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Sex After a Field Trip Yields Scientific Discovery

sciencehabit writes "A US vector biologist appears to have accidentally written virological history simply by having sex with his wife after returning from a field trip to Senegal. A study just released in Emerging Infectious Diseases suggests that the researcher, Brian Foy of Colorado State University, passed to his wife the Zika virus, an obscure pathogen that causes joint pains and extreme fatigue. If so, it would be the first documented case of sexual transmission of an insect-borne disease. The curious case also solves a viral mystery that's been going on for years."

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  1. Inquiring minds want to know... by Moderator · · Score: 2, Funny

    How many of Mr. Foy's female graduate assistants were tested for the disease?

    For all we know, there could be an outbreak going on right now at the CSU campus.

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    1. Re:Inquiring minds want to know... by fractoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How many of Mr. Foy's female graduate assistants were tested for the disease?

      For all we know, there could be an outbreak going on right now at the CSU campus.

      More importantly, how many mosquitoes are there around Mr. Foy's home and/or workplace? I mean, it's a friggin mosquito-borne disease. Living in the same house as his wife, you'd expect it to be as likely for them to both be bitten by the same mosquito as it would be for a disease to spread in a manner previously thought impossible.

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    2. Re:Inquiring minds want to know... by jcrb · · Score: 2

      For the insects its not an STD, its a DTD..... Dining Transmitted Disease.... or I suppose it could be an STD.... Snacking Transmitted Disease?

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    3. Re:Inquiring minds want to know... by Abstrackt · · Score: 2

      Sex with insects ... insectality? arthroality? arachnidality? what would be the proper terminology for this?

      Assuming your penis is small enough to pleasure an insect the correct term would probably be entomonality. FYI, arachnids are not insects; arachnids have eight legs, insects have six.

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    4. Re:Inquiring minds want to know... by Runaway1956 · · Score: 2

      Germs, bacteria, and viruse don't care HOW they are transmitted from one host to another. All they require are the correct temperatures, humidity, and nutrients. Since most of those little critters generally inhabit specific organs or tissue, they are generally not transmitted in unusual ways - but nothing actually bars them from unusual vectors. Imagine - little critter traffic cops, stopping the random green bug for traveling in an orange bug lane, LMAO!

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    5. Re:Inquiring minds want to know... by tehcyder · · Score: 3, Funny

      Assuming your penis is small enough to pleasure an insect the correct term would probably be entomonality. FYI, arachnids are not insects; arachnids have eight legs, insects have six.

      I always thought I was broadminded, but I draw the line at shagging tarantulas. That's just wrong.

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    6. Re:Inquiring minds want to know... by juasko · · Score: 2

      It's far from impossible with some of those diseases, cant remember for sure now, but hepatitis or type of hepatitis could be one of them. An other would be chlamydia. There is a third version of chlamydia that is even transmitted over air. But the infection will be in the lungs and not at genital ares as with the other two types of chlamydia, also sometimes refereed to as TWAR.

      You need to exchange lots of air to get an infection, why it's not common with norman dudes. However it's not uncommon among sportsmen who exchange a lot of air after a session. In the 80s or early 90s many who practiced orienteering (sports scouting) died due to that disease.

      I have a friend who in his teens where skein professionally, almost got o the skiing team that represents our country, who's career was stooped due to TWAR. Having it unknowingly for too long time gave him other diseases as side effects.

      So yes some of those sexually-vectored diseases definitely can be infections by other means.

    7. Re:Inquiring minds want to know... by Abstrackt · · Score: 2

      I always thought I was broadminded, but I draw the line at shagging tarantulas. That's just wrong.

      Yeah, it leaves you pretty itchy. ;)

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  2. I'm willing.... by Lord_of_the_nerf · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...to act as a control if you want.

    I'll be in the booth with no disease and Christina Hendricks. For science of course.

    1. Re:I'm willing.... by MyLongNickName · · Score: 5, Funny

      You already are in the "no sex" control group. Thanks for your contribution.

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    2. Re:I'm willing.... by syousef · · Score: 5, Funny

      You already are in the "no sex" control group. Thanks for your contribution.

      It might not be valid scientifically but so is Brian Foy, for the foreseeable future I would think.

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  3. Re:blood transmittable implies sexually transmitta by durrr · · Score: 2

    Not really.
    Consider that infection risk from tainted blood transfusion is 95% for HIV. While vaginal intercourse is 0.03%
    If the virus is much less infectious it probably becomes extremely unlikely for sexual transmission. Sortof like airborn transmission of HIV is also possible if you sneeze out a chunk of blood phlegm when someone is yawning nearby, but so extremely unlikely that it's not really worth mentioning.

  4. Hey, baby by Sean_Inconsequential · · Score: 2

    Hey, baby, want to make virological history?

    Eww, wait... no, that came out wrong. GAH! No, it didn't come out wrong like that... Someone isn't getting laid tonight. Sheesh, I am terrible at pick-up lines.

    1. Re:Hey, baby by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2

      All your achievements should already be evident with your physical fitness, your credit card, and your social network.

      Ah, I understand: To get laid, I should keep myself fit, get a credit card, and start my own version of facebook. :-)

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  5. Re:Nice job by grcumb · · Score: 2

    His wife must be excited!

    I doubt it. Seriously:

    1. They have sex.
    2. Afterwards, she experiences 'joint pains and extreme fatigue'.
    3. They immediately figure that these symptoms are caused by a virus???

