Rumors Pointing to September iPhone 5 Ship Date

Does this one work? by tripleevenfall · 2011-04-20 00:59 · Score: 4, Interesting

Or come with a free case included in the box?

Re:Does this one work? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-04-20 01:02 · Score: 4, Insightful

that does not matter.
what matters is that you will not have the most recent version of the iphone anymore.
you have to buy the new one.
Re:Does this one work? by warp_kez · 2011-04-20 01:03 · Score: 2

I wonder if it comes in white?
Re:Does this one work? by tripleevenfall · 2011-04-20 01:07 · Score: 2

Pff... it never comes in white at first. That's why I'm always having to run out and replace mine a year later, to the get white one.
Re:Does this one work? by Hultis · 2011-04-20 01:34 · Score: 3, Funny

iPhone slogans:

Original: a "revolutionary mobile phone" (actually just what Jobs said, not a slogan)
3G: Twice the speed, half the price.
3GS: The most powerful iPhone yet.
4: This changes everything. Again.

Based on this we extrapolate a few plausible slogans:
5: This changes everything. Again. Again.
5: Twice the cores, twice the price.
5: We don't even need a slogan, you will buy it anyway.
5: Obsolete in three weeks!
5: Three hundred ways to hold it, and they all drop calls!
Re:Does this one work? by Jugalator · 2011-04-20 01:42 · Score: 2

It's because the OP isn't trolling about Linux.

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Re:Does this one work? by kelemvor4 · 2011-04-20 02:20 · Score: 1

There's no use in selling the iPhone 5 (black or white), when the iPhone 4 hasn't been released yet.
Let's do the time warp again!
Re:Does this one work? by eln · 2011-04-20 02:40 · Score: 1

I love this attitude, because it means when the iPhone 5 gets released I'll be able to get an iPhone 4 on the cheap. My iPhone 3G has definitely been showing its age lately, but I've been holding out until the iPhone 5 is released so the iPhone 4 price will drop.
Re:Does this one work? by Candid88 · 2011-04-20 02:56 · Score: 1

It's called a joke, not a troll.
A joke which provides a humorous insight into our modern egocentric consumerist society, aptly aimed at one of the many companies who go to great efforts to encourage the "you're not cool unless you have the latest version" attitude without regard to the psychological or ecological impact.
Re:Does this one work? by Tsingi · 2011-04-20 03:06 · Score: 1

Another troll modded insightful and interesting, I'm getting so sick of this shit. I could understand "funny" but really Slashdot, WTF ?
I suppose if you're an AC you don't see that it's actually the people who read these comments that moderate them, since you don't get the chance to do that.
No one thinks he's a troll but you. So, he isn't.
Re:Does this one work? by easyTree · 2011-04-20 05:54 · Score: 1

There's no use in selling the iPhone 5 (black o white), when the iPhone 4 hasn't been release yet.
Let's do the time warp again!
It's just a jump to the left...

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Re:Does this one work? by tripleevenfall · 2011-04-20 08:30 · Score: 1

I was trying to be funny, not trolling.
You only have a second to think of something if you still want firsties.
Re:Does this one work? by exomondo · 2011-04-20 11:38 · Score: 1

If it were a joke, it would have gotten at least one "Funny" moderation. So it's not a joke. And thus it is a troll, not insightful. QED
Clearly...because moderators are always right...except when they're not...in which case it must be a troll.
Re:Does this one work? by baker_tony · 2011-04-20 13:40 · Score: 1

I love your attitude, I'm going to wait until the iPhone 6 comes out, then iPhone 4's will be cheaper again and I'll be able to go "nah nah" to you!
Re:Does this one work? by Candid88 · 2011-04-21 02:18 · Score: 1

Actually my bad, I thought the GP was a different post.
Still, even this GP is clearly a joke, not a troll. You're right though the moderation was the wrong, maybe the mods were trolling?
Re:Does this one work? by fangorious · 2011-04-21 06:14 · Score: 1

If it were a joke, it would have gotten at least one "Funny" moderation. So it's not a joke. And thus it is a troll, not insightful. QED
Mods tend to give a few non-Funny mods so the poster gains some karma (because Funny mods don't give karma).
Re:Does this one work? by Thing+1 · 2011-04-21 12:46 · Score: 1

People sometimes rewards jokes with other Karma. Why? Because there is truth in humor. Some people may already know all there is to know about the joke and just accept that it's funny; others will be inclined to ask questions after hearing the joke, and so it could be Insightful, or Interesting, etc. Just because it's not funny to you doesn't mean it's a Troll. Trolls present reality in a way that it is not so that you must react to and correct them; this post did not represent reality any differently than it actually exists.

