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Robot Throws First Pitch At Phillies Game

RedEaredSlider writes "The first ball at the Phillies-Brewers game will get thrown by a robot — but Roy Halladay's job is still safe. As part of an outreach program and the Phillies' 'Science Day At The Ballpark,' the University of Pennsylvania's School of Engineering and Applied Science is showcasing a robot made from a Segway and featuring an arm that acts more like a human throwing than an ordinary pitching machine. A pitching machine functions more like a gun, firing a baseball in what amounts to a straight line. But the robot has an armature connected to a hand that was specifically designed for throwing. Another thing the robot can do is identify the strike zone."

92 comments

  1. Hrmmm... by mirix · · Score: 4, Funny

    baseball

    robot

    not Japan

    Interesting...

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    1. Re:Hrmmm... by donotlizard · · Score: 1

      Booing a robot is so abstract.

    2. Re:Hrmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Time to put on the retro thick eyeglasses (big black frames), go to that game and proclaim, "I was there booing robots pitching BEFORE it became mainstream!" :)

    3. Re:Hrmmm... by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 2

      The Twilight Zone did it back in 1960.

    4. Re:Hrmmm... by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Why exactly do we need an outreach program for robots?

      Are they feeling alienated or excluded from general society in some way?

      If so, might I suggest that instead of trying to make them smarter and follow the 3 laws of robotics, or something like them, we pack C4 around the CPU of each robot so when they go berserk, we can remotely destroy their CPU.

      I hope this will help put down the coming robot revolt.

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    5. Re:Hrmmm... by homejapan · · Score: 1

      baseball

      robot

      not Japan

      Interesting...

      Considering that the "robots = Japan" meme is bogus, there's no surprise at all.

    6. Re:Hrmmm... by KillAllNazis · · Score: 1

      Sudden increase in roadside IEDs, mailbombs...

    7. Re:Hrmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was surprised the Phillies fans didn't follow the robot into the parking lot after the game and beat it to pieces.

    8. Re:Hrmmm... by Phoghat · · Score: 1

      But "The Twilight Zone" has done pretty much EVERYTHING before. Robot pitchers, robot boxers, robot nannies, etc. ad infinitum.

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  2. Pitching machine by vawwyakr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So traditional pitching machines that have thrown balls just fine and are more efficient at doing so don't count? The funny thing is this is still just a purpose built arm that throws a ball sort of like a human, it can't do anything useful or anything else at all for that matter. Call me when a robot can walk out on the field and throw a ball after it finished driving itself to the ball park.

    1. Re:Pitching machine by nschubach · · Score: 1

      So traditional pitching machines that have thrown balls just fine and are more efficient at doing so don't count?

      My thoughts exactly...

      I went to the article expecting to see a robot walk out on the field and/or standing on it's own and throw a pitch to the strike zone.

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    2. Re:Pitching machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't it possible that dexterity in robotic limbs, and range and fluidity of motion, might be more useful than ambulation? It seems like the quest for a bipedal robot is a waste of time and an exercise in vanity. Wheel/tread based systems have many less points of failure, require less resources to maintain balance, and are generally more stable. They can also be designed to navigate obstacles with minimal energy for balance. Hands, however, unlike legs, allow the robot to interact with the world in a useful manner. Unless you want to kick a soccer ball around with it, robots do not need to walk.

    3. Re:Pitching machine by vawwyakr · · Score: 1

      If this thing could do anything other than throw a ball...like say write with a pencil or type on a keyboard then I would say this thing has a point.

    4. Re:Pitching machine by nschubach · · Score: 1

      Wheel/tread based systems have many less points of failure, require less resources to maintain balance, and are generally more stable. They can also be designed to navigate obstacles with minimal energy for balance.

      Or throw a ball across the plate. As you stated, wheels can be far less prone to failure and they've been using wheels to propel balls across plates for years.

      This robot was clearly designed to throw balls (with a Lacrosse like attachment on the end of the arm... or what were those toys that had the long scoop like throwing tool with a ball?), but it does it in the most inefficient way. It has no hands.

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    5. Re:Pitching machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree.

      Fuck them for making people think "Hey cool, that robot threw a ball. Wonder if we could make an actual robot that can walk out and pitch. Let's fund it!"

