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EVE Online Targeted By LulzSec

lordsilence writes "It seems LulzSec is now targeting CCP Games' Eve Online with a denial of service attack. The extent of this attack is yet not known but the game cluster and EVEOnline.com website are down at the writing of this post.. A possible reason for targeting CCP could be the affiliation with Sony. CCP recently announced during E3 that their upcoming game Dust514 would be Sony Playstation 3 exclusive."

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  1. I call BS by Dyinobal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I call BS on the Sony affiliate thing. They've also attacked Minecraft, and the Escapist Magazine. These guys have no purpose or cause other than drama, they are just Anonymous rejects (which is kinda sad) looking for attention.

    1. Re:I call BS by OverlordQ · · Score: 3, Funny

      It boggles the mind how emos found the time to learn hacking.

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    2. Re:I call BS by jdpars · · Score: 2

      Agreed. They're children with toys. I may feel angry now, but I know the appropriate response is pity. I'd love to offer these guys an ear to hear out their problems, that's probably what they need most.

    3. Re:I call BS by Millennium · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The real Anonymous of yore wouldn't point their cannons in such arbitrary manners.

      I thought that arbitrarily pointing the cannon was most of the point of Anonymous, both of yore and today. The whole thing with not being your personal army and all that.

    4. Re:I call BS by artor3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Paranoid much? Just accept that your heroes are no such thing. They do what they do, "for the lulz". There is no higher purpose. No false flag. They just enjoy making other people miserable and laughing at their misfortune.

      I saw something online a month ago or so. Apparently Anonymous responded to a bunch of dating site ads by lonely men, pretending to be interested women, and inviting them to a date at a predetermined place and time. They secretly filled the spot, hoping to live-stream the misery of these people as they realized no one was coming. Was that a false flag attack too?

      These people are just bullies, getting off on the suffering of others.

    5. Re:I call BS by 0racle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Who needs to learn how to use LOIC?

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    6. Re:I call BS by jdpars · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, I feel angry because my internet spaceships are gone.

    7. Re:I call BS by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My guess is that LulzSec == government entities (joint or not is no matter) looking to discredit Anonymous. The real Anonymous of yore wouldn't point their cannons in such arbitrary manners.

      Eh? They would not? How do you know? Do you claim to speak for anon? Oh right, anybody can speak for anon. Perhaps you can begin to see the problem here...

    8. Re:I call BS by N!k0N · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, I feel angry because my internet spaceships are gone.

      QFT. Internet Spaceships are serious business.

    9. Re:I call BS by desdinova+216 · · Score: 2

      Never go Full Retard

    10. Re:I call BS by Tolkien · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Paranoid much? Just accept that your heroes are no such thing. They do what they do, "for the lulz".

      Well...

      When everyone is out to get you, paranoia is just good thinking.

      ;) It's true that LulzSec is rather wreckless. But the "original" Anonymous still exists somewhere, how can't it? It seems to me that it only works towards my argument (mind you I don't firmly believe it, it was just a guess as I originally stated, I'm only defending the "original" Anonymous as a devil's advocate if you will).

      There is no higher purpose. No false flag. They just enjoy making other people miserable and laughing at their misfortune.

      I saw something online a month ago or so. Apparently Anonymous responded to a bunch of dating site ads by lonely men, pretending to be interested women, and inviting them to a date at a predetermined place and time. They secretly filled the spot, hoping to live-stream the misery of these people as they realized no one was coming. Was that a false flag attack too?

      These people are just bullies, getting off on the suffering of others.

      Yeah, LulzSec does seem to be rather loose. Their actions in the example you give are rather cruel, too. :|

    11. Re:I call BS by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Informative

      Who needs to learn how to use LOIC?

      LOIC just floods a server, it's not a terribly useful tool for anything other than DDoS. For Anonymous, that's good enough.

      LulzSec though wants to go after blood - userlists, corporate data, etc. You need a fancier tool than LOIC to do that, and some skill.

      Anonymous would just make EVE harder to play by increasing lag of the entire game. LulzSec would really just mess things up by zeroing everyone's balance or giving tons of money or screwing with everyone's stats.

    12. Re:I call BS by Dunbal · · Score: 2

      Surprise, all your POS will be in reinforced mode when you come back...

