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Turning Your E-Reader Into a Cheap Tablet

grahamsaa writes "NPR's Weekend Edition aired a story today on how rooting the Nook Color can turn it into a full fledged and relatively inexpensive Android tablet. The story claims that the process takes about half an hour, and only requires the purchase of a Nook and a microSD card, and points listeners to a YouTube tutorial on how to root the device. Could this signal a change in how mainstream users see devices like this? Could rooting Android devices like the Nook ever become mainstream?" We ran a story about this in December, and I haven't seen a flood of hacked readers anywhere so I doubt that tablet makers have anything to worry about.

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  1. Thumbs up to Barnes and Noble by arob28 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For not suing everybody like Sony is.

    1. Re:Thumbs up to Barnes and Noble by Sulphur · · Score: 2

      For not suing everybody like Sony is.

      These are not the 'droids you are seeking. Nothing to see. Move along.

    2. Re:Thumbs up to Barnes and Noble by hort_wort · · Score: 2

      SHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
      What are you thinking?! You're gonna jinx it! :P

    3. Re:Thumbs up to Barnes and Noble by symbolset · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They seem to be getting behind it. Reportedly they're going to have a regular Android App marketplace on the thing. There are rumors of an official full Android software update. Why fight it? The more people who buy it, the cheaper the economies of scale become for their reader.

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    4. Re:Thumbs up to Barnes and Noble by hedwards · · Score: 2

      Nook has been going that way for a while. Shortly after I got mine they upgraded the web browser to release status rather than beta. They included a chess program and audio player with the release as well. I've been wondering how long it was going to take them to include at least basic programs like a to do list or calendar program.

      Mind you that's the Nook WiFi without the fancy color screen, the one with a color screen seems even more of a no brainer.

      I suspect what's going on here is that Barnes & Noble figured out that allowing this is good for their sales, and that as long as the devices still can read the books they sell that there isn't really much to worry about.

      Shocking I know, that a major corporation would be that open minded to people using the devices they buy as they like.

    5. Re:Thumbs up to Barnes and Noble by taustin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They plan to make money selling books, not book readers. The more readers they sell, the cheaper each one is to manufacture, and the more readres they sell. People who root aren't very likelyt o buy books, but the cheaper the price, the more people who will buy books will buy readers.

      Plus, B&N are a brick & mortar store, and always have been. Unlike Amazon, where having employees dealing one on one with customers is an expense to be minimized, at B&N, it's the whole point.

  2. Time by jmitchel!jmitchel.co · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'd put the process at closer to an hour. The big time sink is figuring out WTF is going on and what you want to do about it - there are no less than four major options, with a dozen smaller decisions to make, all wrapped up in a slightly hermetic nomenclature. It still ain't for the weak kneed and non-technical. HOWEVER, the nightly CyanogenMod 7 build is getting really close to maximum awesomeness - video playback doesn't work quite right, bluetooth doesn't work quite right, but both of them work. By late april it should be a clear winner, and that will make the decision much easier.

    1. Re:Time by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 5, Informative

      Nook Color comes with LCD, not E-ink.

    2. Re:Time by basotl · · Score: 2

      Well he is talking about on a rom. I have found video playback to be fine on default root. Bluetooth is not officially supported so that should be a consideration. It was a major win that it could be unlocked later at all.

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    3. Re:Time by jmitchel!jmitchel.co · · Score: 2

      That was not my experience - you have to know if you want to auto-nooter, nookie froyo, CM7 or gingerbread, and you have to find genuinely authoritative documentation for performing the work. Once you're rooted and have done if a few times, it's really easy. But my first try (only a few weeks ago) ended up using somebody's not quite right autonooter kit for 1.10, the second or third try instructed me to wipe my /boot fs (requiring a reflash to stock). And it was a few times around before I figured out that a lot of my boot problems were due to having leftover boot sectors on my SD cards. So - it's extremely quick and easy once you understand it, and find authoritative instructions,

    4. Re:Time by oakgrove · · Score: 2

      The summary is just a bunch of BS somebody spouted off. The ggp was actually trying to say that the relative shittiness of the rooted nook color compared to the ipad had something to do with how popular ipads are. That's just stupid. And you are even stupider for endorsing it.

