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The Nintendo 3DS, Headaches, and Bad Journalism

brumgrunt writes "A British paper is claiming that the Nintendo 3DS poses some kind of health risk. The claim sounds interesting, until you see how that conclusion was reached. 'On the 6th of April, the paper conducted a scientific experiment in which a 22-year-old member of the staff had his blood pressure and pulse taken after playing the 3DS in different situations – at rest, while walking, or while taking a ride in a car. The Sun came to the startling conclusion that the man’s pulse and blood pressure were higher while walking than while sitting down, yet concluded, apropos of nothing, “Children should not be left to play on it for hours.” The article neglects to point out that a raised blood pressure and pulse is perfectly normal, and you’re as likely to experience such a physical response while walking and reading a book as you are when playing the 3DS.'" Pocket Gamer posted a humorous follow-up, using the Sun's own methods against it.

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  1. Omg..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Please stop calling The Sun a newspaper or it's contents journalism.
    It's stories (when not just crap about celebs) are written so that the brit sheeples can feel 'informed'.
    They believe anything written in there because its the best selling rag and it leaves them a few more brain cells free to update twittle or facebook pages.

    1. Re:Omg..... by The+Grim+Reefer2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Please stop calling The Sun a newspaper or it's contents journalism.
      It's stories (when not just crap about celebs) are written so that the brit sheeples can feel 'informed'.
      They believe anything written in there because its the best selling rag and it leaves them a few more brain cells free to update twittle or facebook pages.

      To be fare, the summary called it "A British paper" and also referred to it as "the paper". I didn't notice any mention of "newspaper".

      Now this line is a little more troubling to me, "On the 6th of April, the paper conducted a scientific experiment"

    2. Re:Omg..... by click2005 · · Score: 2

      Not really, you're able to think for yourself and use long words.

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    3. Re:Omg..... by DrXym · · Score: 2, Funny

      People who say "sheep" / "sheeple" instantly lose whatever point they were trying to make. Think of it like a wooly Godwin's law.

    4. Re:Omg..... by hedwards · · Score: 2

      Not really, however, people who make ad hominem attacks like you do in fact lose instantly.

      Additionally, "sheeple" is a perfectly cromulent malamanteau.

  2. It's the Sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nothing to see here, it's just The Sun, another celebrity and scandal obsessed tabloid paper, full of yellow journalism at its worst.

    1. Re:It's the Sun by slim · · Score: 2

      "Just another" tabloid -- except that it's hugely influential as the biggest selling British newspaper, having almost 50% greater circulation than its nearest competitor, The Mail, and more than 4 times the circulation of the bestselling "proper" paper, the Telegraph.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_the_United_Kingdom_by_circulation

      So, as crappy as it is, it's an opinion-former in the UK, which is why the parties Murdoch likes tend to do well in elections...

  3. and in other news by TheRealQuestor · · Score: 3, Funny

    this just in. climbing stairs will raise your heartbeat and bloodpressure. Also just in. Breathing uses up calories.

  4. Wow, really springing for a huge sample group, huh by elrous0 · · Score: 2

    a 22-year-old member of the staff

    I recently did a similar study, using my girlfriend as my sample, to prove that 100% of humans have a vagina.

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  5. The conclusion was correct by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Look, of course you are "likely to experience such a physical response while walking and reading a book" - because if you think about it, both ALSO involve looking at 3-D objects, just as with the 3DS!!

    So in fact if you are concerned about your child's health, you should in fact make sure that instead of interacting with 3D objects they are safely positioned in front of a flat 2D screen. 3D glasses should be hidden (even the Red-Blue kind) and just to be safe, you should make sire that at least four hours of the day are spent playing 2D platformers.

    If you have any reluctance in following this plan, remember - it's for the children.

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  6. Scientific, my arse. by ledow · · Score: 2

    "On the 6th of April, the paper conducted a scientific experiment"

    No it didn't. There was nothing scientific and any idiot knows that because it has The Sun written across the top in big letters.

    And Nintendo have already complained in the press how much crap all these articles are.

    1. Re:Scientific, my arse. by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 4, Funny

      There was nothing scientific and any idiot knows that because it has The Sun written across the top in big letters.

