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Hands On With Apple IPad 2
adeelarshad82 writes "Yesterday's announcement of the second-generation iPad showed exactly why there was so much excitment around the device. As the video hands on shows, iPad 2 makes up for all the things lacking in the original iPad. The 1GHz dual-core A5 chip does justice to apps like Photo Booth and over all user experience. Moreover, while the screen carries the same resolution, Apple was able to pack it in a noticably thinner iPad 2. Infact its dimensions, 13.4 mm to 8.8mm thick, make it 33% thinner than iPhone 4. Also while the cameras aren't HD, the inclusion itself provides an opportuntiy for Facetime, which is actually more interactive than what we've seen so far on other Apple devices."
Well, except for Flash support and user expandable memory...
Does the Bluetooth support an external mouse and keyboard?
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
1. It is 33% thinner than the first iPad. It is also thinner than the iPhone 4, but only slightly.
2. The rear camera is, in fact, HD.
...it inspires impartial and unbiased Slashdot articles!
What about an SD card slot or USB port?
The Daddy casts sleep on the Baby. The Baby resists!
I used an Apple bluetooth keyboard with a friend's iPad last summer
antipaucity
Much like the sound of the wind, I predict that joke went right over your head.
There's a link to yesterday's article right there in the summary, so there may have been some awareness and intention behind this posting.
Nerd rage is the funniest rage.
iPad 3.5 will probably come with Palladium 3.5, where even sites like Youtube will be charged for streaming to iDevice users.
Already, Netflix, Kindle, etc. are on the chopping block on the App Store unless they pay up 30% of the user's fees to Apple. Want to read your Kindle books or Netflix movies on the iPad? Be forced to pay up to cover Apple's tax. The best thing is that according to Apple's rules, the price has to be same for other devices too, so even if you don't use the iDevices, expect your prices to go up because of Apple's policies.
Readability was kicked off the App Store for failing to pay up http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/02/21/apples_rejection_of_readability_ios_app_stirs_subscription_controversy.html
Before you mod me overrated/flamebait/troll etc. maybe reply to tell me why you're doing so?
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I've been using a bluetooth keyboard with my iPad since last spring, when the iPad took the place of my laptop. I wouldn't know about a mouse, because there's no need for a mouse with it. The Flash issue has been covered to death. You either understand why its exclusion is a good thing or you don't, so there's nothing to add there. As for user-expandable memory, I can't figure out why people bring this up. It's a trade-off. There are certain advantages to having sealed, fixed memory, and it's a tradeoff to get them. If you don't want those advantages, buy a product that requires the user to manipulate a file system, but you're NOT going to see those in iOS products. Period.
I think iPad 3.11 for workgroups will be good enough for me.
Readability was kicked off the App Store for failing to pay up
heh, Readability (the company that charges 30% of revenue to publishers of content) was quoted about Apple's (the company that charges 30% of revenue to publishers of content) policy: it "smacks of greed"
Like anyone can even know that
Truely, if it is perfect, we should not expect another Hitler Rant video...
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he best thing is that according to Apple's rules, the price has to be same for other devices too, so even if you don't use the iDevices, expect your prices to go up because of Apple's policies.
I'm not a fan of Apple but I think that's a misinterpretation. The rule is that the Apple device user has to be charged the same price if they buy the service outside the app store. So really all companies would have to do would be to add an extra fee on their site to enable streaming to i-devices, right?
Readability doesn't charge publishers. How ignorant or desperate are you?
Want a bet?
They've been on the chopping block for several weeks now and nothing has happened. For example, the latest version of the Kindle app was published on the App Store on the 14th and has been downloadable to this day. Apple's made no statements about how they're going to apply these rules to Netfilx and Kindle, and all we can do is extrapolate.
All we have is one data point from a frustrated vanity publisher who's upset, really, because it's not him getting that 30% instead of Apple. He wants to pretend he's the "content provider" when the independent writer's he's fleecing are doing all the writing and Apple is doing all legwork with the distribution, making the mobile devices and making electronic reading an actual going proposition. All he is is a middleman trying to get his cut for doing nothing more than running a website and doing "classy" branding.
Don't blame me, I voted for Baltar.
topping the walled garden is now 33% sharper too.
There are certain advantages to having sealed, fixed memory, and it's a tradeoff to get them.
I absolutely agree! I'll list some for the detractors:
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No, but they collect membership fees and revert 70% of these to the writers. 30% agency fees, for doing exactly squat besides rebranding and reformatting the content, would be considered exorbitant and unconscionable in just about any other business.
