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Average Gamer Is 37 Years Old

kolbe writes "A new study from the Entertainment Software Association suggests that the average age of today's gamers is between the 37 and 41 years old. If true, does this mean that game studios should be adjusting their demographics accordingly? Is Generation X the next 'baby boomer' market for the gaming industry?"

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  1. its only the beginning by DI4BL0S · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm sure as we go further into the age of technology this number will rise

    1. Re:its only the beginning by cappp · · Score: 2

      The report itself can be found here(pdf). If you look on page 2 you'll see that they claim 29% are over the age of 50 - a demographic that dwarfs the 18% under 18.

      I would however take the numbers with a grain, or truckload, of salt. The report nicely avoids explaining it's methodology and likely uses a broad definition of games (Farmville and minesweeper anyone?) and gamers (usually based on the age of the person doing the buying). Moreover it's an industry study which has an interest in projecting the idea of a mature audiance given certain legislative and legal challenges on the horizon.

    2. Re:its only the beginning by michelcolman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, when I was 25, the average age of gamers was about 25. Now I'm about to turn 37... I guess I'm just part of the gamer generation, and games keep being played by pretty much the same people. Those that grew up with the first home computers and are always impressed by the latest technologies. Those young ones just don't appreciate this stuff on the same level. They're only interested in all this social crap the internet's filled with nowadays.

    3. Re:its only the beginning by vlm · · Score: 2

      The report nicely avoids explaining it's methodology and likely uses a broad definition of games (Farmville and minesweeper anyone?)

      Yes yes, everyone knows that only "REAL GAMES" are multiplayer endless remakes and sequels of first person shooters. Its a very tired old meme that should be allowed to expire.

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    4. Re:its only the beginning by arth1 · · Score: 2

      Sorry but playing Farmville or Bejeweled doesn't make you a gamer by any reasonable definition anymore than playing a little soccer with my nieces and nephews makes me an athlete

      First of all, you're ignoring whole genres of games here, which are more popular with the older crowd. Some because they can be played turn based (like the Civilization and Baldur's Gate series), and others for other reasons. I love flight simulators, and RPGs.
      And as for Bejeweled, there are competitions for it, which is more than you can say about most of the games out there. Some people invest considerable amount of time and get extremely good at it. Yes, it's like "playing a little soccer" in that soccer is a sports. Just like being a world class frisbee player, yoyo pro or skateboarder. Even though everyone has one in the basement, and know the basics, that doesn't mean it's to be dismissed as irrelevant.

      Your elitist crap and No Real Scotsman arguments doesn't hold water. If people play it, it's a game, even if you disdain it or dismiss it as too simple. That's a problem with you, not the games. Like someone else mentioned here, is Pong a game? If not, what was it people did when they spent time with Pong?
      How about poker? Is it not a game because everybody knows how to play it, and Bridge and Gin Rummy are more complex?

  2. Nah by eln · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We're all still mentally 15, so targeting us with boobs and explosions is still cool.

  3. Re:Middle age and I hate games by Berkyjay · · Score: 2

    Sorry

  4. Who has time to play? by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

    In this market, you're either unemployed (and looking), or overworked doing the workload of potentially three employees at 60+ hours/week (companies cutting costs). From my view, there' no middle ground between work and play. So at 34 years old, gaming is a legendary form of recreation I simply don't have the time for.

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    1. Re:Who has time to play? by Nursie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're doing it wrong?

      Seriously... I don't think I could survive more than a couple of 60 hour weeks in a row, and neither would I want to. if that realyl is the situation where you are then I suggest you might want to look into other lines of work.

    2. Re:Who has time to play? by Ironhandx · · Score: 2

      60 hour weeks too stressful for more than a couple of weeks in a row??

      I've been working 60+ hour weeks for several years now. You know what I was working before that? 80+ hour weeks. interspersed with 90 and 100+ hour weeks.

      I'm just wondering how old you are... A lot of the 40+ generation seems to think everything started going down hill with the generation born in the 80's. If you're under 30 then you and another person I met recently may be confirming the stereotype >_

    3. Re:Who has time to play? by Ironhandx · · Score: 2

      I personally am aware that its detrimental to performance. However sometimes you've gotta do what you've gotta do.

      When your normal performance requires a lot of thought but then you really need some stuff moved in the warehouse and theres no one to do it, you do your regular job and then do that job too.