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    5. Re:Time by Zerimar · · Score: 2

      BS, it takes a half hour, tops. Following this wiki http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Rooting will walk you through it. The only decision you have to make it deciding which software version of nookCOLOR you have. The only reason it would take longer is if you are messing with replacing the whole system, but a basic root with marketplace support takes very little time at all.

    6. Re:Time by Digicrat · · Score: 2

      The trademark feature of the E-ink version of the Nook is that it ALSO has a small LCD display. Your not going to be able to play videos on the big screen, but there's no reason you can't watch them on the tiny one. Now, whether or not there's a point to that may be another question, but the option is there.

      People are definitely rooting both versions of the Nook, E-Ink and Color.

    7. Re:Time by hey! · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, been there, done that. I'm generally happy with the results. I thought I'd address the issue with playing videos, then make a few remarks about the advisability of rooting your Nook.

      I have not had a problem with playing videos I transcoded from DVD, but it took a little fiddling to get the transcoding details right. Thus far I've had pretty good results with the following (on Linux);

      (1) Rip the DVD program to a file like so:
            mplayer dvd://1 -dumpstream -dumpfile myfile

      This takes the first program (dvd://1) on the DVD, dumps the video and audio (-dumpstream) to a file you specify (myfile). I do this so I can muck around with the transcoding.

      (2) Transcode the file into H264 baseline profile like so:
            ffmpeg -i myfile -threads 0 -vcodec libx264 -acodec aac -strict experimental -ab 128k -vpre hq -vpre baseline -b 600k myVideo.mp4

      Your distro may require "-acodec libaac" instead, and you might want to double the audio bit rate ("-ab 256k") if you really care about the sound. Expect the transcoding to take several hours.

      The results are very good, more than acceptable as far as the video is concerned. The picture has snap and is for the most part motion is smooth. Dark scenes with continuous variations in tone tend to get blotchy, but not as bad as I've had trancoding DVDs to MPEG-4 for my iPod. If there is a lot of busy action in a dark scene you lose some detail. The aspect ratio doesn't match the Nook screen, and for some reason the video does not quite scale to the full width of the screen, although that hardly matters.

      The audio is OK out of the speakers (considering) but sounds distorted through headphones -- at least a good pair. This is probably the fault of the experimental aac codec on Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit. You could try encoding to MP3 with LAME instead; I think that should work and should sound good enough for most mortal ears. Alternatively you could go to 256K AAC audio encoding with "-ac 256" and see if the sound's a bit cleaner. I haven't got around to messing with that, but if I can get the audio just right I'd be delighted with the Nook for playing transcoded DVDs.

      In any case, I figured this out just out of cussedness. If playing video is really important to you, perhaps you should get a real, more expensive tablet. The main reason I rooted my Nook was to get access to my Kindle library. I found that computer books on the Kindle sucked. This is largely a matter of sloppy conversion, but source code and tables are often provided as images rather than text, and even where provided as text source code is often unreadable on the Kindle. Ironically, I found the iPhone app to be better for reading Kindle computer books than the Kindle. The Nook's screen is a little more fatiguing for long reading sessions than the Kindle, but it's much easier to see diagrams, especially color, but not *just* color. Text tables are a lot easier to make out.

      One fault of the Nook reader app is that you can't zoom in on images (although they're more usable than on the Kindle even though you *can* zoom in on that). But if you read your *Kindle* books on the Nook, the Kindle reader for Android allows you to zoom in. So again, Kindle books that rely on illustrations are more usable in the Kindle app running on a rooted Nook than they are either on the Kindle itself or in the Nook reader, which is too bad. I'm trying to support B&N by buying books through the Nook store.