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    13. Re:I call BS by icebike · · Score: 2

      You may feel angry because those toys aren't available to you, or me.
      What you'd love right now is being in the playground with the others and not in a dark, isolate angle, trying to pretend you want to help them out.
      See, the canonical good samaritan doesn't fake his attention needs, you might want to look for someone who actually hear _your_ problems.

      Seriously?

      I couldn't eek out a moment in my day to use these toys to attack some web site somewhere. I have an actual life, and no basement to crawl into.

      Some day the perpwalks will start.
      How smug will you be then?

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    14. Re:I call BS by exomondo · · Score: 2

      The real Anonymous of yore wouldn't point their cannons in such arbitrary manners.

      You mean the Anonymous that trolled gays, 12 year old girls, dating site members, etc...? Certainly sounds like the 'Anonymous of yore' would do that sort of arbitrary trolling and attacks.

  2. Or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or maybe they don't have a motive and are just being dicks for the sake of being dicks.

  3. If I wrote the news... by Scott+Lockwood · · Score: 5, Funny

    "IT departments everywhere noted huge gains in productivity today, as LulzSec announced it was taking Eve Online, offline. 'We don't know what happened exactly, but the whole tech crew start screaming about their crack being gone, and suddenly things started to get fixed. Oh - and they all even took showers.'"

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  4. Given the EVE attitude... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm somewhat inclined to wonder if this is just part of some terrifyingly value-rational spreadsheet junkie's byzantine plan to manipulate the market in refined-fictionalonium futures or something of the sort...

  5. I doubt the Sony connection by JorDan+Clock · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It seems like LulzSec just targets anyone that will get them attention, not just those affiliated with Sony. As the members get caught, I'm very interested in seeing how their "we do it for the lulz" defense plays out in court.

    1. Re:I doubt the Sony connection by The+Moof · · Score: 2

      I think the guy who said "just being dicks for the sake of being dicks" got it right. I'm just waiting for them to piss in the wrong person's cereal and tick off someone smarter and better at this than they are. It'll be interesting to see how they handle someone throwing retribution back at them.

  6. Nothing to do with Sony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    This has to do with their Twitter feed. They were asking people for suggestions on who to aim for. Someone called in and must have requested Eve online. They stated they intended to take down the login server, but it also accidentally took down the webserver.

    Here's their offer: http://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec/status/80675710246723584
    Here's their following post with the result: http://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec/status/80681360292978688

    Looks like they also took down the minecraft login server, escapistmagazine's web server, and finfisher's web server (some IS company?). They're calling it TitanicTakeoverTuesday.

  7. Re:The real news by Gaspo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nothing to do with quality of PSN vs Xbox Live community. CCP has flat-out stated that they couldn't do it on Xbox because microsoft's networking policies wouldn't have allowed the game to work they way they needed it to to properly interact with EVE.

  8. Re:Keep going, LulzSec by halivar · · Score: 2

    "Just wait until the mainstream media (sic[sic]: Fox)"

  9. Re:Keep going, LulzSec by Millennium · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is important. People poke fun at that one report that referred to lulz as "a corruption of LOL," but it really is, both in the linguistic sense and a wider philosophical one. It's not just about having fun, but specifically having fun at someone else's expense. Or, in a word, bullying.

    Actually, now that I think about it, I'm going to have to stop using the term. A shame, that, because it really is fun to say.

  10. "Anonymous Rejects"?!? wow... by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 2

    What's that like, getting thrown out of your local community college for poor grades?

  11. After a shitty day by gatkinso · · Score: 5, Funny

    of writing shitty code... for a shitty company... surrounded by shitty coworkers... who think I am just as shitty as they are (haha bitches you are wrong I am NOT as shitty!).... and getting in a shitty traffic jam....

    I just want to go home, take a shit, wipe, and play a dumb space game (that eerily reminds me of Microsoft Excel in some ways) and unwind.

    Is that so much to ask? But no, the cocks have to be themselves.

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  12. Re:Bad Idea. by OS24Ever · · Score: 4, Informative

    Considering they once took it so seriously they were going to cut the power to the home of a pilot of a Titan ship in game to keep him from logging on, I don't think it's that far of a stretch to avoid pissing off some of the russian players.

    Not BS either, see: http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/65475/page/3

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  13. Re:Boobs by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 2

    Perhaps, but almost certainly these are simply foolish youths with poor impulse control and a lack of sound judgement. They are the "me too" effect coming off of Anonymous victories and publicity. They view things as but merely another video game and do not recognize the consequences of their actions.

