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XXX Goes Live In the Root Servers
An anonymous reader writes that yesterday "IANA added the .XXX Top Level Domain to the root nameservers. While the registry operator Afilias is still in their setup process for ICM registry, the zone is currently propagating. While a number of registrars have already been taking pre-registrations, the actual timeline for the launch has not yet been published."
Yeah, I'm going to pay for a domain that will be blocked in 90% of the world...
"Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem." -- Jefferson
I want to register re.xxx and put cool REstructured eXtended eXecutor scripts there
The only good thing about .xxx domain finally being implemented is that we no longer have to read stories and endure the arguments of those who want to create the domain. I kind of think IANA finally allowed it to be created so they would no longer have to put up with requests. I remember reading stories about it (and why it was a bad idea) as far back as 1997.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
to try to force the porn peddlers into using an .xxx domain name. Yes, they'll get blocked by a huge percentage of the web. But that's for the most part in places they're already not supposed to be like business and school networks. So while they may lose 90% of their coverage area, it won't disconnect them from more than 2% of their customers, the majority of which are hunkered down on their computers at home.
Normally I'm not a "think of the children!" type, but in this particular case, I see it as a net-positive thing. Maybe my opinion would be different if I were in the porn business. But if things come around this way, it will make a LOT of network admins jobs a little bit easier, and will give the people paying the internet bills the service change they want. The vast majority of the public will be either indifferent or will benefit from it, the only losers will be the porn industry, and they actually won't lose that much. The only market they're going to lose is the market that they weren't supposed to be in, that they weren't making very much on anyway. If you want to talk about "market" you have to compare the seller and the buyer, (the porn site and the school for example) and can't be considering the actual audience. (the kids at school, or the worker on lunch break) They're not the customer, they're not the market. This step will help stop the porn industry from making a small amount of additional money off a market that doesn't want to be their customer.
So I don't see this as a bad thing at all.
I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
The whole TLD domain thing is seriously wrong and outdated, I think. I mean take the country codes... they have in many cases nothing to do with the actual country in which the servers are located. For example, "yousend.it" is an italian website?
TLD's are just a form of artificial scarcity. And this is a bad thing.
Why not let us just choose the names we want to choose.
If Pandora's box is destined to be opened, *I* want to be the one to open it.
I can see the reason for the success of that movie:
"I paid to see a porno in a theater, but they screwed up the showing and I got a movie about Vin Diesel skiing and blowing up boats instead! So I paid again to see a later showing, thinking they fixed this problem, but they didn't. I thought that that theater was bad, but they did the same thing at every other theater I went to! Those morons!"
The porn industry could give a shit. Seven people own nearly half of .com names and a bunch of wanna ba .com kings have hands full of .com names. Enough of these guys felt threatened that they paid some no-account porn people to protest. They even paid a homeless guy in San Fransisco to protest. http://rs79.vrx.net/works/photoessays/2011/dot-xxx/
There's no real opposition in pornland. They don't give a shit. It's the guys with ".com portfolios" that were doing this to try to keep .com names valuable.
The whole point of tld expansion was to create new resources and to prevent regulation of extant resources; that is, life doesn't end at .com. Opposition with vested interests not withstanding.
Need Mercedes parts ?
I'm afraid I have some old documentation I need to update to prevent people from going places they shouldn't be going..
'For we walk by faith, not by sight.' II Corinthians 5:7
ICANN doesn't get a cut - and there will be only one registry. ICM, the company that submitted the application. They will be the ones getting very, very rich off XXX. All purchases of XXX domains, including renewals, are via payment to ICM.
Porn is that whichever is clearly obscene. What is obscene has always been hard to get established in an American court. That is why porn often can't be blocked in public places.
BUT now there is a porn domain. Use it and you just labelled yourself as obsene. Making you very easy to block.
Already US senators have discussed, LONG before .xxx was created, laws to force sites to use it AND then laws to enforce blocks. Blocks on everything publicly accesible. Possible because the obscenity would be proven.
There is a reason there are articles in Playboy, Penthouse AND even Hustler. Articles that are often of significantly higher journalistic standards then found in other non-adult magazines. It gave them the defence they were not just porn mags and could therefor not be blocked from distribution.
Most of the people in the know are extremely wary about this. Hopefully it will fizzle out like .mobi and all the other domains but this time, there are puritans in the wings waiting to launch yet another attack on freedom of speech.
Because if you think those that want to censor the web are going to stop at nude people, you are very much mistaken.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
there should be a term for it, because i see this fallacy a lot. "reducto ad grey area"?
anyway, the point is simple: because a grey area exists does not mean we can't define black and white. people are always saying "ooh! ooh! look! a grey area! therefore there is no black and white, good and evil, right and wrong" etc. this is some lame loser teenager bullshit in your thinking
a site that instructs women how to inspect their breasts in the shower for lumps/ breast cancer is NOT pornography
a site that shows a woman being penetrated by two guys and giving a blowjob to a horse IS pornography
and in between exists a grey area, yes. so what?
the existence of that grey area does not nullify or change the fact that black and white are real, nor does it argue anyone should try to stop classifying pornography as pornography. pornography is real, pornography can be defined. the existence of grey areas doesn't change that. got it?