      Also its not legal here for a company to force an employee to work those kinds of hours. However where I come from theres this thing called responsibility and dedication that cause a lot of folks to end up doing those sorts of hours from time to time, not usually to the extent that I have however.

      Also I have no idea what you're talking about this "wasting" crap. I'm in my mid-twenties and in a few months I'll have a net worth of over $500,000. By the time I'm 35 I'll be able to very comfortably retire.

      I certainly hope you're joking and you aren't planning on wasting your whole life working 40 hours a week until you're 60.

    4. Re:Who has time to play? by Totenglocke · · Score: 2

      but I'm still swamped with the care for my kid

      And that is merely #1 on my list of a thousand reasons to never have kids. I spent enough time growing up being miserable because I had no free time - I'm not going to be foolish enough to do that to myself for 20-30 years now that I'm older.

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    5. Re:Who has time to play? by Ironhandx · · Score: 2

      I volunteered myself for those hours. In some cases the bosses don't even know how long I worked. The up side for me is that I get results. Thats seen and valued more than anything else, especially given the current economic climate.

      I'm Canadian by the way, and I'll probably be semi-retired by the time I'm your age.

      I think you're crazy that you'll settle for doing less than your absolute best and then being able to enjoy the spoils of your hard effort for a long time afterwards.

    6. Re:Who has time to play? by Ironhandx · · Score: 2

      Who said I had shares in anything? A lot of the work I do now is purely for myself, and I only deal in tangible assets, not figments of speculators imaginations, which is most of what the stock market is.

      Previously the work has been in situations, not where we didn't want to pay someone to do it, but there simply was no one that we could get TO do it. These are the places where the opportunities are. They exist in every company from time to time. I am pretty damn good at changing hats, which was why I ended up with those sorts of hours.

      Now its a situation where 60+ hours is simply required for the job. No one else has the required combination of knowledge, experience and ability to do it. At least not without hiring an entire other person for about the same salary(a large expense) for 40 hours a week to cover of just an extra 20, plus probably not end up with as good a job done due to the nature of it.

  5. not true by slashmydots · · Score: 2

    That is absolutely and utterly not true. Think about what kind of numbers it would take to get an average that high and compare it to reality of what demographics are known to play games and you won't even need to read the article to know it's BS. Also, at the time of this posting, you can't read the article because this story doesn't link to one. Is it April Fools day already?
    Yes, I play Dungeons and Dragons Online and most people are 20-40 and it's great because kids get really annoying in games (I'm 23 btw) but since practically every teenager plays video games, they would drive the actual calculated average to around 20 at the highest, not 37. 37 year old gamers exist, they're just not the average.

    1. Re:not true by Xest · · Score: 2

      Have you ever stopped to think that you perceive there to be more youngsters in games because they're the ones screaming down the headset on XBox live to you and spamming like the children they are on chat channels in WoW and so forth, whilst the older ones who are a bit more mature quietly just keep to enjoying themselves?

      It's likely also that teenagers spend more time in games simply because they have more spare time, which may also give the perception that they're more common, but this is about numbers of gamers in certain age groups rather than gaming time per age group.

  6. Re:This also means by Fluffeh · · Score: 2

    No, it just means that the same number of people playing games are a lot older than the average.

    I don't know many kids these days that aren't playing consoles, a few of them seem to also play PC games as well.

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  7. Flight simmers are older by SplashMyBandit · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm 39 and a flight simmer (DCS:A-10C, LockOn: Flaming Cliffs 2, DCS:Ka-50 and IL-2:Clifss of Dover). Do play a little bit of twitch gaming but get bored of it. For my flight simming I have thousands of dollars of gear (Thrustmaster Warthog, rudder pedals, Track IR, multiple monitors, high-end PC). Most of my colleagues are of similar maturity and also have full sets of gear. We older gamers might be fewer in numbers but we are a goldmine in value (and we pay for our software since pirating is a complete hassle - and time is more precious to us fogies than money). Too bad we're completely invisible to the main-stream game reporting and gaming companies - especially the latter who produce games with purile content and weak storylines (I mean, effective modern combat units fight *for* their teammates, despite humored grumbling they don't bitch fight among themselves all the time).

    1. Re:Flight simmers are older by vlm · · Score: 2

      You should get a PPL and a light aircraft then.

