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Fukushima Radiation Levels High, But Leak Plugged
jmcvetta wrote in with a story about Fukushima radiation levels so high that monitoring devices have been rendered useless. Levels outside the buildings exceed 100 millisieverts in some places. But the good news is that the leak is patched using 1500 liters of sodium silicate.
Helpful radiation chart for those of us who don't have a clue whether 100 millisieverts is a tiny dose or enough to create a Godzilla monster.
In short, it's definitely into the "You might want to step-up your planned schedule on those cancer screenings" territory.
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It's a portal... to somewhere... that they can transfer the radioactive materials.
100 millisieverts? Per hour? Per day? Per century? Thanks, Slashdot, for giving us a useless number.
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"Leak Plugged" ? Yea right. After the pumped 11,000 tons of radioactive water into the ocean there is not more water to leak.. Give me a break.
Using 1,500,000 of those packets that come with your shoes. "Do not eat!"
The leak that was stopped was from a drain pit to the ocean. The reactor itself is still leaking highly radioactive water. They're running out of places to put it.and are frantically building tanks and ponds.
So according to the chart, if you hang around an area with 100 mS per hour for an hour, you'll receive a dose likely to cause cancer. Hang around for 4 hours, and you get radiation poisoning. That's not a lot of time - it takes days of labor to do anything major. Probably takes 30 minutes just to walk around part of the plant looking for radiation leaks. This must be why it took so long to plug that water leak - no one could hang around the leak for more than brief intervals.
Heck, even refueling a diesel pump - which is just increasing the amount of highly radioactive water you have to dispose of somehow - is going to take 20 minutes at a minimum, right?
I'm sure the workers are doing what they can - sprinting through the hot areas, working in shifts, using automation when they can - but the larger the contaminated area gets and the more fission products leak the worse the problem becomes. If you cannot even enter the building the reactor is in, how can you fix anything? They can't just send in robots and spray concrete willy nilly - if the reactor cores fully melt down and form critical masses at the bottom of the reactor vessel, gigawatts of heat will be produces and burn through any containment.
They need to have active pumps flushing water through the reactor vessels and out to the cooling tower and back again. This is the only method that won't create more and more radioactive water that has to be disposed of. (because right now they are just pumping water in and it leaks out of the reactor vessel and pools somewhere)
But to do that, somehow has to enter the building, install new pumps, fix breaks in the wiring, fix holes in the pipes, install sensors, power it up, and so forth. That's many hours of labor, and beyond the dexterity of what robots can do.
http://xkcd.com/radiation/
Japan's ocean radiation hits 7.5 million times legal limit
TOKYO â" The operator of Japan's stricken Fukushima nuclear plant said Tuesday that it had found radioactive iodine at 7.5 million times the legal limit in a seawater sample taken near the facility, and government officials imposed a new health limit for radioactivity in fish.
The reading of iodine-131 was recorded Saturday, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said. Another sample taken Monday found the level to be 5 million times the legal limit. The Monday samples also were found to contain radioactive cesium at 1.1 million times the legal limit.
The exact source of the radiation was not immediately clear, though Tepco has said that highly contaminated water has been leaking from a pit near the No. 2 reactor. The utility initially believed that the leak was coming from a crack, but several attempts to seal the crack failed.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/04/05/111571/japans-ocean-radiation-hits-75.html
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They are being totally selfish and turning a blind eye to what the government has been trying to tell them. They have many millions more gallons of water than they can store. Some of it has to be dumped. They could dump some less contaminated water from the storage pond to make room for much more dangerous water that has to be removed from the reactors, OR they could stop using the pond and just dump that highly radioactive water from the reactors straight into the ocean, which would be much worse for the fishing industry over the next several years. No one else has a better idea, unless these fishermen care to stop by with some buckets?
They're upset at what's happening, and are lashing out and treating it like they're the deliberate targets of a random malicious decision. It's the best option available at this time. I don't even know if a technology exists to remove radiation from water, I'm assuming it either doesn't exist or is too slow to be practical otherwise they wouldn't be using storage ponds in the first place.
I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
Not a problem, we'll just throw the fish in jail and we'll be good to go.
