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Hacker Group LulzSec Challenges FBI
Tiek00n writes "Hacker Group 'LulzSec' has gained some attention recently for their hacks of PBS and Sony. Their most recent target: FBI affiliate Infragard. The group claims, 'It has come to our unfortunate attention that NATO and our good friend Barrack Osama-Llama 24th-century Obama have recently upped the stakes with regard to hacking. They now treat hacking as an act of war. So, we just hacked an FBI affiliated website (Infragard, specifically the Atlanta chapter) and leaked its user base. We also took complete control over the site and defaced it...'"
Take a site down first and then make sure it stays down by slashdotting it.
Or is Slashdot slashdotted? These 503 errors have been happening for a couple of days now.
So it's clear from the emails leaked that the US of A just started a war with Libya.
I wonder if the people of the USA have any legal recourse to arrest our own government for illegal acts of war since the evidence is out in the open, not to mention violating human rights by attempting to maintain slave labor conditions (The recent Levi Strauss/Haiti revelation) for profit.
Oh, and shall we drop on charges of illegal renditions of other countries leaders (how do you think Haiti happened?)
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
How is that hypocrisy? If you define hacking as an attack on military or civilian infrastructure, then you're playing with the big boys. And those big boys get to define it as anything from a teenaged prank to a full out declaration of war -- based upon who attacked and what the consequences of those actions are. In a lot of respects it's no different than launching an assault by good old fashioned physical means.
So if you're treating this as a joke, grow up. These are real actions with real consequences.
"Now we are all sons of bitches , Lulz Security". I approve of the Manhattan project reference.
We see with Apple and Google phones tracking people, SSD not being securely erased, police with gadgets that rip all data off cell phones, back doors in routers, NSA rooms on the AT&T backbone servers, printers with secret yellow codes, carriers recording GPS coordinates 8 times a hour, TOMTOM and ONStar snitching the list goes on and on... We see EXACTLY what the jack booted government thugs are making the industry do with products we need to use, grossly invading the rights of everyone in the process and under the guise of trying to catch a few bad guys. Enough is ENOUGH!
LulzSec just showed their hand that they are operating like a schoolyard bully. "Do what we want / act like we want, or we'll hack you."
You might think they are standing up to a bully (USA), but taking down 3 different Sony companies smells of a bully, kicking them while they are down.
Those guys are faceless and nameless. We won't know who disappeared when they disappear. We will just know they disappeared.
I mean, right?
Let's say a citizen, or many citizens, are shot. If it's done by another US citizen, it's murder, a crime, and not an 'act of war.' If it's done by some organization, it's homebrew terrorism. If it's done by another country, it's an act of war. That doesn't seem like a wholly unreasonable stance to hold, although it certainly can be debated, I guess.
I don't know, are these people going for the "That's a ridiculous stance on hacking, what are you gonna do, declare war on US?? How ludicrous! See, hacking is not an act of war" angle to this whole thing?
If so.....lulz.
(and by well, I mean with prison sex).
You haven't read 1984? The government need the excuse of a permanent war against an unspecified enemy in order to get away with most anything, making it easy to approve tax hikes, keeping operations secret in the name of state security, and keeping the citizens in place. A few decades ago you had the "Communists". Up until recently you had the "Terrorists". In a decade you'll have the "Hackers". Since they do not really exist in any tangible or organized way they can not be beaten and they are no real threat, but they are useful for scaring the population.
c++;
Funny how the ratio of Anonymous Coward comments to logged in user comments seems to have spiked on this thread.
As long as these guys don't brag about it openly in pubs, I bet many will never get caught.
You pull at the loose threads until the whole fabric begins to unravel.
I mean, c'mon - they couldn't find Osama Bin Laden when he was living in the same house for many years - what makes you think they'll magically be able to find hackers?
The hacker is an adolescent braggart who thinks he is bullet-proof.
Osama's father made billions on construction projects for the Saudi royal family. Osama's share was worth $100-300 million. That bought a lot of protection these hackers do not have.
But Osama is still dead.
So, they didn't even salt the md5 hashes. How lazy does this "security" firm want to be?
Also, how simple do some of these passwords want to be? LOL "infragard26j" are you kidding me? Come on IBM, lift your game!
Here's a copy of the exposed file on PasteBin
I've noticed that the "cracking" method of choice was just "see if these are known values in public rainbow tables". Which, many of them were. Huzzah!
Also, I thought that all md5's had been cracked before, however it seems not so. So, I decided to calculate how many gb such a table would AT LEAST have to be. Well, I was quite surprised. Unless there's collisions or my math is fucked, that's quite a lot!
Seems Unveilance, the company which had its CEO's private emails leaked, has responded and sort of, also authenticated the hack too. Unveillance Official Statement
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I realize that asking people posting on Slashdot to RTFA is asking too much, but if half the people posting on this article understood basic English...well, there would be about half as many posts and LulzSec would look like the morons that they are.
The Pentagon does not classify hacking as an act of war. What they are doing is stating that hacking by a foreign power may constitute an act of war. There is a world of difference, and understanding that difference sheds some light on just how dumb LulzSec really is for their behavior. Here's hoping they get the jail time that they deserve for acting like spoiled teenagers.
Social Engineering Expert: Because there is no patch for stupidity.
Sadly the service that LulzSec is providing is that of: "Now Feds have reason for totalitarian internet laws and broad ISP log searches."
We are all just people.
Ah, but see - the difference between "Communists", "Terrorists" and "Hackers" is that the first two didn't really speak English, and they didn't ridicule their targets. If, instead of flying planes into the WTC on 9/11, the terrorists had just made the airplanes do loop-de-loops to show how useless airline security was, you can bet that our response would have been significantly different.
The outcome of ridicule, which seems to be the future, is much different than the outcome of direct confrontation.
the 20th century should have been the end of legitimate arguments for overreaching state power, govrment secrecy, and police states, with (at least) 50 million people directly killed in concentration & labor camps for the benefit of a bureaucracy.
compare that to a few thousand people killed by terrorism, it doesnt even begin to compare. we should be locking up anyone who even approaches moving in a dictator-ship like direction, because the threat of terrorism is just about as dangerous as the threat of perscription medication or tornados, while the threat of overreaching government is as real as the bricks at auschwitz.
information about bio, chem, and nuke weapons is not rocket science. building a nuclear bomb is not rocket science. its nuclear science and its not that hard. the only hard part is gathering enough fissile material.
but governments are paying more attention to frisking babies than to keeping tight controls on uranium mines.
there was a whole warehouse full of yellowcake sitting in Iraq before the war - the us barely even tried to secure it.