I work with a lot of independent filmmakers and the "Readability" model has been with them for the last 10 years or so -- small fly-by-night "distributors" who take a huge cut of revenue and fees in exchange for making your movie available on their shitty burn-on-demand DVD website and offering it, with zero promotion and for bargain-basement prices on iTunes and Movielink and iFilm and all the other crap distribution channels that have come and gone the last decade. They're slimeballs and all they care about is putting themselves in-between artists and eyeballs, and doing as little as possible for their fees.
Don't blame me, I voted for Baltar.
In the same way Apple doesn't charge, they pay.
I fail to see the difference, perhaps I'm ignorant.
Like anyone can even know that
You either understand why its exclusion is a good thing or you don't, so there's nothing to add there.
Wow. That's some arrogance. Did you really mean to say: "Either you agree with apple, or you are wrong."
There are certain advantages to having sealed, fixed memory
Can you actually name any that are relevant?
Not having to manipulate a file system isn't one by the way. My car stereo handles CDs, mp3 disks, flash memory, and ipods, and all the complicated file system stuff is completely invisible... I just push the source button. I guess that would be too overwhelming for an iDevice user?
Another example is the Nintendo Wii file system management which a 4 year old has no trouble with.
Meanwhile the multiple advantages of removable storage however are blindingly obvious.
Arguing about the trade-offs of expandable/removable storage its about as idiotic as as arguing about the trade offs of wearing a motorcycle helmet. (In that yes, there are circumstances where not having a helmet on would be advantageous... but the disadvantages thoroughly outweigh any advantages.)
but you're NOT going to see those in iOS products
This same arguments about how you didn't need were made about native application development and multi-tasking...
The main reason there is no expandable memory is that:
a) Steve Job's obsessively hates slots and buttons, and is more than willing to sacrifice function to get form.
b) If you can slide in your own 8GB SD card for $50, why would you pay hundreds of dollars extra for one with extra memory?
P.T. Barnum is still smiling.
You know the real revolution of the Sholes and Glidden was that you could type on it faster than you could write. If something has a keyboard, and you can take for granted that the user population has keyboarding skills, handwriting recognition is useless baggage.
Don't blame me, I voted for Baltar.
The iPad is a large form factor, personal media consumption device with social networking. It's not for taking notes, or writing term papers, or shooting a Filipino horror movie in NYC. I don't think capacitive screens will do what you want to do with any sort of accuracy. Its the trade off of a smooth, finger based interface - accuracy sucks.
Personally, I'd like the idea of that feature, too. I'd also like a higher resolution camera and a "digital copier" function that would let me capture pages to PDF with all the lighting fixed automagically. It's a "known limitation". I haven't found another device that meets all my specs yet either, though.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
Why not provide a stylus and an app that would make the iPad behave like electronic paper. You could take notes in class, in meetings, draw tech diagrams, etc? Have it do OCR on whatever you write and have it produce a typed document (PDF) and keep the original handwritten work as well.
You do realize this was the entire premise of the Microsoft Tablet PC platform, right? You know, the one that's been selling for nearly a decade?
If Microsoft hasn't dominated the tablet market in that time, from their position of utmost strength, then perhaps the pen/tablet strategy isn't the solution (and Apple realized this).
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My understanding is Apple wants a 30% cut. However they don't want providers to charge extra on Apple devices - so basically publishers have two choices:
1) Keep the price the same, and if the provider was making 30% or less already per sale, potentially lose money per sale.
2) Raise the price for all and have non iOS users essentially pay a 30% tax for Apple.
3) Don't release on iOS and lose that customer base.
This is MY understanding. If I'm wrong please let me know.
We were obviously referring to flash memory (e.g. SD or microSD cards), not RAM. And there are tradeoffs; if it is removable, the OS must check to see if it is there, know when it has been inserted or removed, and handle the situation where what it expected to be stored isn't what is there. It also creates a vector for the introduction of malware or even (gasp!) software not sold through the app store onto the device.
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
I believe that the rules are structured to prevent that. Something along the lines of, "if a subscription offer is made outside the app, the same or better offer is made inside the app as well, using the in-app subscription functionality that Apple has built." I can't say this is certainly disallowed, but it seems like a fairly obvious loophole that runs counter to the strategy they seem to be pursuing.
Rifles can easily be broken down and parts replaced by a knowledgeable user, and there are tons of 3rd party add ons for them that work well across all brands without needing any special connectors, etc.
Try again.
Dirty Percent by Gruber.
