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Google To Offer Chrome OS Notebooks For $20/month
An anonymous reader writes "Hot on the heels of the $25 ARM computer, Google is to offer a $20 per month package for students, which includes a Chrome OS laptop (like the Cr-48) and an online component, which will likely include a storage bump for a user's Google Docs, Gmail, Picasa Web, and Google Music files. This would serve two purposes for Google: first, Google will be able to expand its existing user base for Chrome OS. For half the price of a typical cell phone contract, students will be able to pick up a netbook with 3G connectivity. Second, Google will be able to test the package offering publicly prior to eventually adding an enterprise version for Google Apps users."
they will begin offering Angry Birds on Chrome! http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/11/angry-birds-gets-a-web-version-in-google-chrome/
Lemme take a wild guess: Google is still working towards a strategy for the Canadian market, and will release there "soon", alongside Google Voice, Google TV, and flying cars.
Sure, if you believe you're losing nothing of value by granting Google access to all of your data, as well as a transferable, non-revokable, worldwide license-in-perpetuity to exploit all of your data as they see fit, it'll be totally free.
But honestly, with this plan, you're already granting Google a frightening level of control and access into every facet of your data... and paying them $20 a month for the privilege. I suspect Google will keep charging people a nominal fee, simply because they can.
Wait, no, I meant to say, "Yay Google, everything Google does is for the benefit of mankind because they mouth trite platitudes about not being evil. If they say it, they MUST mean it!"
A basic thinkpad costs around $800
Thinkpads last 7+ years, assuming a useful life of 5 years, cost per year = $160 $20/month
i have a beta cr-48 and haven't used it in months. even my wife rarely uses it anymore unlike her iphone.
it's OK and pretty fast but completely useless unless you have a network connection. ipad runs rings around it in hardware quality and functionality.
I think this has the most value in K12. A lot will depend on support contracts and additional costs, but for a 1:1 program this is a reasonable structure. Many people will compare this to buying a laptop for under $400 that can be used anywhere versus a $240 dollar annual cost for a device that only works over the web. What most people will miss and what will be important for this to work, is reducing the management and maintenance costs of the devices. If you combine the $240 appliance with wireless access at school, administrative control of the device, replacement structures for broken and stolen devices, and the ability to integrate with an LMS, this could be a valuable reduction in costs.
A $300 netbook that I can use for $0/month! That's right, ladies and gents, zero dollars per month!
And that's not all. It's even capable of storing up to 320 GB of data INSIDE the device itself! How amazing is that? You can carry your data right along with you, and not have to depend on "the cloud" or have problems with their data breeches.
If I keep it for 5 years, that's $1200 saved compared to a $20/month plan. And since I have both 802.11 and a cell phone anyway, I can still get network connectivity anywhere.
It's a damn amazing thing, I tell ya what.
As far as I know Dell and other vendors offer computers on installment payments. Isn't that a better choice than renting?
Now you just need to make sure you never lose your connection to the internet, otherwise you're screwed.
In Canada, that'd be roughly a third, or less, of a typical cell phone contract. I'm paying close to $80 CDN a month for 65 minutes, unlimited texting, caller ID and a gb of data on a smartphone... and I know Canada's not the worst, although we're pretty bad.
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So your math isn't realistic. This is a dumb terminal for $20/month. I can give you a shovel, and you might find an old Televideo in a landfill some place that might be adaptable to WiFi.
Google believes convenience is going to rule, but there's little compelling for $20/month.
---- Teach Peace. It's Cheaper Than War.
As an owner of a Chrome OS laptop, the only way I'd get one of these (or recommend it to a friend) is if they came with unlimited 3G. The 100mb cap is not nearly enough.
Sent from my CR-48
I'd like to see definite proof in the form of a signup page rather than slashdot's repost of an extremetech repost of Forbe's repost of Engadget's speculation. Can anyone provide that?
I thought they would give it up after the lukewarm response to their beta devices.
That's Google for you, not afraid of failure--even when it's staring at them squarely in the face.
-dZ.