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I admittedly know very little to nothing about nuclear power, or the complexities of building a reactor. Why don't they build these things below ground level so that if something like this happens, they can just pour in water - or even seal the thing off with tons of concrete?
i wonder what the 1/2 life is of some Fukushima sushimi, say in a Kansas sushi bar ?, anyones thyroid would be pumping at the thought of todays catch in that cool glass cabinet. Spear fishing anyone ? or can Virgin Oceanic pick one up ?
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100 mS per hour
100 milliseconds per hour?
I think you mean "100 mSv per hour"
That is what I read the first time, sounded like Nuclear Pr0n... ;-)
Even if they get the hydrogen under control, the amount of water, the damage to the secondary containment, the likely damage to primary containment, the contamination of the site, it's not just that Fukushima Daiichi will never operate again. Daiichi will be entombed and left to decay for at least a decade, probably longer, much longer. All six reactors are lost, 5&6 are just not going to be operated because it is too hot to work there 8 hours a day.
While they wait for decay to lower levels enough for machines to clean things up, there will be continuing groundwater and soil contamination. They will have to build a new seawall and interceptor wells to limit (not prevent) contamination of the local sea. The local population won't be allowed within 12km, and they won't WANT to be within 20km or more. Agriculture will likely be ruined, having to wait for years to once again export their products. It's the Cesium isotopes that will cause the worst problems, and cause the lasting effects, and they are not able to contain this yet. Hopefully #3 won't blow a Plutonium cloud that, even if it were minimal, would poison the area for the forseeable future. There is no assurance that this will not happen.
This is already inevitable, and there will be no real discussion, because TEPCO cannot admit to the inevitable outcome yet. To do so is to admit defeat, lose all face, and watch them become a single-yen stock.
And somehow Japan needs to replace the generating capacity. Quickly.
Overall this situation is redefining 'worst-case'. It may have been simpler to have a couple of core melts and just pour concrete and sand over the whole damned thing. Now we've gotten broken containment, multiple vectors, and inadequate resources. Oh, and the Japanese way of self-reliance to the point of failure. Works for the residents and their migration, doesn't work for engineering problems.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
I'd like a machine that can travel at 100 mS per hour.
I think they call it a Tardis. It's just not a very good one.
Well it does look like they have finally got this under control, at least for the most part.
Hopefully now we can have the debate over what exactly is going to replace this reactor? It's obvious that these reactors will never generate electricity again, but they have provided something like almost 20% of the power to the Tokyo region.
Thus far we have heard nothing on what the government and/or TEPCO(probably soon to be one and the same) plan to do to generate more power. Factories that have repaired the physical damage to their plants cannot start up because they are under the constant threat of rolling blackouts. Even though the blackouts may only run a couple of hours, it basically scuttles production for the whole day as starting up a lot of the large(and expensive!) machines at some of these plants can take hours. The more time goes on without production the more damage it does to supply lines, and perhaps more significantly for Japan's long term prospects, it provides a huge financial impetus to move production overseas(mostly China and Korea).
China is already taking advantage of this opportunity to smear Japan and make it look more dangerous than it actually is. While one could argue this is largely China attempting to score a political victory(the past century hasn't been too kind to Chinese-japanese diplomacy), but just as importantly China is not so subtly trying to scare people into moving production from Japan to China. Japan needs a new plan for new energy quick....
This is going to be a really shitty(sweaty?) summer......
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Your idea's good points are:
[x]It would be easier to prevent dissipation of radioactive gases.
[x]Terrorists would have a harder time hitting a reactor.
Your idea's bad points are:
[x]It would cost extra money to prepare the building site.
[x]It would cost extra money to build the reactor.
[x]It would be harder to access the reactor if an earthquake damaged the site.
[x]It does not prevent leakage of radioactive materials to the ground water.
[x]It does not fully prevent the risk of an explosion and fracture of containment vessels.
[x]Depending on the site, there might be an increased risk of flooding with water or mud.
[x]While it would be easy to add a lid of concrete, building the box below the lid would have to happen in advance and would cost extra money.