      The only other minor issue with using a rooted Nook as a tablet is that unless the method you choose installs a custom tablet UI, you're going to deal with the fact that the Nook lacks the hardware buttons Android 2.x expects a phone to have (search,menu,home, back). The hack I used installed a small on-screen button that brings up a soft menu version of these. It works, but it is not elegant.

      My summary: I wouldn't buy the Nook color with the intention of rooting it and using it as a tablet. In a tablet I'd bluetooth and some kind of provision for A/V out. However it's a darn good eReader, and if you have it you might as well root it and be able to use it as a tablet and a Kindle reader too.

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    8. Re:Time by basotl · · Score: 2

      Well as said there are lots of options but that is beyond the basic root. I tend to point people to this wiki and just say use the autonooter for your version: http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Rooting Step by step. If a person can't follow that... then they should pay the couple hundred more and get something else.

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  3. BTDT by Nexus7 · · Score: 2

    Overat Slatedroid.com, they've been turning the Pandigital Novel Reader into a full Android tablet for over a year now. During this past holiday season, discounts brought the price to around $70 - for this 7" color tablet.

    1. Re:BTDT by Lumpy · · Score: 2

      And it sucks. Really it does. Only the latest release fixes the sleep problem. And the tablet is slow as hell, the wireless weak as hell and slow as molasses...

      I have one here all hacked and the hacked market installed... I dont like waiting for everything to load and reading large PDF's on it is a exercise in pain....

      Hacking these is great, but they are low end hardware packages. Android needs 1.2ghz or higher and a lot more ram than these things come with.

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  4. More likely to signal a change in Nook design by perpenso · · Score: 3, Informative

    Could this signal a change in how mainstream users see devices like this?

    Its more likely to signal an upcoming change in Nook design and/or software.

    Could rooting Android devices like the Nook ever become mainstream?"

    Perhaps after the Linux desktop becomes mainstream.

    1. Re:More likely to signal a change in Nook design by pscottdv · · Score: 2

      I don't see how this is bad for B&N. Unless the hack destroys the DRM of the books, anything that will increase sales of the nook will keep B&N one extra step from bankruptcy.

      You can install the Kindle app on a rooted Nook Color.

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    2. Re:More likely to signal a change in Nook design by node+3 · · Score: 2

      I don't see how this is bad for B&N. Unless the hack destroys the DRM of the books, anything that will increase sales of the nook will keep B&N one extra step from bankruptcy.

      If they sell them at a loss, however... If the Nook is a reasonable tablet for $250, why aren't other companies selling them at similar prices?

      As far as who will hack it, it may be more than we think. People who have no clue how o install an OS are hacking the iPhone. Of course, a many average users are incapable of following simple instructions, or conceptualizing how a computer works, so they will not be hacking.

      The only numbers I could find are from 2009. Less than 7% of iPod touches and iPhones were jailbroken then. It's worth noting that this was before multitasking was brought to iOS, and also before WiFi hotspot sharing, both of which were major reasons people gave for jailbreaking. Also, these are earlier adopters than those buying iOS devices today, so of the 100 million or so new customers, it's less likely they will be as technically proficient as those people from early 2009.

      Jailbreaking/rooting/custom firmware flashing will never become mainstream.

  5. No, this isn't going to become mainstream by DavidinAla · · Score: 2

    You can also find books and websites about how to build your own car, but hardly anybody does that, statistically speaking. The fact that something CAN be done doesn't necessarily mean that most people want to do it. For a small minority, it's vaguely interesting that it's possible, but the majority just want a product that works. The actual percentage of people who actually turn a Nook into a cheap tablet would be astonishingly small, IMO.