Carol vs. Ghost
I was writing a paper on the PC^W Google laptop, and it was, like, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep^W^W^W^W^W Google Docs crashed, and then, like, half^W all of my papers was gone. And I was, like ? meh. It devoured my paper. It was a really good papers. And then I had to do it^W them all again and I had to do it^W them fast so it^W they wasn't as good. It's kind of^W^W^W really a fucking bummer.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
I can't tell from TFA if this price is supposed to include a 3G data connection. If it is, that would be revolutionary. If it doesn't, then I imagine the deal would only be interesting to students that get free wifi in their dorms and already have an XBox for their gaming needs. Sounds like a pretty good market, especially if they can get a deal with schools to offer it as part of tuition or dorm rent, etc.
Can they really sell a novel I write in Google Docs as their own?
Wow, sent an e-mail as suggested when clicking on "use classic" banner, and got a fast response that addressed my msg
I'm happy to subsidize the services that Google offers me by granting them anonymized access to my data. I use Google Voice. I know that they're mining my voicemails to improve their speech-recognition algorithms; I'm fine with that. They're offering me a service for free that Verizon wants to charge me about $10/mo for - free unlimited texting, alongside a visual voicemail inbox. I understand the tradeoff, and I think it's a pretty fair deal.
Can't we have a discussion about [dictator] without [deaths] being raised?
We can, but expect any positive points about [dictator] to be put in the context of [deaths].
It all depends on whether that $20/mo includes the data plan, or if the laptop only contains a 3G modem. If it does include the data plan, you're essentially getting a free notebook with the purchase of the data plan, which isn't too bad in itself.
Trying to step around Godwin? Say what you really meant.
While I have no doubt that Google's rapacious desire for information rivals the wildest dreams of Honecker and Goebbels combined, all I was saying was that you can't expect anyone making an honest appraisal to ignore the elephant in the room. To do so brings to mind the sort of ridiculous fanboyism you get for the most extreme ideas, where adherents can't stop mentioning the positives but refuse to acknowledge the negatives.
Also, every few years I've returned to /. and created a new UID. I think I first posted around 1998. It used to be way better, but it's still a passable way of engaging in a minute's downtime every so often in the day.
If you're asking "can we talk about Google without talking about reprehensible data mining?" the answer is no. Next question.
Hey, I finally got my first freak! Took you long enough!
You're not getting it. You obviously think Google is over the top in their information gathering. Fine. But Google are not murderers and you cheapen your point by Godwinning the thread. It makes you sound hysterical and most reasonable people are going to either ignore you or just get irritated until you shut up.
The soylentnews experiment has been a dismal failure.
It's $20/month/user for K12 and College
But how well would it work for students majoring in software engineering or computer science?
The only Godwinning has been done by yourself. Perhaps all geeks are fairly ignorant outside their field and can't think of any dictator except Hitler, so they insultingly simplify the experience of the hundreds of millions who have lived under dictators other than Hitler. Or perhaps it's just you.
By showing how ridiculous the behaviour of fanboys are, akin to cultish followers of an inhumane political philosophy who refuse to see or hear the negative, I appear to have received fairly angry responses. If you really thought my argument was absurd nonsense you'd have just ignored it. But you were annoyed by the suggestion that people leave all sense of balance and reason at the door even when it comes to a particular IT firm, and felt the need to handwave away the possibility without even tackling the accusation directly.
So how about tackling the accusation rather than the person, if you can? Maybe you'll find something about yourself.
Hey, I was just trying to give you a couple of pointers so people might actually take you seriously. But, you obviously feel like you have it figured out and don't have to listen to me. Party on, dude!
The soylentnews experiment has been a dismal failure.
One where they film people going around repossessing laptops.
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were attended by 100s of students. I can't see there being much capacity available to upload or download 10s of Mbytes per student for 100s or 1000s of students in a small campus area. I don't believe the infrastructure in most places would be able to handle "download your textbook and turn to the section on..." in a timely manner.