" and the fanboyism so prevalent among its customers"
Oh, please. Knee jek regurgitations of false memes are getting old. File that one in the same drawer as BSOD.
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The main reason there is no expandable memory is that:
a) Steve Job's obsessively hates slots and buttons, and is more than willing to sacrifice function to get form.
b) If you can slide in your own 8GB SD card for $50, why would you pay hundreds of dollars extra for one with extra memory?
Yep. Those are the two most likely reasons. Charging $40 for a video dongle is ridiculous and $40 for their magic cover is equally ridiculous.
But so what? I don't get the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth caused by Apple releases. If those prices are too high or you don't like their marketing practices or the devices don't do what you need them to do then DO NOT BUY THEM. If someone else is perfectly happy to pay said prices for said items and they do not care about expandable memory and don't have any idea about Steve Jobs' personal taste then who the fuck cares?
No one needs to own an Apple device. No one is forced to own an Apple device. No one is entitled to own an Apple device.
The problem is, Apple presumes all users are stupid. If you have stupid users plus multitasking, you will recharge your device more often. I completely agree with that. On the other hand, you can have smart users plus multitasking and not recharge more often; rather, just a more productive user. The difference is, Apple completely removes that option. By definition, Apple is excluding smart users from their target audience.
I have a Motorola Xoom on my desk right now as I type this.
Your long list of silliness about the "Zoom" includes: silly things that imply complexity, "25 pounds", USB port, "three 9-volt batteries".
In order:
The UI is a bit more busy than an iPad, with more little options, but I haven't found it at all hard to use.
According to specs, it is 730 grams, which is exactly the same as an iPad with 3G. Note that the second generation iPad 2 is listed as 600 grams; presumably that is not including the 3G option but it is still a win for Apple. On the other hand, an M16 rifle weighs about 8 pounds, so your innuendo is that the Xoom probably weighs three times as much as the Apple product; clearly false.
Yes, the Xoom has a USB port. That is a good feature and I like it. The iPad has a USB port, but only if you put a special dongle on the special Apple connector. But I guess your point was that it would be silly for a rifle to have a USB port. In that case, please list the actual features of the Xoom that are silly. You might, for example, mock the Xoom for having a barometer; but it adds no significant weight or cost, and it will be very useful for certain applications, and I don't see how you could claim it makes the Xoom harder to use, so perhaps it's not that silly after all.
As for batteries, the Xoom has built-in sealed battery pack, just like the iPad. The iPad claimed battery life is 9 hours for the 3G model; the Xoom claimed battery life is 8 hours, with a faster processor. The iPad 2 claims to have 9 or 10 hour battery life.
I think the actual specs show that the Xoom is not quite as slick as an iPad but it is in the ballpark, and I personally do not want to shackle myself to Apple's ecosystem. If you want a device that gives you the most freedom, then the Xoom is a worthy option. If you want the slickest device currently made, then get an iPad 2.
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lf(1): it's like ls(1) but sorts filenames by extension, tersely
Not tryin' to say..
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/03/03/steve-jobs-reality-distortion-takes-its-toll-on-truth/ ..you know. ..just sayin'.
I am not an atomic playboy.
If those prices are too high or you don't like their marketing practices or the devices don't do what you need them to do then DO NOT BUY THEM
Any particular reason I shouldn't remark about why I didn't buy them?
I don't get the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth caused by Apple releases
I don't get the fanboi fawning caused by them either. I think the two balance each other out, and its likely that the anti-reaction is in direct proportion to the fanboi-fawning reaction
Apple doesn't do anything for subscriptions except payment processing
And shielding the subscriber from giving up their personal information to the publisher.
Like anyone can even know that
70% of the micropayments, that is. In order to put your content on a device which already allows you to sell your content for the same split, let alone other storefronts and platforms which offer different more-or-less favorable terms -- you can sell on the Kindle store, for example, which gives you a better share and more audience but doesn't let you set the price. And that for just a cut of a flat subscription fee and not per-article or author. These people are just chiselers who are selling a bill of goods to writers who don't know all of the options available to them.
If they aren't "doing anything" then why don't you do it? Oh yeah, that's right, you didn't invent, market and distribute a mobile device platform and ecosystem, thus creating the market of customers for electronic written works.
Don't blame me, I voted for Baltar.
Readability charges users a fee. Readability pays writers and publishers 70% of that fee.
In the same way that Apple charges users a fee. Apple pays writers and publishers 70% of that fee.
Again, like the other poster said, where's the difference? Are you confused?
Sorry, I should clarify. The rules for apps currently in the store don't get enforced until June. Sony's reader was also rejected already.
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