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Quality of Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · 2011-04-20 01:00 · Score: 2, Insightful

Rumors for nerds - stuff that may or may not be true.

Rumors by Spad · 2011-04-20 01:01 · Score: 3, Funny

Originally rumors had stated that the iPhone 5 had already started production back in March

But these new rumors are definitely accurate!

Re:Rumors by Anonymous Coward · 2011-04-20 01:28 · Score: 1

Look at all these rumors surrounding me every day
I just need some time, some time to get away from
From all these rumors, I can't take it no more
My best friend said there's one out now about Steve Jobs and the next iPhone
Re:Rumors by much+noisier · 2011-04-20 01:36 · Score: 1

Sure they are. These rumours are the ones started by Apple ;)

iPhone by webmistressrachel · 2011-04-20 01:05 · Score: 2, Funny

I wonder if you'll be able to ./configure, make, make install programs written on this small computer? That would make it something worth shouting about...

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Re:iPhone by RobotRunAmok · 2011-04-20 01:33 · Score: 2, Insightful

I wonder if you'll be able to ./configure, make, make install programs written on this small computer?
It's a phone, dear. If I wanted to ./configure, make, make install programs, I'd build a small computer and run Linux on it.
...oh, wait, I already did that, over fifteen years ago. Then I got over myself and moved on.
EVERYTHING is or contains a computer today. When a company manufactures a phone and advertises it gives a user the ability to do Linux-y things, it's just their way of trying to get the "geek" buy. Kind of like how, when they make a pink "Hello Kitty" case for it, they are bidding for the tween girl buy. It's all just Marketing; don't let yourself be a victim of it.
People want a phone to make and receive phonecalls, text, answer e-mail, and play Angry Birds. They also want to be made to feel special and part of some elite cadre as well - that's where the Linux-ness and Hello Kitty bits come into it.
Too bad the folks at Droid didn't realize until too late that they could have captured the same "geek" buzz -- and more of it -- more inexpensively by just shipping a bunch of phones with "limited edition" Bobba Fett cases.
Re:iPhone by webmistressrachel · 2011-04-20 01:45 · Score: 1

"and play Angry Birds" - an unforeseen use for a the locked down device they want me to shup up and put up with, which could never have become popular if not for third parties like GameLoft getting their heads around programming Symbian (yuk! but worth it!) and selling the results "back in the day".
Let me introduce another few unforeseen uses for phones - VoIP, laptop tethering, camera phones, and so on.
The age of innovation is over when you can't innovate at home, with nothing but the computer itself. That's my point, but you had to read into my comment a little bit.
I wish Richard Stallman could turn up and defend my corner on this one - locked down computers are always bad for innovation. I like many things about the iPhone, not least the smooth sexy multi-touch, I would have one by now if I could program for it and distribute my stuff without permission from Apple.
Just my two cents.

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Re:iPhone by garaged · 2011-04-20 01:52 · Score: 1

Illegal ? No, voids warranty? Yes
big deal? Absolutly no

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Re:iPhone by webmistressrachel · 2011-04-20 02:06 · Score: 1

Ok fair point, I'm glad it's not illegal. But imagine this scenario:
The phone is destined to break, because of some heat fault in the CPU that exist anyway.
I jailbreak the phone, the phone dies later on from this problem. I'm in no position to flash back to original firmware before sending it off for repair.
Apple say "the phone died because of the jailbreak". That's why one of my rants mentions the right to run my CPU at 100% for 6 months and expect it not to die (unless I don't provide adequate cooling, but that just complicates the point)
That's the basis for me saying that Jailbreak isn't a solution. It's wonderful, and I admire those who can create such a thing, but it doesn't solve the buyer's problem with Apple's policy regarding lockdown.

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Re:iPhone by Overzeetop · 2011-04-20 02:12 · Score: 1

But why would I want to? It's a phone and a computing device with a specific (marginally expandable) use. I can't ./configure, make, make install programs on my rice cooker, but it makes fantastic rice and pretty darned good porridge. That doesn't make it less useful.
If you want a little computer, go get a an OQO, or a computer-like device that lets you customize based on android. If you feel left out because you can't have a cool looking iPhone, well I can't help you there. Don't worry, though, I don't find the current crop of iPhones all that aesthetically pleasing - the previous one's were nicer, but all of them still lack basic notification functionality, and no amount of software can fix that.

