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Politics: Libyan Rebels Announce Creation of a Republic
An anonymous reader writes "A report in p2pnet.net says a 'declaration for a temporary council in the Republic of Libya' has been published. The story quotes Alive in Libya, which says Mustafa Abdul Jaleel is the president, and Abdul Hafid Abdul Qader Ghoga is the deputy president and official spokesman. No other details are given."
A declaration by some wing of a splintered popular uprising in an African country, reported by a news source with zero credibility? Is this what Slashdot has come to? :(
I hereby declare the room in which I reside the Republic of Bob!.... Why are you laughing at me? For legal purposes it means just as much.
I can declare that my land, in Ohio, is a free and sovereign country, apart from the USA, and all residents have unanimously elected me President. But that doesn't mean the government from which I am withdrawing doesn't have a right to put up a fight. Ask the Confederate States of America how easy the process is.
This is a hacked account, for which the owner can not be held responsible.
The trick to this sort of thing is making it actually stick, when the guy you're dismissing as no longer in charge is still able to hand cash and other incentives to the people who are piloting the combat aircraft being used to attack you and your Rebel Scum.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
This group actually has backing from the local city councils that have been working to keep the local infrastructure running.
I really wish the U.S. was still a republic, but unfortunately the 'new deal' destroyed the republic we did have. When ya get down to barebones and read the definition from Black Law Dictionary that our judicial system uses read the definition for a republic then a democracy, the legal definition not the regular dictionary, and decide which you would rather have.
The amount of disparaging and dismissive comments made here, along with the generally tepid response in the West to the Libyan revolution(as well as the Arab revolutions in general) makes me feel that the West in general has no interest in democracy or freedom. Even amidst the general populace.
Obviously the west has little to gain politically or economically from any wave of democracy in the middle east. But even ideologically, people in the west seemed to be totally uninterested in recent events in the region.
Have we entered the age of "Meh, Freedom"? Maybe democracy, having hitched its fortunes to marketism and failed to deliver on its promises, has simply lost its lustre for westerners? Maybe the rise of China is turning people towards alternative forms of government? Maybe the west--and America in particular-- is tired of international conflicts and is entering a period of isolationism?
I don't know what it is, but comparing interest in the Arab revolutions to the interest in the Orange and Velvet revolutions only a few years ago, I'm struck by the increase in apathy, and in some cases dismissal by people living older democracies.
May the Maths Be with you!
It's more than a coup attempt, but less than a revolution. The rebels claim a port city, there's some fighting near the capital. Some army units are supporting the rebellion. This is the normal form of regime change in some countries. The people at the top change, but the whole government isn't replaced.
The announced head of the new government is a former justice minister. He seems to be the compromise choice of several factions, which is a good sign. Interestingly, this seems to be a secular rebellion. The leadership isn't talking about establishing an Islamic state.
Well, I must have missed where they held elections. Anyway, since the link is a typical Slashdot non-story, let's talk about Harvard university professors supporting Khadaffy instead. Nicholas Negroponte from OLPC accepted his money and is proud of his participation. The really outrageous detail is that these professors were complicit in the award of a fraudulent PhD. For that they should have their tenure revoked and their academic positions removed. Of course, this won't happen. If a buffoon like me showed up to protest Haah-vahd, I'd be laughed out of the discussion due to my lack of a doctorate, and even if I did have one, my Ph.D would be mocked as the award of an inferior school. Khadaffy's son Saif is hardly the first to have his Ph.D thesis written for him. Unfortunately this is a perfect example of the principles (or lack thereof) of the cultured, intellectual elite who are convinced that they should be in charge of America. That they are reprehensible scalawags who are for sale to a tyrant will never be accepted. It would be like a socialist accepting that her ideology resulted in the deaths of millions of 20th century humans. The consequences are just too much to bear thinking about.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
see you at one of the million baby play-dates, photon sharing sessions, georgia stone editing(s), etc...? there's rumors that unprecedented evile's minions aren't through trying to kill us/ready to flee, just yet. we've also heard that paper-shredding is at record levels this season? confetti?
our occurring/evolving intentions;
1. DEWEAPONIZATION (not a real word, but they like it) almost nothing else good happens until some progress here.
2. ALL BABYS CREATED/TO BE TREATED, EQUALLY. (a rough interpretation (probably cost us. seems like a no-brainer but they expressed that we fail on that one too(:)->) 'we do not need any 300$ 'strollers', or even to ride in your smelly cars/planes etc..., until such time as ALL of the creators' innocents have at least food, shelter, & some loving folks nearby.' again, this is a deal breaker, so pay attention, that's cheap enough, & could lead to our survival?