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Workers are pumping nitrogen into one of the reactors at Japan's damaged nuclear plant in an attempt to prevent an explosion caused by dangerously overheated fuel rods.
Officials at TEPCO, which operates the Fukushima plant, said a dangerous hydrogen buildup is taking place at its number-one reactor. Japan's NHK television quoted officials saying hydrogen is accumulating inside the reactor's containment vessel - an indication that the reactor's core has been damaged.
Crisis at Japan Nuclear Plant Shifts to New Blast Risk
Chemistry 201: Why Is Fukushima So Gassy?
But there are reasons...that Fukushima is particularly vulnerable.
One is its recent use of seawater to cool the reactors's fuel rods and cores. In addition to the oxygen in water molecules, cold seawater can hold a great deal of dissolved oxygen gas. But warm water cannot; so as the seawater was heated in the reactor, the dissolved oxygen emerged and gathered in the empty space above the water.
(Ordinary reactor cooling water has had the oxygen removed from it by plant operators to reduce the possibility of rust.)
In addition, gamma radiation from the nuclear fuel in the reactor would continuously produce small amounts of hydrogen and oxygen by breaking up water molecules --- and the normal method of recombining these elements into water at such plants in a controlled fashion is no longer available.
Plants of the Fukushima variety usually have catalytic converters that accomplish that at the point where steam has run through the turbine and is condensed back into water for another trip through the reactor. But that path has been closed since the plant lost power at the moment of the March 11 earthquake.
Hydrogen can also emerge from the zirconium metal used as fuel cladding. One of the lessons of the Three Mile Island accident in 1979 near Harrisburg, Pa., is that when the cladding comes into contact with steam rather than water, it goes through a reaction that is akin to rusting; it picks up oxygen from the water molecule and gives off hydrogen.
This only happens at high temperatures, but uncertainty reigns at the moment about temperatures in the Fukushima reactor cores. With some cooling channels blocked, they are likely to have hot spots.
By design, boiling water reactors like these have far more zirconium metal in them than pressurized water reactors do. They boil water directly in the core, covering the fuel assemblies with a water/steam mixture rather than keeping them immersed in water. The water has to be directed to each individual fuel assembly and therefore each sits in its own zirconium box.
All of that zirconium is available for an oxidation reaction with steam in which the metal absorbs oxygen from water and turns to a powdery rust, releasing hydrogen.
Better than a butt-plugged leak?
Excuse me, but I'm an NBC executive and was wondering if you might be interested in having your "Fish Jail" idea developed into a sitcom for our Thursday night lineup. Please...we're desperate...call me.
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Millisieverts, megasieverts, whaterver.....
Radiation monitors designed for people working at a site that has chronic exposure risk, maybe. Personal radiation monitors for acute exposure can handle well above 100 mSv/hr. Radiation monitors in general can measure above 100 Sv/hr, 3 orders of magnitude higher than what they're talking about. It's not that the levels of radiation are "immeasurable", as the article incorrectly states. It's just that they apparently don't have equipment on hand sufficient to measure it.
That's always a good thing.
And connects to a drain at the bottom of a pit underneath a nuclear reactor. And this is to help when they wax the floors? This is to clean up after barbecues? This drain is used when the have the weekly trim everyones hair day underneath the reactors? Considering these buildings are supposed to be nearly hermetically sealed, why the snot do the plans call for a pipe that goes out the the friggin ocean?
I, for one, preping to welcome our new Godzilla overlords.
It's just a matter of time before a new superhero will appear and help us out. We all know the consequences of being bitten by a radioactive spider. We just have to wait until a fisherman gets bitten by a radioactive shark (with or w/o laser) or stung by a radiating jellyfish. Jellyman to the rescue!!
What person will donate an airborne act of love?
Geeeeez.
I'm not a nuclear engineer, but why can't they remove the fuel rods instead of trying to cool them on site? That would not be a bad idea for the reactors with compromised containment. A meltdown without containment would be a near Chernobyl disaster (what an awful metric).
The reactor must have some sort of rod extraction device, since they have to change the rods ocasionally. Maybe that device wasn't damaged by the quake.