      Yeah like he's going to afford a war surplus A-10 anytime soon.

      I found PPL training and light aircraft flight to be a dramatically different experience than flight sims.

      Also its well known in the professional community that sim time totally screws up a real world pilot. Theres plenty of sims with nice graphics and realistic controls, but few/none with accurate simulation of controlled airspace, FAA law enforcement, etc. And I know personally that it horribly screws up judgement, in my sims I pretty much never abort a IFR landing, my judgement, which make sense for a sim flyer, would completely terrify a CFI.

      Also medical is a serious issue... My grandfather, a B-24 pilot, simmed for literally decades after medical would have grounded him. Frankly, I don't know if I'd pass a medical, and I'm scared to try, because if I fail, that would DQ me from (ever?) getting a sport pilot license and flying a LSA... And a LSA is pretty boring for a guy with many hours in a A-10...

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  8. original by mustPushCart · · Score: 5, Informative

    Heres the original pdf of the study.

    http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_EF_2011.pdf

    its up from 34 last year apparently. So gamers are ageing 3 years for every 1.

    1. Re:original by mcvos · · Score: 4, Funny

      its up from 34 last year apparently. So gamers are ageing 3 years for every 1.

      That's it. I'm quitting.

  9. Re:Stereotypes are true? by superwiz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is the generation that came of age in the 90's. Most of them made more money than their parents on their first job out of college. They were what all the millenials think they ought to be. And having created the Internet, made or lost even more money in the housing boom, they are now going Galt by playing video games.

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  10. Link by RobinEggs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So now we're posting submissions without sources that try to make an entire discussion out of a single alleged factoid? Seriously?

    Most links I can find on this topic point to CNET, but this is the closest thing I can find to the original source. One website high in the google results links to pdf of this supposed study, but the link is dead.

    1. Re:Link by kolbe · · Score: 2

      Oops! I linked Neilsen instead of the ESA document here: http://www.theesa.com/facts/gameplayer.asp

  11. The Atari 2600 and PacMan Generation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't want to get on a "remember-when" rant, but here I go anyway... I'm 42. I grew up in the late 70s/early 80s. I remember the hand-held electronic games (Galaxy Invader 1000), home video game consoles (first the pong-style games, then Atari VCS, Intellevision, Vectrex!), the first big coin-op games (Space Invaders, Asteroids, Defender, Pac Man), home computers (Atari 400/800, Commodore 64, ZX Spectrum). This was a new and exciting time. Best toys ever. I never really played board games or sports (until university). It was all video games. New things came monthly... and that continued through the 16-bit era to PCs. I remember Wolfenstein 3D and the original Doom when it was brand new. I remember Half Life. Hell, I remember (and still own) flight simulators for the ZX Spectrum, Atari 800, Atari ST (SubLogic FS:II), and every version of MS Flight Simulator for the PC since 1992. Now I play Wii games and on the PC, Portal 2 and Left 4 Dead.

    It doesn't surprise me at all that the average age of gamers is in my neighborhood. Does it surprise anyone (besides youngsters)?

  12. Re:Stereotypes are true? by gregrah · · Score: 2

    Saving money is another good reason. In other countries (I'm thinking of Japan, for example) it is perfectly acceptable for a person to live with their parents until the day they get married. That way, they have a nice nest egg saved up for after they get married.

    Having blown tens of thousands of dollars on rent when I was single - that actually seems like a pretty good deal to me.

  13. Re:Middle age and I hate games by Grygus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have heard it suggested a few times that this is true of all game designers, that when a real designer plays a game, all he sees are the design decisions; the game itself can't be seen behind the mechanics, and that a good game for a designer is a well-designed game, which is not necessarily related to having fun with the gameplay. Richard Bartle once wrote an interesting blog entry about a zone's design in World of Warcraft; he definitely doesn't see and play the game like most people.

    I am glad people like you exist, because that's why I have games. I think you're really missing out sometimes, though.

  14. Re:Middle age and I hate games by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 3, Funny

    Darn, that's too bad. I just found this really cool game. You start with an empty text file and the goal is to combine keywords and codes in order to create a procedural algorithm that produces an environment containing further goals for others to complete.

  15. nobody cares by epine · · Score: 2

    What they care about is mean time between purchase at full retail value for the same product every other short-attention-span twitch spender is buying that week.