3. THOU SHALT NOT VACCINATE IRRESPONSIBLY. this appears to be a stop-gap intention.
the genuine feelings expressed included; in addition to the lack of acknowledgment of the advances/evolution of our tiny bodies/dna (including consciousness & intellect), almost nobody knows anymore what's in those things (vaccines) (or they'd tell us), & there's rumor much of it is less than good (possibly fatal) for ANY of us. if it were good for us we'd be gravitating towards it, instead of it being shoved in our little veins, wrecking them, & adversely affecting our improving immune systems/dna/development? at rite-aid, they give the mommies 100$ if they let them stick their babys with whoknowswhat? i can see why they're (the little ones) extremely suspicious? many, oddly? have fading inclinations to want to be reporters of nefarious life threatening processes, ie. 'conspiracies', as they sincerely believe that's 'stuff that REALLY matters', but they KNOW that things are going to be out in the open soon, so they intend to put their ever increasing consciousness, intellect, acute/astute senses & information gathering abilities, to the care & feeding of their fellow humans. no secrets to cover up with that goal.
4. AN END TO MANUFACTURED 'WEATHER'.
sortie like a no-(aerosol tankers)-fly zone being imposed over the whole planet. the thinking is, the planet will continue to repair itself, even if we stop pretending that it's ok/nothing's happening. after the weather manipulation is stopped (& it will be) it could get extremely warm/cold/blustery some days. many of us will be moving inland..., but we'll (most of us anyway) be ok, so long as we keep our heads up. conversely, the manufactured 'weather' puts us in a state of 'theater' that allows US to think that we needn't modify our megaslothian heritage of excessiveness/disregard for ourselves, others, what's left of our environment etc...? all research indicates that spraying chemicals in the sky is 100% detrimental to our/planet's well being (or they'd talk to US about it?). as for weather 'extremes', we certainly appear to be in a bleeding rash of same, as well as all that bogus seismic activity, which throws our advanced tiny baby magnets & chromosomes into crisis/escape mode, so that's working? we're a group whose senses are more available to us (like monkeys?) partly because we're not yet totally distracted by the foibles of man'kind'. the other 'part' is truly amazing. we saw nuclear war being touted on PBS as an environmental repair tool (?depopulation? (makes the babys' 'accountants' see dark red:-(-? yikes. so what gives? thanks for your patience & understanding while we learn to express our intentions. everybody has some. let us know. come to some of our million baby play-dates. no big hurry? catch your breath. we'll wait a bit more. thanks.
do the math. check out YOUR dna/intention potential. thanks again.
A group of heavily armed irregulars calling themselves the United Caliphate of Virginia declares sovereignty over the Commonwealth and marches on Washington to depose Mr. Obama and expand its reach nationwide. Mr. Obama must decide if and how to defend the Capitol against these people and the type and deployment of federal military assets. Cuba and Venezuela have joined Iran and 8 other Muslim countries calling for U.N. recognition of the Caliphate and the condemnation of the U.S. government and Mr. Obama personally for thwarting the "freedom fighter's" self determination. The Caliphate's forces have reached the out skirts of Arlington having rolled forward against only light opposition as a significant number of U.S. officers and non-coms have joined them. The "freedom fighters" are moving in artillery capable of hitting most of the District of Columbia. Mr. Obama has virtually the full power of United States military forces at his disposal. The 4,300 "freedom fighters" are heavily armed and are acquiring military hardware as they advance. They reportedly have 3 helicopters of undetermined capability. Leaving aside for the moment Mr. Obama's natural tendency to side with the forces of Islam and against the interests of America, would he unleash a strong attack designed to bring an immediate and decisive halt to the uprising or some lesser response? Would he use artillery and air power to guard the seat of government? Would he allow the "freedom fighters" to operate with impunity from within densely populated civilian areas? What would BHO do and how would it differ from Mr. Qaddafi's actions and decisions?
Libya is already known as the "Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Republic" or in short the "Libyan Arab Republic".
that's right. as 180*360 as it may come across, that's what's happening. are they (r)evolutionary or what? right away, the naysayers/co-opters /fear-mongers lament, 'they can't do that'? no such word. there's only time, space & circumstance to be contended with.
never a better time to plan to attend one of the million+ baby (& friends) play-date etc... events being scheduled world wide. be there or be scared?
This happened february 27.
Here we go again with a guy appointed by friends to become new overlord of the place.
This is no better than Gadaffi himself. Replacing a dictator with a self and friends appointed
new dictator dosen't really reassure me . Noone elected the boyos afaik , yet they proclaim legitimity.
It's a farce and noone i hope takes them any seriously.That country's a mess and it looks like every Tom Dick and Larry can make announcements that they are the new leaders of the place.
Hopefully they will realise it will end at a table with someone signing something.
How hard they make it on themselves to get that signature on the bottom line is the only question.
Violence is the refuge of the incompetent.Obviously , there's a lot of it in Lybia 8)
This is right on.
Controlling over half the geography doesn't tell you much, population wise, of what sort of popular support the uprising has.
That said, if Qaddafi is deposed, that is likely a good thing.
Seriously... wtf does this have to do with /. or news for nerds... if i wanted such news i'd go to BBC news or other news sites..
What's next? A post on David Cameron increasing pension funds ?
Sorry guys. You’re going to get one of your former monarchs to ensure the flow of oil in the desired direction. The Brits and the Americans will see to that. Congratulations on the demonstrations, though.