Grab a lead box with a reliable cooling system, put it on top of a truck and use robots to drop the rod inside the box. Of course actually doing it would not be so simple, so feel free to add your knowledge/insight.
Am I the only one who read "Butt Leak Plugged"?
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He's referring to Helium 3 which is thought to be abundant on the moon and very rare here. Great for fusion power.
[RIAA] says its concern is artists. That's true, in just the sense that a cattle rancher is concerned about its cattle.
What I don't see enough discussion about is the bioaccumulative effect.
For catch-up: fat-soluble toxins can accumulate in the bodies of organisms such that at every step of the food chain, the concentration is multiplied. It's not just a single species accreting the toxin, but what happens when its predators are eating from this concentrated source. Any links up the food chain up to the apex predator are going to have a multiplied effect, which is why a seemingly insignificant amount of mercury pollution versus the ocean's volume has made tuna consumption a point of caution.
We are seeing radiation levels that could be a bit of a concern and the Fukushima situation is still not under control. And are some of the compounds it's emitting bioaccumulative? Yes, Cesium 137 for example, and that has a half-life of 30 years. And the first thing you should do is move your consumption as far down the food chain as possible. Even if you don't plan to go vegan, learn Indian cooking or a low-meat cuisine, because the less animal product you're consuming, the better.
Sources:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11482657
http://www.marietta.edu/~biol/102/2bioma95.html
http://science.jrank.org/pages/854/Bioaccumulation.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-rainwater-radiation-181-times-above-us-drinking-water-standard-2011-4
Well it does look like they have finally got this under control, at least for the most part.
Plugging one leak does not mean the situation is even close to being under control. Hidehiko Nishiyama, a spokesman for the Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, said:
... no further leakage has been detected from the pit. But there is a possibility that the water, which has lost an outlet, could show up from other areas of the plant.
The highly radioactive water is believed to have come from the No. 2 reactor core, where fuel rods have partially melted, and ended up in the pit. The pit is connected to the No. 2 reactor turbine building and an underground trench connected to the building, both of which were found to be filled with highly contaminated water.
Thousands of tons of highly radioactive water had already been found in many places outside the reactor buildings even before the direct leak into the ocean was discovered. Is there anything more substantial than crossed fingers and wishful thinking that makes you think the flow of highly radioactive water will halt now that they've plugged the direct outlet into the ocean?
In addition:
According to estimates by TEPCO announced Wednesday, 25 percent of the nuclear fuel rods have been damaged at the No. 3 reactor. The company earlier said that 70 percent of the No. 1 reactor's fuel rods and 30 percent of the No. 2 reactor's fuel rods have been damaged.
Nishiyama said past hydrogen explosions have likely occurred due to hydrogen accumulation caused by the reaction of melted fuel rods' zirconium with steam from the coolant water. But now there is concern that hydrogen could accumulate in the No. 1 reactor under a different process involving radiation-induced decomposition of water into hydrogen and oxygen.
The installation of billion dollar radiation shielding around the reactor buildings has to be delayed until at least September because, of the high level of radioactivity. In other words, they need to wait for the current levels of radioactivity to decay before it is safe enough to install radiation shielding. So, ISTM, the September date is optimistically assuming the ongoing contamination will magically stop. Yet, even if the shielding could be installed tomorrow:
Some experts were sceptical about the feasibility of the measure as the step would have only limited effects in blocking the release of radioactive substances.
That is because the bulk of the release of radioactivity is downward in the water, not upward into the air. The shielding story highlights the challenge they are up against. The level of radioactivity around the plants (and in the plants) is so high, it is impeding their efforts to control the amount of radioactivity escaping. For example, work to restore the primary cooling system for reactor #2 has been halted for almost two weeks because of the high levels of radiation in the turbine building. The radiation level, due to highly radioactive water in the building, is over one sievert per hour. So a worker hits their lifetime dose limit less than 15 minutes. Someone who lingers there for an 8 hour shift will die regardless of what treatment they receive. It's been reported that the level of radioactivity in reactor buildings 1, 2, and 3 is too high to measure.