  6. I love my Nook Color by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I currently own a nook color that I rooted with Eclair (2.1). For me I wanted something in between a phone and a full laptop for when I am sitting around in waiting rooms. It serves this purpose perfectly. I would not give this tablet to anyone who tech illiterate though, as it is still rough around the corners. Given that the hack is only a few months old, I am extremely impressed with its current abilities, especially with its low price tag, and am eager to see how it continues to progress. Some of the cons are that it is not 3G, does not have a camera, and its sensors may be lacking or the hack making them available seems to be lacking. Though the hack does bring some entirely new functionality to the Nook. It was found that the WiFi chip also includes Bluetooth which is turned off in software. It is now available in some of the ROM's and now provides the ability for Bluetooth keyboards and SIP calling.

    Overall, I could not be happier with a $200 tablet. It really does everything I need it to do and then some. It has decent battery life and retains all of the standard Nook functionality in addition to the features provided by rooting it. I consider it a great value when compared to the Galaxy tab as I find it difficult rationalizing the missing features are worth an additional $400. Moreover, so far it seems that B&N have been amenable to people rooting their Nook. As they should, since I buy books from B&N that I wouldn't have previously, and am encouraging others to buy their hardware and books because of their attitude towards the hacking community and the versatility of their hardware.

    It really seems like one of those rare situations where everyone is winning. Fortunately, B&N doesn't seem to be in a hurry to shoot themselves in the foot with both barrels, a la, Sony, etc.

    1. Re:I love my Nook Color by basotl · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Booksellers in Barnes and Noble often seem to point out that it can be rooted to any "geeky" individuals they notice browsing the device.

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  7. Re:Full Fledged Android Tablet? by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    From someone that has done this and used a Galaxy tab for a short time... It's not the same, not even close. the Nook Color is slow as molasses compared to the Galaxy tab or even a 1st gen ipad.

    It's a great hack for the poor, but useability is very low due to the limited ram and really slow processor.

    IF all you want to do is run the facebook app and the twitter app along with your ebooks, it's great. If you think you will use it as a full-on tablet.... well get used to S-L-O-W.....

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  8. Re:Full Fledged Android Tablet? by basotl · · Score: 3, Informative

    I purchased my NookColor just after launch and preceded to root it.

    I use it for reading books, PDF's, Church Applications (a nice Scripture program), taking notes, calendaring, news apps, irc and some games.
    It experiences glitches less than my Android phone but others experience may be diffeerent.

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  9. Re:Courier by hairyfeet · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So let me ask you a question: Do you get paid to herd 100 or so shill accounts, AKA the HB Gary troll herder software, or do they pay you to set up accounts one at a time, ala the old slow way? How are the benefits? Do you get dental and vision? 401K? I'd really like to know as frankly I could do about 1000% better job than you shills without even trying, your so damned obvious it ain't even funny.

    As for TFA, we and the posters must have different definitions of "cheap". Those $100 aPads are cheap, $250 for an E-reader? The hell with that. Hell at that price I can get a netbook, why would I wan t this thing rooted or not? hell the iPad I is selling now for $300, this thing is too high with a capital T.

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  10. Re:Full Fledged Android Tablet? by basotl · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Nook Color has the same amount of ram as the Galaxy Tab. I don't know what you are talking about there.
    http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/nook-color-technical/3483-nookcolor-full-specifications.html
    http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_p1000_galaxy_tab-3370.php

    In addition rooting allows overclocking the Nook Color which greatly increases the speed.

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  11. Re:Ask Slashdot: Ebay Chinise Tablet "EPAD" by cstec · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually resistive touch screens work fine with a finger, no stylus necessary. Case in point a Palm Treo, which was designed to be dialed with a finger tip. The stylus gives much finer control so apps were written to leverage that, but that wasn't a requirement and any number of Palm apps were 'finger friendly. For a more recent example, the HTC Sense UI is entirely finger oriented and runs perfectly on WinMo devices like a Touch Pro 2.

  12. Re:Full Fledged Android Tablet? by RightSaidFred99 · · Score: 2

    But it doesn't have a really slow processor. It's UC'd to 800MHz, you can easily OC it to 1.1 GHz.

  13. Re:Full Fledged Android Tablet? by Aighearach · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The one useful thing about root-ing it, other than giggles, might be underclocking it even more to improve the battery life.