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Re:iPhone by uglyduckling · 2011-04-20 02:19 · Score: 2

You're right, but you're also right about the computer in my car, my Blu-ray player, my central heating system... the world was full of Turing-complete computers locked down by the manufacturer well before the iPhone came along, including plenty of consumer devices, and pretty much all mobile/cell phones. The difference is that Apple have made it easy for anyone to write apps using a laptop or desktop computer and get those apps onto their own phone, or sell them to the general public.
Re:iPhone by SethJohnson · 2011-04-20 03:53 · Score: 1

Too bad the folks at Droid didn't realize until too late that they could have captured the same "geek" buzz -- and more of it -- more inexpensively by just shipping a bunch of phones with "limited edition" Bobba Fett cases.
I was 100% with you until you misspelled Boba Fett. Unforgivable.

Seth

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Re:iPhone by jmac_the_man · 2011-04-20 03:58 · Score: 3, Funny

I wish Richard Stallman could turn up and defend my corner on this one...
You probably have a rounded corner. If he showed up, you could be both be sued for violating Apple's design patents. Try using a perfect, 90 degree corner.
Then say "Linux" three times and he'll show up to correct you that it should be "GNU/Linux." That's how you summon him, right?
Re:iPhone by StikyPad · 2011-04-20 04:46 · Score: 1

This is nothing more than a rumor. To my knowledge, there hasn't been a single verified incident of anyone being turned away from warranty coverage because their device was jailbroken.
Besides, you can always have your phone registered for development and do whatever you want, no questions asked. At most it will cost an additional $99... register as a company with a few other people and the price quickly goes down. As a bonus, you might even come up with something worth distributing to other people for fun or profit.

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Re:iPhone by BasilBrush · 2011-04-20 05:00 · Score: 1

The age of innovation is over when you can't innovate at home, with nothing but the computer itself.
Here's what slashdot geeks don't seem to get: The existence of iPhones doesn't stop you buying the kind of mobile general purpose computer you want. So why the hysterics that there are different people with different preferences out there? Is it some kind of RMS led religion?
Re:iPhone by secolactico · 2011-04-20 10:15 · Score: 1

That's why one of my rants mentions the right to run my CPU at 100% for 6 months and expect it not to die (unless I don't provide adequate cooling, but that just complicates the point)
Isn't that a bit unrealistic for a consumer device?

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Re:iPhone by webmistressrachel · 2011-04-20 10:25 · Score: 1

Is it? Maybe it is an exaggeration of the way I use computers; but put it this way, I don't turn them my personal machines off unless I have a good reason to; that includes portables.
I only used that example to illustrate that not all cooked iPhone CPUs will be due to jailbreaking or mis-use - and I don't think using things to their manufactured tolerance the whole of their service life is unrealistic, I'd call it getting value for money.

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Re:iPhone by exomondo · 2011-04-20 11:48 · Score: 1

You're right, but you're also right about the computer in my car, my Blu-ray player, my central heating system... the world was full of Turing-complete computers locked down by the manufacturer
I see your point, but remember those aren't designed to run 3rd party programs like a smartphone is. Sure apple artificially limits their device so the simple answer is 'buy something that fits your needs', there are a lot of other options out there - many that are far superior in terms of hardware and performance.
Re:iPhone by exomondo · 2011-04-20 11:49 · Score: 1

The Jailbreak is not a solution that answers that question. Can I use it to write or download my own programs without missing out on security and stability updates from Apple?
Actually, yes, you can.
Assuming you pay for a developer account and buy a Mac.
Re:iPhone by exomondo · 2011-04-20 12:04 · Score: 1

Here's what slashdot geeks don't seem to get: The existence of iPhones doesn't stop you buying the kind of mobile general purpose computer you want.
I wouldn't have thought slashdot geeks were iphone owners, or people that had no mobile computing device. I would've characterised them as being Android or Maemo users.
Re:iPhone by uglyduckling · 2011-04-20 21:52 · Score: 1

My blu-ray player is, and so is my Wii (I missed that off the list) and most people don't see either of those as a problem.
Re:iPhone by tehcyder · 2011-04-20 23:17 · Score: 1

This is nothing more than a rumor. To my knowledge, there hasn't been a single verified incident of anyone being turned away from warranty coverage because their device was jailbroken.
Besides, you can always have your phone registered for development and do whatever you want, no questions asked. At most it will cost an additional $99... register as a company with a few other people and the price quickly goes down. As a bonus, you might even come up with something worth distributing to other people for fun or profit.
You really do have to admire the lengths Apple fanbois will go to justify any particular policy by Apple.

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Re:iPhone by tehcyder · 2011-04-20 23:20 · Score: 1

Why's this shit modded as insightful? Have Apple secretly purchased slashdot and installed their stormtroopers to vet all posts or something?

