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NASA Fires Up Jet Fuel That Tastes Like Chicken
coondoggie writes "It may never make it into everyday jet-fighter use, but NASA is checking out biofuel made from chicken and beef fat. The chicken fat fuel, known as Hydrotreated Renewable Jet Fuel, was burned in the engine of a DC-8 at NASA's Dryden Flight Research Center as part of its Alternative Aviation Fuels Experiment, which is looking at developing all manner of biofuel alternatives to traditional Jet Propellant 8. The DC-8 is used as a test vehicle because its engine operations are well-documented and well-understood, NASA says."
I am disappointed that NASA engineers could not come up with a way to use the acronyms CLUCK and MOO.
it's on the orders of Xenu.
Biofuel, just one more thing that tastes like chicken.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Is it because this fuel packs more bang for the buck than traditional one, or is it because everyone wants to "feel" being green, even when trying to fly to other planets (and using all of 0.0000001% of world's "non-green" emissions of "whatever")? ;)
Just curious,
Paul B.
checking out biofuel made from chicken and beef fat.
I love the smell of chicken and beef fat in the morning . . . it's the smell of victory!
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I'll be kindof surprised if this biofuel can provide the same amount of amount of energy as an equivalent amount of fossil fuel. I think the idea is more along the lines of research: You do not necessarily know what will work, so try many different things. Take what seems to work, and then allow them to play together! Each area takes a common standard, with built-in flexibility, and comes up with their local fuel variant that works best where they are, but can still play with vehicles made somewhere else. It may be a bit of a dream (or not), so you need research!
If it burned human fat Jenny Craig Airlines with autoliposucting seats could have great rates and you get to your destination 50 lbs lighter!
How can chicken fat be a viable renewable fuel? The energy has to come from somewhere. Corn can be turned into biofuel, but can also be fed to chickens. I can't imagine turning corn into chicken, and then into biofuel is a better way. Not in the least because of the fate of chickens.
Folkes, just because something from nature can be turned into a combustive substance does not mean it is renewable or green.
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> The DC-8 is used as a test vehicle because its engine operations are well-documented and well-understood, NASA says.
Does that mean engine operations for other jets are *not* well-documented and/or well-understood? That would be... troubling.
What a depressingly stupid machine.
... oh wait.
"I'm taking this loop off." - Jack O'Neill
Don't know about taste, but if you ever trailed old busted Mercedes diesel modified to burn used cooking oil (especially on the Berkeley-SF corridor), you know the abomination.
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Train combustion engines to think of stuff that tastes like chicken as fuel. What could possibly go wrong?
So, they've decided to do to chicken what they've done for corn. Make it much more expensive than it currently is. Why do they feel the need to take inexpensive food and convert it to inefficient fuel? Corn was cheap and fed immeasurable numbers of poor people around the world, until they decided to inefficiently convert it to ethanol. Now they are going to take on the meat side of food production, and force the prices up there too. I guess they feel that there aren't enough starving people in the world yet.
All for the sake of "global warming", no wait, it's now "climate change", or whatever they've changed it to now. I still don't understand why burning 6+ gallons of ethanol is so much better for the climate than 1 gallon of gas. But I guess the subsidys buy plenty of votes, which is apparently the most important thing.
Who would win this election: Andrew Weiner vs Andrew Weiner's weiner.
For years I have been reading that meat production is one of the major causes of the greenhouse effect (not talked about much, because it's politically easier to tax car drivers and industry than subsidised farmers).
What exactly is the point of using that production for fuel? Would it not be easier to simply reduce the chicken production instead? Or find a way to make turn other waste into fuel. Actually, if we could turn red tape into fuel we could probably stop drilling..
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This is old news, I have already seen that on Chicken Run.
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Neither chicken nor beef production are 'green' or 'eco friendly'. They both require huge inputs of energy and water to get out a given quantity of calories, compared to plant foods. Human beings are not supposed to eat meat, eggs, or cows' milk.