They are pouring hundreds of tons of uncontaminated water onto (into?) the reactors every day to cool them. Thousands of tons of this water has come out contaminated with radioactivity and has flooded the turbine buildings, tunnels outside the buildings, and the ground. They don't know how the water is getting contaminated or the routes it is taking
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I get what you are trying to say with this, but honestly when everyone says its safe, yet these kind of "accidents" can still occur it makes you step back and really weigh the positives and negatives.
For instance, in these plants they are using plutonium mox fuel. That shit has a halflife of 20,000 years. So it wont be completely nonreactive for approximately 250,000 years or 12000 human generations. Sure it shouldn't happen, and there were no doubt many mistakes by this particular company. But even if it is a possibility that this would happen, and it obviously is, should we not reconsider the long term environmental and other effects when we are possibly going to be affecting forward 12000 generations in the future?
So far in my life time (30 years) there have been 3 major nuclear accidents. Does this not at least warrant a second look? There are plenty of these unsafe plants active in the world, and yes I am aware there are safe reactor designs (CANDU). But when you factor in human greed, nuke plants run by the lowest bidder, should we even be doing it?
I was VERY pro nuclear power before this complete mess that has happened. Even though we will run out of uranium by 2100, even though fuel stays reactive for tens of thousands of years. But honestly, if the japanese cant even do it right, what hope do we have for any country out there?
The timescales alone are enough to make one pause. Can you really trust the next 12,000 generations of man to not have any accidents with spent fuel? Is that something that we should be burdening our future generations with for a short term gain today?
Further reading: 'No safe levels' of radiation in Japan
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Considering these buildings [the reactor buildings] are supposed to be nearly hermetically sealed, why the snot do the plans call for a pipe that goes out [to] the friggin ocean?
Your mistake was believing the bullshit some people have been spouting that the reactor buildings were a third layer of containment after the ziroconium clad fuel rods and the containment vessel. Here is excerpt from an article from earlier in the crisis called Containment vessel failure unlikely:
The containment vessel is the last line of defense for containing lethal radioactive materials, and significant damage would pose grave safety concerns.
Drains and tunnels actually make sense. When a reactor is functioning properly, almost all of the radioactivity is contained within the zirconium clad fuel rods. The water circulating around the rods that acts as both a cooler and a moderator (a moderator slows neutrons down to enable the chain-reaction) is not highly radioactive. For example, the water that flooded the turbine building for reactor #2 and a nearby tunnel is 100,000 times more radioactive than the water found inside a functioning reactor. I believe the water that was pouring into the ocean from the pit was only 10,000 times more radioactive. The drain was also never intended to pass tons of water (radioactive or not) into the ocean. The amount of radioactivity was probably more than 6 orders of magnitude greater than what was intended.
Your observation highlights the fact that the reactor buildings were never designed or intended to be a serious containment in the event of the failure of the containment vessel and fuel rods. Tens of thousands of tons of highly radioactive water have already escaped via routes other than the direct drain into the sea. It is therefore highly unlikely that plugging that drain will substantially reduce the amount of radioactivity that is spewing from the reactors.
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Fukushima Radiation Levels High, Butt-Plug Leaked?
I suggest for a more technical and extremely current explanation of the status of reactors and radiation levels you look at http://www.IAEA.org - while the UN has its political moments this site/agency doesn't seem to have any agenda.
Radioactive water found leaking into sea from pat at Japan nuclear plant. This radiation is now showing up in the rain water falling into the United States and Canada at levels 1000% of normal. This can be devastating to say the least to all humankind! The effects of radiation sickness and poisoning include cancer, genetic and reproductive damage, hormonal damage, and thyroid blockage (that's why they want you to take potassium iodine, another dangerous toxin) but I wouldn't. There are much safer substances like Zeolite. http://www.prlog.org/11417424-natural-treatment-for-radiation-exposure-what-you-need-to-know-to-not-get-sick.html A couple good articles on radiation sickness protection that shows what you need do to test radiation levels, treat water, and what to take internally to not get sick: Water Purification Radiation Sickness
Also the inverse-nth-power approsimations assume the radiation isn't absorbed by air at all (a good approximation for gamma, wildly pessimistic for beta)
Make that "... wildly pessimistic for alpha."
