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NASA Fires Up Jet Fuel That Tastes Like Chicken
coondoggie writes "It may never make it into everyday jet-fighter use, but NASA is checking out biofuel made from chicken and beef fat. The chicken fat fuel, known as Hydrotreated Renewable Jet Fuel, was burned in the engine of a DC-8 at NASA's Dryden Flight Research Center as part of its Alternative Aviation Fuels Experiment, which is looking at developing all manner of biofuel alternatives to traditional Jet Propellant 8. The DC-8 is used as a test vehicle because its engine operations are well-documented and well-understood, NASA says."
I am disappointed that NASA engineers could not come up with a way to use the acronyms CLUCK and MOO.
it's on the orders of Xenu.
Biofuel, just one more thing that tastes like chicken.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Is it because this fuel packs more bang for the buck than traditional one, or is it because everyone wants to "feel" being green, even when trying to fly to other planets (and using all of 0.0000001% of world's "non-green" emissions of "whatever")? ;)
Just curious,
Paul B.
checking out biofuel made from chicken and beef fat.
I love the smell of chicken and beef fat in the morning . . . it's the smell of victory!
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I'll be kindof surprised if this biofuel can provide the same amount of amount of energy as an equivalent amount of fossil fuel. I think the idea is more along the lines of research: You do not necessarily know what will work, so try many different things. Take what seems to work, and then allow them to play together! Each area takes a common standard, with built-in flexibility, and comes up with their local fuel variant that works best where they are, but can still play with vehicles made somewhere else. It may be a bit of a dream (or not), so you need research!
If it burned human fat Jenny Craig Airlines with autoliposucting seats could have great rates and you get to your destination 50 lbs lighter!
How can chicken fat be a viable renewable fuel? The energy has to come from somewhere. Corn can be turned into biofuel, but can also be fed to chickens. I can't imagine turning corn into chicken, and then into biofuel is a better way. Not in the least because of the fate of chickens.
Folkes, just because something from nature can be turned into a combustive substance does not mean it is renewable or green.
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Next you'll be saying crude oil "tastes like dinosaurs" because it's made from that.
> The DC-8 is used as a test vehicle because its engine operations are well-documented and well-understood, NASA says.
Does that mean engine operations for other jets are *not* well-documented and/or well-understood? That would be... troubling.
What a depressingly stupid machine.
... oh wait.
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Don't know about taste, but if you ever trailed old busted Mercedes diesel modified to burn used cooking oil (especially on the Berkeley-SF corridor), you know the abomination.
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It tastes like chicken... but does it smell like fish?
Train combustion engines to think of stuff that tastes like chicken as fuel. What could possibly go wrong?
So, they've decided to do to chicken what they've done for corn. Make it much more expensive than it currently is. Why do they feel the need to take inexpensive food and convert it to inefficient fuel? Corn was cheap and fed immeasurable numbers of poor people around the world, until they decided to inefficiently convert it to ethanol. Now they are going to take on the meat side of food production, and force the prices up there too. I guess they feel that there aren't enough starving people in the world yet.
All for the sake of "global warming", no wait, it's now "climate change", or whatever they've changed it to now. I still don't understand why burning 6+ gallons of ethanol is so much better for the climate than 1 gallon of gas. But I guess the subsidys buy plenty of votes, which is apparently the most important thing.
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For years I have been reading that meat production is one of the major causes of the greenhouse effect (not talked about much, because it's politically easier to tax car drivers and industry than subsidised farmers).
What exactly is the point of using that production for fuel? Would it not be easier to simply reduce the chicken production instead? Or find a way to make turn other waste into fuel. Actually, if we could turn red tape into fuel we could probably stop drilling..
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For years I have been reading that meat production is one of the major causes of the greenhouse effect (not talked about much, because it's politically easier to tax car drivers and industry than subsidised farmers).
AFAIK biofuel is usually made of plants, so what does processing it through a chicken first add? Egg yoke? Would it not be easier to simply reduce the chicken production instead?
Actually, here is an idea: if we could turn red tape into fuel we could probably stop drilling altogether..
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This is old news, I have already seen that on Chicken Run.
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Neither chicken nor beef production are 'green' or 'eco friendly'. They both require huge inputs of energy and water to get out a given quantity of calories, compared to plant foods. Human beings are not supposed to eat meat, eggs, or cows' milk.
The fact that the idiots at NASA can't even begin to question 'what everyone else is doing' tells you how intelligent they are - not very.
They are even suggesting that long haul space flights have animals on board 'for meat'. Yeah, like that's a really efficient way of getting calories while in space...
Plainly bullshit, humans are omnivores and meat and eggs and milk are essential for our health, but at the same time vegetables are also.
Since they don't like to use animal products, will that mean they'd have to wait for the next flight?
Instead of growing vegetables like Soy and Corn to get the oil, which can then trivially be turned into something akin to jet fuel, we're going to grow the vegetables, feed them to chickens first, and then kill the chickens and use their fat to make jet fuel?
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but does it smell like fish?
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Is it because this fuel packs more bang for the buck than traditional one, or is it because everyone wants to "feel" being green, even when trying to fly to other planets (and using all of 0.0000001% of world's "non-green" emissions of "whatever")? ;)
Just curious,
Paul B.
Don't you want your rocket to be finger lickin' good?
I8-D
OMG! Gonzo is on NASA's board and he is trying to get back to his home planet. - reference: Muppets From Space.
In Fight Club, they made soap from human fat.
But fat can also be made into bio-diesel with the addition of lye and methanol. (Lye is supposedly what Brad Pitt dropped onto Ed Norton's hand to make it burn).
So I'm assuming that they can collect all the waste product that goes into processed chicken plants (that's a lot, since the USA processes about 100 million chickens per day), add lye and methanol to the mix, and then process it further into some form of Kerosene, as that's what turbines (aka jet engines) tend to burn, although it could also be methane.
But if it was Methane, they could get it easier from Pig shit than from chicken fat, so I'm betting they found a way to "crack" the biodiesel into Kerosene.
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Did they remember to thaw the chicken this time?
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Powering jets with chickens... I don't want to alert the irony police or anything but that's gotta be ironical!
Xenu is working for NASA now?
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So the fucking headline says jet fuel that tastes like chicken, but it doesn't taste like chicken at all. Bunch of moronic neckbeards around here.
jet propelled fries with that?
Alternative Avian Fuel Experiment, amirite?
Well how else are they going to win a tank of gas?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvyOsYjWJlA
Does NASA have a Halal/Kosher bio-fuel requirement?
I heard it is lead by a Colonel Sanders!
Sure enough, the cow costume was hanging up next to the superhero outfit and sailors uniform. (S,Spud)
Surprised no one has seen the real use of this...
How else would a space colony supply itself with fuel for either a return flight, or a "second leg" to a further destination? Well, if such excursions are infrequent relative to the population, it makes sense that a chicken-to-rocket-fuel system could supply the necessary fuel...I'm guessing it may be more productive to try to raise chickens in space compared to try drilling for oil (not to mention the dual benefit getting usable food). If you have a few thousand people on some lunar colony eating chicken as a primary protein source, I could see that amounting to some serious fuel.
Why not just use the spent oil the chickens were deep fried in? We probably have enough of that to fly to the moon and back several times.