The fact that the idiots at NASA can't even begin to question 'what everyone else is doing' tells you how intelligent they are - not very.
They are even suggesting that long haul space flights have animals on board 'for meat'. Yeah, like that's a really efficient way of getting calories while in space...
Plainly bullshit, humans are omnivores and meat and eggs and milk are essential for our health, but at the same time vegetables are also.
Instead of growing vegetables like Soy and Corn to get the oil, which can then trivially be turned into something akin to jet fuel, we're going to grow the vegetables, feed them to chickens first, and then kill the chickens and use their fat to make jet fuel?
Do you really think that a recommendation by an illiterate is going to make anyone more likely to buy your product? Oh well, another host goes into the hosts file so I don't accidentally buy anything from them ever.
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If you believe that petroleum oil is from dinosaurs, then they're already using animal products. I can't tell you how many vegetarians/vegans I've met that wear various articles of leather, feed their pets canned food (containing meat) and use other animal products. I try to point it out as often as possible.
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but does it smell like fish?
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Is it because this fuel packs more bang for the buck than traditional one, or is it because everyone wants to "feel" being green, even when trying to fly to other planets (and using all of 0.0000001% of world's "non-green" emissions of "whatever")? ;)
Just curious,
Paul B.
Don't you want your rocket to be finger lickin' good?
I8-D
OMG! Gonzo is on NASA's board and he is trying to get back to his home planet. - reference: Muppets From Space.
In Fight Club, they made soap from human fat.
But fat can also be made into bio-diesel with the addition of lye and methanol. (Lye is supposedly what Brad Pitt dropped onto Ed Norton's hand to make it burn).
So I'm assuming that they can collect all the waste product that goes into processed chicken plants (that's a lot, since the USA processes about 100 million chickens per day), add lye and methanol to the mix, and then process it further into some form of Kerosene, as that's what turbines (aka jet engines) tend to burn, although it could also be methane.
But if it was Methane, they could get it easier from Pig shit than from chicken fat, so I'm betting they found a way to "crack" the biodiesel into Kerosene.
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I should point out the link is a cybersquat of the real manufacturer's website (note the curious extra 's' in "vibram") - almost certainly, that link is for a crappy chinese rip-off outfit. Vibram has had a great deal of problems with counterfit products of late, and this sort of crapvertisement is just another symptom. I don't care to see their brand cast into ill-repute by peddlers of fake goods. Use google if you want to find the real website.
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Powering jets with chickens... I don't want to alert the irony police or anything but that's gotta be ironical!
Xenu is working for NASA now?
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Fossil fuels are almost all made out of dinosaur food: plants & algae.
Well its alright for animals to eat other animals for food, right? I mean you don't see vegans out in the forest hunting predators en' masse before they can kill and eat their prey. Somehow we have been removed from the food chain, and have to live under different rules.
Heh, usually, I don't see vegetarians or vegans attempt to climb stairs or exert more energy than it takes to sit down and gasp for air.
I like to think that I'm still part of the food-chain / circle of life thingy. If I run across an animal that considers me prey, I fully expect to kill or be killed.
Humans are the only creatures to choose what they eat on principle. Animals will kill when the opportunity presents itself - there are no tofu eating lions out there, unless the lion takes a big bite of a vegetarians stomach.
Personally, I like already dead food (the more recent, the better....but not squirming in my mouth)
"Lame" - Galaxar
Animals will kill when the opportunity presents itself - there are no tofu eating lions out there, unless the lion takes a big bite of a vegetarians stomach.
I can't tell if that was an intentional reference or not... http://www.knoble.com/family/images/Humor/tofu.gif
I am a proud owner of "The Complete Far Side", so yes, it was a reference for those similarly blessed.
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Well how else are they going to win a tank of gas?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvyOsYjWJlA
I heard it is lead by a Colonel Sanders!
Sure enough, the cow costume was hanging up next to the superhero outfit and sailors uniform. (S,Spud)
Why not just use the spent oil the chickens were deep fried in? We probably have enough of that to fly to the moon and back several times.