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I should think geothermal would give it a run for its money in safety.
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It's not good to dump more radioactive water into the ocean. I would not approve of such a plan except in the most dire conditions. But let's not get crazy. Apparently that water was less radioactive than this particular bit of ocean already was.
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Prob OT, but hoping someone can maybe answer this here. I seem to remember bacteria that can consume/metabolize radiation (I might not be using right terminology). I know a little about radioactive decay from HS science and realize that the site will be contaminated for 100's or 1000's of years. Would using this bacteria if it exists or could be used for this purpose be somehow help? Or is this worse assuming if its really not a good idea to let the buggers out into the environment, like the ocean which given the current status of the site is inevitable?
Is there some current research in nuclear containment that I can contribute money to or push my government to put this to the UN, IAEA, academia or something for research? As in all other science research if government or private industry don't see it as a priority or profitable, it will never see light of day in research grants. Its sad to see the suffering caused not only by this incident but others people in Chernobyl area are still paying the price. :-(
100 millisieverts per...? A millisievert is a specific amount.
A millisiervet is a specfic amount. It is a measure of dosage and since the chart is a chart of dosages, there is no per anything.
For example, the chart says one chest x-ray gives you a dose of 20 microsieverts. That is the total dose you get from the chest x-ray. There are no time units involved. It is like someone tells you that it is approximately 400 miles from Memphis to Knoxville and you then ask "miles per what?".
I grant you that media reports often incorrectly give dosage rates in millisieverts instead of the correct millisieverts per hour. FYI, when this happens, just assume it is per hour unless otherwise stated. But the XKCD chart does not suffer from this flaw.
Here is another example. The XKCD chart says that 8 sieverts is a fatal dose even with treatment. If a worker at the Fukushima Daiichi plant enters the turbine building for reactor #2 and is exposed to 1 sievert per hour, how long does he have to stay there before he receives this fatal dose? How long does he have to stay there before he exceeds his dose limit?
Extra credit. Suppose you hear media reports that the radiation level in the turbine building of reactor #3 is 100 millisieverts. How long do you think a worker would have to be in that turbine building before he receives his dose limit?
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The time period is "since you were issued the dosimeter." Presumably at the start of your shift these days. It maxes at that exposure because at half that exposure you should flee. In normal plant operation you would then be banned from further work for a year.
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My dyslexia kicked in and the subject read as:
Fukushima Radiation Levels High, Leak Butt Plugged
Thank you. No, really, thank you...
According to a lecture of Dr. Muller at Cal Berkeley (you can even see his lectures on youtube), it takes 3 sieverts to your entire body to cause radiation sickness and then somewhere around 13 to kill you and around 25 to cause cancer at a 100% rate. So they're recording .1 sieverts outside of the building. Will that increase a chance of cancer? yes. Does that mean you'd get it with a good chance? not more than normal, but I wouldn't hang around there.
And every dawn brings a worse problem to fix.
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Look cowboy, we're three weeks into this thing and it's nowhere close to over. It still gets worse every day. There may still be (probably is) ongoing unplanned criticality in not one, not two, but three reactors at the same site. Reactor one has admittedly breached primary containment, and reactor two probably but not admittedly so. The potential for a much worse incident than Chernobyl still exists. If one of these three reactors pops the entire site is a no-operations zone, and that means the other three reactors and their spent fuel ponds also go up for lack of rescue, and maybe even spent fuel in five and six as well. We don't have any data on what that level of contamination does to the ocean because Chernobyl wasn't on the shore and it was only 1/10th this much fuel - but it can't be good. Before this is over the entire planet may be drinking Fukushima tea.
Unacceptable levels of radioactivity have already been found in little fish 40 miles from this plant. Little fish are eaten by bigger fish, and big fish swim very far. As Cesium goes to the top of the food chain measurable amounts will be in our tin of tuna for the rest of time.
Every ship that sails the sea has barnacles on its hull, and barnacles soak up iodine, cesium and plutonium like you wouldn't believe. Japan is completely hosed now, as they will shortly be cut off from the global economy. Ships will soon not even dare venture to the west coast of Japan, as they'll be delayed in every port thereafter for many years. India has banned all Japanese food imports, and they're India - they don't block incoming food trivially.