      Instead they should have used the funding they had to make a pitching robot to make a walking, talking, dancing, trash talking, pitching robot. Fuck them for trying to get more people interested in robots and also science so that they can get funding to make the robot that they originally should've made with the lack of funding they currently have.

    6. Re:Pitching machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why on earth does it need to be built on a Segway if it has a third wheel?

    7. Re:Pitching machine by NekSnappa · · Score: 1

      It was actually more like a Jai-alai glove.

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    8. Re:Pitching machine by nschubach · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I couldn't remember the name of that sport and the quick search I did didn't help me out.

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    9. Re:Pitching machine by An+ominous+Cow+art · · Score: 1

      I think it's be interesting if the machine could throw various types of pitches - sliders, curveballs,knuckleballs, etc. That would probably require a more handlike gripper.

    10. Re:Pitching machine by treeves · · Score: 1

      To make it more lame, of course.

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    11. Re:Pitching machine by sjames · · Score: 1

      They don't really, no. They cannot throw a breaking ball. Practice with the machine until you can hit a home run with every single ball and then go face a real pitcher. He will embarrass you every time. He'll do that through a combination of aerodynamic effects from spinning the ball and by tricking you into thinking he threw it faster or slower than he actually did. A proper arm robot has some chance of managing that.

      Of course, the robot still won't be able to choose pitches strategically based on sizing up the batter.

    12. Re:Pitching machine by sjames · · Score: 1

      replying to self, I just watched the video, and that robot will never strike anyone out.

      Oh well.

  3. No, make robot football players. by olsmeister · · Score: 1

    That way, we might get to see a few NFL games this fall. (and not one that looks like that dorky Fox NFL robot)

    1. Re:No, make robot football players. by antifoidulus · · Score: 1

      We already have robots that can play football

  4. Prior art? by Formalin · · Score: 1

    First thing that came to mind: Base Wars

    (I thought it was a horrible game, but I had a friend that played it far too much)

    Set in a 24th century wherein baseball team owners have grown tired of paying outrageous player salaries, they decide to replace their rosters with robots.

    Not a bad idea, really...

  5. It throws like a girl... by Doogman · · Score: 1
    1. Re:It throws like a girl... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A colossal disappointment. The robot is designed only to throw overhead. There isn't even any horizontal rotational component (like how a real pitcher's trunk would twist) and it still couldn't even get the ball over the plate.

      The crowd would've got more kicks if the ball had been tossed(successfully over the plate, I may add) by a catapult made from 2x4's, lawnmower wheels, and a couple springs.

      That "engineering" team should hang their heads in disgrace for using a segway, and then commit seppuku for using Steve Jobs' arm for their kinematic model.

    2. Re:It throws like a girl... by AndersOSU · · Score: 2

      Philadelphia fans ...
      They boo Santa Claus

      But I'll admit, that was a pretty sad pitch.

      Plus high standards at Citizen's Bank Park

    3. Re:It throws like a girl... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read the whole story in your link and tell me you would be all giddy to see santa in that situation. The santa that was supposed to be there got held up and they pulled a random 20-year-old dude out of the crowd with a red corduroy suit on. He wasn't even fat. Naturally he was pelted with snowballs.

      43 years ago, btw.

    4. Re:It throws like a girl... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's an insult to girls around the planets.

      Tell me, is it normal that the "first pitch" is something showy like this?
      If so, is it commonly done this pathetic? This is an honest question, I've never attended or even seen a game so I really wouldn't know.

      Gotta hand it to the robot operator though. Knowing how that thing burps forth a ball and still going out on central stage in a stadium packed with people... man you either have no sense or some serious balls.

    5. Re:It throws like a girl... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Robota forgot to ask for the strike zone not to be in shot like the great Barack Hussein Obama did

  6. Wow, somebody finally found a use for a Segway! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Besides the mall cops and urban postal workers, that is.

    Weren't they supposed to change the world? I guess they did...now.

    1. Re:Wow, somebody finally found a use for a Segway! by Miseph · · Score: 1

      And Gob Bluth.