  14. Re:Full Fledged Android Tablet? by ZosX · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Uh it has the same memory as a galaxy tab and can be overclocked to 1ghz. While the arm core may not be as fast as a galaxy, it can't be nearly as slow as my ancient G1 at 600mhz, which is happily running froyo at the moment and has the least amount of RAM of any android device. (192MB) If 512mb in android isn't enough for you maybe you need to lay off all the widgets and background apps stealing CPU cycles. I would imagine that a lean Nook running froyo would be more than just usable.

    The galaxy tab is nice, but also over twice the price of a nook. For some speed isn't everything. I mean what are we really talking about here? Another 2-5 seconds to load a web page? Another 2-3 seconds to load an app? Does everything have to be immediate? I don't see the appeal of the tab either. The honeycomb based tablets are the next generation. It will be interesting when that level of hardware starts hitting close to the price of a nook now.

  15. Nook Color could satiate desire for iPads by schwnj · · Score: 2

    I had been thinking about getting an iPad for a long time. Eventually, decided to hold out for the iPad 2. But one day I was walking through Barnes and Noble, and took a good look at the Nook Color. After reading up on the rooting instructions, I bought the NC for $250, rooted it, and, after a month, my desire for the iPad is gone. I suppose that there will always be people like me who want an iPad but will actually be just as happy with something else. (And the 50% discount from the iPad helps too.) I should also reiterate the fact that there are three flavors of the Nook Color, but not all will suffice as a tablet:

    STOCK: Right now, the stock NC has a browser and could serve as a basic tablet for someone. But B&N is soon going to be updating the NC with Froyo and the app market, which will make it much more like a tablet.

    ROOTED STOCK: This is the best option as of today. Rooting took me only about 20 minutes, and the process is non-technical/noob friendly. Rooting will get you the market, google apps, push gmail, a new launcher (which will make it look like a true tablet), and softkeys (to replace the missing navigation keys that are on all android phones).

    CUSTOM ROM: This has the most promise, but it is not quite ready. Cyanogenmod has nightly builds of CM7 for the NC. As others said above, this will be awesome. I run CM7 on my phone, and I love it. Once it is fully ported to the NC, it will truly be a full-function tablet that can directly compete with the iPad. There are also some custom builds that you can install to a bootable microSD card that run both Froyo and Honeycomb.

  16. The rooting process takes less than 5 minutes by cabbiebot · · Score: 2

    This is assuming everything is set up. If you hand me a nookcolor out of the box, 5 minutes later I will hand you back an android tablet. One powers down the device, inserts the autonooter'd micro-sd card, plug the device into a power source, and it will automatically boot, go through the process of establishing ADB root access and place superuser (among other things like market, youtube, etc) into /system/app. It will then reboot after about 5 minutes once it's done its magic and voila. Where people get hung up on is burning the autonooter image to the SD card, and its a bit harder to do on Windows since you need to download the free app 'WinImage' to do so, whereas on linux and Mac you simply do the dd command from the terminal. So the actual rooting is extremely fast, its reading up on how to burn the image and then then subsequent steps to establish market access that can take some time. It's stupid simple and laid out very clearly on the nookcolor wiki, though, and the #nookcolor channel on freenode is available for troubleshooting. I have talked with thousands of customers face to face and less than 1% have any idea of what rooting is, and for them the nookcolor is already more than enough tablet for them. Web browser, video playback, pandora, books, magazines, newspapers. But for the few who do mention it and I've vetted as savvy enough to get it, popping out my own NC with CM7, with live wallpapers, market access, all sorts of apps...thats a sale I'm certain to make. Since such a small number of people, respectively, unlock the device, I do not believe B&N will revise the hardware to change the boot order (NC is hardwired to boot off SD, which is why all this is possible). The vast majority of people love the NC just how it is, locked down yet very functional and rave to their friends about it. Couple that with how the dev community is keeping the NC in the press constantly (ie. getting the Cyanogen blessing, bluetooth enabled, overclocked, each of these has gotten it into the blogs), it's a win-win. The only real drawback for B&N would be if people chose to install the Kindle app and not the Nook app. However, after talking with many rooted users, they all seem to understand that they should reward B&N with their business for digital content whenever possible. The last thing anyone wants is for them to regret putting the most open, hackable android device ever out on the market.