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  14. haha...bad target to pick on by lexsird · · Score: 2

    Do you have any idea who plays EVE? These guys didn't think it through when they considered this target. The EVE player base getting pissed at them is probably one of most dangerous player bases a game has out there. Measure the learning curve of EVE, then contrast it to other MMOs. EVE is global, on one server. They have nationality factions. Military types playing it. People who work IT. LulzSec will be lolToAsT I suspect very soon.

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  15. I know it's from a movie, but ... by aztektum · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Alfred Pennyworth: A long time ago, I was in Burma, my friends and I were working for the local government. They were trying to buy the loyalty of tribal leaders by bribing them with precious stones. But their caravans were being raided in a forest north of Rangoon by a bandit. So we went looking for the stones. But in six months, we never found anyone who traded with him. One day I saw a child playing with a ruby the size of a tangerine. The bandit had been throwing them away.

    Bruce Wayne: Then why steal them?

    Alfred Pennyworth: Because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

    I find it fitting since they're in it for the "LuLz" as was the Joker

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    1. Re:I know it's from a movie, but ... by waveclaw · · Score: 2
      "If the oceans were suddenly turned to gasoline, how long do you think it would be before someone lit a match, just to be the one who did it?"

      -- Joe Haldeman,"Colonizing Other Worlds."

      While he was discussing closed cultures on Interstellar Travel and Mutli-Generation Space Ships, Spaceship Earth also has some of the issues with having real live people trying to keep it together for the whole voyage. And we just go 'round and 'round with nowhere in particular as the course.

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  16. Re:What.the.fuck. by smelch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Perhaps we should show the security flaws in real life system. Guess what? Nothing is secure. If LulzSec were serial killers would it still be the same for you? Proving how insecure our frail human necks are? Has it ever occured to you that the only thing that keeps society running is the threat of retribution and our years of weeding out sociopathic behavior? The reason you aren't murdered for every interaction you've ever had is not because you were secure. This is bullshit, anti-social, watching-the-world-burn asshattery.

    Did you know Goldman Sachs was just demonstrating the insecurity of the American financial system? Get your head out of your ass and look around at the world. You are at the mercy of everybody, and the only way to stop this kind of behavior is through social pressure which will come in the form of being able to identify internet users. Get ready to talk about the good old days when you didn't get raped at an airport and the government didn't ID you before you could log in to the internet. And what were you saying at the time? "Good! I'm glad people are assholes and we can't trust each other. It just shows how much we can't trust each other."

    It was inevitable but don't fool yourself in to thinking it is a good thing.

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  17. Re:Dangerous by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They are legion. They do not forgive. They do not forget. They do not plan. They do not show restraint. They do not not choose their battles. They do not help.

    They are juveniles. They are irresponsible. They have social issues. They are only brave because they are anonymous. They would sob like a girl if they actually got caught and put in prison.

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  18. Re:"Anonymous Rejects"?!? wow... by IrquiM · · Score: 2

    More like being denied sleeping under the bridge because you smell

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  19. Re:Why shouldn't I work for the N.S.A.... by bug1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It was a good speech from "Good Will Hunting".

    Did you type it out yourself, or just cut and paste ?

  20. "Original" Anonymous are trolls. by the_raptor · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You just don't get it. The original, from 4chan, Anonymous are a bunch of trolls and always have been. The only time anything approaching morality entered the mass consciousness of Anon was during Project Chanology, and if anyone hurts cats. Long before Anonymous was in the news they were happily trolling Nazis, furries, pedos, twelve year old girls, quadriplegics, gay kids, Christians, Muslims, Atheists etc.

    The only rule is "we do it for the lulz".

    The moral hacktivist Anonymous of Project Chanology era was entirely a creation of a handful of individuals who did a very good job of media manipulation. The vast majority of Anons were just participating because it was funny to annoy the Scientologists.

    4chan is not your personal army, but if you offer them an interesting enough target they will participate until bored. If your target isn't interesting they are just as likely to track down your docs and harass you instead of the target.

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  21. Eve Online ... BAD idea by Teunis · · Score: 2

    That's got the largest group of wankers on who could attack back.
    Very bad target. Don't do it. Leave the EVE universe alone to the whackos who know and love it, so their world won't bleed into ours.

    or in other words, I'll be waiting to see what fallout hits the news. This could be interesting....