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  7. pitching line by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It had a good day

    33 blerns/0.03 blerns per blern/0.345 xBlerns in 8.3 blerns pitched

  8. Video by buttersnout · · Score: 1, Informative
    1. Re:Video by buttersnout · · Score: 1

      Here's another link. It was booed and it appears the news people hate it http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/video?id=8085002

  9. Oh, great. by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now we're replacing politicians with soulless automatons?

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    1. Re:Oh, great. by MokuMokuRyoushi · · Score: 2

      Now we're replacing soulless automatons with soulless automatons?

      FTFY.

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    2. Re:Oh, great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm glad you clarified that. I wouldn't have gotten the joke otherwise.

    3. Re:Oh, great. by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      I was about to make some joke about how the robot did a better job than Barack Obama did last year, but it turned out to not be the case. Obama's pitch wasn't anywhere near the strike-zone, but at least he made it to the plate. Although when it comes to throwing out the first pitch, Barack Obama is not George W. Bush. I did not vote for either one of them, just giving credit where credit is due.

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    4. Re:Oh, great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      THAT'S THE JOKE

    5. Re:Oh, great. by treeves · · Score: 1

      But robots are not greedy, deceptive, addiction-prone and power-hungry. Thus it is a major upgrade.

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    6. Re:Oh, great. by treeves · · Score: 1

      Couldn't have been worse than when we went bowling somewhere in the midwest during his election campaign. I think he bowled a game in the 50s or 60s. It's hard to do that badly.

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    7. Re:Oh, great. by treeves · · Score: 1

      "we went bowling" should have been "he went bowling".

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  10. Oh crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Skynet's taking over already!

  11. like a human ? you mean like a trebuchet ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This does not attempt to throw like a human. Watch the video.

    Science day yields a trebuchet with a remote control.

    1. Re:like a human ? you mean like a trebuchet ? by Dominare · · Score: 1

      Yes, but it still threw a slightly better pitch than Mariah Carey, so that was alright.

    2. Re:like a human ? you mean like a trebuchet ? by Vectronic · · Score: 1

      Slightly indeed... although the Mariah Carey is a bit more advanced, since it only needs to be guided by men in giant costumes, not directly controlled.

  12. Not the same. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So traditional pitching machines that have thrown balls just fine and are more efficient at doing so don't count?

    No, they don't. This is closer to a human pitcher if you understand the concept of sport beyond efficiency. I.e., what can the player discern about the the coming pitch by observing the pitcher's form? How can the pitcher alter his form to mask the nature of his pitch? Etc.

  13. The Replicants by cosm · · Score: 1

    Next I hope they replace the players with robots. And then they could replace the umpires as well. And then they could replace the sportscasters. I am pretty sure all of those jobs could be performed by autonomous machines.

    Then replace the audience with robots.

    And then nuke the whole ensemble from orbit, and our baseball problem will be solved!

    Oh..whats that you say...it wasn't a problem...?...I just really despise this sport. I am pretty sure you could write baseball AI in a couple lines.

    while(FansNotBored)
    {
    If (IHaveBall)
    ThrowBall();
    else
    StandStill();
    }

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    1. Re:The Replicants by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If (IHaveBall)
      ThrowBall();

      Not really a good strategy if you're the catcher and somebody's trying to steal home.

    2. Re:The Replicants by by+(1706743) · · Score: 1

      ...I just really despise this sport. I am pretty sure you could write baseball AI in a couple lines. while(FansNotBored)
      {
      If (IHaveBall)
      ThrowBall();
      else
      StandStill();
      }

      If baseball is so easy, then why are you posting on /. instead of, oh I don't know, raking in millions of dollars with the Yankees?

      And in case you claim that human's aren't fast enough to efficiently execute your algorithm, I think that's rubbish: Evaluating whether or not the fans are bored can be easily checked by just having your coach yell at you (a callback method, if you will...nyuk nyuk). Evaluating whether or not you have the ball is trivial. Throwing the ball takes no arguments, and I assume you're a sophisticated enough coder to avoid excessive globals. Assuming you're decently coordinated, you should be able to throw the ball several hundred feet which, if you're playing infield, shouldn't be a problem. And standing still is, of course, trivial.