That one reactor that used Plutonium MOX has enough toxic Plutonium in it to kill hundreds of millions of people. Saying there's only one reactor using Plutonium doesn't make it all OK now.
Just... stop. We get that you're a nuke fan. Some of us are too. But now is just not the time for that. The time for poo-poohing the damage is after the crisis is averted. Come back in December and tell us this was overblown - if it was.
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Take a read in response to your feeble reply boy:
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2070784&cid=35745894
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Awwww, poor lil' HungryHobo: Trying to tell LIES, now?
(In the past here, HungryHobo here trolled & "started up" w/ me once before:
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1945994&cid=34862876
Now, I am simply 're-trolling' him, to show HIM how it feels having it done to he... & now, it seems that the 'great troller' in HungryHobo CANNOT TAKE WHAT HE DISHES OUT, lol!)
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Ahem: Since 1995, a lot more than just a screensaver is to my credit from the realm of both Freeware, Shareware, & since 1996, COMMERCIALLY SOLD SOFTWARE to MY CREDIT, whereas, YOU? You have "none of the above", lol!
Man... heck, I've done 3-4 screensavers too, as you mention, like this one:
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APK Matrix ScreenSaver 1.0++
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/390/APK_Matrix_ScreenSaver.html
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HOWEVER - On ScreenSavers, since you mention them?
Even though THAT one's VERY COOL??
Heh - I don't even keep them on my PARTIAL FAVORITES LIST (posting it here again below once more, for your reference & those of others too, so they can see HOW MUCH YOU LIE & LIBEL others, HungyHobo):
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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!
Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...
Being paid for an article that made me mo
The greatness that is APK...
http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20050207062122/http://www.pixelstation.com/APKWeb/software.html
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2071668&cid=35756728
(LMAO - That shows everyone here reading just how much of a lying, libelling, & trolling stalker + UTTER STUDENT NOOB "ne'er-do-well" that YOU REALLY ARE, HungryHobo!)
APK
P.S.=> Shouldn't have tried to "troll me" 1st as you did, HungryHobo... apk
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2071668&cid=35756728
(LMAO - That shows everyone here reading just how much of a lying, libelling, & trolling stalker + UTTER STUDENT NOOB "ne'er-do-well" that YOU REALLY ARE, HungryHobo!)
APK
P.S.=> You "Trolled ME", 1st, so... enjoy this "re-trolling" in return, where I shoot down the libel you've been speaking my way here... apk
Show us what you've done better!
"But, check him out. He's got mad skilz y'all!" - by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 08, @03:47PM (#35762014)
Show us what you've ever done? Nothing?? Of course.
"(I had to use archives because APK's actually been banned from the internet. The only known case!)" - by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 08, @03:47PM (#35762014)
Funny, I'm still here aren't I?
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-line: The day you can show us all that you've done more than I have per the list below, and before I have, + that did BETTER than this only partial list of my favorites, is the day the "likes of you", a lowly cowardly little WORM can even BEGIN to speak to myself, or anyone else for that matter, that way:
Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!
Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...
Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3
Lastly, lately (this year)?
It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them code for how to do Process Priority Control @ the GUI usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 level in their program (good one too), & being credited for it by their lead dev & his team... see here -> http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/handbook/Credits.html
apk
The day you can show us all that you've done more than I have per the list below, and before I have, + that did BETTER than this only partial list of my favorites, is the day the "likes of you", a lowly cowardly little WORM can even BEGIN to speak to myself, or anyone else for that matter, that way:
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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!
Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...
Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3
Lastly, lately (this year)?
It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them code for how to do Process Priority Control @ the GUI usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 level in their program (good one too), & being credited for it by their lead dev & his team... see here -> http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/handbook/Credits.html
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You TOP that (& it's only a list of partial favorites of mine only, limited no less vs. the entirety of what I could put up)? Then, you can talk, worm.
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-line: You're a COWARDLY LITTLE WORM, worse than a gossiping talk behind someone's back WOMAN... apk