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Paramount Pictures To Release Film On Bittorrent

TheyreNotTheir writes "In a little over two months time, the long-awaited horror movie The Tunnel will receive its world premiere. Rather than a traditional theatrical release, the movie – which is set in abandoned real-life tunnels under Sydney, Australia – will make its debut online for free with BitTorrent. Simultaneously it will be released on physical DVD, to be distributed by Hollywood giant Paramount Pictures."

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  1. MPAA will not care by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Smart money says people still end up in court being sued for distributing it anyway.

    1. Re:MPAA will not care by zethreal · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Unfortunately, I think you're right. Either that or they're planning on recording all the IP's that connect to it for "tracking" purposes.

    2. Re:MPAA will not care by Skarecrow77 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's a trap!

    3. Re:MPAA will not care by grub · · Score: 2

      That's what I was thinking. We must shop at the same hatter.

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    4. Re:MPAA will not care by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 2

      It's a trap!

      If it's not it soon will be once I start uploading Uwe Boll movies under the title "The Tunnel: Director's Cut" ;-)

    5. Re:MPAA will not care by SilentStaid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's at best being terrible at sarcasm and at worst you're being deliberately obtuse. After all, it was posted HERE before that they planned on this all along as a way to drum up interest in the under-budget film already. Source.

      That aside, I think everyone here who has ever bitched at the MPAA should at least do a little research and find out that, one of the many reasons that they're having trouble funding this film is because they're going against the grain and not opting for a huge distribution model that we so frequently claim to hate.

      All I'm saying is, pony up Slashdotters. Put your money where your mouth is and show them that you like the business model by trying it, and pay for it if it's worth it (which is a different story entirely.)

    6. Re:MPAA will not care by erroneus · · Score: 2

      I also predict that the MPAA will use "lower than average sales" to back up their claims of losses due to P2P sharing and other downloading.

      It is really hard to prove a negative or that something isn't happening because of something else. This may be an attempt to create a heavier preponderance of evidence to support their claim of losses due to downloads.

    7. Re:MPAA will not care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Extremely likely. These same assholes are why we have so much ad ware on Android and now these pricks are working overtime removing ad ware from *FREE* applications; thusly ensuring the developers receive no income. These pricks literally have proven piracy is doing financial harm, if its not its sole reason for doing so, to lots of small companies and individuals. To not call them criminals is to be delusional. Worse, a lot of these scum bags will then take their stolen applications and resale them via membership services or ironically, in turn generate revenue from ads.

    8. Re:MPAA will not care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So encourage all your friends, family etc who never (as opposed to 'never') download movies to grab it, and watch it at one of their places. Go go gadget red herring :)

    9. Re:MPAA will not care by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 2

      Oh, please. The MPAA is far too evil and closed-minded to ever get any consideration for this. The MPAA would still be viewed with suspicion if they donated a dollar to a homeless person or a million dollars to an orphanage. And by 'donated' I mean 'gave without suing them afterwards for depriving the MPAA of revenue that they believe was rightfully theirs'.

    10. Re:MPAA will not care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I hate to break it to you, but the people modifying their apps or phones to remove ads are the types that never - never as in, never in their entire lifetimes - willingly click on ads. Your post has as much truth to it as saying that Chinese or Russian piraters cause massive financial loss (while ignoring that they never bought any paid apps in the first place).

      Also... I'm not going to lax my general iptables rule so I can view ads on your goddamn app. If your app uses internet connectivity only for ads then it's already broken.

    11. Re:MPAA will not care by nospam007 · · Score: 2

      He's a cross between Spielberg and Tarantino.
      You should definitely rent one of his movies.

  2. Will it leak? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Funny

    The question now is whether the film will be leaked onto Bittorrent before the official Bittorrent release.

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    1. Re:Will it leak? by Seumas · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The more important question is - how will you know it's okay to download it? I mean, what differentiates one movie on bit torrent versus another? It sounds like this just muddies things. After all, if one movie is okay to download on bit torrent (and I don't know what would identify it as being authorized to download by the copyright holder when you're looking at a torrent index) and a movie that isn't?

    2. Re:Will it leak? by Seumas · · Score: 2

      There is a far greater difference between "Windows 7" and "Linux" on a torrent site than there is between "this is a fully produced copyrighted film distributed by a big studio that is okay to download over the internet" and "this is a fully produced copyrighted film distributed by a big studio that is not okay to download over the internet". What, you're suggesting that as long as it doesn't say "Uberl33tSCENERLS" in the filename, that makes it legit to download as it must have been placed on the torrents legitimately?

