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Hacker Group LulzSec Challenges FBI
Tiek00n writes "Hacker Group 'LulzSec' has gained some attention recently for their hacks of PBS and Sony. Their most recent target: FBI affiliate Infragard. The group claims, 'It has come to our unfortunate attention that NATO and our good friend Barrack Osama-Llama 24th-century Obama have recently upped the stakes with regard to hacking. They now treat hacking as an act of war. So, we just hacked an FBI affiliated website (Infragard, specifically the Atlanta chapter) and leaked its user base. We also took complete control over the site and defaced it...'"
Well done LulzSec. Exposing the hypocrisy in the US government... condemning hacking while funding it themselves.
Take a site down first and then make sure it stays down by slashdotting it.
Or is Slashdot slashdotted? These 503 errors have been happening for a couple of days now.
So it's clear from the emails leaked that the US of A just started a war with Libya.
I wonder if the people of the USA have any legal recourse to arrest our own government for illegal acts of war since the evidence is out in the open, not to mention violating human rights by attempting to maintain slave labor conditions (The recent Levi Strauss/Haiti revelation) for profit.
Oh, and shall we drop on charges of illegal renditions of other countries leaders (how do you think Haiti happened?)
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
"Now we are all sons of bitches , Lulz Security". I approve of the Manhattan project reference.
We see with Apple and Google phones tracking people, SSD not being securely erased, police with gadgets that rip all data off cell phones, back doors in routers, NSA rooms on the AT&T backbone servers, printers with secret yellow codes, carriers recording GPS coordinates 8 times a hour, TOMTOM and ONStar snitching the list goes on and on... We see EXACTLY what the jack booted government thugs are making the industry do with products we need to use, grossly invading the rights of everyone in the process and under the guise of trying to catch a few bad guys. Enough is ENOUGH!
LulzSec just showed their hand that they are operating like a schoolyard bully. "Do what we want / act like we want, or we'll hack you."
You might think they are standing up to a bully (USA), but taking down 3 different Sony companies smells of a bully, kicking them while they are down.
Those guys are faceless and nameless. We won't know who disappeared when they disappear. We will just know they disappeared.
...to find this all frickin' hilarious?
Wildly entertaining as a spectator.
I mean, right?
Let's say a citizen, or many citizens, are shot. If it's done by another US citizen, it's murder, a crime, and not an 'act of war.' If it's done by some organization, it's homebrew terrorism. If it's done by another country, it's an act of war. That doesn't seem like a wholly unreasonable stance to hold, although it certainly can be debated, I guess.
I don't know, are these people going for the "That's a ridiculous stance on hacking, what are you gonna do, declare war on US?? How ludicrous! See, hacking is not an act of war" angle to this whole thing?
If so.....lulz.
(and by well, I mean with prison sex).
Funny how the ratio of Anonymous Coward comments to logged in user comments seems to have spiked on this thread.
As long as these guys don't brag about it openly in pubs, I bet many will never get caught.
You pull at the loose threads until the whole fabric begins to unravel.
I mean, c'mon - they couldn't find Osama Bin Laden when he was living in the same house for many years - what makes you think they'll magically be able to find hackers?
The hacker is an adolescent braggart who thinks he is bullet-proof.
Osama's father made billions on construction projects for the Saudi royal family. Osama's share was worth $100-300 million. That bought a lot of protection these hackers do not have.
But Osama is still dead.
So, they didn't even salt the md5 hashes. How lazy does this "security" firm want to be?
Also, how simple do some of these passwords want to be? LOL "infragard26j" are you kidding me? Come on IBM, lift your game!
Here's a copy of the exposed file on PasteBin
I've noticed that the "cracking" method of choice was just "see if these are known values in public rainbow tables". Which, many of them were. Huzzah!
Also, I thought that all md5's had been cracked before, however it seems not so. So, I decided to calculate how many gb such a table would AT LEAST have to be. Well, I was quite surprised. Unless there's collisions or my math is fucked, that's quite a lot!
Seems Unveilance, the company which had its CEO's private emails leaked, has responded and sort of, also authenticated the hack too. Unveillance Official Statement
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Are you positive that Lulz is not a government/theocratic cyber warfare unit operating out of Europe or the Mid-East or China or Cuba or Venezuela? In other words, people who have ponies in the race? How can you be sure?
Or, is it your attitude that while the above mentioned countries can and do have cyber warfare units it is wrong for the USA to have its own unit too?
One never reads about these "hackers" breaking into Russian or Chinese government websites and then releasing documents they steal. Why is that? Could it be that they know that they are not as "invisible" as they brag to be, and that if they did attack those sites it wouldn't be long before they were sleeping with the reporters whom Putin didn't like, or they'd suddenly wake up in a Chinese or Iranian prison?
And, to the idiot who claimed that "hacking never hurt anyone", talk to the people who were put in harms way by WikiLeaks sloppy editing of stolen documents containing the names of people.
The RICO and PATRIOT Acts, along with the TSA, have done enough damage to citizens of the USA without having hackers further the harm. It's time for rational people to replace the Rude-Goldberg security arrangements created by the DHS. But, let's imagine that Lulz and WikiLeaks are successful in creating a citizen uproar that results in the activities of USA espionage agencies being severely, although irrationally, curtailed. When those agencies can no longer prevent the smuggling of a disassembled Pakistani or Iranian nuclear bomb into the country and, say, Denver, CO disappears in a mushroom cloud, will you be happen then?
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Well the US government managed to declare a war on terror which is essentially a war on its own citizens given how they've starting tracking them, invading their privacy, and essentially stripping them of any of their human rights (rights provided by the constitution or otherwise). So they've already got their internal war. Not much more for them to do there, all they've got left to do is the same thing for all other nations which they haven't done it to.
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There is a thought that if you have a very large army you have to use it on external targets every now and then. Otherwise it will get bored and start flexing internally. Kind of like banana republics that have extensive (for their size) militaries but aren't quite big enough to safely fight anyone around them. Eventually they turn on themselves and the generals become presidents for life. Given that America spends more on their military than the rest of the world combined, they need to continually be fighting, or else the next white house will be the pentagon. The other option is to stop spending so much on the military so they can afford to take care of their own people without worrying about the budget ceiling all the time.
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the 20th century should have been the end of legitimate arguments for overreaching state power, govrment secrecy, and police states, with (at least) 50 million people directly killed in concentration & labor camps for the benefit of a bureaucracy.
compare that to a few thousand people killed by terrorism, it doesnt even begin to compare. we should be locking up anyone who even approaches moving in a dictator-ship like direction, because the threat of terrorism is just about as dangerous as the threat of perscription medication or tornados, while the threat of overreaching government is as real as the bricks at auschwitz.
information about bio, chem, and nuke weapons is not rocket science. building a nuclear bomb is not rocket science. its nuclear science and its not that hard. the only hard part is gathering enough fissile material.
but governments are paying more attention to frisking babies than to keeping tight controls on uranium mines.
there was a whole warehouse full of yellowcake sitting in Iraq before the war - the us barely even tried to secure it.