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Re:iPhone by AmiMoJo · 2011-04-21 01:19 · Score: 1

Not that easy. You can only install apps from the App Store. Android lets you install them from anywhere, including the SD card, email and random web sites.
So Android apps can be free as in beer to the developer, but iPhone devs have to pay Apple.

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Re:iPhone by StikyPad · 2011-04-21 03:52 · Score: 1

I do. Almost as much as the doublethink and hypocrisy of Android fanboys and Apple haters.

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Quickly! by Sharp-kun · 2011-04-20 01:06 · Score: 1

Keep an eye out in pubs!

Paging Jesse Jackson Jr... by MikeRT · 2011-04-20 01:10 · Score: 4, Insightful

Instead of complaining about the iPad costing a few thousand publishing jobs, why not ask why there are no companies in the US which can do the fabrication (cost-effectively!) on US soil to take over from the Tsunami-damaged areas of Japan...

Re:Paging Jesse Jackson Jr... by AmiMoJo · 2011-04-21 01:10 · Score: 1

You can't just churn out iPhone from any old factory, they have to be tooled up which is a major part of the manufacturing costs. Machines have to be reconfigured, software implemented, staff instructed, quality test procedures put in place and tried out on a sample run etc. Even if a Japanese factory making LCDs is shut down for three months it wouldn't make sense to move it to the US, and chances are the contract is for x number of screens and they can't just say "we are moving to the US permanently now".
That is of course assuming that there is a suitable LCD factory that can be retooled and isn't busy making something else right now. Building one from scratch would take years and years.

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Great news! by drume · 2011-04-20 01:19 · Score: 1

Yipee! I will have money for beer and barbecues this summer!

Read the signs rather than listen to rumours... by Lord_of_the_nerf · 2011-04-20 01:27 · Score: 3, Funny

When the hipsters start buying sleeping bags and everyone in the art department at work applies for leave, it's nearing shipping date.

Re:This is crazy... by alexhs · 2011-04-20 01:38 · Score: 2

This comic from the Oatmeal seems appropriated...

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Re:This is crazy... by Port1080 · 2011-04-20 01:43 · Score: 1

If your cell phone provider is allowing you to re-up your contract sooner than normal (as AT&T did with a lot of 3GS owners when the 4 came out) it's not crazy at all...right now used iPhone 4s are going for around $400-500 on eBay, give or take. They'll probably go down in price somewhat when the 5 comes out, but still, if you can sell your current, used, old phone for $300 or even just $200, that means you're basically upgrading to the newest generation phone for free. Why wouldn't you want to do that?

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Funding Their Own Oppression by Unka+Willbur · 2011-04-20 01:45 · Score: 1

Or, "A Tale of Hi-Tech Hypocrisy"... I love how /.'s editors love to post stories railing against the end of a free Internet and the abuses of tech by authoritarians in western society, yet continually post these infotisements for two of the biggest players in the movement to abuse and restrict technology (AT&T and Apple). What's next? Are we soon supposed to start loving Disney?

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Re:Funding Their Own Oppression by kelemvor4 · 2011-04-20 02:25 · Score: 1

If it will get hits for /. then yes.

Feed Me by kdogg73 · 2011-04-20 01:47 · Score: 1

Aren't Apple rumor posts basically slashdot mods trolling anymore?

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Re:This is crazy... by biglig2 · 2011-04-20 01:48 · Score: 1

Must be nice being the only one in your circle of friends who isn't crazy/stupid/weak.

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Re:This is crazy... by PmanAce · 2011-04-20 01:56 · Score: 1

Lol, I have friends with android, blackberries, wp7 and no cell phones, I wonder how you would label them. Oh and I never used the word stupid...

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Ideal by Overzeetop · 2011-04-20 02:06 · Score: 1

My first AT&T subsidized iPhone was the 4 I got last summer at launch. Since they'll give me a sub'd phone every 18 or so months (I'm eligible in December), this just means less time for me to be _not_ on the cutting edge of the release cycle.

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Devolving Slashdot by Kabloink · 2011-04-20 02:07 · Score: 1

The once proud Slashdot who championed stories on beowulf clusters and kernel optimizations among others has become another Apple rumor site. What's next? Cute kittens on keyboards? What software Jennifer Lopez uses?

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Re:Devolving Slashdot by kikito · 2011-04-20 03:04 · Score: 1

"What software Jennifer Lopez uses?"
The i-me, with the i-myself add-on.
Re:Devolving Slashdot by BasilBrush · 2011-04-20 05:15 · Score: 2

When I started buying computer magazines, they mainly had articles about BASIC programming and 6502 and Z80 assembler. The world moves on.