      Just because you don't understand the game doesn't make it trivial. I realize your comment was somewhat in jest, but I find such animosity towards something which causes you no harm rather, well, silly (kind of like this reply). I mean, to the untrained eye, a programmer does the following:

      while (atWork) {
      if (butt_itches) scratchIt();
      if (now() - most_recent_burp > fifteen_minutes) drinkSoda();
      swearAtComputer();
      if (feelingUnderweight) orderPizza();
      }

    3. Re:The Replicants by PPH · · Score: 1

      You'll need to add an interrupt handler to call ScratchMyBalls() occasionally or this won't replace human pitchers.

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    4. Re:The Replicants by cosm · · Score: 2

      Twas satire, but your contention raises valid points. It is a very difficult sport, and I apologize if I offended any players. Those offended will have plenty of time to reflect over these comments during each inning and between lulls in the action.

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    5. Re:The Replicants by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      You forgot const Boolean FansNotBored=false;
      while !(*FansNotBuzzed)
      {servebeer(FansNotBuzzed);
      }

  14. Youtube link by zanian · · Score: 4, Informative

    video was unavailable. This worked though:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShId-vZ-ZEY

    1. Re:Youtube link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is no one going to mention how bad of a job it did? They have all the time in the world to get it right and only need 60 ft to test with. Very embarrassing for the Penn engineering team.

    2. Re:Youtube link by moonbender · · Score: 1

      Well that was hopefully the lamest thing I'll see all day.

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    3. Re:Youtube link by zanian · · Score: 1

      Well that was hopefully the lamest thing I'll see all day.

      ya, I hesitated posting the link.

  15. Blernsball by uofitorn · · Score: 1

    Boring? Baseball wasn't... hmm, so they finally jazzed it up? Multiball! http://theinfosphere.org/Blernsball

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    1. Re:Blernsball by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BENDER
      Clem Johnson? That skin bag wouldn't have lasted one pitch in the old Robot Leagues! Now Wireless Joe Jackson, there was a blern hitting machine!

      LEELA
      Exactly! He was a machine designed to hit blerns! I mean, come on, Wireless Joe was nothing but a programmable bat on wheels.

      BENDER
      Oh, and I suppose Pitchomat 5000 was just a modified howitzer?

  16. the 3rd wheel? by societyofrobots · · Score: 1

    I like how they used a Segway, then added a 3rd wheel to it.

    1. Re:the 3rd wheel? by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      In the Ivy League, they call the training wheel "daddy".

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  17. Identify the strike zone? by imadork · · Score: 1

    That makes him better than all the Mets human pitchers. They should sign him!

    - sad Mets fan

    1. Re:Identify the strike zone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That makes him better than all the Mets human pitchers. They should sign him!

      - sad Mets fan

      Gotta wonder - how many of those machines could Oliver Perez pay for?

    2. Re:Identify the strike zone? by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

      Fellow sad Mets fan.

      I was at the Thursday double-header the other week and was highly amused by the fan attempting to start a "Bernie Madoff" chant.

      Maybe the Wilpons will be forced to sell...

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  18. The Doc by SlashJoel · · Score: 1

    Seriously, though...Roy Halladay is a machine!

    1. Re:The Doc by Krau+Ming · · Score: 1

      but he has flesh and blood over top of the robot skeleton...that's more like a terminator...

  19. Story/Video was better yesterday by jeko · · Score: 1

    "Cannon throws first pitch at game; Catcher still in critical condition."

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  20. Hmmm! by b4upoo · · Score: 3

    Way back in 1959 I worked as a teen in a batting cage. The machines actually did throw much as a human does with an elbow and forearm type of mechanism. It was very realistic as no two balls would ever leave the gutter shaped hand the same way due to starting with the balls laces in different positions. So you could get dusted off or even hit by a ball and curves and balls slightly high or low were also thrown. We had three machines. One was little league speed. One for minor league and the final machine was set up to act like a pro pitcher in the world series. Actually I believe that machine was throwing just a bit faster than any pro pitcher could throw although it was supposedly identical to a hot, fast ball. That machine was actually a bit frightening. A mistake in that cage just might get you hurt. The New York Yankees team members used to drop by and smack balls around. They really do hit balls further than normal people can. I know as I was the kid that had to pick up the balls and we had a full size ball field to cover. At night it took some skill not to be slaughtered by a line drive while gathering balls. Keep in mind that there were three batters firing at me. Those days were pre OSHA and I suppose I was taking on a serious risk. Life was different back then.

