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DraftSight 2D CAD For Linux Beta Available

crypton writes "Dassault Systems, (Solidworks) has released their promised Linux version of DraftSight, their free 2D AutoCAD work-alike drafting program (deb and rpm files available). Right now it appears to be 32-bit only but it looks like one of the best Linux CAD alternatives (paid or unpaid) right out of the gate. Also available for PC and Mac."

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  1. Cue GIMP-style questions by TheModelEskimo · · Score: 2

    "Can I use this to create an animation of, say, a 3D car jumping off a ramp through a ring of fire? If not, can somebody explain what this software is good for???"

    1. Re:Cue GIMP-style questions by JustOK · · Score: 2

      you could draw a pizza box.

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    2. Re:Cue GIMP-style questions by aklinux · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have a good friend, and Linux supporter, that is an Electrical Engineer. He does things like lay out the wiring for new subdivisions and commercial buildings. He does not have use for 3D doing what he does, but has been using 3D on Suse and Debian for years. Al the while lamenting the lack of availability of some decent 2D CAD under Linux, or anything else for that matter. Game design is not the only reason around for decent CAD software. A lot of real work in the real world is done with it.

    3. Re:Cue GIMP-style questions by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 5, Insightful

      FOSS 2d CAD package
       
      This isn't a FOSS 2d CAD package. It's a proprietary program that you can download at no charge but it requires "activation" within 30 days and once per year thereafter. (I just read the FAQ on their website.)

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    4. Re:Cue GIMP-style questions by deniable · · Score: 2

      Free as in Beer CAD package until the manufacturer decides it's not making any money and pulls support. PTC did a similar thing with ProDesktop Express. It could have killed the low end 3D design market (their competition) and used a similar key every year system.

    5. Re:Cue GIMP-style questions by crimperman · · Score: 2

      Game design is not the only reason around for decent CAD software. A lot of real work in the real world is done with it.

      Agreed. The D in CAD can stand for design or draughting/drafting. Civil, Structural and HVAC engineers for example will make heavy use of the latter for plans (what most lay-people call "Blue prints").

    6. Re:Cue GIMP-style questions by jackbird · · Score: 2

      To firms accustomed to licking ADSK's boots on command, that probably sounds like software freedom...

  2. slashvertisement by larry+bagina · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Let's see, free as in "activation required" (their words). "Runs on multiple operating systems" - I guess that means java. Not impressed.

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    1. Re:slashvertisement by theskipper · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I downloaded it then realized it's weird installing something in a linux distro that requires activation. Especially knowing no source code is available. It just feels...slimy and scary all at once.

      Like taking a shortcut through that dark alleyway with the bum standing in the shadows. He's probably harmless but hey, why take a chance.

      But it's their code so it's their perogative. I'll pass.

    2. Re:slashvertisement by kaka.mala.vachva · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You realize stuff like this is the only way Linux may become popular on the desktop? We can't really expect everything to be FOSS. Support this if its useful to you, and look past the activation - more companies may start developing for Linux then. Would hate to see the Loki story all over again.

    3. Re:slashvertisement by theskipper · · Score: 2

      Ok, that's true and I wish them well. But my post was coming from the "scratch an itch" user perspective rather than "change the world". And since my low risk tolerance doesn't mesh very well with the whole closed source+activation thing, it just won't work in my case. There's plenty of businesses that don't care about that sort of thing so they'll probably do well.

    4. Re:slashvertisement by NtwoO · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Your discomfort is understandable. Even such, I am very glad that QCad now has an alternative. QCad has no active development on the free version and still runs on KDE3. It is my weapon of choice when doing 2D CAD work. Whether DraftSight will replace it, is still an open point and the final choice is not as important as the fact that I have a choice. For doing electrical circuits in Linux one has very little choice but using Eagle. Also a commercial product. It is a very decent package and most definitely made my life a lot simpler. I'd love to have everything FOSS for my work and home environment, but often need goes ahead of want.

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    5. Re:slashvertisement by PaladinAlpha · · Score: 2

      None of those links are a year old. One of them is from two weeks ago. If you want an overnight revolution you're in the wrong place; software is hard.

      In time, we can probably clean up the half-ass trash that ATI released. I'm not ragging on them -- big props for releasing the stuff at all, and we can, in time, take care of the rest. But it's still half-ass buggy trash *grin* there's a lot of cleaning to do.

    6. Re:slashvertisement by ancienthart · · Score: 3, Informative

      Ries van Twisk has forked the free version of QCAD to produce librecad.
      http://www.librecad.org/

    7. Re:slashvertisement by Alex+Belits · · Score: 2

      It's Qt, you dumbass!

      (same toolkit as QCad).

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    8. Re:slashvertisement by Belial6 · · Score: 2

      Well, they can't please all of the people all of the time. It will never happen. I know that since AMD has started releasing docs, I have seen more posts, and more statements of support for them. Before they started releasing docs, It was starting to look like Intel would be the GPU of choice, since it was 'good enough' for most uses, and had open docs. AMD seems to be turning that around. It takes time, but it seems to be happening.

