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jjp9999 writes "LulzSec was compromised and a member of the group, Robert Cavanaugh, was arrested by the FBI on June 6. Meanwhile, LulzSec hacked Sony again, this time leaking the Sony Developer Network source code through file sharing websites."
Not a network guy, but if they're repeating these hacks so quickly and with such regularity I imagine their backdoor is still up.
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
no wait, I don't. Get me some popcorn, this is a good show.
I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
so how does any of this relate to removing OtherOS anymore?
TFA doesn't tell us much except that Sony got hacked and some guy got arrested. The summary sums up the whole thing.
Guess the seven proxies weren't enough.
How did this arrest go down? This is clearly a more interesting development then yet another Sony hack. Hopefully there will be more information forthcoming.
Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
This kid isn't apart of LulzSec, he was in the process of being recruited. As you can see his arrest as no effect on LulzSec.
The posted details here: http://pastebin.com/yut4P6qN
I'm not sure which is more frightening - the fact these guys backdoor Sony repeatedly or that Sony doesn't seem to want to stop them.
For the record:
1) Yes, I am aware of the double entendres.
2) No, I do not believe rape is funny.
3) No, I am not homophobic.
I call it 'The Aristocrats'
Don't they realize they would gain much more by apologizing for and desisting against GeoHot than they would be trying to sentimentally appease investors who are already losing their asses due to Sony's complete unawareness of ALL simple, cultural matters related to information and security? All they've done this whole episode is show their complete idiocy: in failing to understand the proper and graceful way to accept having a device defeated by a hacker; failing to understand that hackers are serious about their claims and abilities; failing to understand most of the underlying principles not only of technology being used but information theory itself and pertinent concepts like retention of information and where it applies to real-world security models such as trust-based networks. It seems nobody these days in any position of much worth or prominence has even a clue about the workings and mechanisms of governance, of security, of infrastructure, any of it. Sony is just the epitome of what the generations have come down to and how very little they're capable of maintaining rational thought and in-the-now presence. This disgraceful, wretched form of half-witted aggression against normal, common people has become pandemic amongst those wherein whom political and economic power is found consolidated, and their very lowbrow and disdainful perception of what the average human being constitutes in their need and capability is almost villain like. There are very few people amongst either the completely unaffected (yet exposed to the story via media) and those directly affected (Sony's clientele and consumer-base) who are rooting for the company in these recent matters, meanwhile, the company seeks to appease investors instead of the common person or their clientele, showing almost complete apathy towards those who have proffered substantial sums for broken-down old "services". This also goes to show you what the common person is reduced to in terms of buyer awareness and consumer savvy, that this decrepit network -- apparently run by people barely associated with the concepts involved beyond marketing and financing -- is one of the widest-selling entertainment services in the modern world. And yet Sony still manages to fail to find a friend in the world! Bewildering!
"Stratigraphically the origin of agriculture and thermonuclear destruction will appear essentially simultaneous" -- Lee
I mean, these intrusions are happening with such frequency that I can't imagine there's still a point to be proven... plus, reading about it all the time on slashdot is starting to feel like seeing a headline for a traffic light changing color.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
Seriously, I expect this will be modded into oblivion because Slashdot hates Sony and loves anyone who sticks it to the man (see also: Wikileaks, Anonymous, etc).
But they are criminals, and therefore I for one am glad that the FBI has had some little success in tracking them down, and look forward eagerly to the day when the ringleaders are forced to defend their actions in court.
The fact that they are committing crimes against someone you hate cannot justify those crimes. Indeed it must not, because turning a blind eye to crime just because you don't like the victim leads to mob rule. It is the antithesis of the rule of law on which our society is founded, which protects our rights as well as Sony's. That's one slope that history has proven time and time again to be very slippery indeed.
And, hey, maybe they'll put up such a good defence that the jury will refuse to convict them and the balance of power between corporations and common people will be shifted, and that would probably be good too. But it should be done in courts or congress, not by vigilante mobs deciding to lynch a corporation that offended them.
The article is pretty bad:
One member of the group, Robert Cavanaugh, was apprehended and taken into custody by the FBI after an apparent counter hack, according to an internal chat log from their private IRC server, posted through SecList, a network mapper website.
SecList? I think they meant the full-disclosure mailing list, which happens to be archived by seclists.org, which happens to be a "sister site" of insecure.org (the home of the nmap network mapper).
Anyway, here is the relevant post
- or at least has folks with the same mentality, even if they're not from /b/ or 4chan. Although the Anons I know in real life are proud to admit their affiliation (to people who are okay to know), I also suspect that members of Lulz are quite okay being totally silent on what their are doing, considering how dangerous is it.
If nothing else, this has provided me the impetus to go and change all my passwords.
Occasionally living proof of the Ballmer peak.
heaven forbid they hack the presentation and the CEO starts blindly reading blather about a giant enemy crab off the teleprompter. That would be mortifying.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
From TFA:
"SonyPictures.com was owned by a very simple SQL injection, one of the most primitive and common vulnerabilities, as we should all know by now. From a single injection, we accessed EVERYTHING. Why do you put such faith in a company that allows itself to become open to these simple attacks?”