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
As an industry insider I can tell you that this new domain is NOT going over terribly well. The only ones in favour are ICM (the ones taking the money for the new domains) and advertising agencies. The adult industry? Not so much.
At it most basic, it is seen as a money grab. This is clear from how they are going to handle trademark disputes. For a fee, you can remove your trademark from EVER being registered as a .xxx domain. So Disney need not be worried about disney.xxx. As long they pay the fee. How much? They ain't saying (really, I asked at a live forum and the guys in charge refused to answer). But Disney will pay it because it won't be a lot of money (to them) and there are plenty of others who will also pay the fee to keep their name blacklisted (forever for now but of course it is only going to be a matter of time before that comes a yearly fee). That means ICM coffers will get a HUGE boost straight from the start AND they will want to keep that money flowing because money is a drug. The more you get, the more you need.
But there are other issues at work:
As a .xxx domain owner you agree to have your site monitored... for what? Well, child porn is trotted out predictably BUT you have to remember that this is ICM policing the site owners, NOT the police as on ALL other domains. But HOW are they going to monitor?
http://domainincite.com/icm-faces-porn-anger-over-xxx/
I attended this myself and the following is true:
At one point, Liley flatly denied that ICM plans to “spider” .xxx domains to enforce compliance with IFFOR policies, such as the prohibition on meta tags that suggest the presence of child pornography.
Minutes later, a .xxx opponent read aloud from the IFFOR policy (pdf) that says all registrants must consent to “automated monitoring”.
Vaughn refused to answer many questions and weasled his way around others. The porn industry is CLEARLY not in favor of this.
One thing unanswered is how they are going to monitor CLOSED sites. Remember, most porn sites are membership sites and there content is NOT meant to be available to just anyone out there. Is every .xxx site owner going to have to provide ICM with a username and password that allows full access to the site? Who is going to be responsible for breaches where these accounts are lost? Does any other site have to give full access to a private company by default to be allowed on the net?
But should I care
A lot of people, even on slashdot don't like porn and want it to be hidden. Fair enough? No. Not really. If you like freedom of speech and believe me, many do not, then the .XXX domain is the registration of jews.
Godwin? Maybe but its parallels must be found in method rather then is shock effect. How did the nazi's know where to find Jews? Contrary to nazi propoganda they ain't all that easy to spot. It is not like they had it as easy as the US and its prosecuted minorities like blacks and asians. You can just tell a black person just by looking at him/her. Jew? Not so much, unless you believe nazi propoganda.
What allowed the mass murder to happen is the "harmless" registration of religion done long before the true horror of the nazi's became clear.
Yeah yeah, you know. So how does it apply to porn?
Obscenity
What is obscene? The US courts can't tell you AND this has been VERY important in ensuring free speech survives DESPITE being against the law. As long as the courts can't agree on what is obscene, the law cannot be used to ban your material. This is what allowed the porn mags such as Playboy, Penthouse and Hustler to survive countless court battles. Is obscenity forbidden? Yes. Are the mags obscene? Not proven, case dismissed. Why do you think these mags have higher grade journalism then many rags that can be bought from any store? Because it stopped them from being simply labelled as obsene AND banned.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
> the zone is currently propagating
Domain name zones do not propagate, and there is no "delay" in "publishing" zone information.
Domain name information is provided by domain name servers. As soon as the server can provide the data it is considered "published". When people talk about propagation they are mistakenly referring to cached false-positives or false-negatives.
A cached false-positive is when a previous lookup has returned a result that is no longer accurate, but the cache persists in providing that result. Instead of doing a new lookup and finding the --now changed-- data, the old stale data is returned. This is an indication of failure on the part of the domain administrator to reduce the cache time-to-live (TTL) field on the record or the entire Start of Authority for the zone.
A cached false-negative --typically on Microsoft operating systems-- is when a previous lookup has failed to return a response, the system caches that "there is no response." A subsequent query by an application OUGHT to do a DNS query and resolve properly, but the cache instead returns the --now stale-- "there is no response." This is an indication of failure of the operating system authors to have read the relevant RFCs on DNS (or ICMP or ...) and indicates lack of knowledge, a poorly designed product, and years of asshattery.
As soon as the ".XXX" TLD was available on the gTLD servers, it ***was*** live. Here's what affilias has: ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
xxx. 300 IN SOA a0.xxx.afilias-nst.info. noc.afilias-nst.info. 70 7200 3600 3600000 300
You'll note that the TTL is 300, the minimum allowable value (300sec=5min). That means they have PROPERLY set a value so that results are refreshed by those who cache them.
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Ehud Gavron
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