Daily Sony Hacking Occurs On Schedule

jjp9999 writes "LulzSec was compromised and a member of the group, Robert Cavanaugh, was arrested by the FBI on June 6. Meanwhile, LulzSec hacked Sony again, this time leaking the Sony Developer Network source code through file sharing websites."

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Sounds like they're got inside access

[GodfatherofSoul]

Not a network guy, but if they're repeating these hacks so quickly and with such regularity I imagine their backdoor is still up.

Re:Sounds like they're got inside access

[NoSleepDemon]

I think Sony's chief failure in this whole incident is that they believe their customers like to take it in the back-door as frequently and as messily as they do.

Re:Sounds like they're got inside access

[MozeeToby]

Maybe you didn't read the earlier articles about just how horrible Sony's security setup is. Here's a hint: It's every bit bad enough that a dedicated group could find a different way into the system every day for weeks on end.

Re:Sounds like they're got inside access

[tripleevenfall]

Well, no, I think this is one of the few times that the "terrorists", so to speak, actually won.

LulzSec said they would do this as revenge for Sony taking legal action against someone for jailbreaking the PS3. LulzSec has successfully cost Sony far, far more than jailbreaking ever would have.

Re:Sounds like they're got inside access

[TubeSteak]

Maybe you didn't read the earlier articles about just how horrible Sony's security setup is. Here's a hint: It's every bit bad enough that a dedicated group could find a different way into the system every day for weeks on end.

I don't think you're doing anyone a favor when you present Sony as a monolithic corporation.
It's not as simple as Sony vetting one security setup and replicating it across all websites tagged as Sony.
Sony is made of of endless domestic and international subcorporations, each with its own (poor) security setup.

At least these hacks are a return to the previous trend of defacements, revenge, and lulz,
as opposed to the last few years of organized crime, ID theft, and renting out botnets.

Re:Sounds like they're got inside access

[TubeSteak]

Well, no, I think this is one of the few times that the "terrorists", so to speak, actually won.

10 years ago no one would have used the word "terrorists" (in quotations or otherwise) to describe straight forward black hat hacking.

There are at least a hundred definitions of "terrorism" and they all include violence or the threat of violence.
There's no violence here.

Re:Sounds like they're got inside access

[commandermonkey]

One of the few times? Seriously??

Can you name one "terrorist" attack that hasn't been severly one sided in terms of cost?

• Oklahoma city - for less than $5k there was 82.5Million in investigative cost alone
• 9/11 -4 Planes, Several buildings, more expensive airport security, loss of jobs, etc have been estimated at over 2 trillion. +10 years of expensive war in Afghanistan
• Anthrax Attacks - for the cost of 7 letters we got a clean up that the FBI put over 1billion and the war in Iraq
• Liquid bombers - didn't even happen and we got more security theater and still have restrictions on liquids
• Times square bomber - unsuccessful attack that got politically elites talking about suspending Miranda
• Underwear bomb - Super expensive scanners and more security theater.

Seriously, what "terrorist" attack in the last 10 years were you thinking of that hasn't caused a serous disproportionate response? Why do you think there seem to be more attacks in the last few years? For every couple thousand spent blowing, or attempting to blow, something up we spend hundreds or millions/billions/trillions reacting to it and every few large attacks causes the US to give away more of the "freedom(s)" that the terrorists hate. Over the last decade

the "terrorists", so to speak, [have] won.

I almost feel sorry for Sony

[v1]

no wait, I don't. Get me some popcorn, this is a good show.

Re:I almost feel sorry for Sony

[elrous0]

I just imagine someone hacking their presentation at E3 while they're live onstage. That would be some serious lulz.

TFA Is Sparse On Information

[WrongSizeGlass]

TFA doesn't tell us much except that Sony got hacked and some guy got arrested. The summary sums up the whole thing.

Re:TFA Is Sparse On Information

[Nrrqshrr]

For once the summary is good enough. We can't complain.

Arrested

[Hatta]

Guess the seven proxies weren't enough.

How did this arrest go down? This is clearly a more interesting development then yet another Sony hack. Hopefully there will be more information forthcoming.

Story innacurate according to the group

[Capeman]

The posted details here: http://pastebin.com/yut4P6qN

Re:Robert Cavanaugh (Not Apart of Lulzsec)

[mirix]

That would mean he is apart of lulzsec - not that that makes him a part of it, or anything like that.

Re:I lost track

[Anonymous Coward]

so how does any of this relate to removing OtherOS anymore?

You don't let people hack your consoles, they find something else to hack. Idle hands and all that. :)

you attack its weak point for massive damage

[Thud457]

heaven forbid they hack the presentation and the CEO starts blindly reading blather about a giant enemy crab off the teleprompter. That would be mortifying.