Are these hackers this disjointed from reality they believe this? Does everyone wear a bullet proof vest 100% of the time? Guess its their fault they get shot for simply walking down the street.
Blaming Sony for these hacks are in the same league as blaming a rape victim for the assault because she was dressed and acting like a slut. Sure Sony is an evil corporation, but you never get to blame the victim of a crime, for the crime.
No means no, whether its a girl telling you no when you try and cop a feel, or a cooperation saying no to using their service unless you play by their rules.
Indeed it must not, because turning a blind eye to crime just because you don't like the victim leads to mob rule. It is the antithesis of the rule of law on which our society is founded, which protects our rights as well as Sony's. That's one slope that history has proven time and time again to be very slippery indeed.
I don't think the history has conclusively proven at all whether the rule of law enforced blindly without regards to who is right or wrong is a good thing.
For example, the Underground Railroad illegally helping escaped slaves, or every revolution in the history of the world.
Obviously the importance of the cause is different here, but it helps make my point clearer by using high-profile examples.
You must be new here.
Imagination is more important than knowledge -Einstien
Just like the TSA hasn't stopped a single act of terror, only passengers have done that; most security measures cannot stop a determined professional.
Safety and Security are largely mythological, the concepts are sold to a public that feels the need to exist with impunity.
In point of fact, it is largely manners that keeps people safe and secure. Most of us do not act on our darker natures because it would be rude.
Sony has demonstrated that they don't care about being well-mannered, and that they honestly believe that technology can keep them safe. They believe in DRM and they believe that they have the right to change a deal they have already made as if they were Darth Vader. They believe in their own Empire and they are willing to use any means necessary to maintain their grasp.
In point of fact, the technological community is simply having a very high immune response to this bad actor in their midst.
If Sony were to just come out, apologize for being douche-bags and promise never to do it again, they attacks would taper off quickly. They don't even have to mean it.
For all that the *IAA have been idiots and evil, they didn't mess with the technologists as a whole, so they have gotten a pass so far. They also don't actually do anything, so they have been impossible to strike.
Sony, as a member of *IAA(s) _and_ as a first person actor in technology via the PS3 etc, _and_ having stepped far across the line with the Hotz thing, has simply taken the first hit of lightning.
Thing is, the community at large has now learned that they _can_ make a company pay. The frontier has been opened. The Streisand Effect is real, and it will, sadly, take the business world a little longer to learn that "The Angry Villagers Rule" is real as well.
The torches are alight and the pitchforks are out and waving.
In the technological circles, the technologists are peasants, but they do feed the nation and they do strike back.
Companies need to rediscover their manners.
Innocent people shouldn't be forced to pay for inferior software development.
--"Code Complete" Microsoft Press
"Ohhh, some people don't like you to talk like that. Ohh, some people like to shut you up for saying those things.
You know that. Lots of people. Lots of groups in this country want to tell you how to talk.
Tell you what you can't talk about. Well, sometimes they'll say, well you can talk about something but you can't joke about it.
Say you can't joke about something because it's not funny. Comedians run into that shit all the time.
Like rape. They'll say, "you can't joke about rape. Rape's not funny."
I say, "fuck you, I think it's hilarious. How do you like that?"
I can prove to you that rape is funny. Picture Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd.
See, hey why do you think they call him "Porky," eh? I know what you're going to say.
"Elmer was asking for it. Elmer was coming on to Porky.
Porky couldn't help himself, he got a hard- on, he got horney, he lost control, he went out of his mind."
A lot of men talk like that. A lot of men think that way. They think it's the woman's fault.
They like to blame the rape on the woman. Say, "she had it coming, she was wearing a short skirt."
These guys think women ought to go to prison for being cock teasers. Don't seem fair to me.
Don't seem right, but you can joke about it. I believe you can joke about anything.
It all depends on how you construct the joke. What the exaggeration is. What the exaggeration is.
Because every joke needs one exaggeration. Every joke needs one thing to be way out of proportion.
Give you an example. Did you ever see a news story like this in the paper?
Every now and then you run into a story, says, "some guy broke into a house, stole a lot of things, and while he was in there, he raped an 81 year old woman."
And I'm thinking to myself, "WHY??? What the fuck kind of a social life does this guy have?"
I want to say, "why did you do that?" "Well she was coming on to me. We were dancing and I got horney.
Hey, she was asking for it, she had on a tight bathrobe." I'll say, "Jesus Christ, be a little fucking selective next time will you?"
Now, speaking of rape, do you know what I wonder? I wonder is there more rape at the equator or the north pole.
These are the kind of things I think about when I'm sitting home alone and the power goes out.
I wonder is there more rape at the equator or the north pole. I mean per capita, I know the populations are different.
Most people think it's the equator, I think it's the north pole.
People think it's the equator because it's hot down there, they don't wear a lot of clothing, guys can see women's tits, they get horney and there's a lot of fucking going on.
That's exactly why there's less rape at the equator. Because there's a lot of fucking going on.