    3. Re:Will it leak? by Seumas · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There's plenty of content out there all over torrent sites that the creator of that content has intentionally seeded to the public. Just because something isn't from "Corporate Conglomerate Name" doesn't mean it isn't legitimate. Is all that project gutenberg content somehow less valid if it's up on a public torrent site, just because you didn't get it straight from some publisher (who wouldn't be able to own the copyright, anyway)?

  3. Re:Profit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A lot of people (claim?) to buy games/movies/software after "trying them out" from bit torrent downloads.

    This will be an interesting business model test.

  4. Re:Profit? by Xacid · · Score: 2

    Same thing I'm wondering. I'm immensely glad a company finally has the foresight to at least give it a try.

  5. Putyour money were your mouth is! by elsJake · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Donate and or buy it if you like it , they're testing new grounds and we need to prove we're not hypocrites.
    The slashdot crowd seems to follow the "try before you buy" mentality , so if you end up enjoying the movie , put your money were your mouth is.

    1. Re:Putyour money were your mouth is! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So, you'd advocate a battered housewife go back to the abusive husband as long as he says "I won't hurt you *this* time!" right?

      And no, that's not to extreme. If anything, it's not extreme enough. The MPAA destroys families forever through their ridiculous tactics. At least bruises heal.

    2. Re:Putyour money were your mouth is! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      BOARDROOM, INT. DAYTIME

      Henchman 1: I know! Let's release a piss poor movie on BitTorrent, asking for donations. When it fails we'll prove it's a failed model!
      MPAA Bossman: Brilliant! But... which movie shall we release?
      Henchman 1: ???
      Henchman 2: ???
      Henchman 3: ???
      MPAA Bossman: Ha ha, you should see the looks on your faces. *throws a dart at the board* They're all piss poor!
      All: Huzzah!

    3. Re:Putyour money were your mouth is! by Wiarumas · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Seems like a strawman technique to me though. "Hey everyone, the movie pirates were liars - they didn't buy this terrible movie after downloading it for free off Bittorent!" If it was a half decent movie, I would most likely download it and buy it if I liked it... but a horror movie titled Tunnel? Not interested in even the free version.

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  6. Re:Profit? by mehrotra.akash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hasnt the Humble Indie Bundle already done this??

  7. Re:Profit? by leuk_he · · Score: 2

    1. Make film
    2. Put crappy divx on torrent.
    3. Put superior dvd on sales.

    Guess which version will be more popular...

    BTW.. Next blockbuster might follow old Theathe -> rental -> DVD -> cable tv -> public tv model again....

  8. Rather deliberate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Last time I saw a trailer for this, it looked ridiculous. With a rather small production budget too, it's being set up to fail. "Waaah, when we do what the pirates want, they still won't make us money!"

    Of course I won't. I don't have a habit of buying inferior products over an inferior mechanism, so why do they expect visa-versa?

    1. Re:Rather deliberate by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 2

      Maybe that is the point. It's possibly a shitty movie and perhaps the cost of getting it to theaters, promotion, etc is not worth the estimated return of doing it. So they release it on DVD, throw it out there on BitTorrent for free and hope to get ANYTHING for this movie at this point.

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  9. Re:Whew! by DataDiddler · · Score: 2

    Monday... no peers, no seeds. I'm still stuck at 76.4%. The days drag on, and I can't help but wonder: where is my data and why is it taking so long to get here? Could there be some evil force keeping me from my mission? Am I in danger? I can only hope that one day, the bits will flow... like a torrent...

    *dramatic music*
    *man casually walks away from a giant explosion without looking back at it*

    BitTorrent: The Movie
    Coming Summer 2012

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  10. The Movie will suck by The+Evil+Twin · · Score: 2

    Release a bad movie as an experiment.
    Watch nobody buy it because it sucks.
    Point and shout "You see? Nobody will buy this stuff without restrictive copyright law!!!!"

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  11. Re:Profit? by Stenchwarrior · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's a good idea, but if they really wanted to see if it works then they would release a film with some big-name actors. This just looks like some B-movie pseudo-thriller.

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  12. Old News by Flipstylee · · Score: 2

    I bought twenty-five frames quite awhile ago now, anyone else?

  13. Re:Profit? by iluvcapra · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What would be clever is releasing the Divx on a torrent, but making the torren pan-and-scan and standard def, mono audio, burned in French subtitles, and corrupt the datastream a little so that every few minutes the picture hangs. Such a torrent might be "good enough" for people that wanted to casually watch the movie, and would divert them from a better pirated copies, particularly if you made sure it was very easy to find, but would be unacceptable if you actually wanted to enjoy watching the movie, and would stimulate you to go buy the real one.