  17. You don't need to root it to use as a tablet by kimgkimg · · Score: 2

    The Nook Color will always boot from the microSD card first, so you just need to insert a boot ROM image burned onto a card and it'll just work from that. There's nothing else that needs to be done. This is the easiest route and takes no longer than 10 minutes (most of that time probably waiting for the ISO download and imaging it to the SD card.)

  18. It's ok, Microsoft into the breach... by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 2

    Barnes and Noble aren't suing, but predictably Microsoft is. They don't like Nook+Android for some reason. PJ over at Groklaw thinks it's "SCO II" Ref: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110321172008657

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  19. Re:Courier by hairyfeet · · Score: 2

    Oh I didn't expect one (although I think its funny him or one of his buddies came along as an AC to insult me LOL) but I do think it is important to point out astroturfing wherever it shows its ugly head as i think it is a serious threat to freedom.

    I mean it is bad enough you can get astroturf campaigns like the Tea Party, aka the Koch Brothers Express, but at least there they have to pay people to actually show up, pay press to report, etc so it leaves an easy to follow money trail, but online discussion is one of the few places where one can speak openly anymore thanks to all the government and corporate spying (which is why many want you to be tied to an online identity, so they can punish you when you don't toe the party line) but now even that is being threatened by obvious paid shills like the poster I was responding to.

    For now it is easy to spot, as they can't quit kissing ass or speaking corporate buzzword bingo, like in the above where an article on a completely different device gets a plug for a vaporware product designed to kill iPad sales that frankly a good 98% of the average folks would have never even heard of. So NOW is the time to nip that shit in the bud, NOW is the time to make sure their corporate master know their money is being wasted as it turns off those that might otherwise buy by "poisoning the well" and building bad will.

    So we really need to point these clowns out, before we get drowned out by HB Gary shillbots. It is pretty easy to spot a real person VS a shill. Look at me for an example, everyone who takes a look at my history knows I like Windows desktops, Linux embedded and Web Servers. I'm more than happy to point out shitty attributes of any and all products I use, hell if they were to lock me in a room with the Windows development team I'd spend the day pointing out things I think are shit .

    But shills, especially the HB Gary shillbomb type, can ruin the whole thing by burying the good under the shit and frankly I LIKE /. and I LIKE having discussions on geek items that you actually have to think and which go deep. These shillbombs are about as deep as a kiddy pool, they are just "You should use Brand X, now with SmileX!" and frankly sour the whole discussion. And sorry about the length, but for the past few weeks it has been pretty obvious MSFT has targeted /. with a shill team and frankly it stinks. I can guarantee that while I may still need to sell Windows there will be NO WinPhones and NO X360s going through this shop or allowed in my home. I won't support shilling.

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  20. Unless you can also reduce the core voltage by pipedwho · · Score: 2

    Most of those embedded systems don't have a programatically (or automatically) controllable core voltage rail. In that case (given a constant voltage), the speed increase is linearly proportional to F, so you're better off just getting your stuff over and done with and then going into idle.

    If the core voltage is configurable, then underclocking becomes significantly more useful as power consumed is proportional to V squared. Since decreasing the operational voltage generally also requires the clock rate to be reduced, the term underclocking generally assumes both conditions are being met to maximise the benefits.

  21. Half Hour? by Svartalf · · Score: 2

    Heh... It took all of about 10-15 minutes tops. I've been running Honeycomb on it for a bit now and I must say that while the build's got rough edges, it's good enough to allow me to properly target the games I want to make to the upcoming tablets as well as to phones.

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