Nullius in verba
Which brings up what I REALLY want to know....how much just to buy the bloody thing? Surely it'll have to be pretty damned cheap when i can get Droid pads starting at like $115 and you just know once these things have been in the wild a little bit some FOSS hacker is is gonna ricer the fuck out of it and THAT will be worth playing around with. I mean look at how many DIY hacks came out for those first EEE netbooks, they had everything from touch screens to 3G wired into those suckers!
So please Google say the thing is gonna be cheap, preferably in the $100 range. At that price you're welcome to play with whatever data I generate until i figure out which DIY plan I want to fuck with, otherwise I'll probably get one of those cheapo Cruz pads to fuck with. And yes i know they are CCC (Cheapo Chinese Crap) but from watching my customers with the things the important thing is its fun to futz with and from the looks of it for basic web surfing and ebooks it works just fine. So if Google will give me an ultra light for around the same price I'm game, but paying $240 for the thing when I can just get a pad? Nope, if I'm paying for it I want to be able to futz around.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
Fanboyism has the same characteristics whether it's applied to Kirk vs Picard or Libertardianism vs Fascism. Sometimes a point is best made by finding the most extreme example which doesn't cause the audience to have a seizure.
The Internet is not serious business, so people online who "OMG how can you compare that to _____ that's so insensitive!" are either very new, trolls or a bit silly.
Every post here is (understandably) negative. But, come on kids, we are not the audience here. Programmers are not the audience. Hackers are not the audience. Gamers are not the audience.
People who spend all day on facebook, gmail and last.fm are the audience. And this is probably a very good solution for them.
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How many high schools do you know of that allow students to use a personal laptop in class?
That depends on each student's individualized education plan. A gifted student with certain mental disabilities (such as ADHD or Asperger syndrome) may get computer time between the lecture and the end of the period.
It is considered a distraction.
Whom does it distract?
Then why not get a real laptop on financing? You don't need to pay the whole amount up front and even if you're paying interest it's not like people won't be making a profit on a Chrome OS laptop for $20 per month.
I was about to make a snarky comment about turning in your geek card, but then realized we now have a generation of geeks who legitimately don't know that ^W = Control-W => Delete Word.
Can we get a "-1 Wrong" moderation option?
"individualized education "
How do you get that?
Let me Google that for you. If it is demonstrated that a K-12 student's difference in ability has an adverse effect on the student's educational progress, the student is entitled to an IEP.
Lacking 3G coverage, most areas have EDGE network available, and the 3G radio should fall back to that.
Yeah, it's slow - but at least it works (big difference between "slow" and "nothing"). 'tis rare that my iPad gets no service whatsoever, as most "middle of nowhere" areas still have EDGE at minimum.
Upshot: if your cell phone works, and you're not doing international roaming, it will at least function passably until you return to suitable civilization.
Can we get a "-1 Wrong" moderation option?
oh, everyone! look at me: "I" have a "Real" laptop with an "SSD"
you know what? go fuck yourself.
According to http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/chart/reCenter.jsp?z=24&n=24, Cr-48 is is radioactive, with a half life of about 21.5 hrs.
It decays by inverse beta decay (electron capture) which is funny since Google applications seem to stay in beta forever.
...the future crusty old bastards are already drinking the Kool-Aid.
Data Pricing: http://www.google.com/chromebook/#features-connectivity
Business Pricing: http://goo.gl/3BLXW
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All the data that Google will be able to collect from these laptops and the Google services they enable are going to be worth way more to Google than $20 / mo. Google should be providing the laptop free of charge in exchange.
probly in the 150-199 range when it hits retail sales.
> license-in-perpetuity
So I get to live forever? Alright! I am an Immortal.
Just what I need... doing homework on rented equipment.
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the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
I usually read through the first couple comments for Slashdot stories, because I generally like the arguments that are made. I read through the first couple for this article because I'm interested in the brewing war between Windows and ChromeOS, and this whole topic is a disgusting shitstorm: fights about nationalism, racist crap, petty name-calling....what the fuck? I know I'm not making it any better, but I was just so surprised I had to comment on it.
Will they be available to us Canadians?
If not, then I guess I will have to buy in the US, but will it be worthwhile, anyone have thoughts or POC for this?