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Town Expands To Boost Cooling For NSA Data Center

1sockchuck writes "A substantial water supply is critical for most large data centers. A case in point: Officials in Bluffdale, Utah have agreed to annex land housing a new $1.2 billion data center for the National Security Agency. The move makes the NSA a higher priority customer for Bluffdale's water utility, which prevents its water supply from a potential cutoff in the event of a water shortage — which would be a problem, since water will be used extensively in the data center's cooling system. Many large data centers have been working to reduce their water use to make them more sustainable and reliable."

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  1. Re:That's a great theory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    They are afraid the water might be able to be reassembled in such a way as to show the data that the computers were processing when it cooled them.

    For God's sake don't tell them I

  2. Utah water supply by Gohtar · · Score: 3

    Every year us Utahns have to deal with our officials telling us there is not enough water to water our lawns or wash our cars and if we keep doing so there will not be enough water for our houses. Our main supply comes from the snow we get in our mountains. So yes we are limited. Our reservoirs have been slowly draining the past few years. Now we have to feed the NSA? And they have priority? Great.... I say give them my toilet water!

    1. Re:Utah water supply by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      One does wonder why the NSA chose that particular climate to build a big, water-hungry datacenter...(and what inducements the town leadership accepted for the... good fortune... of having its water allocated to the NSA first and its citizens second.)

    2. Re:Utah water supply by Isaac-1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Can we say PORK

    3. Re:Utah water supply by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why do you have lawns then?
      Having lawns in places that would need a lawn to be watered is a braindead idea.

    4. Re:Utah water supply by geekoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's ok. I the worst case, the data center is only one backhoe away from not needing water.

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    5. Re:Utah water supply by swanzilla · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why do you have lawns then? Having lawns in places that would need a lawn to be watered is a braindead idea.

      Now get off my lawn.

  3. Re:That's a great theory by idontgno · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, I'm guessing it's evaporative cooling towers or forced-air evaporators. That would work a treat in the summer time there. (I looked at a humidity trend chart for the town; summertime relative humidities are in the 20-25% range. It's the proverbial "dry heat" you hear about.)

    I guess if the town wants its water they'll have to set up vaporator fields downwind of the cooling plant and buy astromech and protocol droids to maintain and program them.

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  4. Re:That's a great theory by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is it unusable for people after it's been through a datacenter? Why does using it to transfer heat around reduce its utility for drinking?

    Depends what part of the cooling loop it ends up being used in. Because you really don't want things like galvanic corrosion or organic goo damaging your cooling system, cooling water that spends an extended period of time in the cooling loop is likely to be pretty nasty. Additives, biocides, dissolved metals, etc. Tasty.

    Water that just flows past a heat exchanger into which the main cooling loop dumps its heat is probably just fine. Water used for evaporative cooling should end up being nice and distilled(assuming that there isn't too much unpleasantness in the local air); but the percentage you can re-capture in Utah's climate may or may not be all that exciting...

  5. Re:Lake Superior by jandrese · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is Lake Superior in your congressional district? No? Then STFU.

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  6. Do I smell Orrin Hatch? by MarkvW · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why would you locate something that demands cooling resources in the MIDDLE OF A DESERT?
    Because an influential Senator wants the facility there, perhaps?

  7. Re:Make a hotspring resort out of it by fleebait · · Score: 5, Funny

    If they do the plumbing right, all they need to do is channel the hot water into a facility for rest and relaxation. For that matter, it could also be used in other ways. There has got to be a better way than this to make use of this hot water.

    Better -- stop the NSA domestic spying.

    A significant problem with making a hotspring resort fed by an NSA datacenter is the extreme danger imposed by an inadvertant WikiLeak, and it's effect on the local infrastructure. Liquid NSA data running all over Utah might have unknown effects on the local environment.

  8. Re:That's a great theory by QuoteMstr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Closed with respect to the water, not the energy.

    Automobile cooling system work just fine and don't consume fluid when operating properly. An open-loop system (where you lose the coolant) is cheaper and easier to build, but closed-loop systems work perfectly well.