  3. There is an actual 3D cad for Linux out there... by bmo · · Score: 2

    ... for "mere human" price.

    VariCAD.

    It does do everything. It's not as polished as ProE or SolidWorks, and definitely not UG/NX, but it's something you can use if you're a small one-person shop.

    If we're doing slashvertisement for Dassault, we may as well mention alternatives, no?

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  4. Re:PC and Mac by cheater512 · · Score: 2

    My fridge. Why do you ask?

    This is so useful. I've always wanted to do a little CAD work while grabbing a snack.

  5. Not quite ready for prime time by JPyObjC+Dude · · Score: 2

    I have given it a go and compared it to QCad which I have a licensed copy and used heavily of late. Although, it is likely much more feature rich than QCad, it is missing one key feature of having a "Layers Pane" that is always visible. In DraftSight, you must open a modal dialog to manage the layers which IMO is kind of clicky for complex layer management. This is a pretty glaring usability miss for me and I am holding off for them to implement this before I jump on the band wagon.

    On the bright side, hopefully this will like the fire under QCad developers to get 3.0 out there which has been "under development" for a couple of years now. QCad itself has some issues too such as poor workflows and some basic usability features and its well due for some improvements.

    Good to see some progress in the free / reasonably priced 2D Cad world :)

  6. Re:We need this because...? by AeiwiMaster · · Score: 2

    Check out OpenSCAD

  7. Re:We need this because...? by subreality · · Score: 3, Informative

    qcad is *very* low-end.

    I've done a fair bit of CAD work, and am pretty fluent in AutoCAD. I tried to use qcad for some simple things, but it's *really* lacking in basic functionality. Things like: Create a block. Assign layers to elements of a block. Set certain line colors to specific values, some to bylayer. Give the layer a color. Insert the block into a drawing. Change its color. The elements on a layer within the block inherit the attributes from the BLOCK's layer.

    It's so wrong on such a simple bit of functionality that I couldn't take it seriously for anything more than arranging the furniture in my room, and even for that I felt like its limits were sometimes exceeded.

    We really need more 2D CAD options in Linux.

  8. cad systems by BluRBD!E · · Score: 2

    The problem is if the CAD program is for Architectural design and drafting, it's basically useless in the industry now unless it's BIM (Building Information Modelling). Which means you need a 3D system to create a model so you can extrapolate any data and export it to other 3D systems. ArchiCAD and Revit are the only two packages I would even consider these days, and ArchiCAD has the edge especially for big business and collaboration. Don't even get me started on the new features of version 15. (disclaimer: alpha tester). What I really want to see is those two software packages working on all current operating systems. ArchiCAD is currently Mac and Windows, Revit is Windows only. Screw emulation. Note: Did not read the article.

  9. A good small first step by MonsterTrimble · · Score: 2

    Disclaimer: I am a Mechanical Engineer by trade however my current job does not require 3D capability from my CAD program.

    While I agree with everyone that this program is not for the big boys of 3D modelling (although it would be the cat's meow a decade ago for 2D work) and that there are many free alternatives out there which will better this program, I think many people are missing the point. Solidworks actually released something for Linux - this is not to be underestimated. This is the 800 pound gorilla of CAD systems at the moment and when (not if) they throw their weight behind Linux and release something which handles 3D FEA modelling and such that will make a huge difference. They should be 100% applauded for doing this.

    As an aside, I'm not sure why people would complain about it only being 2D. How much great design was done using a drawing board and a T-square? Not everything requires the high end equipment that car manufacturers use. A straight forward 2D drafting program is sufficient for most any hobbiest and small operation.

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  10. Re:PC is short for Personal Motherfucking Computer by not-my-real-name · · Score: 2

    In conclusion: Don't say stupid things like: "I have a PC".

    You could do what my wife does and call the MS-Windows computers "IBMs". This is even after I explained to her that IBM no longer makes personal computers.

    I guess you have a couple of choices. You can learn to let it slide or you can seek therapy.

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  11. This is an OEM'd version of ARES by MasterOfGoingFaster · · Score: 2

    Just so you guys know, Draftsight is actually actually an OEM'd version of ARES (http://www.graebert.com/en/cad/ares) from Graebert. So it could be available as long as Dasault continues to pay Grabert. Autodesk has been trying to move into Dasault's teritory (3D solids modeling and simulation), and has been in several lawsuits with Dasault's Soldworks group. I suspect this is a way for Dasault to stick it to Autodesk's cash cow AutoCAD. Cut their cash flow by giving away a program for a market (2D drafting) that Dasault has little interest in.

    It's not a bad package. I'm an AutoCAD Certified Expert and I find it pretty usable. Does OK on older DWG files, but has issues with the latest versions.

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