Wrong question; wrong phone by name_already_taken · 2011-04-20 02:40 · Score: 1

I wonder if you'll be able to ./configure, make, make install programs written on this small computer? That would make it something worth shouting about...

The question you should be asking yourself is, "Why would I buy a product that lacks a feature that I want?"

If you want a cool looking phone, that can play angry birds, and that you can install your own stuff on, get an Android-based phone, not an iPhone.

Cell phones have been small computers for a very long time now, and have all had varying degrees of lockdown.

Heck, I had one of the first phones with a color screen and Verizon forced you to hack into it just to load your own pictures into it.

You want to get worked up about lockdown when there are other non-locked-down choices available? That's just pointless.

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Re:Wrong question; wrong phone by tehcyder · 2011-04-20 23:24 · Score: 1

You want to get worked up about lockdown when there are other non-locked-down choices available? That's just pointless.
And in the same way, why should anyone care about Microsoft's proprietary software and dubious business practises when they can just build their own computers and use Linux?
Oh, wait, that's a pro-MS rather than pro-Apple argument and so it's just a troll/flamebait.

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Lol @ fanboys by matt_lethargic · 2011-04-20 03:14 · Score: 1

Haha I'm glad my life isn't going to end when I realise my iPhone 4 is no longer cool!!!!

Word to the wise! by blind+biker · 2011-04-20 03:46 · Score: 2

Do not do this.

'cause that wouldn't be right.

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I'm in. by Petersko · 2011-04-20 03:52 · Score: 1

I work in a very technical environment, surrounded by, well... geeks. For the past several years I've listened to most of them acquire and then bitch about their various android devices, while simultaneously lauding them for being just so awesome. Busted GPS, Touchwiz problems, crappy interface response (don't worry - the update will fix that!), manufacturers that don't update... it's always something. Except for problems making music apps - failure to do low latency is an OS problem.

In the meantime, my 3gs just quietly keeps working. I got bit by the daylight savings time bug, and it did, in fact, crash once last year, but it's been a very well behaved device in all other respects.

A team member just got a Nexus S, with pure Android. That might work out well. But when the iPhone 5 comes around, I'm in.

Re:I'm in. by NotAGoodNickname · 2011-04-20 09:28 · Score: 1

Plus Apple (and anyone else) gets to track you for free!
Re:I'm in. by tehcyder · 2011-04-21 00:40 · Score: 1

If this was a post about a Win7 phone, everyone would be crying out "MS shill". But because it's pro-Apple, it's OK.
For the record I have an Android phone and tablet (as a customer) and have had no real problems, assuming getting used to a new UI and poor battery life would apply to any smartphone.

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Re:This is crazy... by Mercano · 2011-04-20 05:30 · Score: 1

AT&T didn't let anyone with 3GSs upgrade. You had to have been at least, what was it, either 15 or 18 months into an existing contract to qualify for an early upgrade at the iPhone 4 launch. Given that the 3GS had only been out for 12 months at the time, no dice.

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GENIUS! by arikol · 2011-04-20 05:59 · Score: 1

Apple is obviously amazing!
I mean, how else would it get free publicity for a possible upgrade to almost each object they sell?

Don't get me wrong, I like their hardware and use some of it, but the hardware is NOTHING compared to their marketing... (well, actually their hardware/software solutions ARE extremely good in most cases, but posts in almost all blogs and newspapers over what will probably be an incremental upgrade... madness)

Re:This is crazy... by NotAGoodNickname · 2011-04-20 09:25 · Score: 1

No I'm pretty sure that is original.

The iPhone 5 Rumors by writeguy · 2011-04-24 20:41 · Score: 1

The word on the street is the iphone5 is about to make its appearance in June of 2011, the month all iPhones have made their debut. Details are sketchy, but the iphone 5 is rumored to be the most powerful in the iphone line. True iphone fans are speculating the design of the iphone 5 will be all new and improved with added enhancements and the already installed good stuff tweaked for improved usage. The big issue for iPhoners is the antennae problem in the iPhone 4. To some it was an abdominal mistake that Apple will never be able to make up for no matter how high profile the iPhone 5 becomes. Returning to a previous antennae design is the same as admitting failure to some and that is unacceptable to them. While everyone, even Apple, admit there are flaws with the iPhone 4 antennae, it is a technology that might need more time to be redefined and fine tuned before it is working at the level it should and everyone, including Apple, expects it would. Article Writing Service

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