Not always black and white

[manekineko2]

Indeed it must not, because turning a blind eye to crime just because you don't like the victim leads to mob rule. It is the antithesis of the rule of law on which our society is founded, which protects our rights as well as Sony's. That's one slope that history has proven time and time again to be very slippery indeed.

I don't think the history has conclusively proven at all whether the rule of law enforced blindly without regards to who is right or wrong is a good thing.

For example, the Underground Railroad illegally helping escaped slaves, or every revolution in the history of the world.

Obviously the importance of the cause is different here, but it helps make my point clearer by using high-profile examples.

Re:Bad Porn

[xMrFishx]

Although it also comes with the downside of being a holding group, umbrella naming. To Average Joe (via the sensationalist media), Sony X and Sony Y are the same thing. As it all masquerades under the name Sony, hacking Sony Music and Sony TV is essentially the same thing, even if, to the rest of us, it isn't. Ultimately though, I find the whole thing very funny and am rather enjoying watching.

Nope, Safety is a Myth

[IBitOBear]

Just like the TSA hasn't stopped a single act of terror, only passengers have done that; most security measures cannot stop a determined professional.

Safety and Security are largely mythological, the concepts are sold to a public that feels the need to exist with impunity.

In point of fact, it is largely manners that keeps people safe and secure. Most of us do not act on our darker natures because it would be rude.

Sony has demonstrated that they don't care about being well-mannered, and that they honestly believe that technology can keep them safe. They believe in DRM and they believe that they have the right to change a deal they have already made as if they were Darth Vader. They believe in their own Empire and they are willing to use any means necessary to maintain their grasp.

In point of fact, the technological community is simply having a very high immune response to this bad actor in their midst.

If Sony were to just come out, apologize for being douche-bags and promise never to do it again, they attacks would taper off quickly. They don't even have to mean it.

For all that the *IAA have been idiots and evil, they didn't mess with the technologists as a whole, so they have gotten a pass so far. They also don't actually do anything, so they have been impossible to strike.

Sony, as a member of *IAA(s) _and_ as a first person actor in technology via the PS3 etc, _and_ having stepped far across the line with the Hotz thing, has simply taken the first hit of lightning.

Thing is, the community at large has now learned that they _can_ make a company pay. The frontier has been opened. The Streisand Effect is real, and it will, sadly, take the business world a little longer to learn that "The Angry Villagers Rule" is real as well.

The torches are alight and the pitchforks are out and waving.

In the technological circles, the technologists are peasants, but they do feed the nation and they do strike back.

Companies need to rediscover their manners.

Re:Nope, Safety is a Myth

[Omnifarious]

I'm guessing that at least part of the fun is the support they're getting. If that support evaporated, I think they'd find other targets. They want bitcoin donations, they talk about how many people follow them on twitter. They care about the support they get. So I don't think your assessment is entirely accurate.

Re:Go FBI!

[houghi]

Where was the FBI when Sony hacked our systems?

We KNOW where the ringleaders are who did that and I am also looking forward eagerly to the day when the ringleaders are forced to defend their actions in court.

My guess is that yours comes first and mine won't come at all.

So yeah, I stick it to the man, because there is REASON to do so.

Re:Go FBI!

[Risen888]

I'm losing all the mods I made thus far (and resisting the temptation to downmod you just because you coughed up that stupid "I'll get modded down for this" crap, which is my usual policy for such whiny attention-seeking dickweedism), but I can't let this go by uncontested.

turning a blind eye to crime just because you don't like the victim leads to mob rule. It is the antithesis of the rule of law on which our society is founded, which protects our rights as well as Sony's.

That's just crazy. Our society in no way "protects our rights as well as Sony's." Our legal system is designed to protect Sony's "rights" (which are not rights, but privileges granted to an artificial construct called Sony) at the expense of our rights (which are in fact, as enumerated in our Constitution, actual and legal rights). The idea you propose here matches neither the theoretical nor the actual system under which we live. And you know it.

That's one slope that history has proven time and time again to be very slippery indeed.

I'd say the exact same thing, but I don't think we're talking about the same slope.

And, hey, maybe they'll put up such a good defence that the jury will refuse to convict them and the balance of power between corporations and common people will be shifted, and that would probably be good too. But it should be done in courts or congress, not by vigilante mobs deciding to lynch a corporation that offended them.

Because that happens in courtrooms across this great land of ours every day, doesn't it? Congresscritters are pushing each other out of the way to champion Joe Everyman against the nefarious interests of Big Media, aren't they? And our well-informed, socially aware, and technologically savvy courts deal defeat after defeat to these villains! Why, it's a wonder things like this ever happen given the enlightened society and legal code under which we live!

Are you fucking kidding me?

Are you for some reason under the impression that those people work for you or something? I can assure you they do not.

Given all that, I'd like to hear a realistic alternative to vigilante mobs.