say anything about resolution @ 300DPI? It says 300DPI on a 10.1" display. The 1440p part was a separate clause joined by the conjunction "and". Reading comprehension ftw!
Quad-core ARM Cortex of some kind? Guessing more than a A9? Where are the real details about this chip?
if DC doesn't have IP there... well I guess they'd have gone after Cage already if they did.
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It will be harnessing the power of our yellow Sun, which will give it super-speed, super-strength, flight, x-ray vision, invulnerability and various other super-abilities and powers.
So really, you don't have to worry about power consumption. But you DO have to worry about kryptonite exposure and Lex Luthor.
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Mentioning DPI is a useless measurement.
Have you missed all the "retina display" hype?
Anyway, given DPI and screen size, you can easily get the dimensions in pixels.
Amazing how fast the industry is ramping up the hardware capabilities of mobile devices. Among the critical problems Windows has on tablets, responsiveness might end up being solved for them. Of course, battery life and usability are still huge problems.
From the slide:
2011 Kal-el
2012 Wayne
2013 Logan
2014 Stark
That's Superman, Batman, Wolverine, and Iron Man.
There is a thread here claiming The Tick is in the list, but if so, he's not in the slide from TFA, he's not in the Wikipedia article, and Google search doesn't know about it. It's a joke or a troll.
According to the graph, the performance to come is just crazy! Performance compared to the Tegra 2:
Kal-El: 5x
Wayne: 10x
Logan: 50x
Stark: 75x? 80x?
I'm not sure how those numbers can be real, though. A Tegra 2 is already a substantial fraction of the performance of a desktop processor. If we can have 75x that performance in a few years, are they promising to outperform desktop processors in just a few years time? Or do they think desktop processors will stop plateauing and start ramping up performance dramatically again?
Now more than ever, I want a slim netbook with a full-size keyboard, a Tegra processor, and a Pixel Qi screen. It would be great for email and web, for taking notes, etc. It would be just the thing for carrying around at a conference or convention.
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well it is not a mode available for HDMI and is a standard DVI mode. I believe they used a 30" 2560x1600 DVI monitor to display content (2560x1440 is 16:9, 1600 would have been only 16:10). Because HDMI doesn't specify such a mode you won't find any TVs doing 1440p, and you can't do HDMI audio to a typical DVI monitor. But I believe the point of the demonstration is to show that the new chip is faster than the old chip rather than demonstrate some technology that will show up on the market.
Still, being able to dance with a Core 2 Duo is pretty damn good.
But can it dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/SoC/NVIDIA/Kal-El/DSC_1401.jpg
Clear differences in gcc versions (3.4.4 vs. 4.4.1), -O2 on the C2D, -O3 with -funroll-loops on the tegra
"Anyway, given DPI and screen size, you can easily get the dimensions in pixels."
No, you just get pixel count. That doesn't tell you supported resolution at all.
My Samsung A550 has 6.1MP screen, but only displays maximum 2.1MP images.
Gee, I wonder why that would be?
Saying DPI and screen size alone is FUCKING USELESS.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
NVidia's silicon, which is what they boast about here, doesn't care about dimensions, it only cares about total pixel count (more pixels -> longer to render). Actual screen sizes will depend on screen manufacturers. Then again, we've seen tablets with 3:4, 4:5 and 6:9 ratios, so that's about what you can expect - and from there you can calculate horizontal and vertical count if you care.
It will also be interesting how much an actual 10" screen at 300dpi will cost.