    Even when I gamed a lot, I only bought the epic titles and beat them to death. My passing from the gaming demographic went unnoticed by the marketroids.

    The rule of thumb is that bad money drives out good. When the idiot demographic pays too much for bad content, the companies soon lose interest in making the good content.

    I'm sure I just opened myself up for contradiction by epic counter-example. I rest my case.

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  16. Re:Middle age and I hate games by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I like both.

    However, as a gamer falling into the middle age category as well I can understand your hatred for games to some extent. Although I'm still spending quite some time on gaming, I'm buying less and less games because games have become more and more stupid. I've been wondering for a long time why studios and producers don't make games that are more suitable for halfway mature people. With almost no exceptions the marketing and the content still seem to be devised for really stupid 14-15 year old boys living on the countryside in the US and being extreme patriots. Somehow I doubt this profile matches the profile of the people like me who actually buy games.

    It has come to a point where you need to make considerable efforts to just being able tolerate the main story. Take for example BFBC 2, which I have played recently. The game mechanics was okay but the background story really felt like an insult. Even 15 year old boys are rarely stupid enough to appreciate such a plot.

    Also, if there were an MMORPG or even just an online shooter were you can only get an account after having proved that you're above 30, I'd probably spent more than 0 hours a week online. Not that I have much time anyway...

  17. Probably not, actually by Moraelin · · Score: 2

    Probably not, actually. The median age in the USA is 36.8 years old.

    Basically at this point the average gamer is just the average guy. For every guy under 37 that plays video games, there's someone over 37 who also plays video games, AND that's essentially the exact same information you'd get by their ages alone.

    Really, gaming has already spread through all age segments. You have preschoolers playing edutainment games, and you even have 80 year old grandmas in WoW raids, and everything in between. (But not everyone admits it. Mom is 30 if you ask her in WoW.)

    There isn't really much way for it to go much higher than the median age, unless it actually gets less popular among young 'uns than among senior citizens. I don't think anyone will manage to make gaming unpopular with kids any time soon, so I'd expect that to just follow the median age in the near future.

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  18. As it should by Moraelin · · Score: 2

    If including the casual gamers "throws the numbers", then it throws them to their correct value. If someone plays enough Angry Birds or whatever, they are gamers.

    Besides, it's pretty stupid to divide some genres as not really games, as this basically would mean a lot of us who started in the early 80's never actually played a game. Most of the games that were available on a ZX-81 or ZX Spectrum or C-64 or even early IBM PC games, didn't even have the complexity of cell phone games these days.

    Heck, the whole video game genre started with games like Pong.

    I don't think anyone thought that people playing those are anything but gamers. We didn't think, "ah, well, they can't be Real Gamers, because nobody invented Real Gamer games like first person shooters yet."

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  19. Re:Middle age and I hate games by Hatta · · Score: 2

    a good game for a designer is a well-designed game, which is not necessarily related to having fun with the gameplay.

    If the gameplay isn't fun, the design isn't good.

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  20. Re:Stereotypes are true? by drsquare · · Score: 2

    Actually I'm pretty sure that's par for the course everywhere in the world outside of the US. It's the exception, not the rule, that parents kick their kids out of the house as soon as legally allowed, leaving them drowing in bills and rents before they've even finished school, never mind managed to get a well-paying job.

    This was only really possible thanks to America's cheap land that enabled surburban expansion whereby anyone even on minimum wage could afford a cheap house, and the productive economy that enabled everyone to get a job.

    Now that economic reality is setting in, America's advantages being eroded, and the debt which supported this unsustainable lifestyle reaching its limits, they might have to accept living in the parents basement like the rest of the world.

  21. Re:What defines a gamer by Kelbear · · Score: 2

    I like your distinction, it sums things up quite nicely.

    From now on, I'll call anyone who has played any kind of electronic entertainment "gamers", and anyone who is actively engaged in gaming, and digesting related news "gaming enthusiasts".

    If there are "casual" gamers who are "hardcore" about their games, they'd certainly belong in the category of gaming enthusiasts. However, the vast majority who only dabble in gaming as a way of passing time, wouldn't fall into the category.

    Gaming enthusiast as a term would provides a meaningful distinction for the purpose of communication, while avoiding the perjorative associations linked to the more commonly used terms of "casual" and "hardcore".