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  14. Re:Profit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No. The Humble Indie Bundle on bittorrent was just regular piracy. Of course it was only pirated because of the invasiveness of its non-existant DRM and its outrageous price of a whole dollar.

  15. Paramount HE is probably only a licensee by airfoobar · · Score: 4, Informative

    The summary is incredibly misleading, I think. It's not a trick, it's not a trap. Ackbar lied to you.

    What's happening is, the creators of the movie (who have always planned on releasing their movie on torrent) now also have a 'hard copy' DVD release planned. The DVD release is being distributed by Paramount HE, but it still seems quite clear that the rights are held by the movie creators, not the distributors as is usually the case. This is similar with what Paley did with Sita Sings the Blues, and it's a Good Thing (TM).

    If you people can now stop speculating and go support this initiative, it would be great!!

  16. Just like television by gsgriffin · · Score: 2

    Wouldn't surprise me one bit if rather than fighting this around the world that they will succumb to blatant product placement throughout the movie. Look for lots of Coke cans, iPhones, laptops of a certain variety, certain car manufacture with logo prominent, etc...

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  17. Please dupe this story in 60 days. by Reeses · · Score: 2

    This is the first time I've ever asked for Slashdot to dupe a story.

    But, post this again, in 60 days, when the movie is out so I can get it.

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  18. Re:Profit? by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 2

    and would stimulate you to go buy the real one.

    I don't think so. Part of the reason people elect to not "go buy the real one" is because "the real one" has built up a reputation for not being as good as the pirate releases. If the torrent is pan-and-scan and has burned-in French subtitles and corruption, people seeing it will think, "Damn, the DVD must have been really bad for the cleaned up and improved version to be as bad as this."

    What they ought to be doing, is skip the bittorrent release altogether, but also skip the DVD (offer a for-pay download instead, and in a normal file format+codec and not requiring a specialized client (e.g. iTunes)). Or at least make sure the DVD release doesn't use CSS. Remove all the reasons that people pirate, and publicize like crazy that they've done this. (A lot of people are in the habit of pirating everything, because it's just assumed that all the non-pirate releases have DRM problems, so people working to fix the problem really do need to make a lot of noise, to get people to take the idea of non-piracy seriously again.) They should still go for getting money, but just make sure that a pirate release has no chance of being better than their own product.

    Any release of a "crippled" product (whether a corrupt datastream, or Bluray DRM, or whatever) is just a way of telling people to go get the movie from pirates. That gets the publisher out of the loop and pretty much eliminates and chances of collecting revenue. The publisher should try to be the best go-to guy, or at least tied for best. Never ever tell potential customers to go somewhere else.

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  19. Re:I won't BT it by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 2

    Yeah, using laziness or "my time is precious" as the reason to not bittorrent, is really weird. There are reasons not to bittorrent, but saving time or effort ain't among them. Nothing is as easy and point-and-click. All I can think of, is that this person's computer is hard-to-use, or he doesn't have an HTPC yet.

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  20. Re:Profit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think -you're- missing the point. Everything you say is correct, but what's to stop the studio from crying piracy anyway. Silly old things like facts?

  21. Re:The same as anything else - where did you get i by Seumas · · Score: 2

    So when the same torrent is indexed by numerous sites out there, it suddenly becomes illegitimate, because the user clicked on it through an indexer rather than directly through the site? It's the same content from the same source, either way. You just got the index from a different location. How is it suddenly illegitimate if you ran across it on piratebay, if the tracker inside the torrent is the legitimate server in the first place? Unless they're somehow going to turn it into a private tracker that you have to have an account for before downloading the file via their own bit torrent service (which wouldn't surprise me) so they could lock it down from those who aren't connecting to the tracker with a passkey.

  22. BT+DVD only = fail by next_ghost · · Score: 2

    If they want to make this experiment real, DVD as the only source of payments is a huge mistake. They need a theatrical release AND a simple donation system along with DVD release, all from day one. They'll learn that:

    • DVD is pretty much dead. Round pieces of shiny plastic are for collectors, not for general consumers anymore.
    • Theaters are here to stay. Free Internet release will make the movie fail in theaters only if it really sucks. If it's at least halfway decent, it's going to amplify its success in theaters instead.
    • The donation system works fine for users who'd want to buy DVD if it didn't include that round piece of plastic and a huge load of unskippable crap.
  23. If I were Paramount... by UBfusion · · Score: 2

    I'd consider experimentally pre-releasing several, if not all, films on bittorrent for free. With a minor twist: they'd all be 80% of the screened version, that is, without the happy ending :-)