You can tell there's a lot of fucking at the equator, take a look at the population figures.
Billions of people live near the equator. How many Eskimos do we have?
Thirty? Thirty five? No one's getting laid at the north pole, it's too fucking cold.
Guys say to their wives, "hey tonight honey, huh, tonight, huh?"
"Are you crazy? The wind chill factor is three hundred below."
These guys are deprived. Their horney. Their pent up. Every now and then...p-pmm...they bust out, they got to rape somebody.
Now, the biggest problem an Eskimo rapist has, trying to get wet leather leggings off a woman who is kicking.
Did you ever try to get leather pants off of someone who doesn't want to take them off?
You would lose your hard-on in the process.
Up at the north pole you dick would shrivel up like a stack of dimes.
That's another thing I wonder.
I wonder, does a rapist have a hard-on when he leaves the house in the morning,
or does he develop it during the day while he's walking around looking for somebody.
These are the kind of thoughts that kept me out of the really good schools. "
By now I'm surprised there aren't actually several groups which have turned this whole thing into some kind of sport. It's certainly not for a lack of opportunities.
Does anything in the article indicate that they actually "hacked" anything? Doesn't it sound at least as feasible as anything that somebody from the inside leaked the source code and there was no network security breach as such at all? I've seen plenty of other things from this group to indicate that they are willing to make their successes out to be more impressive than they were, so it wouldn't really surprise me.
http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2011/Jun/75
Uh, I was considering Rick Santorum as my candidate of choice for President if his name was on the ballot in 2012. Now I'm not so sure.
http://89.248.164.63/dox/xyz/
(for the lulz)...spoiler alert: mIRC, smoke weed errrday, WinXP, Amazon shopping spree
Found on urban dictionary.
Sonyfail
When an apparent act of failure is so consistently repeated, of such a grandiosely stupid, and/or of spectacularly epic proportions that no additional adjectives applied to describe it will ever do any further justice, such as the corporate failure by SONYin 2011.
HAHA! SONYFAIL! HAHA!!!
Example: "Man, that managers rant outburst in the meeting was sonyfail"
but I dont disapprove.
Vigilante justice occurs when people feel that real justice is not taking place or is not available to them. Sony has regularly screwed its customers and now it is paying the price. You can only push people so far before they react. I know the antics of this group is immature, but it is doing far more to sony than the government is capable of in retribution for the rootkit, the PS3 fiasco, and (from what I have read) SWG ;)
I say fuck em and fuck anyone stupid enough to use their services. If you lay with a whore, dont be surprised when you get the clap.
This information is incorrect and Slashdot is among the last to correct it. The arrest of Robert Cavanaugh was some time ago and he had nothing to do with LulzSec.
http://www.dailytech.com/LulzSec+Hacked+Nope+Sony+Hacked+Again+Yes+Twice/article21832.htm
Mission accomplished then? :-)
People replying to my sig annoy me. That's why I change it all the time.
Here it is: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6449737/Sownage_2
LulzSec has said no one was arrested from their group. See the following: http://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec/status/77785393289887745
but I think this village *is* worth destroying!
Maybe the authorities just let LuisSec check his email from jail.
The real news will be when /. posts "NO SECURITY BREACH IN PSN/SONY TODAY!"
I am waiting for that day.
Unfortunate coincidence - just as the source code is leaked, Sony executive talks to BBC about lessons learnt from the network hacks and compromised user account information:'Making sure that (you know) once you have a secure network, then people that are out to get the information will try to out do the security mechanisms that we have put in place. Even today, we don't know what was actually stolen, because we are still doing the investigations.'
Maybe Sony should look at the bright side; much of the investigation has been done by the hackers themselves who are not shy about sharing what they have stolen.
On a side-note, I wonder how Robert is doing as the LulzSec claims arrested hacker is not part of the group, just some guy.
He wouldn't be making the joke if he was new here...
Unity? Screw that: XFCE. Slashdot Beta? Screw that: SoylentNews. Australis? Screw that: Pale Moon. UX developers DIAF
...in Modern History
Computers, the Internet, and free, open, anonymous bulletin boards where anyone on the planet can interact with anyone else; exchange ideas, information, even help, and this is what it looks like. True, it's still in it's nascent stages, but my god, how pathetic. Look at these threads. Children, fools, racists, and bitter deviants. Most of you should be ashamed. Do you even know what shame is? You make me ashamed of humanity. It's the 21st century.
Time to grow up.
Hey Faggots,
My name is John, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.
Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than "jack off to naked drawn Japanese people"? I also get straight A's, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
Pic Related: It's me and my bitch
GNAA-re-bump *again
Seriously stop bumping other threads. If you dont support the GNAA, then the neurotypicals will run the internet and thats the last thing you want.
Do you want to see uncreative, unfunny spam on every site? Because if you do there will be only facebook, twitter and all that neurotypical shit left.
So get off your asses and FIGHT THE NEUROTYPICALS!
So start linking people to http://anything.on.nimp.org/.
That should show those neurotypicals.