    What kind of lame-ass, geriatric sex do these people have?!?

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  6. Re:Nice job by Darinbob · · Score: 4, Funny

    Add to this all the inconvenience of being followed around all day by researchers documenting her every move, hoping to catch any mating procedures on film.

  7. Re:blood transmittable implies sexually transmitta by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 3, Funny

    What if what really happened is he gave his wife Senegalese crabs?

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  8. Re:Who was having sex with whom again? by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 5, Funny

    Both the doctor and student got the disease from insects in Senegal. The doctor returned home and infected his wife. But, being a grad student, even if he did screw his wife the doctor would still get the credit.

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  9. Uh... by bmo · · Score: 3, Funny

    "If so, it would be the first documented case of sexual transmission of an insect-borne disease. "

    There's a skeeter on my peter, whack it off
    There's another on my brother, whack it off
    There's a dozen on my cousin's
    I can hear the bastards buzzin'
    There's a skeeter on my peter, whack it off
    - John Valby

    Sung by Boy Scouts around campfires everywhere since 1960

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    1. Re:Uh... by Kozz · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hmm. I think you and I must have gone to very different Boy Scout camps. (The difference is probably some kind of lawsuit).

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    2. Re:Uh... by Coren22 · · Score: 2

      You never sang this song?

      Do your balls hang low
      can you swing them too and fro
      can you throw them over your shoulder
      like a continental solder
      do your balls hang low

      Things have changed quite a bit, but being a kid hasn't changed much.

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  10. Re:brian d foy by thegrassyknowl · · Score: 2

    "People I am not: Brian D. Foy, Assistant Professor, Department of Microbiology, College of Veterinary Medicine & Biomedical Sciences, Colorado State University"

    Hmmmmm

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  11. Hokum? by theBully · · Score: 2
    This story is speculative at best. The article itself reads:

    There is no direct evidence that Foy's wife was infected through sexual contact, but the circumstantial evidence is strong.

    Would it be possible that the virus got transmitted by direct contact of open wounds on the two? (Like scratches, sores, etc....). I would not exclude the possibility

    I work in life sciences and I know for a fact that in order to have scientific proof for something like this you would need to have it confirmed in a quite large number of subjects. A single suspected instance of the transmission is far from being a scientific discovery .

    I have to agree though, it makes for a good, attractive title. Coming up next on sciencemag.org: "Sex uncovers wormhole! A scientist finds that after having had sex for 10 hours he traveled backwards in time to find himself at only four minutes after having started....". Stay Tuned.

  12. Re:blood transmittable implies sexually transmitta by kenwd0elq · · Score: 2

    If I'm lucky....

  13. Asked and answered. by Oxford_Comma_Lover · · Score: 4, Informative

    They considered that, but circumstantial evidence pointed to sexual transmission. According to TFA, the virus has to complete a 2-week life cycle within the insect before it can infect the next human; Foy's wife fell ill just 9 days after his return. Thus she did not get it from an insect bite. In addition, the mosquitoes in that region are not known carriers. (Different species.)

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    1. Re:Asked and answered. by fractoid · · Score: 2

      Damn your plausible explanations. :P

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    2. Re:Asked and answered. by juasko · · Score: 3, Informative

      Mosquitos survive winters with -30C degrees. That is why we in early summer have bigger mosquitos than later on in mid summer. But they are not many.

      Spiders the same way, but if a spider is woken up to early in the winter, as with a sudden hot winter in january to be frozen again in january it will not survive. No stored energy. Same thing with flies, big slow ones in spring. Very few though, then their offspring comes to life and are small.

      But to the point, a mosquito can survive that very well. But if that is the likely explanation, I wont even comment on. I guess those who made the report, knows about the possibilities, and taken them into account.

    3. Re:Asked and answered. by Meski · · Score: 2

      This is becoming analogous to the Monty Python coconut script.

  14. Re:blood transmittable implies sexually transmitta by antifoidulus · · Score: 2

    Yes there have. From 'kipedia

    Sexual transmission of HCV is considered to be rare. Studies show the risk of sexual transmission in heterosexual, monogamous relationships is extremely rare or even nil.[22][23] The CDC does recommend the use of condoms between long-term monogamous discordant couples (where one partner is positive and the other is negative).[24] However, because of the high prevalence of hepatitis C, this small risk may translate into a nontrivial number of cases transmitted by sexual routes. Vaginal penetrative sex is believed to have a lower risk of transmission than sexual practices that involve higher levels of trauma to anogenital mucosa (anal penetrative sex, fisting, or use of sex toys).[25]

    The reason it's so rare is it essentially requires broken skin on both partners, and for the virus to find it's way out of the wound on the infected partner into a wound on the other infected partner(or for hetero sex, the infected partner to be a menstruating woman). So yeah, it's rare, but it's certainly not impossible. This is also why it's not really considered an STD, it's PRIMARY infection vector is not sexual contact.

  15. Occam's Razor by Arrepiadd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Sex transmits a disease just like it has been documents to happen in boars." (see TFA)
    vs
    "A mosquito gets in his (most likely) crappy, soft shell backpack in Senegal, stays inside it for two days while crossing a third of the globe, manages to survive the beating while being thrown around in the Senegalese roads and at two or three different airports, survives some cold temperatures in the cargo bay of an airplane (is stuff stored at room temperature or slightly below there?) gets safe and sound to his home and then chooses to infect only the person he had sex with but none of his kids.

    Yes, you're right it sounds much more likely the tiny bug survived all that.