  21. Bender by residieu · · Score: 1

    Oh, and I suppose pitch-o-mat 5000 was just a modified howitzer.

  22. Ran out of time? by pz · · Score: 1

    It's great that the Phillies sponsored a Science Day at the ballpark.

    And the robot is a pretty cool part of that -- but given that the pitch didn't get even close to being over the plate, I wonder if the students working on the project ran out of time to get things working well for the demo?

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    1. Re:Ran out of time? by Beezlebub33 · · Score: 1

      No, the pitch could have been much, much faster. If they had a real catcher there, it would have made sense for them to send one in there pretty fast. But they had the stupid mascot there, who can't see very well, and so had to dial it down. See discussion at PCMag. There are numerous arm pitching machines that can throw ~100 mpg, though not as many as the wheel-based ones.

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  23. They would be better utilized as umpires by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Baseball is losing its fan base for many reasons. One being that the strike zone is not called according to the rule book, but according to the whims of the umpires.

    Baseball also needs a pitch clock and instant replay. Too many calls at first and second base(player off the bag turning a double play) are wrong.

  24. What?!?! by Troke · · Score: 1

    Now we allow them to throw projectiles?!?! Looks like I'll be purchasing my EMP weapon earlier than I thought.

  25. and so it begins by TheRealQuestor · · Score: 1

    1st they learn to toss a ball, next thing you know they are tossing nukes. This can not end well.

  26. Re:ot.. NEED AVISE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rape him

  27. Pfffft by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    throws like a girl robot

  28. Sure, but... by Digital+Vomit · · Score: 1

    Robot Throws First Pitch At Phillies Game

    Sure, but can it love?

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  29. check this out instead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The throw motion of this robot is ridiculously disappointing. At the very least, it should at least move the base at a higher speed like this japanese robot:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP4ZUCt5WvA

  30. Obligatory Geoff by ewe2 · · Score: 1

    Balls!

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  31. Re:ot.. NEED AVISE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Periods are technology?

  32. Am I... by keith_nt4 · · Score: 1

    the only one who only thought of the "modified howitzer" line in the one futurama episode?

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  33. You don't have ball throwing machines? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

    The local cricket club has a machine for pitching cricket balls. You drop a ball in a hole at the back and it flies out a hole on the other side. I assume it gets squished between two rotating wheels. Don't they use these in base ball?

    1. Re:You don't have ball throwing machines? by kannibal_klown · · Score: 1

      The local cricket club has a machine for pitching cricket balls. You drop a ball in a hole at the back and it flies out a hole on the other side. I assume it gets squished between two rotating wheels. Don't they use these in base ball?

      We do, but as mentioned in the summary this was supposedly more like an arm throwing a ball that a gun-type device firing a ball.

      Same result, but 2 different ways going about it.

      The gun-type device (that we use for batting practice) is probably more efficient and easier to fix / maintain.

      This is closer to what a thrown ball behaves and I guess serves as a decent little experiment in trying to replicate human actions in similar ways. The wind-up, the pitch, trying to hit the strike zone, etc. In the end it's not *that* fascinating, but it's still "news for nerds."

      Next stop: SkyNet and a bunch of Terminators running around throwing baseballs.

    2. Re:You don't have ball throwing machines? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Cricket balls would do more damage ;)

  34. I guess... by CTU · · Score: 1

    I have been playing to much portal 2 as when I first read the summery I read "Applied Science" as "Aperture Science"
    but the idea of using a robot was interesting...how soon till we have a robot baseball league?

  35. Meh by Gerocrack · · Score: 1

    Now, if the title was "Robot Throws First PUNCH At Phillies Game", we'd have a real story on our hands.

  36. Dalek Baseball by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was sleepy when I saw this on TV news this morning and for a minute it looked like a Dalek throwing the ball to the Philly Phanatic.

  37. Meh by sevenbit · · Score: 1

    Cool