      If it had been done by the Weekly World News instead of The Sun, the test subject would have been Bat Boy and the conclusion would have been that the 3DS helps Satan in escaping hell to take over South America or somesuch. And it would have been an hilarious read.

  7. Re:Bad health by delinear · · Score: 2

    I think their argument is that, compared to taking exercise, it's your resting heart beat that's elevated while playing the game. I still think the article (and the "newspaper") is utter garbage - at the very least they could have tested a larger sample of people and a larger sample of entertainment devices to give this some meaning. But it's the Sun, they don't care about meaning, they just care about fear mongering the latest must have gadget.

  8. Sensationalism but it gives nintendo a good excuse by grapeape · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That entire piece is crap...anything which raises adrenaline will increase heartbeat and blood pressure. Gaming is an activity that some people really get into so of course its going to have that effect. Show me a gamer playing a fps or racing game that doesn't get higher blood pressure and pulse and I'll show you a gamer who's doing it wrong.

    That said, sadly this is the first generation I have completely skipped a handheld release with no real intention of getting one at all. While I think the 3d thing is interesting and fairly innovative, I've been spoiled by iOS and Android and just cant see paying $40 for a game again. The counter to that is generally an uneducated response that android and ios games lack the depth of the Sony and Nintendo offerings but they are there if you look for them even in the RPG genre that Nintendo is famous for. I really do think Nintendo is going to be a world of hurt when it comes to handhelds, the price model myth has been disproven, look at World of Goo and Plants vs Zombies and its easy to see high quality games can sell and be very lucrative even at a lower price. Never underestimate the power of discreet gaming, you can carry around a phone or handheld as an adult and get in a few minutes of gaming here and there without so much as a glance, but employers tend to frown on adults bringing their DS or PSP to work with them.

  9. Sun Headline today: "Is Britney really a man?" by Fibe-Piper · · Score: 3, Informative

    See my post's title.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/

    Newspaper! Riiiiiiight

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  10. Re:Scientific experiment? by chriseyre2000 · · Score: 2

    Would anyone notice the difference?

  11. Re:Wow, really springing for a huge sample group, by Abstrackt · · Score: 5, Funny

    I recently did a similar study, using my girlfriend as my sample, to prove that 100% of humans have a vagina.

    Fascinating. They also appear to be inflatable.

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  12. Re:Sensationalism but it gives nintendo a good exc by twidarkling · · Score: 2

    If you call Plants vs. Zombies "High Quality," there's no arguing with you. It's fun, but it's a game that would take about a day to program, and then art asset creation takes however long you feel like. It's made by Pop Cap. They thrive on cheap impulse buy games that cost nearly nothing to produce. Plants vs. Zombies is completely undeep, and is basically glorified rock-paper-scissors. World of Goo is a better example, but still is an entire game built around applying the same mechanic in slightly different ways, or padded ways. If you want your argument completely blown out of the water, there's Pilotwings Resort. It's a glorified tech demo, and still has more *actual* depth than 99% of what you'll see on iOS and Android. Multiple vehicles that all act and control completely differently, each with a different set of missions, multiple ranks of missions, and a free-flight mode with hundreds of collectables. It's a game that's easy for anyone to pick up and do decently on, but still with enough depth and precision that you can feel like you're improving if you practice. Am I denying that it's possible to have deep games at cheap price points? No. But games for iOS and Android are pretty much designed around only having those few minutes to play, so they rarely get deep. PSP/3DS games are designed around having a larger chunk of time, not to mention having dedicated controls, so it's possible to do more complex things more easily. The price point is also hampered by the need for physical media since the games are so much larger.

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  13. Doctor! Doctor! by tgibbs · · Score: 2

    I've played it for two or three hours at a stretch (ignoring Nintendo's "our lawyers made us say this" warning to take a break every half hour). I can sort of tell that my eyes are doing something different, probably because of the convergence/focus disparity; it feels a bit like looking at one of those "Magic Eye" pictures, but it certainly doesn't hurt or give me a headache. In any case, there is a control, and you can adjust the 3D effect to whatever level is comfortable, or even none at all (I generally have it at max).

    "Doctor, doctor, it hurts when I do this!"
    "Then don't do that!"